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Posted by: Momotaro, Sunday, October 9, 2011, 9:12am
I seem to have perhaps possibly a virus(?) in me that every so often when my immune system is down, I get this really bad cough.  It's the kind of cough that I absolutely cannot suppress. The more I try, the more my face gets blue and the cough forces itself out.  So I am coughing all day long and it does not sound pretty at all.  It always lasts for a minimum of 2 weeks.  Even if I take cough medicine from the doctor, it helps but only a little bit.  The cough is still very much there.  

Now if it were just me, I would bear it every time.  But now I think I passed along whatever virus or germ it is to my toddler.  It is heartbreaking to see him coughing so badly.  It is a worse feeling to know he will be subject to this kind of cough too every time his immune system gets low.  For him, it wakes him up at intervals throughout the night.  And for him to have to have this cough for 2 weeks is a lot for a child to handle.  It makes me feel so sad for him.

Has anyone ever had this kind of cough or known anyone who has had it?  I only know of me, a family member of mine, and now my toddler who coughs like this when we get it.  When I hear others who are sick and coughing, theirs does not sound quite as bad as ours, so it makes me wonder if I will ever be able to figure out what kind of germ this is and/or how to get rid of it so that we are not subject to this every time in the future.  Or to strengthen our throats so that we will be able to resist this germ better.

When I went to the doctor here in Japan, they couldn't tell me what kind of germ it was.  When I was living back home, I unfortunately don't recall that I went to the doctor to ask, and so now I won't really be able to (at least for a long while).
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, October 9, 2011, 5:50pm; Reply: 1
What ever it is you need to cut out sugar of any kind in the throat area, even a children's cough medicine will have sugar in it.

cut out inflammatory foods like potato, tomato, wheat, dairy.

include a sensible amount of water, with a tiny amount of sea salt little and often.

if it sounds like whooping cough then i found a tiny amount of hydrogen peroxide sprayed 3 % or less for the child, and even a little in the ear only one drop. very careful !! try on your self first

be close to the child at all times, keep room well aired but not too hot or cold.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, October 9, 2011, 5:53pm; Reply: 2
you can only strengthen your throat by increasing the strength of your immune system.

which means to get healthy, increase vits and minerals and cut out processed foods and sugar.
Posted by: passionprincess, Sunday, October 9, 2011, 5:58pm; Reply: 3
I had cough variant asthma since I was about 11 or so. The doctors gave me cough syrup year-round until a doctor found that it was asthma. I would get feverish and develop bronchitis after coughing for a good week or so.

I had symptoms year-round so people thought I always had a cold I could not shake off.

You might want to get tested for cough-variant asthma. This form of asthma does not have standard wheezing so it is more difficult to detect.

My symptoms pretty much disappeared since I went 100% compliant on my GTD.

Good luck and good health!
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, October 9, 2011, 6:04pm; Reply: 4
If this happens every single time you get sick, then it's probably your immune system, not the particular strain of virus or bacteria causing the cough. I could probably catch the exact same germ you have and not even get sick, or cough a little for for a day or two.

What you need to do is strengthen your immune system and your son's immune system, and not worry so much about the specific germs you might be catching. Since your son is still nursing, you can take various supplements and he'll get them indirectly, either as remnants in the milk, or he'll benefit from your improved immunity and more antibodies in the milk. Either way, taking care of yourself will make all 3 of you healthier.

Raw garlic is an excellent antibiotic, anti-fungal, and anti-viral. Whatever's making you sick, if you eat raw garlic, it will help kill the germs that are making you sick. Mix it into your foods, or cut up a clove of garlic into small pieces and swallow like pills. This is too rough for a toddler's tummy, but a good choice for you. I assume raw garlic is readily available in Japan?

Have you had any of your vitamin D levels checked recently? Low vitamin D levels can lead to lowered immunity. If you're not able to get your D levels tested, it's smart to supplement yourself, if not all 3 of you. Vitamin A levels are similarly related to low immunity, and illnesses can use up a lot of vitamin A. If you haven't been able to tolerate many orange or yellow vegetables, you may be low in vitamin A. Cod liver oil is high in vitamins A and D and may be a good choice for supplementing with. However, most people need a higher ratio of vitamin D to vitamin A than is found in CLO; I'd reccomend the cod liver oil plus a separate D supplement.

Elderberry is another supplement that's good at fighting respiratory viruses. Ideally, find a source that doesn't add sugar to it, but if all you can find locally is elderberry syrup with sugar added, it will probably still help your son. I know it helps mine.
Posted by: Beachgirl, Sunday, October 9, 2011, 6:34pm; Reply: 5
My vote is for asthma as well.  Like PP, I also get the coughing fits with my asthma & not so much wheezing.  I'm recovering from an upper resp. infection & ended up have to take steroids (Prednisone) to stop the inflammatory coughing.  Coughing tends to get worse at night with this type of asthma.  If you do find out it's asthma, you'll know what to expect anytime you come down with an upper respiratory infection...  Also, cough meds are not much help for suppressing asthmatic coughs.  Get to the doctor & have them check you for asthma.  Good luck, I hope you're both feeling better soon.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, October 9, 2011, 11:13pm; Reply: 6
I was diagnosed with several things years ago, asthma, enlarged heart, athletes food SAM eczema, blepharitis, calcification of the rotator cuffs, allergic rhinitis the list goes on. it's all rubbish

the are symptoms of eating the wrong food. I have none of them now unless i eat the wrong food.

sugar gives me a sore throat. dairy gives me a runny nose, etc etc....
Posted by: geminisue, Monday, October 10, 2011, 1:28am; Reply: 7
how is your heart, I had a continuous cough, since BTD no long have a cough. I had chf, heart attack and clogged arteries, when the coughing was going on, that is what made my doctor check my heart.
Posted by: ilmuller, Monday, October 10, 2011, 1:08pm; Reply: 8
HI Momotaro! I can only write what I do evedrytime my husband and me get  cough (from flu or what so ever): before going to bed rub your feet with vicvaporub or similar (Dr.MOM in Russia) (canfor and mentol) cream , put some socks and go to bed. Do it 4 or 5 days. I really do not know about children... there is more care. What I also do is gurgle with Bicarbonate of soda with luke warm water. For me it helps.... considering that I follow a natural diet for O(avoiding sugars and processed foods). Take care. Ingrid
Posted by: Lola, Monday, October 10, 2011, 3:52pm; Reply: 9
welcome Ingrid! :)
Posted by: Momotaro, Tuesday, October 11, 2011, 6:09am; Reply: 10
I looked up cough varient asthma, and it does not seem to apply to our case, but thank you for bringing that up, it's good information to know.

Before posting, I did consider if it was simply just my/our immune system.  But I guess there's a part of me thinking that maybe, since I don't know of anyone else (other than a family member of mine) that has this particular kind of cough, that it is some bug that has actually settled into our body and jumps at every opportunity when our immune system is down to flare up.  

It is a very predictable illness every time I get it.  Always lasts about 2 weeks.  Coughing all day.  Mucus.  Cannot suppress the cough for the life of me (makes social settings a nightmare!)  I don't have this year round, usually once or maybe occasionally twice a year.  Sometimes I'll be lucky and not even have it in a year.  But come to think of it, I never thought about if I get it every time I get other sicknesses, or if I can get another illness, but not have the cough.

Anyway, I guess maybe I was really hoping to identify this germ so that maybe there is something specific to kill this kind of germ that I could take.

Thanks for all the suggestions though.  I can try some of them like the raw garlic, but some others, I'm not sure I can get them where I am living.  I'm going to another doctor and will see if they can check our vitamin levels.
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