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Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 3:17pm
I am re-reading LR4YT for about the third time, and each time, I am stumped by the concept of nonnies having lower intestinal alkaline phosphatase, which makes protein and fat more difficult to break down, and the fact that Dr. D gives O non-secretors MORE meat servings than secretors but less fat servings in the book.

I do have a SWAMI, and actually I get very little red meat - only three servings per week - as opposed to fish - seven servings per week.  This seems to be in direct contradiction to LR4YT.  I only get six one tablespoon servings of fat/oil per week.

So here are my questions:

If O nonnies (and nonnies in general) have less IAP, why are they given more meat than secretors in the book?

Are all nonnies equal in their lack of IAP, or would A's have the least and O's have the most of the non-secretor population?

How does the inability to break down animal protein and animal fat impact cholesterol?

Is oil from plant sources, such as olive oil, easier to break down or does the lack of IAP make it difficult to break down all fats, regardless of the source?  What about ghee?

I am really focused on lowering my cholesterol, as my cardiologist wants to put me on a statin, so this is very important to me.


Posted by: C_Sharp, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 4:39pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from Patty H


So here are my questions:

If O nonnies (and nonnies in general) have less IAP, why are they given more meat than secretors in the book?

IAP is not the only factor in meat recommendations.
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Are all nonnies equal in their lack of IAP, or would A's have the least and O's have the most of the non-secretor population?


I am currently transitioning from one office to another office, I do not have access to all my resources. So do not use my percentages!!   They are made up.

As I recall nonsecretors have like 23% percent of the IAP of secretors.

But Os start with a much higher level of IAP than people with type A.
So if type Os with five?? times the level of IAP,  After losing about 77%
for being a non-secretor, they might have an IP level similar
to an A secretor.

Type As start with little IAP and if a nonsecretors loses 77%,
they are going to have very low low IAP levels.



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I am really focused on lowering my cholesterol, as my cardiologist wants to put me on a statin, so this is very important to me.



The cholesterol numbers may be what is important to your cardiologist, but there are other measures that may be more predictive of whether you will have a heart attack.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 4:53pm; Reply: 2
also cholesterol levels in Os may be higher than in As.....and I believe your Dr
is seeing those levels through a one size fit all lens

write down your levels here.....we ll help you determine if actually high, considering your physiology or in fact NOT
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 4:59pm; Reply: 3
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IAP is not the only factor in meat recommendations.


But it must be factored in, yes?  Does eating meat help stimulate IAP production, even in non-secretors?

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As I recall nonsecretors have like 23% percent of the IAP of secretors.

But Os start with a much higher level of IAP than people with type A.
So if type Os with five?? times the level of IAP,  After losing about 77%
for being a non-secretor, they might have an IP level similar
to an A secretor.


Interesting!  Could this be why my SWAMI gives me more than double the servings of fish per week over meat and double the amount of fish per week over poultry?  Because my digestive system is more like that of an A?

Do you think the heart disease in my family drives the large amount of fish I am given and the small amount of fat/oil?  I also assume that fish is easier to digest than red meat, yes?

I would love to hear from other O nonnies who have heart disease in their family and are on SWAMI.  I seem to be the only one I know on this forum who gets so much more fish.  Not that I mind - I love fish!

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The cholesterol numbers may be what is important to your cardiologist, but there are other measures that may be more predictive of whether you will have a heart attack.


I agree!  There are other things they are tracking, such as my C-Reactive Protein, blood sugar, blood pressure & triglycerides.  Are there other things you recommend I track?  I have another comprehensive set of blood tests scheduled for September and my PCP is very willing to work with me on these things.
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 5:13pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from Lola
also cholesterol levels in Os may be higher than in As.....and I believe your Dr
is seeing those levels through a one size fit all lens

write down your levels here.....we ll help you determine if actually high, considering your physiology or in fact NOT


Here are the last six years - all fasting:

3/31/2011
Total Cholesterol = 258
HDL = 68
LDL = 174
TG = 82

GLU = 94
CRP Cardio = 2.7
SGPT (ALT) = 34

1/24/2011
Total Cholesterol = 224
HDL = 71
LDL = 143
TG = 82

CRP Cardio = 1.1

9/22/2010
Total Cholesterol - 225
HDL = 62
LDL = 143
TG = 102

GLU = 98
CRP Cardio = 3.9
SGPT (ALT) = 17

11/7/2006
Total Cholesterol = 255
HDL = 68
LDL = 169
TG = 88

GLU = 88
SGPT (ALT) = 12

According to Dr. D's book on cardiac disease, he likes O's to have a total cholesterol of 225 or less.  He does not mention a benchmark for LDL.
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 6:20pm; Reply: 5
Wow good thread Patty...I didn't know this about O non secretors, but I can tell you my digestion is not very good. I so wish I could be a vegetarian. My cholesterol numbers are high as well. Lola can you help interpret mine. I only eat SF's and/or diamonds...honey is the only neutral, and only a tsp a day. NO avoids. These results were in Sept. 2010. In May of 2010 my cholesterol was 303.

I was on a mostly Paleo diet which included 50gms of protein a day, low carbs, non sweet fruits and veggies, so while I use SWAMI now, I was mostly eating foods that are on my list, it's just that now I know which are ok and which are not.

Cholesterol = 285
Triglycerides = 195
HDL = 96
LDL = 150

Thanks :)
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 6:59pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from 14428
Wow good thread Patty...I didn't know this about O non secretors, but I can tell you my digestion is not very good. I so wish I could be a vegetarian. My cholesterol numbers are high as well. Lola can you help interpret mine. I only eat SF's and/or diamonds...honey is the only neutral, and only a tsp a day. NO avoids. These results were in Sept. 2010. In May of 2010 my cholesterol was 303.

I was on a mostly Paleo diet which included 50gms of protein a day, low carbs, non sweet fruits and veggies, so while I use SWAMI now, I was mostly eating foods that are on my list, it's just that now I know which are ok and which are not.

Cholesterol = 285
Triglycerides = 195
HDL = 96
LDL = 150

Thanks :)


Linda, it is really great to see your numbers are going down.  :D Do you have heart disease in your family?  Can you tell me how many servings of meat, poultry and fish you get per week, broken down by each category per SWAMI?  How many servings of fat/oil per week?  I am really curious as to why I am a Hunter who gets mostly fish.   :o
Posted by: C_Sharp, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 7:05pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Patty H

I do have a SWAMI, and actually I get very little red meat - only three servings per week - as opposed to fish - seven servings per week.  This seems to be in direct contradiction to LR4YT.  I only get six one tablespoon servings of fat/oil per week.


Book recommendations for Hunters:

3-5 servings red meat
4 servings Fish
3-9 tablespoons fat

Numbers which are fairly similar to yours.
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 7:19pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from C_Sharp


Book recommendations for Hunters:

3-5 servings red meat
4 servings Fish
3-9 tablespoons fat

Numbers which are fairly similar to yours.


Except I get seven servings of fish and only three of red meat.  I seem to be the only Hunter I know who is supposed to eat mostly fish.  I'm just curious and wondering if other Hunters get more fish than meat.  

Also, I was referring to LR4YT.  O Caucasian non-secretors get 7-12 servings of red meat per week and 4-5 serving of fish per week, while Caucasian secretors get 6-9 servings of red meat per week and 3-5 serving of fish per week.

My SWAMI is opposite LR4YT - and again I am wondering if the heart disease in my family drives the outcome.
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 7:55pm; Reply: 9
Patty I was a Hunter until I changed my caffeine to sensitive and then I became an Explorer. Here are the meats portions for both:
Hunter
red meat 4 x a week
Poultry 3 x a week
Fish 6 x a week

Explorer
red meat 3 x a week
Poultry 4 x a week
fish 4 x a week

Cholesterol I've been struggling with for 20+ years...will never get on statins. Yes my mother has heart disease and my grandfather died from heart disease. I think you and I should be hitting the red wine... ;D ;D
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 8:07pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from 14428
Patty I was a Hunter until I changed my caffeine to sensitive and then I became an Explorer. Here are the meats portions for both:
Hunter
red meat 4 x a week
Poultry 3 x a week
Fish 6 x a week

Explorer
red meat 3 x a week
Poultry 4 x a week
fish 4 x a week

Cholesterol I've been struggling with for 20+ years...will never get on statins. Yes my mother has heart disease and my grandfather died from heart disease. I think you and I should be hitting the red wine... ;D ;D


I assume you checked off Family Heart Disease in your SWAMI?  I also assume that your grandfather was your mother's father or do you have heart disease on both sides?

I don't plan on taking a statin either.  I may consider red yeast rice at some point.  My cardiologist is really pushing a statin.  I am also curious about a Hunter who eats mostly fish.  I see you had more fish too as a Hunter with family heart disease.   :o

And YES!!!  I hit the red wine - two glasses per day according to my cardiologist!!!  Funny, too, it is a genoharmonic combination with all but one of my genoharmonic foods, which is Sesame Oil, so who cares!  ;D  ;D  I DO love my SWAMI.   ;D
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 8:25pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Patty H


I assume you checked off Family Heart Disease in your SWAMI?  I also assume that your grandfather was your mother's father or do you have heart disease on both sides?

I don't plan on taking a statin either.  I may consider red yeast rice at some point.  My cardiologist is really pushing a statin.  I am also curious about a Hunter who eats mostly fish.  I see you had more fish too as a Hunter with family heart disease.   :o

And YES!!!  I hit the red wine - two glasses per day according to my cardiologist!!!  Funny, too, it is a genoharmonic combination with all but one of my genoharmonic foods, which is Sesame Oil, so who cares!  ;D  ;D  I DO love my SWAMI.   ;D


;D ;D on the wine!! One good thing about being a non-secretor!! Yes my mother's father, and I checked heart disease on my Swami. As an Explorer I only get 4 servings of fish, even though my family hx is the same. I think that's because of the toxins/contaminants in fish these days.. :( Ok going for a bit of the red...that's sure to make me feel better one way or the other... ;)
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 8:26pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from 14428


;D ;D on the wine!! One good thing about being a non-secretor!! Yes my mother's father, and I checked heart disease on my Swami. As an Explorer I only get 4 servings of fish, even though my family hx is the same. I think that's because of the toxins/contaminants in fish these days.. :( Ok going for a bit of the red...that's sure to make me feel better one way or the other... ;)


Just do it!!!  ;D :P
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, July 26, 2011, 8:31pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from 14428


;D ;D on the wine!! One good thing about being a non-secretor!! Yes my mother's father, and I checked heart disease on my Swami. As an Explorer I only get 4 servings of fish, even though my family hx is the same. I think that's because of the toxins/contaminants in fish these days.. :( Ok going for a bit of the red...that's sure to make me feel better one way or the other... ;)


Dr. Nash is testing me for heavy metals, at my request, because I eat so much fish and have been a big fish eater my whole life.  I have to wait until next week, however, because you cannot eat fish for a week before the testing.  :-/ I am not looking forward to a week without fish  :'(
Posted by: O in Virginia, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 2:29am; Reply: 14
3x week red meat
3x week poultry
4x week fish
6x week eggs

I often eat more than those recommended frequencies, but not all at once in the same week.  Some weeks I eat more fish, some weeks more red meat.  It depends how I feel, what my body seems to want.  Since starting BTD/swami, I never have indigestion or heartburn, which was once an almost chronic condition for me.  I digest (compliant) animal protein and fats just fine, apparently, despite my non-secretor status.  Wheat, corn, oats, and dairy are what I have to stay away from.
Posted by: Patty H, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 1:15pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from O in Virginia
3x week red meat
3x week poultry
4x week fish
6x week eggs

I often eat more than those recommended frequencies, but not all at once in the same week.  Some weeks I eat more fish, some weeks more red meat.  It depends how I feel, what my body seems to want.  Since starting BTD/swami, I never have indigestion or heartburn, which was once an almost chronic condition for me.  I digest (compliant) animal protein and fats just fine, apparently, despite my non-secretor status.  Wheat, corn, oats, and dairy are what I have to stay away from.


Interesting - the Explorer diet seems to be more balanced with the different type of protein servings, whereas the Hunters get more fish.  I did not expect Hunters to have more fish, but when Linda was a hunter, her protein servings were similar to mine.  Now that she is an Explorer, hers are the same as yours.

Doesn't it seem strange that Hunters get more fish?  I don't think that is the perception of a lot of us on the forum.  I assumed I was unusual and that it must have been my family history of heart disease.
Posted by: Jane, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 3:40pm; Reply: 16
Linda,
I think your high cholesterol readings are skewed by the extremely high good cholesterol.  150 is high for the LDL but it's not that bad I don't think and 96 HDL is spectacular.
Jane
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 4:02pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Jane
Linda,
I think your high cholesterol readings are skewed by the extremely high good cholesterol.  150 is high for the LDL but it's not that bad I don't think and 96 HDL is spectacular.
Jane


hah...now there's some good news!! ;D My doctor was pretty excited about that HDL as well... :) Thanks, Jane  ;D
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 4:05pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Patty H
There are other things they are tracking, such as my C-Reactive Protein, blood sugar, blood pressure & triglycerides.  Are there other things you recommend I track?  




Since they are already tracking crp I would probably just go with that.

A few other things that are sometimes done:

measuring the size and density of LDL particles
measuring Apo-B levels
Measuring coronary calcium artery calcium score

I do not know that any of these are worth the cost.

As far as prevention, it may well be that exercise would be more effective than additional tests.
Posted by: balletomane, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 4:42pm; Reply: 19
Patty H, you're not alone. I am an O Nonnie Hunter and I get exactly the same types of animal protein servings as you do.

Yes, heart disease does run in my mother's side of the family. But her side has more Type B's while I get my blood type from my dad. Don't know if that makes any difference but anyway, I get 7 servings of fish a week.
Posted by: Patty H, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 5:44pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from C_Sharp




Since they are already tracking crp I would probably just go with that.

A few other things that are sometimes done:

measuring the size and density of LDL particles
measuring Apo-B levels
Measuring coronary calcium artery calcium score

I do not know that any of these are worth the cost.

As far as prevention, it may well be that exercise would be more effective than additional tests.


Thank you, C Sharp.  I did have a coronary artery calcium scoring done and it came back with ZERO, which is amazing.  A local hospital offers the service for $50, so my doctor recommended I do it.  In the process, they found a large cyst on my lung - non-cancerous, so that worked out well, too.

I had asked about
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measuring the size and density of LDL particles
[/b] but I don't know what the test is called or where to get it done.  Does it have a name that I could tell my PCP?

Also, what is
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measuring Apo-B levels
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and does that test have a certain name?

I am exercising 5-6 days a week, running three miles and lifting light weights, doing ab stuff, etc.  My blood pressure seems much better since I started exercising, so I am hoping it impacts my cholesterol and LDL specifically.

I am very grateful for the recommendations!  Thank you!!!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 7:35pm; Reply: 21
More tests may not be what you need.

Info on APO-B test:

http://labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/apob/tab/test

LDL particle size assessment

http://www.centerforpreventivemedicine.com/04114med_messenger.pdf

http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2011-mchi/6264.html?rss-feedid=4

Alternate names particle size assessment tests:

NMR LipoProfile
LipoPrint
Berkeley HeartLab test
Vertical Auto Profile(VAP)

Posted by: Patty H, Wednesday, July 27, 2011, 7:38pm; Reply: 22
Thanks for the info, C Sharp.  If my cardiologist is still pushing a statin, then I think the particle size assessment might be a good option.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, July 28, 2011, 7:14pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Patty H


Interesting - the Explorer diet seems to be more balanced with the different type of protein servings, whereas the Hunters get more fish.  I did not expect Hunters to have more fish, but when Linda was a hunter, her protein servings were similar to mine.  Now that she is an Explorer, hers are the same as yours.

Doesn't it seem strange that Hunters get more fish?  I don't think that is the perception of a lot of us on the forum.  I assumed I was unusual and that it must have been my family history of heart disease.


That's what my SWAMI gives me.  If we're talking Genotype Diet...

Hunters...
Red meat 3-5x week
Poultry 2-4x week
Fish AT LEAST 4x week
Eggs 7-9x wek
Cheese 3x week

Explorers...
Red meat 2-3x week
Poultry 1-3x week
Fish 3x week for first 3 months, then 4x thereafter
Eggs 5-7x week
Dairy 3-5x week

I suppose Explorers would get a lot more fish if they didn't have liver issues?  Thinking about fish and toxicity.  I would imagine Hunters are encouraged to eat wild caught fish, as opposed to farmed fish.  I notice their poultry frequences are pretty low.  
Posted by: TJ, Friday, July 29, 2011, 12:06am; Reply: 24
I'm coming in late here, I know, but isn't IAP concerned with fat digestion and absorption specifically, rather than meat generally?
Posted by: Patty H, Friday, July 29, 2011, 2:23am; Reply: 25
Quoted from TJ
I'm coming in late here, I know, but isn't IAP concerned with fat digestion and absorption specifically, rather than meat generally?


TJ, I think, if I read this correctly on page 56 of LR4YT, Dr. D states that because O secretors have the highest levels of IAP, they are able to digest red meat.  IAP, according to Dr. D, "aids in the digestion of animal protein and fat."

I think my O nonnie diet has more servings of fish than red meat because non-secretors in general have about 75% (+/-) less IAP than secretors, so my digestive system is more like that of an A secretor.  Does that make sense?  C Sharp helped me with this analysis.

I posted a poll for O non-secretors who use SWAMI.  I have not had a lot of responses, but is it interesting that the last time I checked the poll, most of the O nonnies get more fish.

This really intrigues me because O's are generally associated as being meat eaters, but in fact, if we FOLLOW our SWAMI's, we are fish eaters with meat and poultry thrown in.  I follow my SWAMI because of the heart disease in my family and the fact that I really like fish, being from New England!   ;D
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, August 1, 2011, 5:20pm; Reply: 26
Dr. D's monthly newsletter just came out and low and behold, he wrote about IAP.  Unfortunately, he did not discuss this enzyme as it relates to nonnies.

What struck me in the newsletter is that he said that A's should eat a low-fat, Mediterranean Diet.  Does this mean that O nonnies, who have about the same amount of IAP as A's, should follow a similar diet, minus the wheat of course?

When he refers to a Mediterranean Diet, what exactly does he mean?
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, August 1, 2011, 5:49pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Patty H
Dr. D's monthly newsletter just came out and low and behold, he wrote about IAP.  Unfortunately, he did not discuss this enzyme as it relates to nonnies.


He does some of that, here:

http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Intestinal_Alkaline_Phosphatase_(IAP)

Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, August 1, 2011, 6:00pm; Reply: 28
Some key component of "Mediterranean Diets"

Plenty of exercise if you want to be heart healthy
Emphsize plant-based foods, such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, legumes and nuts
Use olive oil for fat
Use herbs and spices instead of just salt to flavor foods
Limit red meat to no more than a few times a month
Emphsize fish
Some poultry is okay too
Drink red wine in moderation
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, August 1, 2011, 7:26pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from C_Sharp
Some key component of "Mediterranean Diets"

Plenty of exercise if you want to be heart healthy
Emphsize plant-based foods, such as fruits and vegetables, whole grains, legumes and nuts
Use olive oil for fat
Use herbs and spices instead of just salt to flavor foods
Limit red meat to no more than a few times a month
Emphsize fish
Some poultry is okay to
Drink red wine in moderation


Thank you, C Sharp.  My SWAMI allows me to have red meat three times a week, so that is certainly different.  I do, however, eat a lot of fish and veggies, some fruit, some poulty & red meat, rice only, some nuts and no legumes.  I drink red wine as well.

My big question is FAT.  My SWAMI allows only one tablespoon of fat, six times a week.  That is fairly limiting, so I do use more olive oil, walnut oil, sesame oil and ghee than the recommended amount in my SWAMI.  What I am wondering is how much is too much?
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, August 1, 2011, 8:26pm; Reply: 30
Just to be clear, I do not think that Dr. D. is recommending you do less red meat than SWAMI, the suggestion I posted above are common recommendation for "Mediterranean Diets" (I took them from Mayo clinic and other websites that discuss "Mediterranean Diets".


Personally on SWAMI, if SWAMI says 0-3 for red meat, I try to keep red meat close to zero since red meat gives me headaches.

I use the fat that is necessary to prepare recipes (I may cut it some but not to zero). This always exceeds the guidelines, so I almost never do anything that would add fat to a dish (such as use salad dressings, toppings on vegetables, spreads ...) .

Posted by: Patty H, Monday, August 1, 2011, 8:51pm; Reply: 31
Thanks, C Sharp, I do understand that I am allowed the red meat and that you were just posting the Mediterranean Diet.  I was just wondering how close it is to my SWAMI.

I am going to have to start looking more closely at my fat intake.  I get my cholesterol checked in September, so I am thinking that I should keep doing what I am doing for now.  If, after seeing my numbers, I need to make some changes, maybe I will need to cut my fat.  I only eat twice a day and like you, fat is required in some cooking.  I do use walnut oil on salads but don't really use a lot of oil/fat in general.  I think I should be ok.  
Posted by: O in Virginia, Wednesday, September 28, 2011, 4:36pm; Reply: 32
Type O Non-secretor Explorer here.

July 2010...

Total Cholesterol 220
HDL 68
LDL 127
Triglycerides 126

August 2011 (approx. one year on btd/swami)...

Total Cholesterol 210
HDL 83
LDL 111
Triglycerides 81

That is an improvement in one year.  Maybe not greatly dramatic, but a definite improvement.  I eat plenty of fats and animal protein, and fresh vegetables and fruits, also nuts and dried fruits.  Rice is pretty much my staple starch, but I keep the portions limited, not as small as Swami recommends, but I don't eat huge amounts of it.  My biggest problem is sugar.  That monkey is still on my back.  It appears that lowering fats did NOT improve my blood lipid numbers, lowering grains did.  Also, the quality of fats I consume are improved, as I don't eat prepackaged or frozen foods anymore so I don't eat transfats and/or other weird pseudo-foods.

I used to suffer from acid indigestion almost every day of my life before I started BTD.  I lived on Tums.  Now, I never have acid indigestion.  Again, that was wheat and other starchy grains affecting my digestion, not fats.  I very rarely feel indigestion anymore, and when I do it usually because I have been non-compliant.   :B  Even though I am a nonnie, I apparently have enough IAP to process the animal protein and fats I consume.  My blood lipid numbers would probably improve further if I ate less and exercised more.  If I exercised more, however, I would be hungrier and eat more.  Eating less doesn't seem to work for me.   :-/
Posted by: Vista, Thursday, September 29, 2011, 12:12pm; Reply: 33
I have a question about IAP levels and being a secretor but Lewis negative. I am tested at 23andMe as a secretor but my blood test shows I am Lewis(a-b-).

Since I am LDN I should consider myself a non-secretor when following the blood type diet but since I am also a secretor I wonder if that means that I have higher levels of IAP than non-secretors? I was thinking that being LDN also meant that I have lower levels of IAP just as non-secretors.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, September 29, 2011, 1:33pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from Vista
I have a question about IAP levels and being a secretor but Lewis negative. I am tested at 23andMe as a secretor but my blood test shows I am Lewis(a-b-).

Since I am LDN I should consider myself a non-secretor when following the blood type diet but since I am also a secretor I wonder if that means that I have higher levels of IAP than non-secretors? I was thinking that being LDN also meant that I have lower levels of IAP just as non-secretors.


That is an interesting question.  I don't know the answer, but I hope someone here can point you in the right direction (Lola?).
Posted by: Patty H, Thursday, September 29, 2011, 5:42pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from Vista
I have a question about IAP levels and being a secretor but Lewis negative. I am tested at 23andMe as a secretor but my blood test shows I am Lewis(a-b-).

Since I am LDN I should consider myself a non-secretor when following the blood type diet but since I am also a secretor I wonder if that means that I have higher levels of IAP than non-secretors? I was thinking that being LDN also meant that I have lower levels of IAP just as non-secretors.


Lola is also LDN.  Maybe you can PM her for information  ;)
Posted by: Patty H, Thursday, September 29, 2011, 5:44pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from O in Virginia
Type O Non-secretor Explorer here.

July 2010...

Total Cholesterol 220
HDL 68
LDL 127
Triglycerides 126

August 2011 (approx. one year on btd/swami)...

Total Cholesterol 210
HDL 83
LDL 111
Triglycerides 81

That is an improvement in one year.  Maybe not greatly dramatic, but a definite improvement.  I eat plenty of fats and animal protein, and fresh vegetables and fruits, also nuts and dried fruits.  Rice is pretty much my staple starch, but I keep the portions limited, not as small as Swami recommends, but I don't eat huge amounts of it.  My biggest problem is sugar.  That monkey is still on my back.  It appears that lowering fats did NOT improve my blood lipid numbers, lowering grains did.  Also, the quality of fats I consume are improved, as I don't eat prepackaged or frozen foods anymore so I don't eat transfats and/or other weird pseudo-foods.

I used to suffer from acid indigestion almost every day of my life before I started BTD.  I lived on Tums.  Now, I never have acid indigestion.  Again, that was wheat and other starchy grains affecting my digestion, not fats.  I very rarely feel indigestion anymore, and when I do it usually because I have been non-compliant.   :B  Even though I am a nonnie, I apparently have enough IAP to process the animal protein and fats I consume.  My blood lipid numbers would probably improve further if I ate less and exercised more.  If I exercised more, however, I would be hungrier and eat more.  Eating less doesn't seem to work for me.   :-/


Your numbers look good O in V.  Congratulations!

BTW, I exercise but don't eat more than I did before I began exercising.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, September 29, 2011, 6:43pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from Patty H


Your numbers look good O in V.  Congratulations!

BTW, I exercise but don't eat more than I did before I began exercising.


That's great!  Exercise always makes me ravenous later, especially swimming, but any exercise makes me hungry.  :)
Posted by: Patty H, Thursday, September 29, 2011, 9:06pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from C_Sharp


Can one have their IAP tested?
Posted by: Lola, Friday, September 30, 2011, 5:40am; Reply: 39
I d ask the clinic directly
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