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Posted by: FitnessAddict, Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 10:12pm
Hey guys, for like the past 5 days i really couldn't sleep im really really tired and my heart beats faster than usual.. and when i sleep i wake up before having enough sleep, i wake up tired!!! i used to have insomnia back in high school and its totally the same now... im OFF caffeine for like a month now and the glutamine tht i was asking about, i stopped takin the second day which is before like a week.. maybe i got used to ZMA?? before i sleep.. my bottle fished on me before like aweek? panadol night seems to help me sleep is it okay to take? not for along time.. just to knock me off for 2 day worth of sleep that i need.. any suggestion any natural sleep remedies? this really sucks im in my room all day lack of energy just feeling like i want to sleep but i cant...
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 10:41pm; Reply: 1
methyl 12 read about adjusting circadian rhythms
Posted by: Kim, Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 10:46pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from FitnessAddict
Hey guys, for like the past 5 days i really couldn't sleep im really really tired and my heart beats faster than usual.. and when i sleep i wake up before having enough sleep i wake up tired!!! i used to have insomnia back in high school and its totally the same now... im OFF caffeine for like a month now and the glutamine tht i was asking about i stopped takin the second day which is before like a week.. maybe i got used to ZMA?? before i sleeping.. my bottle fished before like aweek? panadol night seems to help me sleep is it okay to take? not for along time.. just to knock me off for 2 day worth of sleep that i need.. any suggestion any natural sleep remedies? this really sucks im in my room all day lack of energy just feeling like i want to sleep but i cant...


Source Naturals sublingual melatonin might help.  Start with 1 mg at bedtime.  
Posted by: Vicki, Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 10:59pm; Reply: 3
Check out a few guidelines here:

http://www.dadamo.com/bloodtype_A.htm

Also, do a forum search to find previous discussions of this issue for Type As.

Exercises like hatha yoga and t'ai chi have been shown to reduce cortisol levels.  Cortisol is a stress hormone.  

Have you had your blood pressure checked lately?  
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 11:11pm; Reply: 4
Sleep is very healing and incredibly important. If you don't get enough sleep, all kinds of things start falling apart.

You've gotten lots of  great information here- but chances are that many of these suggestions aren't things you have in the house and won't be able to obtain before bedtime tonight. Many non-drug ideas take a while to work- sometimes a relaxation technique works well enough that you do it once and "fix" the problem, at least temporarily, but sometimes you need to do an exercise numerous times, over several days, before you really feel the effects.

Given the choice between not sleeping, or taking a drug to help you sleep, you're probably better off taking the medicine tonight. Hopefully you'll get releif from natural remedies so you can sleep without medicine tomorrow night- but if not, do what you need to do, so you can get enough rest while you work on deeper healing. If you still need meds to sleep after 3 or 4 nights, you'll need to re-evaluate risks vs benefits, but right now, for tonight, the meds might be the best choice.
Posted by: Vicki, Wednesday, June 15, 2011, 11:16pm; Reply: 5
Magnesium rich foods or magnesium supplement can help in the short term.

Foods:

http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=75

One type of supplement:

http://www.petergillham.com/wp/2009/11/natural-calm/
Posted by: jayneeo, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 1:41am; Reply: 6
I have this problem and am now using ambien, a pharmacuetical, which is not a great thing to do, but I simply must have some sleep, and it only works so-so....but I will go off it when I feel more rested.......(iI've been on it in the past and got off it with the help of theanine and melatonin)
best of luck......
Posted by: Vicki, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 2:58am; Reply: 7
Hope ya wake like Rip Van Winkle :-)  (I was going to say Rumpelstiltskin....dunno how well he slept though...)

The medications do not induce the same quality of sleep as natural sleep.  I, too, have gone 5 days without sleep in the past....so far I think that's the max I've endured.  

All the best!
Posted by: 10809 (Guest), Thursday, June 16, 2011, 3:30am; Reply: 8
Be sure to dim lights in the evening and stay away from the computer and any stimulating programs. Do not eat too late at night or exercise too late. Saw on a program the other day that pumpkin seeds help to produce melatonin naturally in the body. You can use a coffee grinder to grind them to put in a shake or eat as is but chew well to reap the benefits. Hope you have a good nights steep tonight. Sleeping is my favorite thing to do. Oh and do some deep breathing.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 6:19am; Reply: 9
FitnessAddict, ever tried alternate nostril breathing before bed?

http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeA_basic.asp
...............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDjMqnxSBF4

try other BT A stress management techniques
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 9:41am; Reply: 10
thanks to each any everyone of u SO so much :) :). i really couldn't do exercising and breathing and stuff, i was so exhausted its like my body can't function.. but i took some panadol night yesterday and slept for a good 9 hours i feel great today and i hope i'll sleep this good tonight without the panadol, i will check evrey link u guys posted and the tips.. thx guys :)
Posted by: upnorth6, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 11:33am; Reply: 11
Hey fitness,
When are you working out? Is it closer to bed time?

I get insomnia if I work out to close to bedtime and if I'm over training. I will be mentally and physically exhausted and when I try to sleep I feel like I injected caffeine straight into my veins....that's always my personal indicator that I'm pushing too hard in the gym.


I also have to be very careful with what foods I eat at dinner and before bed.

Good luck to you, I know how incredibly frustrating it can be.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 11:39am; Reply: 12
High cortisol levels can do this.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 12:27pm; Reply: 13
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I get insomnia if I work out to close to bedtime and if I'm over training.

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High cortisol levels can do this.


so true, i always get that after a workout and i think its due to the high cortisol levels. The thing is i haven't work out for 4 days now but we'll see what happens today ill workout before bedtime in atleast 4 hours.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 1:32pm; Reply: 14
A's get stressed from over exercise.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 3:48pm; Reply: 15
http://www.lowbluelights.com 8)
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, June 16, 2011, 7:13pm; Reply: 16
Do I remember correctly that you are eating a really large amount of protein each day?  If so, you might examine the balance in your diet.
Posted by: Easy E, Friday, June 17, 2011, 7:46pm; Reply: 17
Fitnessaddict, what GT are you?  I know as an explorer that doing more intense exercsie helps me to feel more relaxed and balanced and sleep deeper.  If you are a teacher, a combo of more and less intense exercise is said to be best.  If you are a warrior, you should engage in some walking and tai chi or qi gong or other softer exercise.
Posted by: Easy E, Friday, June 17, 2011, 7:50pm; Reply: 18
Qigong can truly flush out cortisol and enhance your stress handling a good bit...it also helps flush adrenaline and restore spend energies.  I think its great for all blood types.  It seems to make me manic if i don't do enough physical intense exercise to balance it though.  Thats just me.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 2:14pm; Reply: 19
Easy E, i dont knw what GT i am but i am pretty sure im not an explorer. I really need to knw though it will be my next step before getting my SWAMI.

WHAT are the genotypes that an A sec could possibly be? it'll make things easier..
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 2:24pm; Reply: 20
btw im fine now i sleep normally and wake up normally ;D ;D. I think it definitely was a high cortisol situation.
Posted by: Easy E, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 2:45pm; Reply: 21
explorer, warrior, or teacher for A.  
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 2:46pm; Reply: 22
wait! Easy E, if ur an explorer that means u can eat beef? but ur an A! what if an O explorer can eat beef, then not all explorers can eat beef?
Posted by: Patty H, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 2:48pm; Reply: 23
Fitnessaddict, do you have the Geno Type Diet book?  If so, in the back is the advanced calculator.  In looking at this, it looks like type A's can be Teacher, Explorer, or Warrior.  I believe that is it.  Getting more info, such as Rhesus + or - and A subtype would help.  Also, if you have health insurance, you can get all of this info with one blood draw.  You could also ask for your Lewis phenotype and MN phenotype.  Simply measuring  whether your torso is longer than your legs or visa versa and your upper leg length vs lower leg length and whether your index fingers or ring fingers are longer would give you a lot of information.  Those are fairly simple measurements.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 2:52pm; Reply: 24
Patty i dont have the genotype book but i knw im A+ secretor and dont knw the subtype and i have a measuring tape is this enough?
Posted by: Patty H, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 3:43pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from FitnessAddict
Patty i dont have the genotype book but i knw im A+ secretor and dont knw the subtype and i have a measuring tape is this enough?


FitnessAddict, it would be helpful if you could add the + to your avatar.  That give us more info.  A measuring tape and a ruler should be all you need.  There are a couple of videos on taking the measurements you need.  I'll see if I can figure out where they are and post the links.  You should have a friend do the measuring.  It will be more accurate.  Also, for some people, simply looking at the length of your ring fingers vs. your index fingers is all you need.  Often times, it is very easy to determine which is longer.

Knowing that you are an A+ secretor, we can already rule out Explorer, so you are either aTeacher or a Warrior, as it appears that only A- can be Explorer.

A word of caution, here, however.  Some people have found that when they purchase a SWAMI, their genotype changes from the one they determined in the book.  This is because SWAMI incorporates a lot more individual information.  However, since you can be only a Teacher or Warrior, your choices are narrowed and you can look at the similarities between the diets.
Posted by: Patty H, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 3:51pm; Reply: 26
Here you go:

Measuring torso and leg length

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnmUUVuVMA

Measuring finger length

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65qdAvuNjsc

Hope this helps!  :o
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 6:51pm; Reply: 27
Thank you Patty so very much ;D. Actually there's no A+ sec avatar, i posted a thread asking for one ;D .. thx for the info and the very useful videos.. Lets see which one i am Teacher or a Warrior  ;D ;D ..
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 7:22pm; Reply: 28
From what im reading im so a Teacher!!!! but i guess we'll wait until after the measurements..
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, June 18, 2011, 9:44pm; Reply: 29
When you measure your fingers, close enough is not enough.  I found that a transparent ruler helps with precision.  Also, measuring on the palm side of the fingers instead of between them.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, June 19, 2011, 12:52am; Reply: 30
Hard exercise is known to up cortisol in type A's.

You might look at Tulsi tea (Holy Basil). It is mentioned in the BTD Encyclopedia for helping A's with cortisol. I have some gene SNP's that it REALLY helps me with, so I have it awhile after exercise or when I get upset.

http://www.amazon.com/Organic-India-Tulsi-Tea-3-5/dp/B003SNZ1SC/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1308444665&sr=8-5

Blessings and hope you are having sweet dreams soon.
Posted by: Patty H, Sunday, June 19, 2011, 3:43am; Reply: 31
Quoted from FitnessAddict
Thank you Patty so very much ;D. Actually there's no A+ sec avatar, i posted a thread asking for one ;D .. thx for the info and the very useful videos.. Lets see which one i am Teacher or a Warrior  ;D ;D ..


Let us know what you find out, FitnessAddict!  It can only enhance your progress on the diet to know your genotype.  I agree with Victoria.  Measure your fingers, which is why I posted the video.  With some people it is so obvious, but with others, measurements are necessary.  Either way, if you get a SWAMI, you will need to input the measurements, so while you have a friend to help, just do it!   ;D
Posted by: Easy E, Sunday, June 19, 2011, 1:31pm; Reply: 32
Beef is a neutral for me.
Posted by: Easy E, Sunday, June 19, 2011, 1:35pm; Reply: 33
Patty H, that is not accurate info about explorers and the rh factor.  Explorers can in fact be rh positive.  Being negative is a sign, but not needed to be an explorer.
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, June 20, 2011, 3:45am; Reply: 34
Quoted from Easy E
Patty H, that is not accurate info about explorers and the rh factor.  Explorers can in fact be rh positive.  Being negative is a sign, but not needed to be an explorer.


That may be the case.  I just looked at the Advanced Calculator in the back of the GenoType book and for type A+ secretors, which FitnessAddict confirmed, no matter what the torso length, upper or lower leg length or index finger vs. ring finger, the only type A's I saw in the advanced calculator who were Explorers are Rhesus negative and/or non-secretors.  I just checked the advanced calculator again, and I believe that this is what the book says.  What I did say was that A+ secretors can only be teacher or warrior.  What I forgot to say is that not only can A- be Explorer, but A non-secretors, so maybe leaving that part out was confusing.  I think that A+ secretors can only be teachers or warriors.

Maybe I missed something?  It would be great if someone can check my accuracy with the book.  I did comment that SWAMI is more advanced and that with SWAMI, FitnessAddict's genotype could change.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:11am; Reply: 35
I am an A+ secretor Explorer, but that is per SWAMI by Dr. D. I don't have the books or kit handy.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:51am; Reply: 36
Quoted from Easy E
Beef is a neutral for me.

wow! i never thought that would be possible, lucky explorers!  i guess i should stop walking around preaching that A's should not eat beef, they might be explorers! LoL! ;D ;D
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:53am; Reply: 37
from what i've read im so not a warrior! and im 98% a teacher ;D ;D ;D it explains alot!!

what are the recommended exercises for teachers?
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:53am; Reply: 38
I think that is because of his A2 subtype. Hmmm...
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, June 20, 2011, 9:56am; Reply: 39
oh, so not all ;D ! these things im learning are making so wanna get a SWAMI i never thought we were THAT individualized ..
Posted by: Easy E, Monday, June 20, 2011, 1:30pm; Reply: 40
The book says teachers need regular vigorous exercise that balances both more and less demanding stuff.  Light stuff is light weight work, yoga, etc. and more demanding is moderate competitive sports like tennis, raquetball, moderate weight work, fast paced walking, hiking etc.  I'm sure there are many exercises a teacher could do, but they need the relaxed exercises to cool down and balance out the heavy stuff.  
Posted by: Patty H, Monday, June 20, 2011, 11:14pm; Reply: 41
FitnessAddict, a SWAMI will certainly help you confirm your genotype.  Did you also read the Explorer and Warrior info to see if some of that makes sense?  Most of us are a combination, but we follow the diet that has the strongest percentage.  For instance, I think Dr. Nash pegged me at 48-50% Hunter, but I definitely have some Explorer tendancies, such as unusual fingerprints for a Hunter, a rare blood antigen, so SWAMI can factor that into my personal diet and be sure that those Explorer tendancies are addressed in my diet as well.

By the way, I checked the book a third time, and according to the book, A + secretors, using the Advanced Calculator can only be Teacher or Warrior, so I assume that SWAMI has just expanded the definition and parameters allowing for Explorers with those three attributes, depending upon other factors.  ??)

Given all of this, I think you should get a SWAMI if you can afford it  ;D
Posted by: Easy E, Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 3:10am; Reply: 42
Patty H, what type of rare blood antigen do you have and what fingerprints do you have that are unusual for hunters?  I'm just interested in this stuff and trying to learn:)

BTW, i saw the same thing when i looked at my book today.  That is right! Though i have not done my secretor test, can't afford it now:( most evidence from measurements, body build (meso-ectomorphic) and psych traits, plus being ambidextrous and having different prints on my thumbs and ring fingers, plus doing well with the explorer diet have lead me to believe i am an explorer.  Plus the exercise protocols help me for explorers, as i seem to truly be a slower acetylator.  I therefore must be a non secretor, though i have no actual proof.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 10:59am; Reply: 43
Secretors can be slow acetylator's, too. Well, at least I can. But I like to think, perhaps, I'm getting better at it. :)

I do know that SWAMI Pro (if not Xpress)-- it's been awhile-- also has the option of overriding the data to choose the primary genotype, so someone experienced can override or choose to do something for a specific purpose. Overriding for a person who had fought cancer, for instance.

I typed Warrior per the advanced calculator, but was having issues and was uncertain so went to see Dr. D to get it sorted. I'm the rare bird, so it was good that I went. My strength test in all columns was pretty high and my prints have a lot of asymmetry (and at the time, lots of white lines as my gut was a wreck).

I love my SWAMI. It doesn't matter what the label says as it's individualized. Now, I'm about to bust out a new level of getting serious with it and getting the variety in. :)
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 12:57pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from Easy E
Patty H, what type of rare blood antigen do you have and what fingerprints do you have that are unusual for hunters?  I'm just interested in this stuff and trying to learn:)

BTW, i saw the same thing when i looked at my book today.  That is right! Though i have not done my secretor test, can't afford it now:( most evidence from measurements, body build (meso-ectomorphic) and psych traits, plus being ambidextrous and having different prints on my thumbs and ring fingers, plus doing well with the explorer diet have lead me to believe i am an explorer.  Plus the exercise protocols help me for explorers, as i seem to truly be a slower acetylator.  I therefore must be a non secretor, though i have no actual proof.


Easy E, in the 1950's my father and uncles were the first people ever discovered with the Mg antigen, which is in the MN blood system.  Several doctors studied our family and their work was pubished in Vox Sanguinus in 1958, of the discovery of the angiten.  I believe the g in Mg stands for my maiden name, Gilfeather.  I was not born when the study was conducted.  I had myself tested recently and have the antigen as do both of my two children.

Regarding my fingerprints, I am not sure what unusual ones I have.  I went for an appointment with Dr. Nash at Dr. D's clinic in Connecticut.  They took my fingerprints there and she mentioned unusual fingerprints.  As I said, she was sure I was an Explorer, so maybe I had either Radial Loops or different fingerprint patterns on my left and right inex fingers  ??)  Both of these are characteristic of Explorers.

Since you know your blood type and Rhesus type, I am assuming you used the Intermediate Calculator in the book?  You don't need to do the strength testing with the Intermediate Calculator, just the basic measurements needed for basic genotyping and knowing your blood type.  You should not assume you are a non-secretor.  If you have health insurance, they may cover the cost of the test to see if you are a non-secretor.  You would want to ask your insurance company if they cover blood typing.  If so, you should ask your doctor for an order to draw blood to test for Lewis Phenotyping and MN Phenotyping.  Or you could ask for a seropanel.  Just be sure that the Lewis Phenotyping is part of it.  You would also want to check for A1 or A2, to give you more information.  I am not an expert at this, so maybe you could do a search on the site regarding serotyping panel.

If you like the Explorer diet and it seems to be working for you and be a good fit, then by all means keep it up!  ;)
Posted by: 10809 (Guest), Tuesday, June 21, 2011, 2:36pm; Reply: 45
Saw on a program today that if you consume tart cherry juice early in the evening, it will overload you with melatonin and help you sleep. Perhaps a shake with ground pumpkin seeds and whatever else compliant you like will help.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Friday, July 1, 2011, 8:12pm; Reply: 46
can't sleep again!! yesterday i was so sleepy i would've slept like a baby, but i decided to drink 2 glasses of lemonade, each glass half a lemon. i slept like 3 hours and woke up, im like so weak and my heart is beating faster than the usual and just so sensitive and weak, didnt sleep since then. :'(. i think im sensitive to vit c..
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