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Posted by: narnia, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 6:50pm
My DH stumbled upon this wonder-cure-all.  The testimonials sound absolutely awesome!!

Does Dr. D. have any thoughts on this mineral supplement?
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:00pm; Reply: 1
read my signature ;D
Posted by: deblynn3, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:26pm; Reply: 2
I use it in the garden, to kill soft body bugs, it's good for fleas, and we add it to the goat feed to kill intestinal gritters. I believe it's made from a shell and cuts their bodies up. Don't guess it would hurt you, but don't know what kind of minerals would be in it.
Posted by: akolley, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:31pm; Reply: 3
From what I have learned, daily doses can take care of Lyme's disease and parasites.  
Posted by: narnia, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:32pm; Reply: 4
If I took it, it would not be to get off the hook.  I have been doing the work and stayed compliant for two years and taking Dr. D's supps and have been going downhill this past 6 months, so when I came across this, I got excited.  
Posted by: narnia, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:37pm; Reply: 5
It is a fossil flour...It is 80-90% silica.  I've read that the soil is very low in silica now, so that the foods that we eat are deficient in it.  We are getting only 1/3 of what we need, so that we are continually becoming more and more deficient.  It is also a great detoxifier.

Info and amazing testimonials!  http://www.earthworkshealth.com/human-use.php
Posted by: deblynn3, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:42pm; Reply: 6
I don't think it would hurt you and if you've picked up parasites might do you some good.  I'm sure you can find a place where you can get it for human consumption. (I don't know if that can be said of the garden diatomaceous earth we get from the feed store. Also a little goes a long way.
Posted by: narnia, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:44pm; Reply: 7
I could very well have parasites.  I have lived in Korea for 13 years and I have traveled to foreign countries.  This could just be one of the keys to my health not being vibrant....
Posted by: deblynn3, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:48pm; Reply: 8
OK what your asking about is food grade.I see no reason why you couldn't try and see if you felt better using it. What I use isn't food grade (although I'll take a look and see.) I use it in my garden. so the silica should go into my garden vegetables. Which is how I think I'd rather ingest it.
Posted by: deblynn3, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 7:51pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from narnia
I could very well have parasites.  I have lived in Korea for 13 years and I have traveled to foreign countries.  This could just be one of the keys to my health not being vibrant....


I had this happen to a friend, took sometime before any Doc. found what she'd gotten.  So under your circumstances I would give it a try. It is something I might order to keep in my med. kit. Keep us informed.  Best to you   ;)
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 9:22pm; Reply: 10
DE is high in silica.

Some Food High in Silica are:

Leafy green vegetables
Millet
Oats
Onions
Rice
Whole grains
Wheat
Alfalfa
Barley
Beetroot
Posted by: narnia, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 9:47pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Rev144
According to the lady at http://www.perma-guard.com/  their fossil shell flour is of the rounded type, she said it does not kill parasites.  DE or fossil shell flour can be bad if you take it at the wrong times.  It does detox very well, I used it to help detox my dog who had heavy metals.  Make sure you take it 2 hours before and after meals. Like at bedtime.  I mixed it with water and a little honey to get it down my old boys mouth! It will pull metals and toxins  out, including good minerals. This is why you take it by its self.   I have tried to use it on my live stock for a wormer, and did not have much success.  I have read many studies on herds of livestock given DE and it did nothing to their parasite load. They were tested before during and after the test.  Many people mix DE with grain or other supplements when an animal is sick.  This is the worst thing you could do, because it is removing all the mineral that the sick body needs.

If you want a 10 day wormer, try Oil Of Oregano P73.  I use this to worm my dogs, livestock, and me!   It is anti viral, anti-parasite, anti-bacteria, anti-fungal.   I have tried other brands but the North American P73 brand was the best. It has the highest active ingredient .   I have not had the flu in 2.5 years , I have seen worms leave my dog, I also use it for mastitis in my goats.



Hmm...very interesting!  There are so many testimonials on their website about people seeing worms in their stools!  Did they use it for 3 weeks at least?  That's how long they say to use it.

Where do I buy this Oil of Oregano P73?  I have some oil of oregano, but I've never heard of the P73.  How would I take it?
Posted by: deblynn3, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 11:16pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Rev144
According to the lady at http://www.perma-guard.com/  their fossil shell flour is of the rounded type, she said it does not kill parasites.  DE or fossil shell flour can be bad if you take it at the wrong times.  It does detox very well, I used it to help detox my dog who had heavy metals.  Make sure you take it 2 hours before and after meals. Like at bedtime.  I mixed it with water and a little honey to get it down my old boys mouth! It will pull metals and toxins  out, including good minerals. This is why you take it by its self.   I have tried to use it on my live stock for a wormer, and did not have much success.  I have read many studies on herds of livestock given DE and it did nothing to their parasite load. They were tested before during and after the test.  Many people mix DE with grain or other supplements when an animal is sick.  This is the worst thing you could do, because it is removing all the mineral that the sick body needs.

If you want a 10 day wormer, try Oil Of Oregano P73.  I use this to worm my dogs, livestock, and me!   It is anti viral, anti-parasite, anti-bacteria, anti-fungal.   I have tried other brands but the North American P73 brand was the best. It has the highest active ingredient .   I have not had the flu in 2.5 years , I have seen worms leave my dog, I also use it for mastitis in my goats.


So does that mean there are two kinds, a rounded and a sharp? Also for the goats it's not give after they are sick, but as a preventative. I'll also look into the oregano P73. Thanks for the insite.
Posted by: narnia, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 11:25pm; Reply: 13
According to this article, it works.  http://freshwaterorganics.com/notthesame.html

Rev144, would you point me to some articles that state that DE was not a successful dewormer?
Posted by: narnia, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 2:40am; Reply: 14
Yuccchhh!!   :P

So how do you take the Oil?  

From what I've read...DE contains trace minerals which have helped people to feel much better.

Scientific studies have been done to show its efficacy in lowering cholesterol as well.

Stronger teeth and gums and nails, youthful hair color growing in where there was gray...thinning and bald hair growing in....sounds really amazing!!
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 6:25am; Reply: 15
Quoted Text
Dr D
'parasite cleanse'
I hate to tell you this, but that 'parasite cleanse' probably just
screwed up your digestive system's ecobalance, which is a shame
since ER4YT is a program that elegantly, if laboriously and slowly,
builds it up. Please, before you do a parasite cleanse, or whatever,
run basic conventional tests, like ova and parasites, to determine
if you really have the problem. Anyway, think about using the
probiotic for your blood type, and perhaps the amino sugar NAG
(n-actylated glucosamine) to begin to repair some of the damage.
Posted by: Joyce, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 2:46pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from narnia
Yuccchhh!!   :P

So how do you take the Oil?  


2 drops neat under tongue really clears the sinuses  :)  get mine from iherb.com

Posted by: deblynn3, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 3:16pm; Reply: 17
I've used DE in the garden and had good results with it for aphids. But I just dusted the plants. I didn't dilute it with water.

So far our goats haven't gotten lice. Sure that day will come. ::)
Posted by: narnia, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 3:32pm; Reply: 18
According to this info...they sell Perma-guard...it's supposed to sweep the colon clean.  

http://www.earthworkshealth.com/How-Diatomaceous-Earth-Works.php

I have read a lot of articles saying that it helps in getting rid of candida.
Posted by: narnia, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 3:40pm; Reply: 19
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Anti Caking Agents are used all the time, in food, vitamins ect.  They help things from getting caked up...  In vitamins, they coat the vitamin powder which helps it go thru the machines faster. Each pill only has a tiny bit in it, which by itself is not too bad. HOWEVER, if you are taking 15 vitamins a day and they all have it in it over some time, your insides are going to get caked up.  You absorb most of your nutrients in the intestines. With all this anti caking stuff in you, your health will deteriorate over time as you will not be able to absorb!!!  This stuff is like powdered caulk.  Here is a good video to describe what anti caking does to your insides. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSyikVIMXqU
It says it does not absorb nutrients but it does not say that it does not coat the intestines making it impossible to absorb nutrients!!!

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I can't agree on this one.  Magnesium stearate is what that video is talking about.  That is NOT the same thing as fossil flour.  Just because two different substances are used for the same purpose, it does not mean that it will have the same effect.  Magnesium stearate is chalk...real dirt.  DE is NOT dirt.  It is single-celled plant fossils.

I have read too many articles talking about the health of the animals being tremendously improved, as well as humans.  So, that should prove that DE does NOT coat the intestines or inhibit absorption of nutrients.  If what you say is true, then the animals' and peoples' health would have declined, and there would be literature to prove it.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 3:42pm; Reply: 20
pls avoid sweeping your colon clean or believing all you read on the matter!
your ecosystem is unique and precious, do not disrupt it


you might have missed my last post
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1327517448/s-new/#num18
Posted by: narnia, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 4:19pm; Reply: 21
Thanks, Lola.  However, my ecosystem has been terrible, so I really need something to get rid of the candida.  Been on probiotics and candex, avoiding all fruits, etc. and nothing has worked.

OK...this is what I found:

Now, let’s talk about human consumption for a moment. Food grade DE actually comes with a recommendation of 1 heaping tablespoon for humans DAILY in order to absorb endotoxins, e-coli, viruses, ethyl mercury, drug residues, as well as eliminate parasites, and regulates digestion. So there’s no need to worry about 1 tablespoon in your 5 gallon bucket of wheat. And yes, it’s perfectly safe for children and pregnant women. Diatomaceous earth has a negative charge and bacteria has a positive charge.  So it’s actually great at eliminating bacteria in your body’s system—without eliminating the good bacteria in your stomach.

That was from this site:  http://preparednesspro.wordpress.com/2009/10/01/diatomaceous-earth/

It is confirmed on numerous sites.  So, although in a sense it sweeps the colon clean, it is of bad stuff but not good stuff.
Posted by: narnia, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 5:15pm; Reply: 22
OK!  So, I called Perma-guard and spoke with them.

They said that they never had a lady speak on any broadcasts, so it was not they.  They have proven results that it does get rid of parasites.  Also that there have been animal studies proving its efficacy when fed with food.

Also, doesn't affect bowl flora negatively.  

They thought that perhaps you may have used a different DE than theirs.
Posted by: D.L., Thursday, January 26, 2012, 5:38pm; Reply: 23
In his book, THE YEAST CONNECTION HANDBOOK, (c) 2002, Dr. William G. Crook recommends trying garlic for candida. He describes "the inhibitory action of garlic on candida organisms". He talks about certain meds, but says that the compounds in garlic are "less likely to cause adverse reactions", and garlic has other health benefits.
Posted by: narnia, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 7:01pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from D.L.
In his book, THE YEAST CONNECTION HANDBOOK, (c) 2002, Dr. William G. Crook recommends trying garlic for candida. He describes "the inhibitory action of garlic on candida organisms". He talks about certain meds, but says that the compounds in garlic are "less likely to cause adverse reactions", and garlic has other health benefits.


I eat fresh garlic with nearly every meal.
Posted by: cajun, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 7:22pm; Reply: 25
Narnia,
Hi! So good to see you posting again but I am so sorry for your troubles! :-/
Sending you healing, healthy thoughts! ;)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 7:51pm; Reply: 26
If you're limiting sugars in your diet, and eating lots of garlic, but still have yeast problems, then something else is going on. I've read that candida surrounds mercury and protects against mercury damage when people have too much mercury in their systems; if this is the case in your body, then getting rid of the candida without getting rid of mercury would only cause you more problems. That may be why your body is hanging onto the candida, in spite of the discomfort the candida is causing.

I don't know for a fact that mercury is your problem; I only know that mercury can cause resistant candida problems. Other things might also cause this problem. The point I'm making is simply that candida may be a symptom, not a cause, and you need to get to the cause to eliminate the problem.
Posted by: battle dwarf, Friday, January 27, 2012, 7:08pm; Reply: 27
saw a differant type of de today. it was rounded and reminded me of cat litter. i use a white powder type that is specifed for the destuction of "soft bodied organisims". i lost three goats this year when i stoped using it for a bit and by the time i cuaght it it they were to infested for even the ugard (heavy chemical) to kill. getting the 50lb bag this year and am not going to let that happen again!
i have had my own test on this. had a bad horn worm the first year i started buying de. threw some right in the face of one worm (i was really put out by then). the next day the worm was exsactly where i had seen it last. at first i was mad and then i relized it letteraly had not moved. on closer inspection i relized it had mummified after getting a big mouthfull of the stuff!
last time i got a small bag of this type they only had one bag left. aperntly some guys dr told him to take it for himself and he had been buying it up and putting it in his food. (the same stuff i am using)
Posted by: cowgirl1988, Saturday, January 28, 2012, 2:16am; Reply: 28
I, too, eat raw garlic every day and still have candida...working with my Kinesiologist to get rid of it. I started taking DE quite a few months ago, within a few days, my insomnia was gone and I didn't feel quite so irritated and anxious all the time...so it must've had some good effects on my system! Only your own body can tell you if it's doing something to your health, everyone is different! ;)
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, January 28, 2012, 6:25am; Reply: 29
Quoted Text
run basic conventional tests, like ova and parasites, to determine
if you really have the problem.
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