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Posted by: ChuChuTrick, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 6:19am
So, I'm basically trying to figure out when or why Nonnie traits began to show themselves, or if they were simply there from the start or if they never existed at all for some Nonnies.

As of right now I display zero of the common traits that have been illustrated through the forums...in fact I seem to be quite the opposite in most aspects...I had my first and only cavity at 21, and I'm more suspect that the dentist was saving for a new car rather than looking out for my health and well being (And I was military at the time...so he could charge whatever he felt like...) And I don't in any way take exceptional care of my teeth...My allergies are non existent, however, I did have minor allergies to cats while younger. I have no obvious sensitivities to any foods or chemicals now...or when I was working as engineer on a military ship (I probably bled diesel and cried lube oil during the first 3 years of service). The only physical notion that anything could be wrong is that I have mild/severe cystic acne, but it has been with me for the last 11 years, and finally, acne doesn't seem to be a common Nonnie trait.

I'll give the one example I have from my own household, My mom, also a O non-secretor, Was almost exactly the same until 37, during a house remodel she developed some sort of major neurological problem (Misdiagnosed, and then never diagnosed) it was diagnosed as MS do the stress and age, however, there were no lesions to support it, so she moved to a Naturopathic Doctor and they decided it was some sort of environmental sensitivity that they never identified...today she is healthy, with no lingering problems, but after that episode her health did a 180, what was down became up, left became right...so on so forth...and she now displays "text book" Nonnie traits...including allergies to almost every modern medicine, unique reactions to certain foods, and an unusual knack at perplexing her doctor.

I've done the saliva secretor test twice, and my mother once, my father passed before we stumbled onto the BTD..so I couldn't tell you his secretor status.

Just curious to see if there is a common age or if each Nonnie is true to their nature and is different from the rest.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 6:24am; Reply: 1
when did your mom start to eat right?
Posted by: ChuChuTrick, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 6:49am; Reply: 2
Life long thing, Naturopathic medicine nutrition and sports run in our family, stemming from my mother's side.

**Only reason that a traditional doctor was consulted first for her issues, was as I understand, it was closer to an emergency than a day to day problem.
Posted by: Patty H, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 2:16pm; Reply: 3
Savant, I had terrible teeth all my life.  I have a mouth full of filling, crowns, bridges, etc.  

However, that is the only real trait I display of the typical traits associated with nonnies.  I have no digestive issues at all.  I always used to joke that I have a cast-iron stomach and can eat anything.  Certain raw onions bother my stomach and too much garlic, but that is about it.  I can eat some onions raw and I use garlic all the time, just not too much.

I do have a very strong sense of smell, which is sometimes associated with nonnies.  I don't love the smell of most perfumes or aftershave, but I don't think that trait is exclusive to nonnies.

However, what is going on inside my body may be different.  My blood tests were not go great this past September.  I have extremely serious heart disease in my family and just prior to my 53rd birthday, my blood pressure went up and my C Reactive Protein was elevated to the "high risk" category for heart disease.  However, that was the first time I had it tested.  It was those test results that brought me to the BTD/GTD.

It sounds like you have been eating right for your type, with your mom, for a very long time, so maybe the traits of being a nonnie will be less of an issue for you, since you have been feeding your body with the right foods for so long.
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 3:33pm; Reply: 4
You are fortunate to know about this diet at your age. It's much easier to prevent damage than it is to correct it. At least that's been my experience.  :)
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 3:49pm; Reply: 5
age - for teeth has something to be added.. younger people have a better chance..

allergies is not the issue feeling crapy is.. like stomach issues, and rashes, sleep issues and other such things when I ate wrong foods..

age will make a difference as you stay complianyt or not..

as for mom, well if her immuninty was low to start with.. then she had more of a chance at being suseptable to illness..

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You are fortunate to know about this diet at your age. It's much easier to prevent damage than it is to correct it. At least that's been my experience.  





Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 6:13pm; Reply: 6
I'd imagine that a nonnie baby whose mother followed BTD during pregnancy and lactation, and followed the correct BT nonnie diet from weaning, could possibly NEVER display any of the "typical nonnie traits."

Savant- it's not clear how old you were when you started following BTD, but it sounds like you've been eating well (whole foods, no processed junk) your entire life. That would explain your "lack of typical nonnie health problems."
Posted by: ChuChuTrick, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 11:03pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from ruthiegirl

Savant- it's not clear how old you were when you started following BTD, but it sounds like you've been eating well (whole foods, no processed junk) your entire life. That would explain your "lack of typical nonnie health problems."


This is a correct statement in the sense that I can always remember an active pursuit of healthy foods, however, I don't believe that any specific diet plan was followed when I was growing up...and it defiantly wasn't always enforced...Not to mention that I spent 4-5 years with large quantities of whole milk and Hershey's chocolate syrup in my diet around age 5-10ish because my doctor and mom felt I was too skinny...and I was a very particular eater at that age so I had to have the chocolate...

Anyways I guess you could say I'm more curious about figuring out if most Nonnies developed Nonnie traits, or if they have been pretty constant.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, July 28, 2011, 12:08am; Reply: 8
I always had dental issues, but I did not start to suffer from "allergies" until my late 40s.  Since BTD/swami I have not had ANY seasonal allergy symptoms, and they had been getting really bad, I had been told to just accept it, and that I was lucky not to have developed them sooner.  Ha to that!  When I'm compliant I don't suffer from other issues that were beginning to plague me either (if I cheat, though, with wheat, dairy or corn, my body lets me know it).  I think some nonnies, if I'm any example, can get away with a lot for a long time if they are basically healthy.  Until it cr@ps out on you and you don't get away with it anymore.  How great that you are eating right early!
Posted by: Howard, Sunday, July 31, 2011, 12:23pm; Reply: 9
I am surprised how many younger dentists are recognizing nonnie status when checking out teeth. By younger I mean under 40. :'(

If I cheat I notice the effects immediately. I lead a stressful life through my job as a high school teacher. Once September comes around I can go towards "comfort food" fairly quickly and balloon up almost over night.
Posted by: Tom Martens, Sunday, July 31, 2011, 3:45pm; Reply: 10
I didn't have cavity issues until my late 20's, early 30's.

Being younger does have it's advantages.

The nonnie issues usually show up later in life.

Remember, we are individuals and progress/regress at our own rates.
Posted by: zenphoenix, Friday, September 9, 2011, 5:45am; Reply: 11
For me, it was very early...my whole life practically. Although some things have never manifested, while others manifested in a huge way!

i haven't any real problems with my teeth. They all grew in well (including my wisdom teeth) and i still have them all and they are all healthy. I had a couple of cavities filled when i was 12, of which both my current dentist and i suspect weren't cavities at all. The only other "problem" I've had... i cracked a couple of molars when i got a rock in some food at a restaurant. The cracks were minor and shallow, and were repaired easily and i have not had any problems since.

On the other hand... As far back as i can recall i have been sensitive to sounds and smells and distressing, chaotic sights. I have always found clothing a pain in the butt to find something that is comfortable and not itchy, too tight, too loose, irritating tags, etc. Some of my earliest memories include me being emotionally oversensitive to what was going on around me.


And as for allergies... I have always had something going on, since baby/toddler age. I have pictures of myself running about in a beekeepers hat at 18 months to keep the mosquitoes away (i reacted THAT badly to them). I reacted poorly to medications and vaccinations around 4 or 5. Lotions, soaps, creams, etc have always been a problem for me. The first 22 years of my life i could only use ivory soap.

As far as food sensitivities go, i remember being as young as 5 and having constipation and stomach pains from pork and corn. Through my late teens and early 20s, i wished that food was available in pill form so i wouldn't have to eat. I reacted that badly to most everything. To this day i still have problems with food...migraine triggers, causing sleep issues and weight issues, etc.

On the plus side, my whole life, i have rarely been sick, but i have always been clumsy and uncoordinated. Any illness i did have were pretty much exclusively bacterial in nature, viral issues have not been a problem for me. Injury and RSI's and bacterial infections and complications from these are my problems.

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