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Posted by: Amigalander, Sunday, August 28, 2011, 1:17am
Hi everyone!

I'm a recovering, regretful vegan.  3 years ago, I read and followed the vegan diet proposed in the China Study.  Within 6 months I developed burning elbows, then fingers.  Then my knees started to fall apart and I was in a wheelchair for 5 weeks during a 3-month period.  I'm 40, active, "healthy," and was so surprised.

I was referred to a rheumatologist who said I have unexplainable "rhupus" which is a euphamistic combo of rheumatoid arthritis and lupus, with no real name, no known cause, and no known cure.  He said it was not caused by diet -- if anything a vegan diet is helping.  He gave me sulfasalazine 500mg twice a day, which decreased the symptoms to a tolerable level.

I was obliviously living (barely) on beans, peanuts, potatoes, oranges, wheat, soy milk, corn, etc. for about 2 years.  I'm glad I survived!

A few months ago I discovered this blood type concept, and read up on lectins (  I brought chicken back in and threw wheat out and immediately felt 98% better.  Within 3 days I threw the medication in the trash, woohoo!  My stomach stopped startling the crickets at night too!  (It was growling so loud for several months.)  I even started having vivid dreams again.  I don't remember dreaming for the 2 years while vegan.

I've been O-compliant for about 3 months now, 90% better!  Emotionally so much more stable, better memory, less inflammation, a quiet stomach, and stronger muscles.  But I still have connective tissue inflammation come and go.  Two weeks ago I got my non-secretor results back, and read the funny but not so funny sticky in the Nonnie clubhouse.  Wow, I'm a total nonnie...  I adjusted my diet to nonnie O as of 2 weeks ago.

I got the SWAMI program but haven't completed it.  I don't have all the information it is asking for yet...  It seems a bit overwhelming, so I'm taking it step by step.

So that's where I am with all this.  I'm still trying to figure out how to eat...:

Recently I made quinoa with compliant ingredients... And my elbows lit on fire again.  Huh?  That's not supposed to happen is it?

Thank you for reading and for your guidance :)
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, August 28, 2011, 1:30am; Reply: 1
yes all grains make me sleepy.. no matter the kind or amount.. your body is not ready yet.. for each year of illness -one month of compliance- at least that much .. expect all but have patience..

IS it not nice to eat again??

stay high up on Super / Beneficials /no matter which diet.. for nonnies.. welcome... add water to flush.. use iodine.. read other threads about it..  reduce neutrals to near nill..

happy eating cows.. glad you are back and show all your results.. what could be better..  ;D
Posted by: deblynn3, Sunday, August 28, 2011, 1:34am; Reply: 2
Check the other complaint ingredients, spices might have fillers (often corn) so they will flow.  Could be you'll have to put the quinoa aside and come back later. After you've healed some more.

Might be detox. When you get you Swami completed you might find your answers. I'm hoping to get mine in a couple of months.

sure  other will post with more useful answers
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, August 28, 2011, 5:17am; Reply: 3
Glad you survived the China Study!! ::) Pre BTD, I also tried vegan for 2 years!! Main difference was, I ate lots of eggs as well...but developed fairly major reaction to both soy & eggs though :)

I don't recall doing well at all on quinoa when I tried it ... I had a definite inflammatory reaction to it & that was all I had eaten (a bowl for each meal - breakfast & lunch) so I could tell what it was I reacted to ??)  Loved it, so filling & satisfying but no not for me either... ::)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, August 28, 2011, 6:42am; Reply: 4
fantastic results!!!

thanks for sharing your story, very powerful!

Posted by: Lola, Sunday, August 28, 2011, 6:46am; Reply: 5
you might try soaking your quinoa overnight in acidulous water.....discard and cook

that will get rid of the phytates.......if  quinoa were a beneficial in your swami once you have completed it.
Posted by: gardengirl, Sunday, August 28, 2011, 10:10am; Reply: 6
I have Psoriatic Arthritis, which also mimics RA, without the RA Factor so it is a guess diagnosis on the Rheumatologists part. Mine sounds like yours with how quickly it became so debilitating. I was on Sulfasalizine back in April and found my body reacted to it - lots of gum bleeding with a bleeding nose. I went off and started looking into Naturopathy online and came across elimination diets. I started with an elimination diet which still had grains like rice and quinoa. I did a sensitivity test and it also pointed out that grains don't like me and that's when I came across the blood type diet. You may want to borrow the Arthritis blood type diet book, it's interesting to look at. Another neat one is, although it's not a BTD book but a gut book is Breaking the Vicious Cycle as there are quite a few recipes geared to the O type, it is helping me a lot and keeping me motivated to keep those grains way down. I am lucky as my Rheumatologist gave his full support for the diet as he saw how much it is helping me although I don't think he would refer it to anyone. Aren't you so happy to feel so much better without meds and now, no monthly bloodtests to make sure it's not damaging you. Even though the BTD diet is good, you are probably like me and very sensitive but you will learn what doesn't work for you. I am very out of touch with my body :( so it is taking me longer but it is still working great. I hope you post how SWAMI works out for you as I am still contemplating it.
And, ha ha Possum, "put down the grains and walk away".
Posted by: balletomane, Sunday, August 28, 2011, 10:54am; Reply: 7

I'm so glad to hear about your positive results! I'm going to share your testimonial with a friend of mine, who is an O and suffering from RA. She told me she has been following a vegan diet for years. She could not understand why she is not feeling well. Yours is an excellent example.

I also tried eating vegan for half a year before switching to the BTD. In fact I read some of the China Study too, but that was after I switched to BTD and I immediately saw some flaws in it. Veganism made me very sick. I had acid reflux and was extremely lethargic/lack energy, always cold and hungry. As soon as I started introducing good-quality red meat to my diet, I felt 100% better and my acid reflux was cured.
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, August 28, 2011, 4:15pm; Reply: 8
:o :o :-/ ooh mann, nice that you're still with us ;) ;D....a very warm welcome to our new 0-nonnie member :D....(clap)(smarty)(ok)(dance)(cool) as I once mentioned... the 80/20% rule.... nonnies make the world go around..... ;) ;D(whistle)
Posted by: Tom Martens, Monday, August 29, 2011, 3:45am; Reply: 9

You are still healing from that "V" word diet.

You are an individual - and finding out you react to "beneficial" or "neutral" foods is going to happen.  It is the rule more than the exception. :)
Posted by: Possum, Monday, August 29, 2011, 3:56am; Reply: 10
Quoted from Lola
you might try soaking your quinoa overnight in acidulous water.....discard and cook

that will get rid of the phytates.......if  quinoa were a beneficial in your swami once you have completed it.
Good point Lola!! I did misread it as "ridiculous" water though... :D What is acidulous water? :-/

Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 3:11am; Reply: 11
water with lemon juice added to it :)
Posted by: Bekki Shining Bearheart, Monday, December 10, 2012, 6:18pm; Reply: 12
I can so relate to this! Was never vegan, but vegetarian for 8 years, it wasn't untill I discovered the blood type diet 16 years ago that I realized the arthritis I was developing was coming from the wheat I was eating. That was around the time all of the wheat gluten based protein foods were coming out and I was eating a lot of them.

So grateful to have my life back, and not be in pain. Especially when I see friends and family limited in what they can do because of being in pain. Been there, done that, never again!!! I want to be able to do everything I do, and feel great doing it, for as long as I'm alive... and that might be till I'm 100, given what I know about my family and about this way of eating  ;)
Posted by: snazzyshazz, Tuesday, December 11, 2012, 12:00am; Reply: 13
I ate those same foods as you Amigalander but as a vegetarian, not a vegan. I was amazed at the difference when I started on the BTD diet - and that was before I found out I was a nonnie. The arthritis issues will flare up as soon as I eat a few servings of potatoes - especially in my knees. No potatoes - no joint issues whatsoever.

I have Swami now. It has helped enormously. But there are a few beneficials that I just can't eat, as the others have said.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, December 11, 2012, 12:46pm; Reply: 14
I'm glad you had such immediate positive results! Not everybody recovers so drastically, and you may find that healing from this point forward is a much slower process.

I don't know what happened with the quinoa. You might be allergic to it. You might have reacted badly to something else in the meal (such as flavorings in the cooked grain.) It might have been so healing for you that it stimulated new symptoms.

In any case, the thing to do is avoid quinoa for a while (unless you can identify a corn-based flavoring in the particular quinoa you ate.) In a few months, after you've done some more healing, try again with a small amount and see if you tolerate it any better.
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