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Posted by: deblynn3, Monday, September 26, 2011, 10:03pm
butter beans are a diamond for me, but locally I'm not able to find (dry) A very nice site was posted but despite their large inventory "butter beans" aren't listed. Are they called by any other name?
Posted by: Drea, Monday, September 26, 2011, 11:17pm; Reply: 1
On this site: Cook's Thesaurus, it says that fava bean = broad bean = butter bean = Windsor bean = horse bean = English bean = fool = foul = ful = feve = faba = haba = habas. Not sure if this is correct, but go have a look. I like the website because there are pictures. :D
Posted by: deblynn3, Monday, September 26, 2011, 11:24pm; Reply: 2
Will take a look thanks, but o-boy here a kicker. Fava are an avoid for me, butter beans are diamonds.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, September 26, 2011, 11:32pm; Reply: 3
My SWAMI lists fava beans as broad beans (which are beneficial for me) and butter beans are a separate item which are neutral.  Fava beans are smaller than butter beans.

And this says that butter beans are lima beans.
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-are-butter-beans.htm

I don't think this can be right because lima beans are listed as a toxin on my SWAMI

My health food store makes a butter bean salad...They are really large white beans that sort of look
like giant lima beans.

This subject has come up before on this forum.  Not sure how to find an accurate resource to learn
the truth.

http://www.ehow.com/how_4492448_beans-lima-beans-madagascar-beans.html
Posted by: deblynn3, Monday, September 26, 2011, 11:40pm; Reply: 4
Great site Drea the pics really help--Hummm, they seem to be saying the two are one and the same. What my Grandaddy called butter beans look something like large Lima beans, but they had a "greener" taste. I cooked the large Lima's last week they did not sit well.  Adzuki are black dot and I felt great on them! No bean jokes eating them.  Well hopefully I'll get swami in couple of months and I'll get them back.
Posted by: Possum, Monday, September 26, 2011, 11:50pm; Reply: 5
Worth reading the other threads on this (or googling for ppl's responses) as there is quite a lot of debate & looks like they are different things...
Posted by: deblynn3, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 1:15am; Reply: 6
missed your post Chloe, but your description is closer to what I was raise believing.  I'll just have to keep looking.

Thanks everyone for your input. I'll keep looking

Chloe, next time your at your HFS could you see if they will give you a brand name?
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 8:30am; Reply: 7
I am somewhat confused

Cause on  my can of butterbeans (large white/yellow beans) also says limabeans
( it is UK produced)

I always assumed that the rathing for limabeans where for the whole bean pod  :-/ ehile the butterbean was just the seed.

I grow fava/broad/horsebean at that is a totally different bean

I think the whole bean department needs to be cleaned up with a more international/ scientific approach - right now it seems very US shopping based and leaves the rest of us confused.
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 8:38am; Reply: 8
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The term "butter bean" is widely utilized for a large, flat and yellow/white variety of lima bean (P. lunatus var. macrocarpus, or P. limensis[2]).

In the Southern United States the Sieva type are traditionally called butter beans, also otherwise known as the Dixie or Henderson type. In that area, lima beans and butter beans are seen as two distinct types of beans.

In the United Kingdom, "butter beans" refer to either dried beans which can be purchased to re-hydrate or the canned variety which are ready to use. In culinary use, lima beans and butter beans are distinctly different, the former being small and green, the latter large and yellow. In areas where both are considered to be lima beans, the green variety may be labeled as "baby" (and less commonly "junior") limas.

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 12:34pm; Reply: 9
It's confusing to some people in the USA as well. Deblynn, who started this thread, is in Arkansas. I'm in the same general region as Dr D, but I still got confused over cantelope/musk melon (if not for the pictures in the typebase, I would never have known that "musk melon" is the thing we always call "cantelope," nobody in local produce depts know what a musk melon is). I'm not quite sure what food listing Dr D is working with.

We definitely need some clarification about various kinds of beans, as well as the tomato/tomato juice issue.
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 2:31pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from ruthiegirl
It's confusing to some people in the USA as well. Deblynn, who started this thread, is in Arkansas. I'm in the same general region as Dr D, but I still got confused over cantelope/musk melon (if not for the pictures in the typebase, I would never have known that "musk melon" is the thing we always call "cantelope," nobody in local produce depts know what a musk melon is). I'm not quite sure what food listing Dr D is working with.

We definitely need some clarification about various kinds of beans, as well as the tomato/tomato juice issue.


We have a few Korean markets in our area that sell produce from all over the world.  A musk melon looks
different from a cantaloupe  in the fact that a common cantaloupe  has bumpy  dry netted skin..which might very well be a hybrid of the more heirloom musk melon which has a flattened netted and slightly shiny skin.

I have seen a musk melon in one particular Korean market...and it had a shiny wet looking skin and not a bumpy dry looking  one which is indicative of a common cantaloupe.  Ruthie, you're right, depending on where you live (although you and I are both in the same general area) common foods have different names.  And in my shopping experience, it's usually been the specialty markets that carry the more unusual fruits and veggies.  But then there is a catch...

The very dangerous pesticides that we have banned for use on crops in the USA winds up
being sprayed on foreign exported produce where it's still legal and imported into our
country for consumption.....and so, it's inadvertently back where we don't want it....on our table.   That's a whole other issue....We were talking about butter beans and I want to get back on topic.

But here is a discussion about this subject.
http://answerpool.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/262604891/m/9541010033

The dried butter beans are in a bin in our health food store for purchase in bulk...
I'm sure when they make butter bean salad for sale in our HFS they are using these
beans (cooking them, I mean), then adding the EVOO and spices....I don't think I've seen butter beans in a can in my health food store.

Will have to check further...We have a 14 store local chain of health food stores.  Need to go
to the largest store in order to learn more Debylynn.  Will get back to you if I find anything
out. :)
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 7:14pm; Reply: 11
We have frozen butter beans here, and they're labeled as such.  From what I understand--and it's been stated above--lima beans are large (quarter-sized) and butter beans are perhaps the underdeveloped version (fat and dime-sized).  I'm not convinced they're the same bean--just different ages--but that's what I've read.  I guess we're lucky to be able to find butter beans frozen.
Posted by: deblynn3, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 7:32pm; Reply: 12
Wow, never thought on little bean could bring on such a discussion.  I hadn't thought to look in the frozen department, but think i'd have seen them as I use frozen peas, green beans, and orkas. I will take a closer look, next time.


The next large town is 35mi away and the only city in Arkansas that has a WFoods is 80 something miles. So i'm up to ordering dry (if there is such a thing) online if I new I was getting the right ones.

I'll now go check out chloe's link.  Thanks for the imput
melons lets not go there I still don't know what to eat. watermelon is a diamond I know that one. ;D
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 9:50pm; Reply: 13
I was never so happy as when I found that both butter beans and lima beans were Nomad toxins, nasty tasting things. I grew up raising butterbeans(planting, hoeing, picking, shelling). In my area we allways considered the immature, nondried, version butterbeans and called them lima beans after they matured and were dry. To confuse things even more there was a smaller variety that had a bean shaped more like that of a cow pea and we called that "butter peas".

Seriously my body must have known they were toxins as much as I detested them.
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Tuesday, September 27, 2011, 9:54pm; Reply: 14
As a follow up here is a link to an online seed catalogue.

http://rareseeds.com/vegetablesa-c/beans/lima-beans.html
Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 2:36am; Reply: 15
Well, my body doesn't think limas are toxins.  I love them and have always loved them and they don't make me feel bad and I only avoid them because Dr. D tells me to. :(
Posted by: deblynn3, Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 1:22pm; Reply: 16
Granddaddies's were out of the shell, so they must have been limas. I'll look in the precanned stuff. See what they have.

for now I'll stick to great nothern the are diamonds also,
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 9:27pm; Reply: 17
Common ground there though I actually prefer the smaller Navy beans. Of course the Navy beans are diamonds for me and the Northerns are only superfoods.
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