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Posted by: O plus, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 12:07am


I'm really sensitive to them. But guess I've got to take 'em? Panicked and drove myself to ER for lot of blood in my urine. They gave me an IV dose. REALLY worked well. Also prescribed bactrim. Not agreeing with me at all.

All is clear ..uh.. down there. DO I really need to keep taking them? Hate the jitteryness. Feels like I'm on speed. The written list of side effects list isn't inspiring either. TIA
Posted by: Lloyd, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 12:40am; Reply: 1
Best to take the full course if you can hack it.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 12:49am; Reply: 2
I'm always wary before starting antibiotics (in myself or my kids) but once started, it's REALLY dangerous to stop in the middle. That's how antibiotic-resistant  bacteria get created. If you're having such a bad reaction that you need to stop taking them in the middle, doctors will usually immediately start you on another antibiotic to minimize the chance of creating "superbugs." If you're really having a rough time with side effects, call up your doctor and see about changing to a different antibiotic.

You had an emergency and needed to take them. Now you need to finish out the course of antibiotics, live with the side effects, and work on rebuilding your immune system. You need to rebuild for two reasons: the "good  germs" are being killed off along with the "bad germs" because of the antibiotic, and you need to re-populate your gut with "good germs" to keep your gut flora in good shape. Secondly, you must have had some kind of immune system imbalance to begin with, or you wouldn't have had an infection requiring antibiotics in the first place. So you need to strengthen your immune system (besides just taking probiotics) to fix whatever was weak to begin with.

Don't feel bad about your decision to go to the ER. Blood in my urine would have freaked me out too. Antibiotics DO have their place in medicine; and this sounds to me like an appropriate use of them.
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 2:50am; Reply: 3
Depends on why & how you reacted to them?? This would determine whether to change to a dose you can tolerate...
There are so many different ingredients in drugs & different types of antibiotics, some that are better tolerated than others... ??)
Ruthie - I would never advise someone point blank: "You had an emergency and needed to take them. Now you need to finish out the course of antibiotics..."  For someone with a sulphur reaction it would never be advisable to continue with the wrong antibiotic!!!!
Posted by: O plus, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 2:53am; Reply: 4
Really appreciate the replies.

Sulfur reaction? Hmm. Wish I'd have seen your post. Guess I'll see how I feel tomorrow. Confusion is another side affect I'm getting.  Couldn't the IV at the hosp. have been nuclear enough to do the job?

It's generic bactrim so I haven't a clue.  But the potential liver damage (among other things) warning on the instructions was kinda scary. I have a very sensitive liver. They just wind me up like a clock big time. They are effective at what they're supposed to do. But ugh.

Sorry for all the edits. It's the bactrim talkin'. Can't even think straight. I wrote their instead they're. I don't remember the last time I've done that.
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 4:18am; Reply: 5
Grab some Milk Thistle for liver detox, or some of Dr. D's Hepitaguard, if you have it.  

And check out the Protocols for Antibiotic Support, Liver Support and Detoxification
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm
Posted by: O plus, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 4:36pm; Reply: 6
Feel much better today. But still want to quit. Maybe if I try Hulda Clark's kidney detox and quit all sugar. I had to use antibiotics 3 months back for an abscess tooth. Got off 'em in less than a week. Dentist told me after pulling it I didn't need to keep on.  Guess this is a dif ball of wax?
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 5:28pm; Reply: 7
Call your doctor; either the one in the ER who prescribed them or your PCP. If you're truly having a horrendous reaction, your doctor may want to switch you to another antibiotic. Or, he or she may evaluate the whole situation and decide that the risk of antibiotic-resistant bugs developing isn't significant because you had IV meds first, or you've already had enough doses, or whatever. I'm not a doctor. I just know that stopping a course of antibiotics in the middle is a risky business, and shouldn't be done without medical supervision.
Posted by: O plus, Thursday, December 15, 2011, 6:44pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Call your doctor; either the one in the ER who prescribed them or your PCP. If you're truly having a horrendous reaction, your doctor may want to switch you to another antibiotic. Or, he or she may evaluate the whole situation and decide that the risk of antibiotic-resistant bugs developing isn't significant because you had IV meds first, or you've already had enough doses, or whatever. I'm not a doctor. I just know that stopping a course of antibiotics in the middle is a risky business, and shouldn't be done without medical supervision.



Took your advice. Called the VA. The nurse said stop taking it if I'm having a reaction. I have to wait to hear back if they want me on something else. She seemed to think the comb. of the hosp IV and the last 5 days on this I should be ok.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, December 15, 2011, 8:58pm; Reply: 9
nearly all kinds of essential oils and tinctures and essences do the same... so far we really don't need to take this junk... I justemente read the descriptions of Dr. Jean Valnets literature all about side effects of chemical bombes... man oh man... nada para me either.... and we all still think those wouldn't harm... justamente got some beautiful stories about iatrogenic diseases.... jaminei  :o :-/(hand)(constipated) :X :X
Posted by: Possum, Friday, December 16, 2011, 2:31am; Reply: 10
Glad you called the medics re this - something is ringing alarm bells with me re bactrim & allergies... :-/ Will update as & when I find what I have on file... :)

Couldn't find what I was actually looking for but did find these notes in my file:- not all will be relevant obviously but imo worth something...

Medications like antibiotics, vitamins and supplements, often contain fructose or sorbitol, so it is suggested to find their fructose/sorbitol free alternatives.

Those having a poor acetylation system are far more susceptible to sulfa drugs and other antibiotics. Acetylation is dependent on thiamine, pantothenic acid, and vitamin C...

Any health problems that compromise digestion and/or absorption of nutrients can contribute to deficiency of vitamin K. Any drugs that alter our normal intestinal bacteria can compromise our vitamin K status. At the top of this drug list would be antibiotics but also included would be some anti-seizure medications, sulfa-drugs, and salicylate-containing drugs...Sulphites is another concern...;)

For next time (if you get a tooth situation again) apparently it is possible to fight a bad abscess without antibiotics.  
Take massive amount of acidophilus, colostrum, olive leaf extract with oregano oil, and grapefruit seed extract...
Posted by: BTypeAUS, Friday, December 16, 2011, 2:37am; Reply: 11
What antibiotic were you given? I'm allergic to penicillin and it's family..you might be too if you were give that for a urinary tract infection ..and like ruthie said, always finish the course even if you feel better ...hope you get well soon,
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, December 16, 2011, 2:07pm; Reply: 12
Possum...(clap)(clap)(ok)(smarty)good statement.... thanx for sharing your opinions...:K)

btw... the non& ultra seem to be the following mix...transdermal: 40ml of jojoba oil as a basic oil; 30drops of arab menthe,20drops of coriandre,20drops of cajeput and some 20 drops of my 50:50% mix of lavender and Niauli oil... peeps....I only can say great  ;D :D(dance)(hehe)(woot)(kewl)
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, December 17, 2011, 4:18am; Reply: 13
Quoted from Amazone I.
... nada para me either....
Is that "Franglish"? ;)
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, December 17, 2011, 4:28am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Amazone I.
Possum...(clap)(clap)(ok)(smarty)good statement.... thanx for sharing your opinions...:K)
Thankyou indeed!! Just trying to be helpful ;)

Posted by: Beachgirl, Saturday, December 17, 2011, 6:10am; Reply: 15
My oldest son & I, both O's cannot take Bactrim or any sulfa meds.  They don't "wind us up", but we break out in lovely allergic rashes.  Actually, there's not many antibiotics I CAN take without reacting to, on the rare occasion that I actually need them, no one will prescribe them for me because I react to so many.  When you are given i.v. antibiotics, it's usually much more potent, so I would figure between the i.v. & the 5 day course, you would be okay.  JMO of course.   ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, December 17, 2011, 8:33am; Reply: 16
TJ.."We" don't know ;) ;D
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, December 17, 2011, 6:25pm; Reply: 17
"Franglish" = English mixed with French 8)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, December 18, 2011, 9:56pm; Reply: 18
clarrrooo que si... jo lo vista  ;D(kewl)(grin)
Posted by: O plus, Monday, December 19, 2011, 12:35am; Reply: 19
Quoted from Possum
Glad you called the medics re this - something is ringing alarm bells with me re bactrim & allergies... :-/ Will update as & when I find what I have on file... :)

Couldn't find what I was actually looking for but did find these notes in my file:- not all will be relevant obviously but imo worth something...

Medications like antibiotics, vitamins and supplements, often contain fructose or sorbitol, so it is suggested to find their fructose/sorbitol free alternatives.

Those having a poor acetylation system are far more susceptible to sulfa drugs and other antibiotics. Acetylation is dependent on thiamine, pantothenic acid, and vitamin C...

Any health problems that compromise digestion and/or absorption of nutrients can contribute to deficiency of vitamin K. Any drugs that alter our normal intestinal bacteria can compromise our vitamin K status. At the top of this drug list would be antibiotics but also included would be some anti-seizure medications, sulfa-drugs, and salicylate-containing drugs...Sulphites is another concern...;)

For next time (if you get a tooth situation again) apparently it is possible to fight a bad abscess without antibiotics.  
Take massive amount of acidophilus, colostrum, olive leaf extract with oregano oil, and grapefruit seed extract...


Thanks. I'll refer to these in the future. Stopped taking 'em. Felt drained 2 days later. Had some chocolate. Big mistake. Ended up needing to take another bactrim today. But won't be going back to the chocolate or the bactrim  if can be helped.

I believe all the chocolate I've been eating has been the source of both the abcess and this infection. I've never been able to eat so much chocolate w/o gaining weight before. So, guess I got carried away. I have to learn the hard way with everything it seems.

Posted by: Possum, Monday, December 19, 2011, 2:58am; Reply: 20
Really hope you feel better soon!!  ;)
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