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Posted by: marjorie, Friday, November 11, 2011, 4:16pm
I have been always told that I am more of an extrovert which I thought was true. However, I think that is when I had a lot of nervous energy and not taking care of myself.

I am really not a fan of loud noise at work, tons of laughing and everyone slamming doors. Lately, I just feel like telling everyone to be QUIET so I can think and get my notes done. Sounds rude, I know.

I guess I am learning more about myself, and as an o hunter, I am surprised to learn that I feel most content researching, analyzing and being an focused on my work.

Do other o's resonate with this, or is it odd?

Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Friday, November 11, 2011, 4:39pm; Reply: 1
I often don't fit in well in workplaces even though I work hard.  I was told at my last job that I'm a "powerhouse" but was also mistreated a lot; ie, a lot of ageism, criticism of my size etc.  I prefer a quiet environment also and tend to keep to myself.  Yet I've also worked at jobs with a lot of personal contact and face to face activity and though I can do that, I'm finding that it's not what I enjoy most.  
Posted by: deblynn3, Friday, November 11, 2011, 5:09pm; Reply: 2
I'm a gatherer, I think I work well with others and had always worked with the public (sales). However I really like the jobs I have now. Cleaning at night with only BD. Who is working her part of the job by herself and I work at home (sewing) I can do eather but I enjoy working alone. Some of that may just be age and I like doing things on my one time and I like not having to drive.
Posted by: Looking4Answers, Friday, November 11, 2011, 5:18pm; Reply: 3
Marjorie, have you ever taken the Myers Briggs type indicator test?  It can provide you with helpful insights as to why you do the things you do.  I myself have always been an introvert, but some of my happiest memories are of when all three of my sons were home, playing video games, laughing loudly and just generally having a good old raucous time.  But then again, I NEED my downtime in huge chunks.  If I don't get that, then I am just not fun to be around.  
Posted by: Looking4Answers, Friday, November 11, 2011, 5:23pm; Reply: 4
Btw, I am also an O type Hunter, and I do best when I work quietly at home alone.  I absolutely despise working with the public, as in a retail setting.  I have also worked in an office setting, and while it was somewhat less stressful, I would much rather be all by myself without anyone telling me what to do, or when to do it.  I tend to rebel against authority...in my own quiet, introverted way, that is.   ;)
Posted by: marjorie, Friday, November 11, 2011, 5:56pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Looking4Answers
Btw, I am also an O type Hunter, and I do best when I work quietly at home alone.  I absolutely despise working with the public, as in a retail setting.  I have also worked in an office setting, and while it was somewhat less stressful, I would much rather be all by myself without anyone telling me what to do, or when to do it.  I tend to rebel against authority...in my own quiet, introverted way, that is.   ;)


I have done the test, but I need to do it again... I forget my letters... definitely an introvert though.

Well, makes me feel better to know I am not off target if I just listen to myself. Kind of excited to get into a phd program where I can channel my energy into my studies and research. Makes more sense for me.

Need to stay positive!
Posted by: PrincessMia, Friday, November 11, 2011, 9:05pm; Reply: 6
I am all for team work. I work well when people respect one another and do not back stab and are not greedy and selfish. I like to be happy go lucky. I do not like jobs that are loud and hectic. I find it hard being too close to people due to my third hand smoke problem and my sensitive nose and lungs. Someone can sit by me and I can feel unwell if they smell of smoke or if the clothes they wear were stored in a basement and of course the perfume or if they have bad body odor.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Saturday, November 12, 2011, 3:24am; Reply: 7
have you done a secretor test or have you assumed you are a secretor - to me you sound like a non secretor

also what percentage hunter are you?

what do you think is lacking in your diet or what have you reduced lately? like oil for example
Posted by: marjorie, Saturday, November 12, 2011, 4:16am; Reply: 8
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
have you done a secretor test or have you assumed you are a secretor - to me you sound like a non secretor

also what percentage hunter are you?

what do you think is lacking in your diet or what have you reduced lately? like oil for example


yes, it came up a secretor, but agree with you, I think I am a non-secretor. I need to get this done soon.

53 percent hunter.

yes, I added some oil in today, felt a little better.

I have to find a nutritionist who will do a secretor test for me, I did years agon in Boston (6 years) but I was so new to everything, I think I did it wrong..

any thoughts on how to get it done again..by someone else?
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, November 12, 2011, 5:19am; Reply: 9
What do you think you did wrong in your earlier secretor test?
Posted by: Spazcat, Saturday, November 12, 2011, 2:48pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Looking4Answers
I myself have always been an introvert, but some of my happiest memories are of when all three of my sons were home, playing video games, laughing loudly and just generally having a good old raucous time.  But then again, I NEED my downtime in huge chunks.  If I don't get that, then I am just not fun to be around.  


This sounds a lot like me, big time.  I have 3 boys as well, and I love being with them and around them (dd too!) and enjoy their infectious enthusiasm with their gaming etc.  But when I want to go to sleep, they'd better darn well be quiet 'cause I can hear every nuance of noise coming up from the basement!

Very nonnie of me.

Posted by: David, Sunday, November 13, 2011, 4:25am; Reply: 11
Hunter, I work in an extroverted capacity with others for short times in intense focus and attention, and have a majority of time working in more introverted self directed and fulfilling activities. It's a good mix.

A free 72 question quiz will show you a single personality type
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

A free 20 question quiz will show you how you are a mixture of E/I, S/N, T/F, J/P. It shows how you score across all 16 types by percentage.
http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/mmdi/questionnaire/
I'd make a note of the 6 highest scores.
Posted by: koahiatamadl, Sunday, November 13, 2011, 6:37pm; Reply: 12
Hmm, ISTJ Hunter :)  I like a bit of background noise.  After years in an open plan office I have spent the last year working in 'my office' and I am a hell of a lot less productive in my little room than I was at my desk.    But I do need time without direct interruptions and people requiring input all the time, too, which is not always easy to come by.  So my conclusion is that I like having people around me to interact with on some level and some kind of buzz around me but that I need to have time to gather my thoughts every day and work uninterrupted for perhaps up to 20% of the day, otherwise all the little things to remember and anything that requires me to focus and actually think through an issue does not get done or not get done well or in a timely fashion.  

Conclusion from that is that I need to work out how to transfer to the office in Zurich at some point because there are no plans to move my current office into a modern office space that does away with personal offices and they have just moved into a lovely modern office - I was there last Friday and it was perfect, just how I like my work environment to be...suppose I should come up with a better argument because I love the office is not going to do it  ;)
Posted by: Patty H, Sunday, November 13, 2011, 7:46pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from marjorie


yes, it came up a secretor, but agree with you, I think I am a non-secretor. I need to get this done soon.

53 percent hunter.

yes, I added some oil in today, felt a little better.

I have to find a nutritionist who will do a secretor test for me, I did years agon in Boston (6 years) but I was so new to everything, I think I did it wrong..

any thoughts on how to get it done again..by someone else?


marjorie, it is a simple blood test.  Ask your doctor to order Lewis phenotyping.  While you are at it, ask for MN phenotyping as well.  If you have health insurance, they should cover it.  It is simply another form of blood typing, like ABO blood typing.

If your doctor will not order it, although I have no idea why they would not, you can order the secretor saliva test.  I have done both.  My Lewis phenotyping confirmed my saliva testing.  Non-secretor.
Posted by: Dianne, Sunday, November 13, 2011, 9:13pm; Reply: 14
When I spoke to someone about being surprised that I am a Secretor, they mentioned that perhaps I was a light Secretor. The person I spoke with is well versed in Dr. D'Adamo health protocols. So...I guess there are different percentage strengths...but I was assured that I am still a Secretor if that is what I typed as.
Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Sunday, November 13, 2011, 10:27pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Dianne
When I spoke to someone about being surprised that I am a Secretor, they mentioned that perhaps I was a light Secretor. The person I spoke with is well versed in Dr. D'Adamo health protocols. So...I guess there are different percentage strengths...but I was assured that I am still a Secretor if that is what I typed as.


Not likely unless you're Asian. Weak secretors are very rare and more likely Asian and it still is rare in this population.
Posted by: Dianne, Monday, November 14, 2011, 3:28am; Reply: 16
Captain_Janeway : thanks for the info. I am not Asian, of French/Irish descent mostly.
Posted by: David, Monday, November 14, 2011, 7:53am; Reply: 17
perhaps they were thinking of the continuum of: non-taster---mild-taster---super-taster
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, November 14, 2011, 12:22pm; Reply: 18
I love the accurateness of the MBTI & Enneagram tests...;) ;D(cool)
Posted by: chrissyA, Monday, November 14, 2011, 4:11pm; Reply: 19
I have a hard time with the Myers-Briggs. Every time I take it I get a different result. Maybe I should do it several times and see what result occurs more often. Anybody else experience this?
Posted by: Possum, Monday, November 14, 2011, 11:21pm; Reply: 20
I find it hard to answer some of the questions - am in between both answers at times ;)
Posted by: 14922 (Guest), Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 10:03pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Looking4Answers
Btw, I am also an O type Hunter, and I do best when I work quietly at home alone.  I absolutely despise working with the public, as in a retail setting.  I have also worked in an office setting, and while it was somewhat less stressful, I would much rather be all by myself without anyone telling me what to do, or when to do it.  I tend to rebel against authority...in my own quiet, introverted way, that is.   ;)


Yeah I'm the same. I work from home when I don't travel. I do extremely well by myself. I don't like office environments with people interrupting me. And I do not like noise either. It's also why I do not want children. Ha! :)


Posted by: 14922 (Guest), Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 10:09pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from David
Hunter, I work in an extroverted capacity with others for short times in intense focus and attention, and have a majority of time working in more introverted self directed and fulfilling activities. It's a good mix.

A free 72 question quiz will show you a single personality type
http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp

A free 20 question quiz will show you how you are a mixture of E/I, S/N, T/F, J/P. It shows how you score across all 16 types by percentage.
http://www.teamtechnology.co.uk/mmdi/questionnaire/
I'd make a note of the 6 highest scores.


I'm a INFJ Hunter & a Type 5 Enneagram with a 4 wing.

Curious to check out the above links. Thanks :)
Posted by: 14922 (Guest), Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 10:10pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Amazone I.
I love the accurateness of the MBTI & Enneagram tests...;) ;D(cool)


OMG me too! :)
Posted by: Jared, Thursday, November 17, 2011, 2:16am; Reply: 24
Meyers Briggs is horrible. Awful. It is evil. Ugh no more Meyers Briggs!
Posted by: David, Monday, November 21, 2011, 8:20pm; Reply: 25
I wonder at the History of Jared's strong "J" Judgement OR is it a sensativity. From what I've read, even Blood Type incorporates qualities of MB.

Observers have sought to understand the similarities and differences between individuals and groups of individuals by one category or by one type or another throughout all known history.

(A,B,O,AB,~ SP,SJ,NT,NF ~ Astrology Fire, Air, Earth, Water, ~ psychology Melancholy, Sanguine, Choleric, Phlegmatic....)

I read that a study in Japan showed Hunter's were usually S Types and it sounded like SJ's. I am clearly a NF type and enneagram 9. I have greatly enjoyed all my experiences participating in activities that are described as classic for A and B blood types. My mother was an A; so possibly I'm an Oa.
Posted by: Jared, Monday, November 21, 2011, 8:40pm; Reply: 26
Socionics would work better with Blood type, as it incorporates physical traits.

Socionics is like the MBTI - it is also based on Jung's types. However, it is based on typing other people, you study how people form groups. That is even more compatible with blood typing, as it implies groups with physical traits would form together and become cohesive.

I seem to be an ENFj by socionics. It is like a cross between the ever kindly INFP with the ever ambitious ENTJ. In socionics, the ENFJ is called the EIE.
Posted by: SBGGJRP, Friday, January 13, 2012, 5:09pm; Reply: 27
I have always been a loner at work. I don't go in to work to socialize or party or gossip. I enjoy a quiet work setting that gives me an apportunity to learn new things and utilize that knowledge OTJ.
If there are a lot of co-workers that require much attention or  social-give-and-take from me, they  end up disappointed. I do like people, but I enjoy  solitary learning and do-ing more than chatting and group-think.

Both my siblings (females) are this way, too. Both are type O-. However, one is a Teacher and the other is a Hunter.
Posted by: zenphoenix, Friday, January 13, 2012, 10:09pm; Reply: 28
SBG...

sorry, i'm confused, are both of your sisters O- ? or is one A- and one O-?

I ask because a Teacher genotype cannot be O anything. A or AB are teachers.

O's can only be Hunter, gatherer or explorer.
Posted by: SBGGJRP, Monday, January 16, 2012, 2:08pm; Reply: 29
zenphoenix, you are right....and I am the one who was confused. Both of them are a little taller than average. Both have long, narrow heads. Both are high energytypes that can go all day and seldom get tired. One, however, is very fine-boned and slender---and her energy is more the nervous type. The other, very large-boned sister is very well-padded and muscular (not chubby, just big) and has long-term sustained focused energy rather than nervous energy. The slender sister is a medical clerk and the bigger sister has her own catering business. Her ring-fingers are shorter than her index fingers, from what I can tell. The slender sister is more of a conventionl thinker. The big-boned sister is kind of wierd and off-beat.

Both are O-. Both have legs that are longer than torso. Both have legs with longer thighs than calves.
For me, it's just a guess what their types are, bacause they will not submit to any in depth measuring and testing.

Based on this info what genotypes do they sound like?
Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 2:10pm; Reply: 30
I used to work as a group therapist at a mental health company.  I think it was stressful for me and really put me outside of my comfort zone. I am a realistic and investigative person mainly, but pretty social as well.  

Now i work for a home health care company.  I read over notes and service plans to ensure they match up, review what areas are being addressed well and not being addressed well, and helping to ensure that clients are getting the care they need.

I love this job, because i am not working with people all day in an intimate way...i found it frustrating after awhile.  Now i feel like i am working with a puzzle and making sure all the pieces fit, and like it.

I am half intro and half extro, but would much prefer to work alone like i do now with concepts and things, more than directly with people.  I have others in my office, so i like that though.
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 5:16pm; Reply: 31
a lot of O's might be ENF-types, remember it well, we do have a sort of%centage in I and-E-form

btw. no 5 in the enneagram is INTP/J and an intp is  a 5/4... intj 5/6....
no4 is infp/j....please don't confond.... :D


I observed a lot of A's might be ESTP/J'types but also confonded with no 1 =ENTP/J
both lack the f-side ;) ;D... but are vice versa integrative parts of the enneagram...(hehe)

B's often might be 4'rs or eben 8ghts ... but something else might happen; it depends how somebody can jump into the enneagram.... some peeps are able to change their NT-sides with NF'parts.... btw... best are always SJ and SP types and NT and NF types....the typical 80/20 rule ;) ;D....(wiseman)(clown)


aaaannnddd our all own terrible enemy is called *inveterateness*....
I saw a lot of people absolutamente impossible for them to change only a little bit or a little habit in their lives... crazy..crazy....(scared)(scared)(mad)(dizzy)as Don Miguel Ruiz mentioned it: all about our agreements...
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, January 19, 2012, 6:54pm; Reply: 32
hello everyone.... it's me again  ;) ;D ;D(dance)(ok)(smarty)

it seems I was on the wrong way for integration ??) ;)... I justamente made another approach and Dr. D. seems to be right for the explorers...we really seem to have more tendencies to be extravert... btw I always scored on teutonic tests no 5.... once it was intp and next intj for about 6 or 7 years and now  :o :o :B ;D what a surprise... but yup this description fits a bit better ..... 8)

I became a numer ONE in the enneagram... 1/9...wohooo ENTP newborn..... no more swiftings ??)  ;) ;D ;D
Posted by: zenphoenix, Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 5:57am; Reply: 33
Quoted from SBGGJRP
zenphoenix, you are right....and I am the one who was confused. Both of them are a little taller than average. Both have long, narrow heads. Both are high energytypes that can go all day and seldom get tired. One, however, is very fine-boned and slender---and her energy is more the nervous type. The other, very large-boned sister is very well-padded and muscular (not chubby, just big) and has long-term sustained focused energy rather than nervous energy. The slender sister is a medical clerk and the bigger sister has her own catering business. Her ring-fingers are shorter than her index fingers, from what I can tell. The slender sister is more of a conventionl thinker. The big-boned sister is kind of wierd and off-beat.

Both are O-. Both have legs that are longer than torso. Both have legs with longer thighs than calves.
For me, it's just a guess what their types are, because they will not submit to any in depth measuring and testing.

Based on this info what genotypes do they sound like?



wellll... the bigger-boned and padded looking sister is probably a gatherer. That is a common description of gathers - that they look "padded" even when a normal, healthy weight. I always think of Russell Crowe or Elvis when he was young... excellent examples of normal weight but padded looking. My niece is a gather, and she's an athelete,  normal healthy weight, strong, but she looks padded, especially around her joints. You'd think with all running hse does she'd look supa-lean, but she doesn't.

the slender, fine boned, high/nervous energy sister... my guess would be hunter. My stepson is a hunter, and this describes him exactly. He's slender, and lean and lanky and just doesn't stop!!! Go go go, and if the energy isn't channeled properly, he gets weird and wired and twitchy.

That said, there is a possibility for either sister to be an explorer. If one or both have sensitivities to environmental stuff, or chemicals, or can't handle caffeine, or seems sort of hypochondriactish... explorer could be a possibility.
Posted by: SBGGJRP, Thursday, January 26, 2012, 2:55pm; Reply: 34
I just tried a search of this and got no results, but since it is related to what you said, zenphoenix, I will just mention it here.
My older sister could be a Gatherer---are there mixed genotypes? Or is each person strictly one genotype?
You mentioned that your niece is an athlete---I assume muscular. But the padding is a big clue that she is a Gatherer. Both my sisters and myself develop big muscles rather easily for females. That would have little bearing, then on genotype? Maybe this tendency toward muscularity is an unrelated genetic thing? It would not indicate a mixed genotype?
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