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Posted by: kauaian, Thursday, July 21, 2011, 6:13pm
Hi BTD Family,
I need some help. First of all, I don't know how to search threads for the above topic.  Tried 2 things that did not bring up anything.  Anyhow for as long as I can remember I had bad teeth.  Had perio surgery about 5 years ago & my teeth have been doing poorly about 2 years ago. Right around the time my dentist who doesn't have any chair side manner @ all started losing staff & hygienists.  Post surgery have been doing maintenance every 3 months & keep having new hygienists because I hear he is a harsh person to work with.  Anyway since all of this started happening it seems my teeth have been declining.  I am going to brush after every meal & do the anti bacterial protocol but need advise on how to proceed.  I am also shopping around for a new dentist because I need someone more stable for my on going problems. Please PM me if you can help, I would appreciate any feedback. :-/
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 21, 2011, 6:34pm; Reply: 1
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1309552010/
Posted by: kauaian, Thursday, July 21, 2011, 6:59pm; Reply: 2
Thanks Lola, I have PM'd Joy.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, July 21, 2011, 8:22pm; Reply: 3
I went to 2 dentists.. one filled in time in slow season by makeing fullings.. and another hwo needed a new BMW..

Change dentist.. they are not sacred cows..

Then use DrD's recomendation: by mirrh in the hfs and grind it, then use it on the toothbrush..

nad I agree withe what Ruthiegirl said in another thread

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Gargling with hydrogen peroxide will kill any germs in your mouth and throat- any surface it can touch, basically. The tough part about an ear infection is that the worst of it is in a part that's hard to reach. But killing all the germs "right around the outside" of the infection will slowly get to the infection itself.


the only thing I would add use a little not a lot.. swisch as long as oxygen gets released then every 6 weeks stop and the start again.. or you get a blk tongue..  
  
Posted by: Dianne, Thursday, July 21, 2011, 9:17pm; Reply: 4
I've been using the method that Dr. D'Adamo mentioned somewhere on a thread about dissolving 2 B-12 tablets in a little water and swishing it in the mouth. I do it either when on the computer, showering, reading etc. I set the timer for 5 minutes and then spit it out. It is supposed to make the gums healthy and reduce/prevent the gums from receeding. Big improvement in my gum sensitivity as well!
Posted by: kauaian, Thursday, July 21, 2011, 11:12pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Goldie
I went to 2 dentists.. one filled in time in slow season by makeing fullings.. and another hwo needed a new BMW..

Change dentist.. they are not sacred cows..

Then use DrD's recomendation: by mirrh in the hfs and grind it, then use it on the toothbrush..

nad I agree withe what Ruthiegirl said in another thread



the only thing I would add use a little not a lot.. swisch as long as oxygen gets released then every 6 weeks stop and the start again.. or you get a blk tongue..  
  


Is that hydrogen peroxide in the bottle for cuts?  Do I dilute with water?  If so what ratio?  Also I'm afraid I got big trouble ahead, according to the dentist which never explained anything to me just spoke to the hygienist & asked me if I had any problems, I said no.  Do u have any questions?  I didn't have any because he was mainly discussing "furcation" w/ my hygienist & not addressing me & I had no idea I had a problem.  the hygienist then recommended using something called end tuft brush which I bought.  When I did research on the internet what furcation meant I found out it was bone loss due to bacteria that is hard to clean related to periodontal disease.  Pretty much dismal prognosis so now I want to find a dentist who actually gives a sh*t.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Thursday, July 21, 2011, 11:27pm; Reply: 6
I have 3 % hydrogen peroxide in a tiny spray bottle i use 4 sprays after i have cleaned my teeth every day in the morning, no black tongue though.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, July 22, 2011, 11:13pm; Reply: 7
There should be instructions right on the bottle of hydrogen peroxide you bought for cuts. It's generally sold in 3% solution, and you want 1.5% for rinsing your mouth. So you mix it half and half with water, then swish it around in your mouth for about a minute.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Friday, July 22, 2011, 11:51pm; Reply: 8
Hi Ruthie, on my instructions it says use 3 % for rinsing your mouth and or cleaning/whitening your teeth. it also says don't use tap water and to use distilled water if you are going to dilute it.

I buy food grade 35 % hydrogen peroxide and dilute it with distilled water.

I'm not saying I'm right just that that's what it says oxo
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, July 24, 2011, 2:05pm; Reply: 9
My son had problems with his teeth & gums.  He uses hydrogen peroxide all the time now.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, July 24, 2011, 5:55pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
Hi Ruthie, on my instructions it says use 3 % for rinsing your mouth and or cleaning/whitening your teeth. it also says don't use tap water and to use distilled water if you are going to dilute it.

I buy food grade 35 % hydrogen peroxide and dilute it with distilled water.

I'm not saying I'm right just that that's what it says oxo


I guess the "official rules" in the USA are different from the ones in Ireland. It does make sense that the stuff they sell over the counter is safe to use "as is" even if they reccomend diluting it further.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, July 24, 2011, 6:09pm; Reply: 11
My Info comes from

William Campbell douglass MD (Hydrogen  Peroxide, Medical Miracle)

James Paul Roguski (The truth about Food Grade Hydrogen Peroxide)

Kurt w Donsbach DC ND PhD (Oxygen, Oxygen, Oxygen)

But they all insist you make your own 3% to ensure that no additives arein there.
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, July 24, 2011, 6:27pm; Reply: 12
My tooth and gum health improved greatly when I improved my oral hygiene.  I consistently floss every evening before bed, carefully wrapping the floss around the side of each tooth and making sure to go beneath the gum line as well as all the way to the top of the tooth.  Dental tapes work more thoroughly than waxed floss.  I like the woven tapes best of all, such as Dr. Tung's.

I got rid of all commercial toothpastes and switched to Uncle Harry's tooth soap and Tooth Powder.  I alternate those with EcoDent tooth Powder.

I brush without fail, morning and night, and finish by gently brushing my tongue until it is pink and clean.  The tongue is an ideal bed for bacterial growth.  The toothbrush needs to be thoroughly cleaned, even dipped into a bit of peroxide if you have a real bacterial overgrowth.

I finish each brushing with a slosh and gargle made with 1/8 tsp sea salt and a pinch of baking soda dissolved in 1/4 cup of warm water.

I have a peroxide mouthwash, which is useful if I seem to be getting a gum inflammation, which rarely happens any more.  Also, there is a product called CloSys, which comes in toothpaste as well as mouthwash.  I learned about it from a holistic dentist.  It can save your teeth and gums if bacteria are out of control and gum inflammation has set in.  I would use it as needed and then switch to a more gentle cleanser such as those I mentioned above.

I slosh with water after eating anything!  It's no good letting food sit on the teeth and gums, and just feeding bacteria.

The H.P. mouthwash is Heritage, available in stores where I live.
http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=peroxide+mouthwash&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=1965934236060424669&sa=X&ei=BWUsTsK2FsWGsAKBleHMCw&ved=0CFAQ8wIwBA
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, July 24, 2011, 6:30pm; Reply: 13
Getting an electric toothbrush was also a benefit for me.  I got an Oral B rechargeable without all the bells and whistles.  I had to relearn a lot of things, first of all, slowing down and paying attention to make sure I got every tooth clean -- not just a quick swipe and spit.  ;)
Posted by: Dianne, Monday, July 25, 2011, 2:32am; Reply: 14
Victoria,
Thank you for this information. I have quit using toothpaste with fluoride in it a few months ago as I felt it was affecting my thyroid adversely. Noticed a big difference, small goiter gone. I will definitely look into this. I am impressed with some of the information I've come across on this site.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, July 25, 2011, 4:11pm; Reply: 15
You're welcome, Dianne.  I believe that any physical problem can be turned around and improved.  Conditions are not as localized as they first appear.  Addressing the solid, true health of the body and balancing of all the systems can have amazing results in body.  If we can consistently eat the foods that are going to really support radiant health and refrain from eating foods that are toxic, inflammatory and immune suppressing, little by little we see exciting changes.  It takes time, because it took a lot of time for our problems to develop, but it's well worth the dedication.

And in the meantime, floss, brush, slosh!  ;)
Posted by: Easy E, Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 6:55pm; Reply: 16
Flossing is very important.  I can brush and rinse with mouthwash, then floss...and stuff is still in between the teeth.  The mouthwash will kill a lot of bacteria, but certainly not all of it, and it multiplies very quickly.  A few hours, and you will have pre rinse levels of bacteria in the teeth and gums again.  

thats what my dentist said to me...my fiance works for a dentist!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 7:05pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from kauaian
Hi BTD Family,
I need some help. First of all, I don't know how to search threads for the above topic.  Tried 2 things that did not bring up anything.  Anyhow for as long as I can remember I had bad teeth.  Had perio surgery about 5 years ago & my teeth have been doing poorly about 2 years ago. Right around the time my dentist who doesn't have any chair side manner @ all started losing staff & hygienists.  Post surgery have been doing maintenance every 3 months & keep having new hygienists because I hear he is a harsh person to work with.  Anyway since all of this started happening it seems my teeth have been declining.  I am going to brush after every meal & do the anti bacterial protocol but need advise on how to proceed.  I am also shopping around for a new dentist because I need someone more stable for my on going problems. Please PM me if you can help, I would appreciate any feedback. :-/

Sounds like it is mostly gum (periodontal) disease, so I'd suggest taking CoQ10, anywhere from 30 to 100 mg per day.  CoQ10 is excellent for so many things, and one of them is gum health.  I can't say enough about this great substance!
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, August 3, 2011, 7:10pm; Reply: 18
P.S.  From Wikipedia's page on CoQ10:

"Studies have shown that diseased gum tissue is deficient in CoQ10 compared to healthy gum tissue.[57][58] Human clinical trials have suggested a link between oral administration of CoQ10 and improved gingival health,[59] immune response in gum tissues,[60] and a reversal of the diseased gum conditions.[61] In addition to oral supplementation, topical application of CoQ10 on gum tissues has been shown to improve periodontitis and gingivitis conditions.[62]"

Note:  I suggest taking the CoQ10 orally, even though the quote mentions that topical application helps, too.
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