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Posted by: tessieUK, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 9:28pm
I made some ginger, squash and black bean soup yesterday and blended it with my plastic hand blender whilst it was still hot. When I took the blender out, I noticed the blender had sort of squashed corners, so now I'm worried the plastic had started to melt into the soup. I googled hand blenders and it seems not all are suitable for use in high temperatures.

Im really reluctant to chuck the soup (in fact I am eating some now) because it was a 4 litre pans worth-all organic ingrediants and it took a couple of hours to make. Well basically Im just wandering firstly-how likely it is plastic would have got into the soup and secondly what the bad effects of that could be?

Any responses appreciated.    
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 9:33pm; Reply: 1
plastic isn t rated as food....
;D
only you can know what you wish to do with the soup
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 9:49pm; Reply: 2
I don't think there is adequate data in your post to determine what the probability of danger is...  Without knowing what the plastic formula is, how hot the soup was, how long the blender was in the soup, etc., it is really difficult to analyze the danger in the soup.  

Personally, I would probably not eat it, just because I am still detoxing so many chemicals that I don't need to add more overload to the liver.  I would also not use a plastic mixer in anything hot...  There are people who don't even drink cold water from plastic bottles due to possible problems...
Posted by: shoulderblade, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 10:06pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from tessieUK
When I took the blender out, I noticed the blender had sort of squashed corners, so now I'm worried the plastic had started to melt into the soup


I think that if the plastic looks indented or a little malformed it is a case of the material losing some of its structural integrity due to the high temperature rather than a loss of material. Think of Styrofoam. If you expose it to heat it will warp and condense/melt down without shedding any of its mass.

If there seemed to be chips broken off it would be a different matter not so much from it being plastic but being in the form that could have sharp, solid edges.

I would keep the soup. if it disagrees with you it may just have too much 'squash' in it. ;D

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Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 10:28pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from shoulderblade
I think that if the plastic looks indented or a little malformed it is a case of the material losing some of its structural integrity due to the high temperature rather than a loss of material.

The concern I have here is that there may have been some oils, etc. from the plastic leach into the soup broth...  It may be insignificant, or ???
Posted by: de_nogent, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 10:30pm; Reply: 5
Plastic is full of harmful chemicals like BPA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisphenol_A. However, your organic soup would probably balance out any ill effects. I try to keep plastics away from hot food, especially if you choose to reheat in a microwave. As for bottled water, I wouldn't waste my money on it.
Posted by: shoulderblade, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 10:50pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from ABJoe

The concern I have here is that there may have been some oils, etc. from the plastic leach into the soup broth...  It may be insignificant, or ???


Quoted from de_nogent
I try to keep plastics away from hot food, especially if you choose to reheat in a microwave. As for bottled water, I wouldn't waste my money on it.


Possibly there is a little bit of risk involved here. It is a one time situation and the plastic is probably just made of stable polymers all tangled together but not very resistant to heat.

I am the sort of person who doesn't drink anything from plastic containers, stores everything in stainless steel or glass and certainly keeps hot food away from plastics, if possible. However there are risk/benifit situations where you just have to call it as you see it.

I would keep the soup myself and be careful next time.



Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 11:36pm; Reply: 7
no plastic for me, and no micro for the same reasons.. but if it isstill on issue of feeding you .. as in costly .. then  I guess I would eat it today but not for the whole week,, good luck..
Posted by: Sapphi, Saturday, April 2, 2011, 11:59pm; Reply: 8
oh geez... what a shame!  I think the fact that you are asking about it shows me that you already think it is probably tainted.  Personally, I don't even drink out of plastic bottles anymore unless they have that SEAL of approval and those bottles aren't cheap.  As for your soup, I guess it depends on what degree of "taint" you are willing to tolerate in your food... you bought organic ingredients.  Can you afford to risk your cells?  Can you afford to throw it out?  That's the biggie...
Posted by: Mother, Sunday, April 3, 2011, 12:07am; Reply: 9
I think IF any such plastic leached into the soup, it will be so diluted it won't matter. I would not throw out all that good organic food. You probably have breathed more chemicals since you woke up this morning
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Sunday, April 3, 2011, 12:08am; Reply: 10
Just wouldn't do it on a regular basis :).

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, April 3, 2011, 2:49am; Reply: 11
Quoted from shoulderblade
I would keep the soup myself and be careful next time.
Ditto.

This is also why I only buy blenders with glass containers. Yes, I own a  very sucky blender that only cost me $25 at Target, and it makes "lumpies" rather than "smoothies." But no plastic touches my food when I use it. (I do have some other kitchen equipment, purchased long before, that I will continue to use until they wear out, even though they're plastic. But my newest stuff is the safest I can afford.)

Posted by: tessieUK, Sunday, April 3, 2011, 5:37pm; Reply: 12
ok thanks everyone. Well I had the soup last night and Im still alive and well today...so Il prob finish it. Next time I will definitely wait til food is completely cool before blending.

There is all kinds of chemical things in food and toiletries-its really hard to avoid everything. I can't afford to replace all plastic kitchen equipment/ tuppawares at the moment but i will bear it in mind for the future. I have switched over to all organic (local if poss) fruit and veg- about half of other things i eat (nuts, grains eggs, meat etc are too) also org shampoo, soap and washing up liquid. So Im getting there...
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, April 3, 2011, 6:40pm; Reply: 13
:)
Posted by: Wholefoodie, Sunday, April 3, 2011, 8:17pm; Reply: 14
If it makes you feel any better, I am sure my family ingested some plastic this past Christmas. As careful as I am, using only glass containers, etc. I was shocked to discover the beautiful lamb shanks I prepared for Christmas dinner had a very tight coating of plastic around the base of the bone. It was not noticeable so I did not remove it. When I removed the meal from the oven, I saw hard melted pieces still stuck to the shank. I removed what I could but it was Christmas, so we ate it.

When I said something to the meat manager at the market, she said something ridiculous that I can't remember, acting like it was edible!

Sometimes ya just gotta look the other way!
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, April 3, 2011, 8:45pm; Reply: 15
Plastic is a dangerous xenoestrogen.

http://heartspring.net/plastic_xeno_estrogen.html

I'm with Andrea on this one....don't do this on a regular basis...Make sure not to drink water out of plastic bottles on a regular basis either. It's a conundrum whether to dump a pot of expensive ingredients....but I suppose it depends on your personal health issues.  If I were ill, I'd dump the soup....

I probably think you might want to focus on high calcium d glucarate foods..
Naturally found in fruits and vegetables... and highest in cruciferous vegetables... calcium glucarate is a phytonutrient that helps your body get rid of dangerous chemical toxins and protects your cells from the damaging effects of carcinogens (substances that promote cancer).

Detoxical from Dr. D is another option.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP053
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Monday, April 4, 2011, 1:28am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Lola
plastic isn t rated as food....
;D
only you can know what you wish to do with the soup


I'm sure if it was it would be an "avoid" for all BT's/GT's/Swami's. :)
Posted by: Lola, Monday, April 4, 2011, 5:35am; Reply: 17
specially the microwaved melted kind...... ;D
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, April 4, 2011, 2:25pm; Reply: 18
I do my best to minize my family's exposure to plastic. Mininize, not avoid. I keep on using old kitchen equipment that I've bought a long time ago that isn't broken-  but I won't buy a new blender, food processor, etc that's got a plastic food-holding container. I mostly store foods in  glass (saving empty containers food comes in for this purpose) but I still let DD1 use plastic for packing school lunches. I haven't completely abandoned using plastic food storage bags either- sometimes convenience wins out over health and environment.
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