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Posted by: trish44, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 6:41pm
I am so depressed and anxious, all in one.  I have been doing well with the diet and have lost 50# since the first Berkely study on my arteries 2 years ago.  The first year numbers improved some, and this last year, they have gotten worse.  The inflammation number is in the risk area, and the good cholesteral number is way too low.  That is in the risk area as well.  The LDL is in the intermediate area.  They did an ultra sound on the neck a year ago, and have scheduled another for the end of March.  My blood pressure is hovering in the 140's and 150's and the bottom number is  high 90's to 103 which it was this morning.  She wants me to take blood pressure meds and cholesteral meds.  I said not, I want to get very strict, lose 20 more # before the end of March and then see if the numbers are better.  I have been under a lot of stress, and there is not much I can do about that.  If things do not improve, I would rather have surgery to clear out those arteries that take the drugs.  So I guess we will see.  Any suggestions?  And John, I am sorry I have not sent my food diary as planned, I have been in a tither about all of this.  Will do it next week!  Trish
Posted by: jayneeo, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 6:49pm; Reply: 1
Trish, I really understand your concerns....you know a lot about what you need to do and there are things that we cannot change even with the best of compliance, but consider taking high dose vitamin C which sounds like a no brainer, but I am pretty sure it can help clear out plaque....(I'm like you...I'd have surgery to roto rooter those out rather than be on meds my whole life)
wishing you the best.....and I know others will have advise too.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 6:53pm; Reply: 2
You can't have surgery unless they are beyond a certain percentage, insurance companies will not pay for it.

Breath  then  plan you can do this!
Posted by: Wholefoodie, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 7:30pm; Reply: 3
Have your heard of Nattokinase? My health practitioner recommends this to break down the fat in arteries.

You mention stress but unfortunately they don't call this a killer for nothing. I would pull out all the stops to to manage it as best you can. Try meditation or designating some time each day to work on deep breathing and relaxing. This is so important. Not quoting exactly but Dr. D. in one of his books says it's not the stress but how we manage it.

Are you getting the physical exercise you need, especially the Hunter genotype?

Lisa
Posted by: Spring, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 7:31pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from trish44
I am so depressed and anxious, all in one.  I have been doing well with the diet and have lost 50# since the first Berkely study on my arteries 2 years ago.  The first year numbers improved some, and this last year, they have gotten worse.  The inflammation number is in the risk area, and the good cholesteral number is way too low.  That is in the risk area as well.  The LDL is in the intermediate area.  They did an ultra sound on the neck a year ago, and have scheduled another for the end of March.  My blood pressure is hovering in the 140's and 150's and the bottom number is  high 90's to 103 which it was this morning.  She wants me to take blood pressure meds and cholesteral meds.  I said not, I want to get very strict, lose 20 more # before the end of March and then see if the numbers are better.  I have been under a lot of stress, and there is not much I can do about that.  If things do not improve, I would rather have surgery to clear out those arteries that take the drugs.  So I guess we will see.  Any suggestions?  And John, I am sorry I have not sent my food diary as planned, I have been in a tither about all of this.  Will do it next week!  Trish

Stress is horrible when a person is trying to lower BP and/or cholesterol. An uphill battle. Do you try to eat/drink the foods that are good for both conditions? And those same foods help your liver, too, while they are helping your BP and cholesterol. The DASH diet is really great for checking out these foods, and it worked perfectly in sync with my SWAMI diet. My BP dropped like a rock and my cholesterol dropped over 80 points!! I drank a big glass of celery, lettuce and carrots that I blended in my blender every morning. Sometimes I drank another glassful later in the day. It is wonderful for the stomach - acid reflux - you name it! If you are not familiar with the DASH diet there are numerous sites where you can read about it and get information. Good luck!

Posted by: Spring, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 7:36pm; Reply: 5
Oh, and when I had my carotids checked they said the plaque was minimal. The lowest reading they ever get on adults!
Posted by: trish44, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 8:23pm; Reply: 6
Thank you all!  I will check out the DASH as well as the nattokinase.  Seems I have seen the latter somewhere.  I like the juice idea, and I have a juicer, and just bought extra spinach, carrots, celery and ginger.  Am going to have that at least once per day, and get on the aerdyne for at least five minutes a day to start.  I am going to make a difference by the end of March!  It is just so frustrating when I thought I was doing so well!
Posted by: D.L., Saturday, January 14, 2012, 8:37pm; Reply: 7
I've read a lot about the side effects of meds, but I don't want surgery if I can get around it, and only as a last result. I am supposed to be taking a statin for my cholesterol but instead I take red yeast rice for cholesterol and milk thistle for my liver, which was inflamed. I took one round of statins and blood pressure meds when I got out of the hospital but gave them up because of side effects. I've lowered my cholesterol 75 points in six months. My triglycerides are still high because I am trying to get my pre-diabetes under control. I also don't take my blood pressure meds. I take Barlean's fish oil, CoQ10, vitamins C,(1,000 mg in divided doses), B complex, B12 sublingual, a multi, L-carnitine, calcium citrate, magnesium, potassium, D3, and a baby aspirin instead, which has lowered my blood pressure to usually below 120 (if I don't eat salt). It was 206 the night before I went in the hospital with bad chest pains and down my arm. A couple weeks ago I started taking half a Protandim and hawthorn. I haven't had my blood checked since I started these two, but I feel much better. Circulation is better. I don't drink caffeine any more nor take allergy pills, both of which can influenced blood pressure. I walk two miles a day on my treadmill and read Dr. D's books to reduce stress.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 9:37pm; Reply: 8
LOL don't worry sweetie deep slow breaths. oxo
Posted by: Joyce, Saturday, January 14, 2012, 10:04pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from trish44
Thank you all!  I will check out the DASH as well as the nattokinase.  Seems I have seen the latter somewhere.  !


There is a lot of good info about nattokinase on the forum etc of http://www.yourhealthbase.com
for those of us with atrial fibrillation - I take it all the while instead of rat poison!

http://www.afibbers.net/forum/list.php?f=9

Note the login info above the username and password boxes.

Do ask for help on the forum if you can't find the NK info.
Posted by: Spring, Sunday, January 15, 2012, 12:16am; Reply: 10
Quoted from Joyce
There is a lot of good info about nattokinase on the forum etc of http://www.yourhealthbase.com
for those of us with atrial fibrillation - I take it all the while instead of rat poison!


LOL
Posted by: Spring, Sunday, January 15, 2012, 12:28am; Reply: 11
Quoted from trish44
Thank you all!  I will check out the DASH as well as the nattokinase.  Seems I have seen the latter somewhere.  I like the juice idea, and I have a juicer, and just bought extra spinach, carrots, celery and ginger.  Am going to have that at least once per day, and get on the aerdyne for at least five minutes a day to start.  I am going to make a difference by the end of March!  It is just so frustrating when I thought I was doing so well!


If I were going to bet, your main problem is the stress. So you definitely don't need to stress about this. You have done EXTREMELY WELL! In fact, it is incredible!  Your body is just needing a little help, and you are intent on providing it, so I think by March, or possibly a whole lot earlier, you are going to be seeing a lot of improvement!! Keep us posted!!
Posted by: trish44, Monday, January 16, 2012, 2:34pm; Reply: 12
DL, I take all of those you mentioned except the arginine, and now I remember that last year I did take it, I don't remember for how many months, but perhaps that was helpful.  Thanks for your post.  And yes, I am going to exercise more, and deep breathe!!!  I also switched to levothyroxin this year from armour, as my insurance is not paying for the latter.  That was another difference in 2011 as compared to 2010.  Wonder if that had an effect.  Well, I will do my best.  Oh, and I watched a real simple movie last night, so relaxing.  Took my pressure after it was over, and it was lower than ever.  I see how I need to find a way to relax.  Thanks, all.....
Posted by: Spring, Monday, January 16, 2012, 3:20pm; Reply: 13
Trish44, it is amazing how seemingly small things can have such a beneficial effect. Accumulated over many days we can just imagine the whopping results we will see!!
Posted by: trish44, Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 1:30am; Reply: 14
I think you are right, we just need to accumulate, accumulate, accumulate!   ;)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 3:50am; Reply: 15
I d follow the cardio book and protocols therein

in the meantime, take a quick look at the online protocol index.....some will be calling your name

finding out your secretor status might be in order
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