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Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 1:55pm
Hii guys ;D, so i always had this question in mind, is ur height due to ur nutrition while growing or genetics?? this is my own experince..

Growing up i ate whatevers there, didn't really care about nutrition. As a kid i ate corn flakes with milk, beef sausages, apeice of bread or whatever for breakfast!! ;D For lunch i would eat whatever mom cooked, steak and potato, rice and some cury stuff, pasta etc..!! I didn't really have a dinner  ;D through out the day and whenever i feel hungry i snacked on potato chips, i would eat 5 packs in a row like a glove LOOL!!! I always craved salty stuff never really liked sweet stuff... When we go out to eat i usually order fried shrimps and potato or spaghetti bollonies from the kids menu  ;D ;D !! As you can see, i was living on avoids, like living :o... That explains why i used to see people have energy after eating and why i used to be bloated and feel sick :).
But whenever there's carrots or some Romain lettuce in the fridge i would hoover it up!! At least that was healthy, now i know, that my body was craving those two beneficials, because it needs them!!

Now that you know how i used to eat, take that! Before 4 years, when i was like 17-18 i was under 5"5!! ;D ;D.. Until i discovered Eat Right 4 Your Type.. It was when we were sitting in the family room .. When my aunt said to her friend about it, you should eat foods that are right for ur blood type!! That sentence made me laugh, and continued chatting on skype LOOL :).. Until she said tomatoes and oranges are bad!! I got pissed.. i told her are you serious?? how about google, "benefits of tomatoes" and see what turns out :P.. and hey!! oranges are full of vitamine C, i thought u knew that, hah! And continued chatting ;).. Days went by, and i came back to the same sofa, where i found the secret ;D "Eat For Your Type", i opened the book and went straight to type A read the first 2 pages, then flipped right to the food lists! That's what i wanted!! Ooyeah ;)! Went through the lists... And it striked me... this diet is legit!! I was like.. thats why i dont digest meat right.. thats why i feel sick from milk... and all the "thats why" confessions came out!! ;) I always wanted to do an allergy test and food intolernce or whatever and its like this seemed the results... I decided to try this out.. i avoided the avoids.. ate alota neutrals and not too much beneficials "soy stuff". The first two weeks, i NEVER had gas which i used to have always thanks to the "dairy stuff" i was drinking/eating and all the other avoids.. Felt great!!  ;D and am like finally i get energy from what im eating.. WooHooo! 8) ...

My point is after eating right for my type.. I went from under 5"5, probably 5"4 or so because my mom is 5"6 and i was like shorter than her in an inch and a half.... to an awesome 5"9 and a half at age 21 :)... here's my family's heights...

Father: 5"7
Mother: 5"6
Brother: 6"1
Brother: 6"2
Sister: 5"6
Me: 5"9


;D ;D so obviously eating right for my type had a great side effect :) although i started late... if i would of eaten right since the begging im sure i'll be atleast 6 foot with all the growth hormone i had that time and with my activity levels hehehe :)

I think that height is genetics but nutrition too, if someone like me continued eating like i was eating and stayed at 5"5 or even 5"6 he shouldn't blame genetics...

My brothers are both B, so they were obviously benefiting from all that milk and red meats we were consuming! hah! Atleast i tried and made a change.... :)

Before BTD i was probably protein deficient, calcium and for sure anemic!!

Thanks guys for reading .. tell me what you think!! ;D ;D
Posted by: marjorie, Monday, June 20, 2011, 2:03pm; Reply: 1
so, I am creeped out a little because I was just going to post something about genetics and height and ERFYT.

I totally agree with the concept that we may grow if you adhere to the diet. Perhaps, our muscles are longer and leaner, we stand taller or we are not as a puffy.

I am in shock that I went back to NY after one year last week, and everyone keeps telling me I grew and I lost weight.. ironically, I gained 5 pounds since I have moved to CO.

So, I was always under 5'2 until I started adhering to this diet over 80 % now, I am 5'4.

Good for you for becoming aware and starting to follow your natural body at an early age.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 2:09pm; Reply: 2
marjorie, i know!! thank god... from the first month i saw changes in my height, by body was like hungry for nutrients.. :)
Posted by: Minnie777, Monday, June 20, 2011, 2:33pm; Reply: 3
I think that if you are all of a sudden taller as an adult, it's usually posture. At some point between  entering puberty and age 20 ish the growing ends of the bones fuse and growth stops. No amount of nutrition or supplements will let you actually grow afterwards.
Good posture and supple muscles and tendons (which allow you to stretch up as tall as possible) can account for a couple of inches though.
I believe that everybody is genetically programmed to reach a certain height under optimal circumstances. Less than optimal circumstances mean less height. That and age at onset of puberty.

I'm  177cm (5'10")
father 174
mother 170
Brother 190
a couple of  male cousins at around 200 cm and all my female cousins are 5'11 to 6'1"
I'm from northern Germany and 5'10 is not considered all that tall for a woman.
Posted by: marjorie, Monday, June 20, 2011, 2:42pm; Reply: 4
Thanks for the feedback. So, any chance I can tack on another inch or is it too late:(
Posted by: Easy E, Monday, June 20, 2011, 2:50pm; Reply: 5
I believe eating right can charge the muscles and sinews with energy, strengthen the bones, and make you much stronger mentally and physically.  Perhaps the muscles and tendons are now charged with the right stuff and work at a higher level.  
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 2:50pm; Reply: 6
People start growing taller when they start puberty, in my case 13.  If my nutrition was in check that time i would've grown taller, it wouldn't grow unless u give it right proteins and right carbs, STRAIGHT up i wasn't, its that simple!!! And as i said i was probably calcium and vit d deficient with my sucky diet tht i was on! At age 21 u stop growing. After age 21 you can grow taller with the right nutrition, stretching techniques and most importantly Growth hormone supplementation (STEROIDS). Those are FACTS ;) ;D
Posted by: marjorie, Monday, June 20, 2011, 4:22pm; Reply: 7
Neat... good to know.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, June 20, 2011, 5:20pm; Reply: 8
Fitness Addict- for a man to go through a growth spurt at age 21 is well within the range of normal. You might have had that growth spurt no matter what you'd been eating.  Or it could be that malnutrition was keeping you from reaching your full potential.

I don't think that good nutrition can really make somebody taller than they're meant to be, not unless the good nutrition starts in utero and continues throughout life. I read an article in Muse magazine about good nutrition increasing height over generations, but it didn't have too much effect on individuals.

I'm 5'2" tall, and my daughter's father is 4'5" tall. One of his sisters is 4' 11.5" tall (I think she might have been a full 5 feet when she was younger, but I'm not sure.) Needless to day, my daughters will NOT be tall. My 16yo is my height, but my 15yo is about 4' 10" tall, and may not make it to 5 feet tall, like her aunt.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 5:31pm; Reply: 9
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I don't think that good nutrition can really make somebody taller than they're meant to be

yea, but NOT good nutrition will not make them as tall as they're meant to be.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 5:41pm; Reply: 10
Why do you think stretching techniques work? i dont think it's a fact. :)
Imagine a basketball player, tall right? you think all basketball players are tall because they are genetically gifted?? NOPE. Its because the constant movement they do every time they throw the ball to that net ;D ;D it stretch's ur back and many other muscles and force it to grow taller just like when ur doing weight training.. ur muscle is forced to grow to keep up... besides the science evidence.. I SAW people grow taller by doing stretching technique, good nutrition and the "THE" most important part HGH (STEROIDS)!! its all science.... heck inject HGH to a 75 yrs old guy ask him how do you feel? I FEEL YOUNGER. How about injecting some testosterone? I FEEL IM 18 again!! LOOL same concept...
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, June 20, 2011, 7:26pm; Reply: 11
OK, adding synthetic hormones just might make somebody grow even after the age when they'd otherwise have stopped growing. I don't think that's a safe practice though. IMO, HGH injections should be saved for kids with diagnosed below-normal HGH levels, where the benefits (allowing the child to grow to a normal height) may outweigh the risks of synthetic hormone use. Even then, it should be used to replace what "should be" there, not to promote growth in a 75 year old.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 8:52pm; Reply: 12
All im saying that its possible, not promoting. And people who take HGH at 75 need it just as much as kids that have low levels.. Not for growing taller i mean. Same a testosterone but always should be with a doc.. Whats dangerous is the illegal buying that whats happening in the bodybuilding scene, im not against it if you know how to use it like pro bb's.. but i would never take them, maybe when i become 75  ;D ;D.
Posted by: grey rabbit, Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:08pm; Reply: 13
FitnessAddict, check this out http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epiphyseal_plate Once your epiphyseal plates fuse you cannot grow taller! The ends of your bones will not grow, period, end of story. I don't care how many nasty hormones you inject once the plates are closed they are closed for good. the only bone growth that happens after that point is for the bones to grow stronger, thicker, denser with good nutrition and the right kind of exercise, but they will not grow longer, sorry. I'm glad for you that you found this way of eating so young, 5'9" is a nice height. I too grew up with a type O mother that insisted on meat, meat and tomatoes (gag me) and I ate "healthy" food, but not right for me. I'm just shy of 5'8". I don't know what would have happened if I'd eaten correctly for my type, but honestly it has taken years to be comfortable with the fact that I'm pretty tall, hard not to slouch when I was young, I was always one of the tallest in my class.
Posted by: cajun, Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 1:20am; Reply: 14
My husband grew until age 22. We met in childhood and married at 21. He went from
6'1" to 6'2" ...we measured when we got engaged and again before our first anniversary. He has 2 brothers and several uncles over 6'.
Our youngest son had a huge growth spurt between age 16 and 17. At 21 he was 6'3" and 22 he was 6'3 and 3/4". He is almost 24 and has added bulky muscle to his large frame and now seems shorter looking. He is a hunter and eats like there is no tomorrow, especially meat!
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Thursday, June 23, 2011, 10:14pm; Reply: 15
hey cajun, good to knw!! maybe i'll start some stretching techniques.. to add an inch or two ;D
Posted by: cajun, Friday, June 24, 2011, 7:01am; Reply: 16
Good luck, FitnessAddict! I hope you have a good "height" gene. ;D
Posted by: 10809 (Guest), Sunday, June 26, 2011, 1:05pm; Reply: 17
Hmmmm. Funny I should come across this thread. On my military identification card I was 5 ft 2". My son asked me to measure my height recently. He is loveing the fact that he is finally taller than me. I said I did not need to measure myself, that I knew what I was but he insisted, so I did it. To my amazement, I was 5 ft 3". I chalked it up to the fact that I dont have the extra weight to carry around.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Sunday, June 26, 2011, 3:34pm; Reply: 18
niceee ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Kristin, Sunday, June 26, 2011, 4:42pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from grey rabbit
I too grew up with a type O mother that insisted on meat, meat and tomatoes (gag me) and I ate "healthy" food, but not right for me. I'm just shy of 5'8". I don't know what would have happened if I'd eaten correctly for my type, but honestly it has taken years to be comfortable with the fact that I'm pretty tall, hard not to slouch when I was young, I was always one of the tallest in my class.


Ya, me too. Except that I am over 6'1" so thank goodness I was not  fed right for my type in my youth! Just imagine how tall I would be!!! ;D ;D  Actually... I think genetics plays the major role in determining height unless there are severe nutritional deficiencies involved. Both my sons who were raised on the BTD are not that tall considering their parentage: 6'2" for the oldest and the youngest might make 6'3".

Here is a link to a show that Martha Stewart did on height. Some of the segments are interesting:

http://www.marthastewart.com/show/the-martha-stewart-show/the-tall-show
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, June 26, 2011, 7:38pm; Reply: 20
You need to be pretty seriously malnourished for it to affect your height. This can happen due to not eating enough (impoverished families who can't afford enough food, kids being neglected and not fed enough, anorexia or another disorder affecting appetite) or from malabsorption (the child eats enough but the body can't use the nutrition.) Even with "eating wrong for your type" most kids can still get enough  nutrition for normal growth, as long as they get enough total food. Of course, there are exceptions. Somebody with bordeline digestive issues may be able to absorb enough nutrients when "eating right" but be malnourished when "eating wrong."

FitnessAddict may have been malnourished due to not absorbing the foods he ate, which quickly resolved when he started BTD. It's also possible that he was due for a major growth spurt in his early 20's, and would have had the same growth pattern even if he had always followed BTD, or didn't start following it until after he was done growing. But there's no way to know what could have happened.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 27, 2011, 1:58am; Reply: 21
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FitnessAddict may have been malnourished due to not absorbing the foods he ate, which quickly resolved when he started BTD

i think this is what happend to me. but btw when i started smoking at age 16 my sucky diet changed ;D ;D it was 2 redbulls and 1 pack aday with a 800-1000 calories dinner (takeout). im being serious, thats worse than anorexia LOOL.

and yeah, does SWAMI ask if ur previous smoker???

PS: i think 5"8 for a girls is nice..
Posted by: Easy E, Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 12:55pm; Reply: 22
When the postural muscles are strong and toned, it helps you to hold your frame correctly.  Most people today have poorly toned or an imbalance in strength that causes the posture to not line up with gravity the way it should. People were meant to be on their feet a good portion of the day, not sit in a cushioned chair with a back rest all day long!  Using hormones and steroids will long term upset the balance of your body and could trigger problems for you many years down the road.
Posted by: Lin, Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 2:31pm; Reply: 23
I would think the right diet would contribute.  I think genetics are quite powerful too.  And then you  have the late developers, my son was one of those and very small for his age, bottom 20 percentile but he had a grow spurt when he was around 17 and at 22 I think he is still growing. The same thing happened to me, and I added 1/2 around age 21.  This was long before the Blood type diet obviously, and a fair amount of what I used to eat was wrong for me.  I would have liked to be a bit taller, but 5'3" isn't too bad.
Posted by: Easy E, Wednesday, June 29, 2011, 6:51pm; Reply: 24
When you eat right and exercise right, even if you are shorter, you will have the strength of someone much bigger because the muscles will function at higher efficiency.  When you have your muscles charged with energy, your height will not matter as much.  You will pound for pound and inch for inch be very strong.  

Exercise them regularly, and eat the good stuff!
Posted by: grey rabbit, Thursday, June 30, 2011, 12:43pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from FitnessAddict
PS: i think 5"8 for a girls is nice..
;D

I've come to appreciate my height.

I do,very much, see the benefits of eating right. I am stronger and leaner than I was pre-BTD and swami has fine-tuned everything.

Swami xpress does not ask if you are a smoker, it asks for medical histories.

Posted by: paul clucas, Friday, July 15, 2011, 4:15pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from ruthiegirl
You need to be pretty seriously malnourished for it to affect your height. This can happen due to not eating enough (impoverished families who can't afford enough food, kids being neglected and not fed enough, anorexia or another disorder affecting appetite) or from malabsorption (the child eats enough but the body can't use the nutrition.) Even with "eating wrong for your type" most kids can still get enough  nutrition for normal growth, as long as they get enough total food. Of course, there are exceptions. Somebody with bordeline digestive issues may be able to absorb enough nutrients when "eating right" but be malnourished when "eating wrong."

FitnessAddict may have been malnourished due to not absorbing the foods he ate, which quickly resolved when he started BTD. It's also possible that he was due for a major growth spurt in his early 20's, and would have had the same growth pattern even if he had always followed BTD, or didn't start following it until after he was done growing. But there's no way to know what could have happened.
The Standard American Diet is malnourishment that differs with the epigenetic individuality of the person.

By the middle of the current century we might become as disgusted with the poor nutrition in the twentieth century as most people living in the twentieth century were with the nutrition in tenth century.  What is possible in the future with multiple generations eating substantially right for their type?

For millennia we have been conceived by parents who's eating habits have at the same time both supported and undermined the processes of health in their bodies.  Through epigenetics we were programmed the same.

Now we can break the cycle!    ;D ;D ;D

"We know what we are, but know not what we may be."  We are the mirror opposite of the insane Ophelia in William Shakespeare's Hamlet.  Instead of anticipated, but unpredictable, despair we have anticipated, but unpredictable, hope.

Posted by: 14922 (Guest), Friday, July 15, 2011, 4:26pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Minnie777
I think that if you are all of a sudden taller as an adult, it's usually posture.


Minnie777, yes I can attest to this. When I ate broccoli and flax oil for breakfast for several weeks in a row, my posture straightened out and I gained a half inch in my early twenties. Broccoli is known for helping with strengthening posture.

I had a late growth spurt when I was 19 and I hit 5'9. But as my posture has declined over the years since I work at a desk for many hours a day, I lost some "height" but rather I know it's just that I need to get straightened out again.
Posted by: ambermac, Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 3:46am; Reply: 28
i'm 18 but 19 in 3 months and trying my best on my swami... its been a week (still annoyed at myself for cheating with yoghurt  >:( )

do i still have a chance of growing?? i'm 170/171cm
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 6:24am; Reply: 29
no biggie
swami grows with you!! :)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 3:00pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from ambermac
i'm 18 but 19 in 3 months and trying my best on my swami... its been a week (still annoyed at myself for cheating with yoghurt  >:( )

do i still have a chance of growing?? i'm 170/171cm


Don't be so hard on yourself! It's only been a week and you had ONE "avoid" food? Just get right back on track with good eating. I even know some O's who intentionally eat yogurt and/or kefir (though not the kind with sugar and other junk added) along with the rest of the O diet and still do fine.

As for growing, it really depends on your genetics. Most girls stop growing about 2 years after getting their first period, while most boys keep growing until their early 20's. Of course, there are plenty of individual exceptions. My 16yo is really hoping she'll grow a bit more- she wants to be at least 4'11"!!! (150 cm)
Posted by: gardengirl, Wednesday, September 5, 2012, 8:45pm; Reply: 31
I always wondered about the height thing for me too.
Mom - 5'8"
Dad- 6'2"
Brother - 6'4"
Sister - 5'11"
Sister - 5'9"
Me - 5'5"
Sounds decent but considering both sides of my parents' families are giants, I am pretty small. I do now have excellent posture as I always "stretch" myself up. I started with autoimmune problems at a very young age so a being in my 40's now a lot of damage has been done. BUT a lot of it is becoming undone although my height is still the same, which is fine. Interesting though.
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Thursday, September 6, 2012, 6:43pm; Reply: 32
My husband said that boys sometimes finish growing at age 26.

Usually the offspring are taller than the parents, but my mom & aunt were shorter than their mother(my grandma). My sis & I are taller than our mom was. (I'm only a little taller.)

Maybe protein has something to do with reaching the height potential rather than other specific nutrients. I have heard  that for nationalities that are shorter in native countries, the kids are taller when they live in the USA with all our protein.
Posted by: Drea, Thursday, September 6, 2012, 6:45pm; Reply: 33
I didn't stop growing until I was almost 23 yo. I stand at 5' 9.5".
Posted by: D.L., Friday, September 7, 2012, 1:23am; Reply: 34
I'm still only 5 feet tall. Grandma was even shorter. Mom was 5'1". Dad's family were about average height. So I guess my height genetics came from Mom's side of the family. I don't mind being short.
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