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Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, December 15, 2011, 1:23pm
hello folks

justamente I was wondering if anybody of you (espec. therapists) do have any infos or experiences for the use of graviola in cancertherapy... Thanx for your kind replies :K) from Isa
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 8:13pm; Reply: 1
I have no experience using it for cancer treatment, but I love the fruit.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 8:26pm; Reply: 2
Graviola, Paw-Paw, Graviola, Guanabana
rated for GT, for its antioxidant and other beneficial components no doubt

check out the rational behind the fruit on your swami pro report done by Charlie
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, December 15, 2011, 9:02pm; Reply: 3
merci  :D
Posted by: Joyce, Friday, December 16, 2011, 4:29pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from Amazone I.
hello folks

justamente I was wondering if anybody of you (espec. therapists) do have any infos or experiences for the use of graviola in cancertherapy... Thanx for your kind replies :K) from Isa


Hello Isa,
A friend used graviola and the flaxoil/cottage cheese mix for her typeO husband who had prostate cancer.
He did also have allopathic treatment, which I think was a hormone implant.
His PSA numbers shot downwards and stayed low for many years and eventually he died in his 80's of pneumonia.
I could ask for more info or put you in touch if you'd like me to.
She's not on this board.
Joyce
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, December 16, 2011, 5:55pm; Reply: 5
hello Joyce,

thank you for your kind help and yup if there are further infos, I'd be more then happy to receive them.....(dance)(smarty)(clap)
Posted by: Joyce, Friday, December 16, 2011, 9:28pm; Reply: 6
I've emailed your request to Jo, Isa.
Will be in touch :)
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, December 16, 2011, 10:46pm; Reply: 7
thank you very much again dearest Joyce :K)
Posted by: Joyce, Saturday, December 17, 2011, 9:02am; Reply: 8
Hi again Isa,

edited note below from Jo this am

Isa if you pm me your email address I'll pass it on, if that's OK.



Hi Joyce.
Yes.by e-mail but probably not until late Monday.
Busy weekend.  Brother and I are going to........
Back on Monday.

What do I remember about it - the dose is related to body weight.  May
cause sleepiness and depression -
But D lived beyond the 5 year survival time after diagnosis.
Will think about it over the weekend.

Jo
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, December 17, 2011, 9:25am; Reply: 9
dearest Joyce thank you very much... and also a biig huge thank you to Jo


it's all about my dieying ebf Hardy... I'm not sure if all isn't too late... :'(
oncology sent him home agter months of crazy treatments but it was up to him to decide :o :((scared)

I gave him 600mg's 3-4 times daily I think he's about 78 kilos right now but loosing weight rapidly....(mad)
Posted by: Joyce, Saturday, December 17, 2011, 6:24pm; Reply: 10
I've emailed you and Jo together, hope you catch up with one another....and that it is not too late for some improvement.
With love,
Joyce x
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 5:32pm; Reply: 11
till now no contact..... :-/(shrug)
Posted by: Joyce, Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 6:15pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Amazone I.
till now no contact..... :-/(shrug)


Jo definitely has received your email, but did have a family funeral to deal with last weekend.
I hope she does contact you soon, but will ask tomorrow if not.

Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 10:10pm; Reply: 13
ooops so sorry to read about this issue... tell her all my best wishes pleas and thank you again for helping out ;) :D  :K)

I asked Hardy to take 2x2 (à600mg's) capsules daily and it seems it fits ....(smile)
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 10:24pm; Reply: 14
Isa .. you have many ill people around you...

all the best.. schoene Weihnachten.. a guet's neus..
Posted by: Joyce, Wednesday, December 21, 2011, 2:08pm; Reply: 15
There should be 2 emails winging their way to you, Isa.
I'll cut and paste relevant info on here a bit later too, as it might help someone else also.
Joyce
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, January 2, 2012, 7:24pm; Reply: 16
thank you dearest Joyce, I sended the replies ;) :D but it seems that he doesn't correspond onto the supplement.... :'(
Posted by: Dr. D, Monday, January 2, 2012, 9:43pm; Reply: 17
Read about 'acetogenins' (also in Paw-Paw and Avocado).
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, January 2, 2012, 10:38pm; Reply: 18
:K) thank you, Peter (smarty)(ok)(clap)
Posted by: Dr. D, Tuesday, January 3, 2012, 12:06pm; Reply: 19
Acetogenins work by similar mechanism as DCA.
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 2:31pm; Reply: 20
hello you all,

thanx for having tried to sustain us, but the battle is lost, Hardy is going to die soon in the next few days.... he isn't anymore able to walk, nor even to speak correctly, he has lost a lot of weight and became lucide in his mind :-/ :o.....
so far a big sign that death isn't that far anymore.....ok we've won 3 years when cancer popped in some years ago and whitecoated told us that there's only some days left for him.... >:( haaaa... we gained with BTD and lots of supplements 3x365 days.... thank you Peter for your wonderful guydancy, thank you Yaeli for your kind sustain of my own, and thank you the whole boards to have been there to listen or better said read my complains... now I'm able to shut up... :'( :K)(dissappointed)(mad)(blush)
This is sooo unfair... I hate to undergo such circumstances... to loose one of my friends or patients.... it is soooo unfair...(scared)(verymad) >:( >:( >:(
+"*ç%&/()=?`^!$_:;,.-<>   :'( :X sorry but I needed to vent a bit.... :'(
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 3:30pm; Reply: 21
{{{{{HUGS}}}}}

He is dear to me

:'(  :'(   :-/  :K)

Please know that I am with you in these hours

Love yaeli
Posted by: Joyce, Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 7:27pm; Reply: 22
Hugs to you Isa.  Hardy has made his own choices as we all do ultimately .... but you've both done so well to win a few extra years.  Take heart from that please.

Thankyou for the extra info Dr D.
I have an O type friend just a couple of weeks ago diagnosed with prostate cancer... he's waiting for results of MRI and bone scans I believe.
I gave him copies of ER and Genotype some months ago.
Posted by: Joyce, Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 7:30pm; Reply: 23
http://www.pawpawresearch.com/pawpawworks.htm
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 8:54pm; Reply: 24
thank you Joyce and your kind friend who helped me also in words and scripts... btw... all the native people using those fruits are from the Amazonas; so far + - we might think those are merely all of Bt O...... no wonder that those fruits seem to be superbenes for all O's but what's about the other Bt's ??) Any suggs or advices here or even experiences??)...

Paw Paw seem to be a super potent fruit....wow...(clap)(ok)(dance)I think I need some samples for my testings..... will let you all know what's about the results.... amazing...amazing stuff......

(eek)(smarty)(ok)
Posted by: cajun, Thursday, January 5, 2012, 6:46pm; Reply: 25
Amazone,
I am so sorry for your loss and will pray for comfort and strength for you.
Posted by: balletomane, Friday, January 6, 2012, 12:35pm; Reply: 26
Dear Isa,

{{{{{{BIG HUGS}}}}}

Just want to give you some support and comfort at this difficult time.....

An acquaintance recently had undergone operation for prostate cancer... he is suffering from side effects :'(

I also wonder what would be a natural option to strengthen him... He's Type A.

Strength and peace to you... and to your ebf!

Louisa
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, January 6, 2012, 2:33pm; Reply: 27
:K) :K) to all ... Hardy is still there but I think  only until Sunday all might be over .... I do have all goodies like morphin and other stuffs to get downed his pains....thank you all to help me out of that errible situation mentally and psychologically.....I feel a strong aid from some of you...thank you  :K)(smile)
Posted by: Joyce, Friday, January 6, 2012, 3:04pm; Reply: 28
Still checking in for you Isa, what a long drawn out sorrow for you  :'( :K)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:17pm; Reply: 29
Hardy died today at 14.45h swiss time I feel so sad :'(
Posted by: Joyce, Sunday, January 8, 2012, 6:54pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from Amazone I.
Hardy died today at 14.45h swiss time I feel so sad :'(


(((Hugs))) for you.  :K)
:'( for Hardy - each tear shed is a step to Heaven.

Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, January 9, 2012, 12:20pm; Reply: 31
thanx Joyce  :K) and I felt sad and very very angry not that only that he's gone but that our hands are terribly empty even while hoping and looking for remedies in natural forms as therapists... it seems that bloody malady is that aggressive that nearly nothing can stop it... but I'm sure and certain that a huge componente is to be seen in psyche patters as well .... sometimes I'm asking myselve if I shouldn't change my profession... :-/ :B >:((eek)(dizzy)(mad)
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Monday, January 9, 2012, 1:01pm; Reply: 32
Isa a big hug,
my father came back home once saying "stop the world, I want to get off" for a 28 years old patient they could not help at all with lung cancer.You did your best for him and everybody, please do not give in to burnt out. Oncologists know well what it is. Let you grief and burnt out go on their schedule.
We cannot do more than our best
I feel for you !
Posted by: deblynn3, Monday, January 9, 2012, 3:08pm; Reply: 33
{{{{hugs}}}}} Isa, give yourself some time. You did you best, I'm sure he was better with you, than without. So will the next person. Take a little "me" time. Rebuild your energy.
Posted by: Joyce, Monday, January 9, 2012, 4:16pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from Amazone I.
but I'm sure and certain that a huge componente is to be seen in psyche patters as well


Agree

Quoted Text

.... sometimes I'm asking myselve if I shouldn't change my profession... :-/ :B >:((eek)(dizzy)(mad)


Don't agree

Look after yourself and recharge your own batteries  :K)
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