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Posted by: 14400 (Guest), Saturday, May 7, 2011, 7:40pm
ER4YT (1996 edition) says that Type O should 'avoid' sprouted bread; then it says ezekiel bread is 'highly beneficial' for Type O.  The first ingredient in Ezekiel bread is sprouted wheat.  Ezekiel bread also has lentils and kidney beads, both of which Type Os are supposed to AVOID.  This conflicting information is extremely confusing.  I eat Silver Hills sprouted grain breads and have found it very healthy.  After reading ER4YT I don't know if sprouted grains breads are good or bad for Type Os.  If I'm to give this Type O diet a go, help from anyone to clarify the question would be greatly appreciated.
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, May 7, 2011, 9:57pm; Reply: 1
Have you checked the errata for the book?  I'd recommend avoiding it until you know for sure.  Many Os are gluten-intolerant, and even sprouted wheat contains gluten.
Posted by: brinyskysail, Saturday, May 7, 2011, 10:03pm; Reply: 2
The TypeBase value says Ezekiel bread is neutral for O (secretor and non) and says:

"Ezekiel bread is flourless, seeded, and sprouted grain bread. The gluten lectins (principally found in the seed coatings) are destroyed in the sprouting process. Ezekiel bread is a live food with many beneficial enzymes left intact. Ezekiel bread can usually be found in the frozen section of your local health food store. Please also note that some varieties of Ezekiel bread as well as other commercially produced sprouted breads may contain sprouted wheat and other glutenous flours to make their bread. Read the ingredient labels carefully before purchasing. "

It sounds like you just need to find a variety without wheat (or other avoids).
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, May 7, 2011, 10:51pm; Reply: 3
The most recent rating of a food can be found using typebase:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

Read about the non secretor issue
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/a.htm

here lie the differences between books..
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, May 8, 2011, 12:11am; Reply: 4
I would try to avoid the varieties of Silver Hills bread that have Wheat Gluten added to them.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, May 8, 2011, 12:14am; Reply: 5
Sprouting destroys the lectin in some foods allowing you to eat things that you would not otherwise be able to eat.

For me it works for wheat, but does not work for corn.
Posted by: 14067 (Guest), Sunday, May 8, 2011, 7:01pm; Reply: 6
I can only find two brands of sprouted ezekiel bread in my area. One (Trader Joe's) has wheat gluten added and the other (Food For Life) contains sprouted whole wheat and malted barley. I'm in Southern CA, any idea where I can find sprouted bread with no sprouted wheat or barley?
Posted by: Drea, Sunday, May 8, 2011, 7:03pm; Reply: 7
Many folks here, when they can't find *exactly* what they want/need, make their own. Have you checked the Recipe Center (link is under Online Support at the top of the page)?
Posted by: 14067 (Guest), Sunday, May 8, 2011, 8:49pm; Reply: 8
Thanks Drea,
I found some nice recipes!
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, May 8, 2011, 8:55pm; Reply: 9
Hi, JRA.

Good to see other people from the LA area on the forum...  Much success with the transition to healthier eating...
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 9, 2011, 12:17am; Reply: 10
Quoted Text
sprouted bread with no sprouted wheat or barley


http://www.google.com/custom?q=sprouted+wheat&cof=AH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3A4452213b291e6613%3B&domains=dadamo.com&sitesearch=dadamo.com

if not gluten intolerant, sprouted wheat is fine

if barley is in your list, sprouted barley would also be fine

The most recent rating of a food can be found using typebase:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm

Read about the non secretor issue
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/a.htm
Posted by: 14400 (Guest), Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 1:06am; Reply: 11
Thanks to everyone who answered my post.  The most recent food rating for Type O says Type O should 'avoid sprouted wheat bread'.  Essene (Manna) bread is listed at highly beneficial to Type O.  My supermarket carries Manna Bread in the frozen food section.  However, all varieties of Manna breads list 'Sprouted whole wheat kernels' as the first ingredient.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to me the advice that Manna bread is beneficial to Type O directly contradicts the advice to 'avoid bread made with sprouted wheat kernels'.  If sprouted wheat is bad for Type O, why is Manna bread (made with sprouted wheat) recommended as highly beneficial?

I'm trying to follow the Type O diet faithfully.  Should Type O eat or NOT eat Manna bread?

BTW: I'm NOT allergic to gluten.  The advice for Type Os to avoid sprouted wheat apparently has to do with lectin in wheat being bad for us.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 1:14am; Reply: 12
I avoid any foods that I'm not sure about- and that includes sprouted wheat breads. My daughters are following the BTD "by the book" (I follow my personalized SWAMI) and I won't buy ezekial or manna bread, since I'm not sure if they're OK or not. I do buy spelt flour and bake breads, muffins, pizza dough, etc with that. I've also bought Trader Joe's spelt bread, but I mostly make my own because it's cheaper.
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 1:34am; Reply: 13
Quoted from 14400
If sprouted wheat is bad for Type O, why is Manna bread (made with sprouted wheat) recommended as highly beneficial?

I'm trying to follow the Type O diet faithfully.  Should Type O eat or NOT eat Manna bread?

I think the Manna bread Dr. D. recommended was without wheat.  Ingredients in any prepared food can change far easier than a book (or the testing behind the rating).

According to this paragraph, Manna bread will be different per BT, since you sprout your compliant grain and make your compliant Manna bread.  

With no pun intended, Essene bread is the very essence of simplicity. Its only required ingredient is sprouted grain, and you can easily sprout your own. The sprouts are ground to a doughy consistency, shaped into loaves, and baked at very low heat until crusty on the outside but still moist and chewy on the inside. Nothing else is needed: no yeast, sweeteners, flour, oil, salt, and of course, no chemical conditioners or preservatives! You can add other items to the dough (following the recommendations for your blood type) -- chopped fruit, nuts, seeds, or spices -- and they can give exciting new tastes and variety to your breads. But these ingredients are just lagniappe -- nice but not necessary.

Posted by: kauaian, Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 1:39am; Reply: 14
Hi Aesop,
I think I read somewhere, can't remember where but I'm pretty sure it was on this site that when the first book was written, the Ezekiel & Manna breads were made w/ different ingredients.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 4:32am; Reply: 15
as long as wheat is totally sprouted and no added wheat flour is used in the baking, sprouted wheat is fine for Os and others....
if gluten intolerant or celiac, best avoided
Posted by: Pixu, Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 9:31am; Reply: 16
How can I sprout my own grain??'
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 2:50pm; Reply: 17
use a colander and keep hydrated after you soak your grains overnight

use the search feature on this site, for older posts explaining how
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