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Posted by: Bibibabubi, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:37am
Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie!

Anyway here are my questions, appreciate your answers!

1. Are nonnies "weaker" or "frail-er" than secretors? I get that impression when I read the difference between them.

2. What are the foods that are now allowed for O non secretors that were previously avoids for secretors? And food that are beneficial but are now avoids or neutrals? If you know the answer off the top of your head, let me know! There are a lot of food in the TypeBase and I don't want to look them up one by one.

I'm actually following the SWAMI Gatherer diet but so curious about this nonnie stuff.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:45am; Reply: 1
:o :o :o ;D :D welcome in our royal club privé ;) ;D...(clap)(ok)(dance)(smarty)(sunny)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:46am; Reply: 2
Welcome to the nonniehood!! We are more sensitive - think: canary in the mine  :D
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 10:42am; Reply: 3
Don't worry somethings you are better at then secretors. ;)

Now that you know who you are you can eat the right foods how cool is that!
Posted by: Bibibabubi, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 11:52am; Reply: 4
Ooh what are nonnies better than secretors at.

I feel like I've join a secret club or something.  ;D
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 12:54pm; Reply: 5
If you're doing "by the book" BTD, then I think the major "secretor avoids, nonnie neutrals" are coconut oil, lentils, and avocados. Also, a few foods flip from neutral to beneficial, or vice versa, but I never cared about that, since either way these were foods I could eat.

With SWAMI, all you have to do is enter your secretor information and it will calculate the rest.
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, May 12, 2011, 1:09pm; Reply: 6
(shhh)(evil)(evil)(wink)(shrug) you know about the 20/80%tage rule...so far now you know why nonnies make the world go round (hehe)(hehe)(wiseman)
Posted by: 14204 (Guest), Thursday, May 12, 2011, 1:20pm; Reply: 7
I just found out I am a non-secretor & have only been doing the Explorer diet for about a month.
Now that I know I am both explorer & non-secretor, I am really confused.
Should I go ahead & get the Swami Software?  
??)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 2:22pm; Reply: 8
The only thing about my non-secretor status that I'm aware of right now, is that it explains my dental problems, and also the fact that I can eat an avoid and often not have a response until later, sometimes much later, making it difficult to track what I ingested that gave me the reaction.  I'm not frail or particularly sensitive.  I like fragrances and perfumes.  I enjoy all kinds of foods - with no allergies that I'm aware of.  I am a bit sensitive to scratchy fabrics, hate that, refuse to wear a wool turtleneck but I think plenty of secretors probably feel the same.  Whether you are a secretor or non-secretor, it's just good to know because it gives you more information about how your body works and what you should eat or avoid to keep it healthy.  I'm still a little skeptical myself about the nonnie club stuff (see the "you know you are a nonnie" thread).  But I have an aversion to *special* clubs, always have for some reason.  Perhaps I just haven't embraced my nonnie-hood yet.    ;)

Yes, I advise SWAMI.  It's individually tailored for you as an individual.  But if you do well on BTD with secretor status, there may be no reason to do SWAMI.  I'm glad I got mine because it makes eating & food shopping sooooo much easier for me.  I like things that are no-brainer.  
Posted by: brinyskysail, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 3:11pm; Reply: 9
Now that you know you are a nonnie, you may want to get swami.  As mentioned, it will make it a lot easier for you to know what you can eat and what you should avoid
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 3:22pm; Reply: 10
at the moment the secretors are 80 % who knows how long that will be for. in a million years gatherer nonies could rule the world ;) closely supported by nonnie explorer of course lol
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 3:51pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from 14204
I just found out I am a non-secretor & have only been doing the Explorer diet for about a month.
Now that I know I am both explorer & non-secretor, I am really confused.
Should I go ahead & get the Swami Software?  


I would.

My logic is that both explorers and nonsecretors have special health needs.

The GenoType diet is a great diet, but it only is 6 different diet plans and people with special needs probably don't exactly fit one of the 6 health plans.

In particular the explorer plans has to accomodate people from all 4 blood types and both secretors statuses.  Since it is serving all kinds of people, it may not exactly fit every explorer,

SWAMI will create a plan tailored to your needs specifically rather than explorers in general.
Posted by: TJ, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 6:04pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Bibibabubi
Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie!

Anyway here are my questions, appreciate your answers!

1. Are nonnies "weaker" or "frail-er" than secretors? I get that impression when I read the difference between them.
In general, YES.  We are more susceptible to many diseases and conditions.

Quoted from Bibibabubi
Ooh what are nonnies better than secretors at.
I think cancer resistance is the big one...maybe the only one.
Posted by: brinyskysail, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 6:10pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from 14204
I just found out I am a non-secretor & have only been doing the Explorer diet for about a month.
Now that I know I am both explorer & non-secretor, I am really confused.
Should I go ahead & get the Swami Software?  
??)


I would suspect (since you're an explorer and a non secretor) that you would discover the lists of foods swami would give you would be very different from the basic explorer diet.  It may not be, but most likely it would so...I would get swami.  The more specific your diet is for you, the better off you'll be.  Even following the explorer diet, you may be eating things you shouldn't, and you may be avoiding foods you should eat - especially since you're a nonnie.  It's up to you, but in my opinion, it would be worth it.
Posted by: SquarePeg, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 6:28pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Bibibabubi
Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie! -snip-

I'm actually following the SWAMI Gatherer diet but so curious about this nonnie stuff.
Did you re-do your SWAMI with non-secretor selected?  I wonder if you're an Explorer then?

Posted by: brinyskysail, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 7:10pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from SquarePeg
Did you re-do your SWAMI with non-secretor selected?  I wonder if you're an Explorer then?



actually selecting non secretor would probably increase the percentage of association with explorer
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 7:30pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from TJ
In general, YES.  We are more susceptible to many diseases and conditions.


Not listening to this.   :-/  Fingers in ears...la la la la...la la la la...la la la la...
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 7:52pm; Reply: 17
One benefit for being a non-secretor is that it can be a strong motivator for adhering to a very high level of compliance on this way of eating.  It's been my observation that many secretors take more liberties with following the diet more loosely.  And most non-secretors know that we'd better not take that approach if we value our health.

(hehe)
Posted by: brinyskysail, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 8:00pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from O in Virginia


Not listening to this.   :-/  Fingers in ears...la la la la...la la la la...la la la la...


Take your fingers out of your ears!  This may not be what you want to hear, but it's certainly good to know in terms of prevention.  What you don't know can hurt you.  Embrace your nonnie-ness  ;D

Posted by: SquarePeg, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 8:02pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from brinyskysail


actually selecting non secretor would probably increase the percentage of association with explorer

Exactly.  I was referring to the initial post, in which the "OP" stated that she's a Gatherer.
Posted by: brinyskysail, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 8:19pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from SquarePeg

Exactly.  I was referring to the initial post, in which the "OP" stated that she's a Gatherer.


Ohhhh, yea for dyslexia(ondrugs)  I thought she was already following explorer and you were suggesting that she's a gatherer.

Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, May 12, 2011, 9:08pm; Reply: 21
http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/wiki/wiki.pl/Secretor_Status

Read here more about secretor status.
Posted by: kauaian, Friday, May 13, 2011, 12:24am; Reply: 22
Quoted from Bibibabubi
Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie!

Anyway here are my questions, appreciate your answers!

1. Are nonnies "weaker" or "frail-er" than secretors? I get that impression when I read the difference between them.

2. What are the foods that are now allowed for O non secretors that were previously avoids for secretors? And food that are beneficial but are now avoids or neutrals? If you know the answer off the top of your head, let me know! There are a lot of food in the TypeBase and I don't want to look them up one by one.

I'm actually following the SWAMI Gatherer diet but so curious about this nonnie stuff.


I guess you should update your swami, but I don't the food list will change but for sure your % will.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, May 13, 2011, 6:18am; Reply: 23
the approach is individualized....
what is good for you, might not be as good for me, and vice versa.....
O non secretors can be gatherers, explorers and even hunters, so never generalize
Posted by: snazzyshazz, Friday, May 13, 2011, 6:43am; Reply: 24
I was surprised too to find out my secretor status. I'm Lewis double negative, presumed non-secretor (the testing here in Australia ia a little bit of a process...but that is another story. Suffice to say I couldn't be bothered clarifying the small possibility that I am a weak secretor, and go with being a nonnie.)

Anyway, several things changed with the new status. I went from explorer to gatherer. Then I got Swami. The lists were somewhat different from the GTD lists.

The best thing is that I have lost weight easily and consistently, which I didn't on the BTD/GTD. (woot) And I certainly don't feel weak or frail, quite the opposite. But nonnies are special in many ways, and it is good to know that!  ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, May 13, 2011, 1:04pm; Reply: 25
to all known nonnies and those who will know it in futur...please take care of the psychological inputs...of others and don't belief all you hear or read... why...it's also all about your own agreements... persuations etc... so far... remember:* thought become things...choose the right- one* ;) ;D....(whistle)


All recommendations might-shall are for situations who're right now or might be.... so far it mustn't.... ;) ;D ;D 8)
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Friday, May 13, 2011, 6:48pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from kauaian


I guess you should update your swami, but I don't the food list will change but for sure your % will.


Hi all, I'm new to the board. I've been studying and reading as much as possible. I got my Swami yesterday and my results today. I'm a Hunter. I don't know my secretor status yet but will be ordering it today. I strongly suspect that I'm a non-secretor because I've always been described as the canary in the cave, so it was funny to read that phrase here today. I am sensitive to many things, both food-wise and environmentally. Anyway my question is in terms of the % you mention. Just for grins, I already put non-secretor in Swami to see what would change and I'm still a Hunter so the food list won't change, but what do you mean by % in terms of the food list. Thanks... ;D
Posted by: Lola, Friday, May 13, 2011, 8:17pm; Reply: 27
welcome!

when running swami, do not click on abbreviated report...then you get the percentage
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Friday, May 13, 2011, 9:18pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from Lola
welcome!

when running swami, do not click on abbreviated report...then you get the percentage


Thanks Lola...percentage of what...portions? I have a lot to learn...:)
Posted by: SquarePeg, Friday, May 13, 2011, 10:16pm; Reply: 29
Percentage of your Genotype, in your case, Hunter.
Posted by: brinyskysail, Friday, May 13, 2011, 11:55pm; Reply: 30
The percentage represents how much you associate with or embody your genotype
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Saturday, May 14, 2011, 12:26am; Reply: 31
Quoted from SquarePeg
Percentage of your Genotype, in your case, Hunter.


Ok I get it...46% was my percentage hunter...thank you both...:)
Posted by: Bibibabubi, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 3:16am; Reply: 32
I did update my SWAMI with the non secretor part. Given that the food list is extensive, I can't see which foods have moved in the superfood/neutral/avoids categories.

My % for Gatherer has however gone up from 36% to 38%.

I'm a bit sad about the higher risks of diseases except for cancer but I thought I've always been robust in health. I don't fall sick easily but I do have mild eczema from time to time. And what is this canary analogy?

Another question... I do break out in rashes when I put on perfume and my dad breaks out in rashes when he drinks. Do I tick the "allergies" column for myself and my parents in SWAMI?

Thanks!
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 3:32am; Reply: 33
allergies and skin box, yes
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 10:58am; Reply: 34
Quoted Text
OMG

what is OMG?
Posted by: snazzyshazz, Saturday, May 14, 2011, 11:28am; Reply: 35
OMG...Oh my God or for the milder version, Oh my goodness.  ;)
Posted by: 14428 (Guest), Saturday, May 14, 2011, 2:14pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from Bibibabubi
And what is this canary analogy?



I can answer that one haha...Miners used to take canary's in a little cage into the mines with them to make sure they were safe in terms of gases etc, and if the canary's started to have problems breathing or God forbid died they knew the mine wasn't safe, and they'd get out. It correlates with being very sensitive to things...:) People have referred to me as that so I had to find out what it meant...and I'm going to be tested...we'll see...:)
Posted by: Bibibabubi, Sunday, May 15, 2011, 2:59am; Reply: 37
Ah... I am enlightened now. :)
Posted by: O plus, Sunday, May 15, 2011, 7:29pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from Bibibabubi
Hi all, I was quite stunned when I received my secretor results. Always though that I would be a secretor instead of a nonnie!

Anyway here are my questions, appreciate your answers!

1. Are nonnies "weaker" or "frail-er" than secretors? I get that impression when I read the difference between them.

2. What are the foods that are now allowed for O non secretors that were previously avoids for secretors? And food that are beneficial but are now avoids or neutrals? If you know the answer off the top of your head, let me know! There are a lot of food in the TypeBase and I don't want to look them up one by one.

I'm actually following the SWAMI Gatherer diet but so curious about this nonnie stuff.



1. In a way I guess you could say weaker. I call it more sensitive. We live in a world where we're being bombarded with a lot of unnatural things.  I look at the sensitivity of nonnies as a strength. I find the harm in something quicker through my own body's natural wisdom, ie EMF's and other carcinogens. Recently discovered I'm sensitive to the fumes from premium gasoline of all things. So I avoid.  I googled some things re premium gasoline and found there are known carcinogens added to it to boost the octane.

My weakness is my strength.

2. ?
Posted by: O plus, Sunday, May 15, 2011, 7:31pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from Possum
Welcome to the nonniehood!! We are more sensitive - think: canary in the mine  :D


Very true. The abreviated version of what I just said.  :)

Posted by: 14573 (Guest), Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 9:05am; Reply: 40
I truly believe that being an O Non Secretor I am stronger for it. I am unique and proud of it. I do not subscribe to the idea that I get sick more often, however if I do get sick I KNOW that I will not be sick for long.
Posted by: Harry O, Thursday, May 26, 2011, 9:09pm; Reply: 41
It sure seems like type-o non secretors have the best and the worst of it all as when we eat against out secretor type we seem to really suffer (inflammation and gut issues) and when we go by the book and eat all bene's we seem to function as a machine from my readings on here over the last several years.  
Posted by: kauaian, Friday, May 27, 2011, 12:26am; Reply: 42
Quoted from 14428


Hi all, I'm new to the board. I've been studying and reading as much as possible. I got my Swami yesterday and my results today. I'm a Hunter. I don't know my secretor status yet but will be ordering it today. I strongly suspect that I'm a non-secretor because I've always been described as the canary in the cave, so it was funny to read that phrase here today. I am sensitive to many things, both food-wise and environmentally. Anyway my question is in terms of the % you mention. Just for grins, I already put non-secretor in Swami to see what would change and I'm still a Hunter so the food list won't change, but what do you mean by % in terms of the food list. Thanks... ;D


Sorry I re read my post & I have a typo.  What I wanted to say is when you run  SWAMI & add more info like secretor status it changes the % of how many of the traits you have of your genotype.  For me when I finally added my taster status my % went up from 47 to 51% but my food list stayed the same.
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