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Posted by: 312 (Guest), Sunday, December 25, 2011, 3:36am
I feel like a broken record, but I am now 55, still havin regular heavy periods
and over the last few years the fibroids are making me look 16 weeks preggo.
I wanted to try to wait this out, but am now considering hysterectomy.
I am weak from anemia  despite diet and iron supplements.  Daughter
and sisters are saying its taking nutrients from me like a huge parasite.
Besides all this my marriage is pretty much on the rocks.  I feel like I need
to give up.  I still follow my swami  but it's not enough.  My cholesterol is very
low as is my blood pressure.  I am scared about why they grew so fast
in the last few years....trying to decide what is left to try to shrink them.  I have lost
a little weight, but the fibroids still reach above my belly button....trying to focus on cancer book
but maybe I should focus on the menopause book.....
Last thing I want to say is I wonder about dairy, lactose intolerance, casein and what they have to
with fibroids.  I grew up on much dairy, loved cheese & cheese cake.  Always had half n half in my
tea/coffee.  Many women who have these growths are african american, and I believe dairy doesn't agree
with them either.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, December 25, 2011, 4:30am; Reply: 1
Do you keep a food diary?
Do you consume dairy or wheat including hidden stuff?
How complaint are you?
How much and of what kind of sugar do you eat?
Do you drink much green tea?
what supplements do yo take?

do you drink much alcohol?
Posted by: deblynn3, Sunday, December 25, 2011, 5:05am; Reply: 2
I had a hysterectomy (before BTD) at 46. Although I would have liked to have a second child, I had one growth which filled my entire uterus.  If you can keep your ovaries they will still provide some hormones. I'm now just entering menopause. I do not regret that choice.  

I know this is not the popular choice on this forum.  For me having a hysterectomy while keeping my ovaries, was the right choice. My life has been much better and healthier for it. you will have to make what is the right decision for yourself.

Just know that all here are hoping for your best.
Posted by: jeanb, Sunday, December 25, 2011, 2:06pm; Reply: 3
Generally, in older women, a large uterus with fibroids is caused by unopposed estrogen.  Ask your doctor for progesterone (not premarin), take for 25 days at night, supplement with Vit A at least 50,000 iu units per day while bleeding.  

Get any book by Dr. Uzzi Reiss, he explains the relationship of estrogen to fibroids and heavy bleeding.

Posted by: chrissyA, Sunday, December 25, 2011, 3:43pm; Reply: 4
You may have estrogen dominance as well. The suppliment DIM will help with that, but if you feel that hysterectomy is what's right for you, you need to follow what you feel. Or maybe a less invasive procedure, such as an endometrial ablation, but I don't know if that will help with a fibroid issue.

I feel for you - feminine issues are so difficult. And it all depends on having the rare gyn who is female friendly.
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Sunday, December 25, 2011, 3:58pm; Reply: 5
Thanks  everyone, I do feel that unopposed estrogen is probably going on, since I have low cholesterol
and probably resultingly low progesterone.  Somewhere I read the two are related, if one is low the other is too, I think cholesterol makes progesterone but I may be wrong.  I will see what I can do yet,
I am still so hesitant to have the hysterectomy, I feel attached to my uterus, after 5 kids, etc.  Can't imagine not having it even though people say I don't need it anymore at my age and all.... :-/
Posted by: O baby, Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 4:40am; Reply: 6
I am 38 and had a hysterectomy last year in July (2010) although I cannot speak on behalf of anyone other then myself I can tell you that it has made a world of difference for me. My iron levels were dangerously low and  I was at the point in which I was going to be hospitalized and put on an iv drip with iron. No amount of eating meat or taking iron pills could out weigh a period that did'nt end for almost a year....( and yes I went to countless dr's) I wont even go into detail about how heavy they were  :X.  

I did not know about the BTD before hand so I cannot say whether it would or would not have worked for me, just that its a personal choice and it was successful for me. My iron is back and so is my energy and that is stil before the BTD... that just enhanced everything  ;)
Posted by: balletomane, Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 5:01am; Reply: 7
Paula, I really feel for you. I am having a similar situation. In your case, perhaps estrogen dominance is a key issue. Have you ever done a hormone test (preferably saliva test) to find out?

For me, the issue is a bit complicated. I was tested to have both low estrogen and low progesterone levels. I put myself on bio-identical progesterone cream treatment for about 2 years. The effects seem to be tapering off.

About 3 months ago I went to see a TCM practitioner. She gave me some herbs that were supposed to relieve my stagnation and push things out of my system more quickly. However, the result was completely opposite. My period prolonged to more than 35 days and my belly has been so bloated (like 4-5 month pregnant) that it seriously affects my physiology and self-image. I also have started to develop a serious depression the week before and during my period, so bad that I actually got suicidal. However, the flow during the period was normal and I didn't get any pain.

I should add that about 2 months ago I had a consultation with Dr. Nash and she told me to stop using the progesterone cream, vitex and maca, etc. as there were too many "conflicting signals" in my body. She also gave me a personalized diet plan using her professional version of SWAMI. In it, I am allowed a more liberal portion of grains and compliant cheeses--which I gladly started to allow myself.

Now my TCM doctor has asked me to restart the vitex due to the lack of improvements. She also noticed that my tongue is still a pale pink despite my intake of a lot of red meat.

I don't know. I have been wondering if the fibroids that I have are taking up too much nutrients and continue to intoxicate my body? Is an operating worth it? I dread it so, knowing that I'm super sensitive to all kinds of chemicals and drugs--and these are bound to be injected during the operation. Dr Nash said I'm very close to being an Explorer, which I believe explains my super sensitivity to environmental toxins.

So, Paula, I don't have any answer for you, except to tell you that you are not alone in this battle. I want to try everything non-intrusive possible before opting for a surgery. But the question is, when the fibroid is already at a certain big size, is it worth the effort?
Posted by: Dianne, Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 5:01am; Reply: 8
I had a uterine ablation in 2005 and while the first year was an adjustment for my body, I am pleased with my decision and the outcome. No more anemia and feeling half-dead all of the time. Many areas of my life were affected by such low energy levels and monthly flooding. If the procedure had been available sooner I would have opted for it rather than suffer all those years.

I believe that you must make the right decision for yourself and I understand the concern of your relatives.
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Tuesday, December 27, 2011, 7:23pm; Reply: 9
Thanks ladies, I am still trying to weigh the options.  Had a long serious discussion with my husband last night and this morning.  He said I had signs of this fibroid situation for quite some time, which is correct. It probably grew most during the last pregancy I had, as I never reallly went down much after that.  That was 21 years ago!  But it was a c-section, with the resultant scar tissue I assume.  Right now I am trying enzymes, iron supps, eating right, liver support supps, etc.  I still don't want the hysterectomy but most women who I talk to who have done it sound like O Baby and feel an improvement in their well being after healing from it.  I think I need to visit an ND in this area, or arrange to call Dr. Nash like Balletomane did.  That looks like the next step.
Posted by: balletomane, Wednesday, December 28, 2011, 12:29pm; Reply: 10
Paula, it's good that you are weighing the options and taking things slowly. If you opt for a surgery, it doesn't necessarily have to be a hysterectomy. There are doctors skillful enough to just cut away the fibroid without removing the uterus. Where I live, I have even met a surgent who can do this with minimally invasion surgery. However, he charges an arm and a leg, which I can't afford.

I am also trying different things but at the moment, it seems to me that my TCM treatment is not working to my benefits. I'll give it another month and consult Dr. Nash as soon as she is available.

One time I had a great reduction in the size of the fibroids, and that was when I had been practicing positive affirmations (à la Louise Hay) and releasing the negative sentiments (resentments) that I had harbored in my heart (womb) for a long time. I believe this has worked miracles! However, I did not keep up with it. I'm ready to pick up the practice again. Perhaps you'd also like to check out this option?
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Thursday, December 29, 2011, 4:25am; Reply: 11
Thanks Balletomane,

I have heard of Louise Hay's work and I even found an ebook with similar ideas that I read.  But my gut instinct is that it's my liver/explorerness and not detoxing out hormones.  My sister who is  a nurse
said that an enlarged uterus puts out additional estrogen, so it makes sense that my hormones are out of synch, and maybe that's why I still have a regular period at 55.  I am still trying to decide what to do.  My sister had a hysterectomy around 5 years ago,  and she's 5 years younger than me.  She was having heavy periods, anemia and some scarring from 2 C-sections.  I have similar stuff going on now.
Anyway thanks for the ideas!  I'll keep you all posted.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, December 29, 2011, 2:15pm; Reply: 12
b-mane ;) :D :K) beautiful words, balsam for my soul ;) today I'm even more convinced that we are all able to convert all kind of sickness... but really ALL!!!
First there are thoughts... thoughts become things....and if you add the right feeling... wow the endeffect  for me today is, for the second time fibroid shrinked(due to Pt= using the oils for months worked marvellous for me as well added with Louise Hays' affirmations and Dr. D's visualizations' ;) ;D.... I feel pretty,happy but a bit too much of weight ;) ;D..... :o :B :X

Paula.... in April of this year a gynie told me...., no he tried to convince me,... to go for surgery; I said no thank you (after having seen about sideeffects and
problems during or after surgery with bladder incontinence etc.... :o :o(eek)(dizzy)(hand)(scared))and especially anaesthesia for us the explorers.... aaarrrgghhh nothing for me.....(naughty)(what)but my dearle, many ways lead to Rome.... choose the right-one ;) ;D...wish you to find yours....  :K) 8)(clap)(smarty)(dance)(ok)
Posted by: balletomane, Saturday, December 31, 2011, 2:06am; Reply: 13
Paula,

Wow, I didn't know that an enlarged uterus puts out additional estrogen. That might be happening to me right now then. Anyway, wouldn't harm a bit to exercise our thinking pattern. It is free and joyful to do :)

Isa,

Congratz on the shrinkage! Again, you are a source of inspiration. Yes, I have been slacking off in the use of the PT. Was out of steam and discouraged for a while. Thanks for reigniting me!
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, December 31, 2011, 3:31am; Reply: 14
Quoted from balletomane

I am also trying different things but at the moment, it seems to me that my TCM treatment is not working to my benefits. I'll give it another month and consult Dr. Nash as soon as she is available.


It might make sense to let the practitioner know about the troublesome things you are noticing so that she can adjust your protocol.  
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, December 31, 2011, 9:56am; Reply: 15
ther's a time for everything b-manchen ;) ;D... and really we do need to take  this time (out-time :D ).... I needed muchmore time and stress is almost the answer to such issues as well; we've to remember that uterus stands for creative energies... and if we reset our energies... hold on.... :o :-/ :B :P... it will manifest itself in any kind of issues .... it is that simple.... but we don't often remember who WE are in reality....(pick_nose)(smile) wish you all the very best for your female energies ;) ......
Posted by: balletomane, Saturday, December 31, 2011, 2:42pm; Reply: 16
Victoria, yes, I mentioned those issues to my TCM practitioner and she has readjusted the ingredients of the herbs she gave me. I still feel bloated but will finish this course of herbs to see if there is any difference this time, and then let her know next time I meet her.

Isa, wonderful thought about the feminine energy. I recently hit the "reset button"  ;D Totally let myself be lazy and introvert for three weeks. Now I feel recharged and my zest for life coming back!

I also skipped going to ballet class during this period, so as to avoid the constant self-criticism I imposed on my body when I'm in my leotard. I allow myself to let the fibroids just be there... and it's OK to be a little bit "fat". I think it helps to first accept everything in my body, including the imperfections, and actually feel alright about them. Perhaps this will bring forth a kind of energy shift?!

Onwards and upwards!(sunny)
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Saturday, December 31, 2011, 3:27pm; Reply: 17
All good words, girls....Isa which oils did you use?  In what ways?  That is something I have not tried.
In January, I like to go on a "diet" change for a couple of weeks, but I have not decided which to try this year.  Usually it's just no caffeine except for green tea, no alcohol after New Years Day, simple more fruits & veggies and legumes, but I have not decided, maybe only fish for a time...  Pesca-vegetarian alla explorer list.  I guess it's a cleaner diet with a leaning toward detoxification.  I need to
gently detox this part of my body.  :)
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Sunday, January 1, 2012, 6:09pm; Reply: 18
But I have been reading more and I believe that I have more a problem with insulin, or hyperinsulinemia.  I believe it fits the gatherer profile.  I was a "fertile Myrtle" in my youth.  
Well, I was following a diet plan that's called anti-estrogenic, while using foods from swami.
So it was a grapefruit in the am, then on to light eating of organic foods, with dinner being the
main meal, usually of fish.  It includes lots of cruciferous veggies to help with detox of estrogen,
lots of probiotics in the am, which I usually do anyway with my polyflora.  
Now I am thinking I need what's left of my estrogen at this point of my life.  I am having symptoms
that are reminiscent of low estrogen that women talk about while in menopause.  Soooo, I think
it's really the insulin thing with me causing excess cell growth in the old uterus.  
Once Lola talked about cleaning out the insulin receptors, but I wasn't sure how, maybe with Deflect?
Also, PC mentions above all the ways to check my compliance on the GTD/BTD.
I really appreciate being able to discuss this here.  Hoping things are still reversable!
Posted by: balletomane, Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 1:10am; Reply: 19
Paula, this is a complex issue and I don't really have anything to add to it. I remember Lola said that carbs fuel inflammation/growth of our fibroids, so we have to watch out. For me, it seems that starchy veggies and certain grains contribute to growth.

If it's within your means, I highly recommend a phone consultation with Dr. Ginger Nash, who will be able to answer many of your questions and give you a precise personalized diet plan. (Should you decide to do so, you can make an appointment with her assistant Becky at office@gingernash.com.)

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, January 5, 2012, 12:09am; Reply: 20
Quoted Text
carbs fuel inflammation/growth of our fibroids


there are carbs and then there are carbs.......to each their own.....frequency values are given if specified when running a swami
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