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Posted by: seagypsy, Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 10:56pm
I came here for a while and investigated the diet and read the forums. I stopped coming here for three reasons. 1. Someone was getting very rich from this diet idea and it wasn't me. 2. there is absolutely no science to back this diet but its more about forming a culture/religion. 3. Every time I came onto these forums it seemed like people were ill. Its so depressing reading about all these sickly problems. Why are you all so ill btw?

Today I heard a news flash on the UK national radio station, warning people about the possible dangers of this diet. Its been a long time coming but lets hope the ball starts rolling from here.

I should think this post will be removed but it matters not because I won't be darkening your doors again.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 11:03pm; Reply: 1
Point 1)  I am not sure where you are getting this. But since you say you are gone, I will not spend my energy debating this issue.

Point 2) Science: http://www.dadamo.com/science.htm

Point 3) I came to the diet because I was ill.  The diet has helped a great deal with my health concerns.
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 11:09pm; Reply: 2
I came to this way of life because I was ill for YEARS.. but you will never read about this as you are gone..

and if ever you get ill you would know where to come to.. but until then, please continue your way of life wherever you feel more comfortable.. we have good reasons for being here.. you may indeed only have visited to spread your thoughts and that is Ok for those who have need to do so.. we who are healing and feeling well have no needs for such postings.. so all the best to you..     8)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 11:24pm; Reply: 3
Point 1: I hope you do stick around to learn, and I'm sorry you have such a negative view of Dr. D'Adamo's work right now. I hope that this thread does not get deleted, and it will serve to educate you, as well as "lurkers" who are reading but not posting. Even if you never change your mind, the questions you raise, and our answers, may help others who read these public posts.

Point 2: True, there isn't enough science yet to "prove" that this works for everybody, but there is lots of science behind all this.  It may take a few more decades before the conventional medical community is satisfied with the level of proof available, but I'm taking control of my health and my family's health NOW.

Point 3: This is true of every website out there. People doing well with whatever the subject matter is (diet, breastfeeding, parenting issues, crafting, etc) don't have much reason to post. Those who need help with something are the ones who do the posting.

I have a chronic health condition. It greatly improved by following the blood type diet, and it improved even more with my personalized SWAMI computer program.  But I still have a lot of healing to do. Sometimes I forget how far I've come and complain that I can't get things done, when I'm already doing so much more than I would have even considered doing pre- BTD.

I also have my children on the BTD, even though they're all healthy. All 3 of them have more stable moods- and I notice the difference when they eat off-plan occasionally. They also don't seem to get sick very often.

Point 4: I'd be very interested in hearing about this "health warning" you heard about on the radio, if it's available as an internet link. I'm sure we could easily debunk the information if we could see what they based this "warning" on.
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 11:44pm; Reply: 4
I bet the one who debunms it has never been on it.. I would bet all I own on that.. and they scream loudly.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:04am; Reply: 5
Quoted from seagypsy
I came here for a while and investigated the diet and read the forums. I stopped coming here for three reasons. 1. Someone was getting very rich from this diet idea and it wasn't me. 2. there is absolutely no science to back this diet but its more about forming a culture/religion. 3. Every time I came onto these forums it seemed like people were ill. Its so depressing reading about all these sickly problems. Why are you all so ill btw?

Today I heard a news flash on the UK national radio station, warning people about the possible dangers of this diet. Its been a long time coming but lets hope the ball starts rolling from here.

I should think this post will be removed but it matters not because I won't be darkening your doors again.



Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:06am; Reply: 6
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warning people about the possible dangers of this diet. Its been a long time coming


must have been crispy cream or other healthy multinationals ;) feeling their sales are precipitously dropping due to people becoming more and more conscious
about what goes in their food nowadays, and taking control of their health!!!

fast food going bankrupt!!!! wouldn t that be a dream come true???? ;D

sorry you have such a poor opinion of this lifestyle we have chosen to follow....
hope you find the lifestyle and health alternative to fit your needs and issues, if you happen to have any

hope you are still a vegetarian and will remain one eternally....
seems to be working nicely for you!!
how s your grandson doing, by the way???

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Why are you all so ill btw?

say that again!!!! ;D
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:19am; Reply: 7
This is just a "no" for now and not a "no" forever.  I'd like you to consider your post as a call to action.  I believe you were not trying to make Dr. D wrong but you are still interested in knowing how the science works.  I hope you hang around and see what happens.  :B
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:32am; Reply: 8
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Posted by: seagypsy
Date Posted: September 1, 2010, 2:51am
Actually, this is where I go full hardheartedly with Dr D theories.
This is about optimizing nourishment not only for your body but for your brain too.
The right diet provides many benefits, including improving learning and memory and helping to fight against mental disorders like depression, mood disorders and even dementia.
Brain fog will hopefully become a thing of the past


are you bipolar by any chance????????  :o
Posted by: kauaian, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:41am; Reply: 9
LOL(funny)(funny)(tongue)Lola you crack me up!
Posted by: grey rabbit, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:01am; Reply: 10
1) I for one sincerely hope Dr. D is very rich from this diet, I know for a fact he is rich in the love he receives from the people he heals.
2) to quote Dr. D (who may have been quoting someone else) Only a fool needs a double blind study to prove it's raining.
3) I'm not sick, I came here because I love the crowd that hangs around here. I went from yo-yo dieting, never quite loosing that 10 to 15 pounds extra I was carrying around to a very happy-with-myself size 4, body fat % of 10, with not really much effort except to follow the plan.
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:28am; Reply: 11
Seagypsy, poor thing!!! .... obviously whatever you have been doing instead of following this path, has been fogging your brain big time!!!  Stick around a bit longer, learn and  persist and you will soon free yourself of those mental conditions that are stopping you to think clearly, mental condition resulting from whatever else is out there ...

There are plenty of us here wanting to help you ...

One thing for sure, if you decide not to stick around and give this a try, you better start saving $$$$, because what your body is exposed to out there and what is on offer to try to fix the damage, will certainly cost you a lot more in $$$ and suffering, than this wholesome, nutrition based according to your uniqueness lifestyle ... To each their own ... is your choice .... ;)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:33am; Reply: 12
I don't believe that Dr. D. is a scammer getting rich off of the gullible.  I can smell that kind of rat from a hundred miles away, and he is not that.  I think if you gave your O BTD a fair chance you'd see the benefits, but that's your choice.  I'm not going to argue or try to convince you.  I'm not sure what axe you're really here to grind, but I hope you are able to resolve whatever is actually bothering you.  Maybe you just need some attention.  Or maybe you ate too much wheat today.  I've notice it makes me paranoid, jumpy, and have strange thoughts.  Seriously, I'm not trying to goad you - I'll bet you ate wheat today.  Hope you feel better soon, seagypsy.
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:50am; Reply: 13
Quoted from seagypsy
2. there is absolutely no science to back this diet but its more about forming a culture/religion.


That is a very inaccurate statement. If you wanted to claim there are no studies behind the diet then I would say yes, that is true. What you are stating is more of an insult to yourself by proclaiming your own ignorance and fortitude towards understanding a diet that you once tried.

Further more I am almost certain Dr. D is not getting filthy rich but by all means go make your own diet that truly has no science behind it and see if you can get someone to publish some couple dozen different books for you. Oh and uh it is no surprise that people with health issues would be attracted to somewhere that is constructed to help solve them. The difference between here and other forums is many people on here have seen great remission of their problems even if they are still faced with more. Not everyone is born as healthy as others; it just happens to be.

The diet requires no strange changes in any way that is not compliant with general nutritional guide lines from any country that has a nutritional advisement program that I have ever heard of at all.

I found nothing on any UK radio station articles about advising of the dangerous. You sound like someone trying to instigate a controlled reaction. Compulsive liars seem to like to try and gather information by setting up lies for people to respond to that might offend them.

I do respect you having skepticism but keep it legit at least. Do a little bit of your own investigation before you start the banter.
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 2:30am; Reply: 14
Aw, SeaGypsy, what a pity. :'(  
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 2:47am; Reply: 15
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I am a perfect example of an O type that follows an A type diet and thrives on it.


:-/

just hit on posts by this member and understand what is behind the resentment.....
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 2:58am; Reply: 16
Thank you for pointing that out.  She needs a good steak and then she'll feel better.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:06am; Reply: 17
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I am a perfect example of an O type that follows an A type diet and thrives on it.


Gosh, how are you able to maintain that...living out there in the middle of the Atlantic and all?

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You sound like someone trying to instigate a controlled reaction. Compulsive liars seem to like to try and gather information by setting up lies for people to respond to that might offend them.  


DOS: It's called "trolling."     
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:46am; Reply: 18
Lola you are funny..  8)
yes I thought so to..  ::)
must be all that sea air that makes her come here again.. for just a moment of clarity ??)..

maybe she meant to add the link to something or other.. but fog made her forget..  :'(

I love to sail with a good sailor.. sunshine and wind.. nice.. 8)

for now she is slim and sexy and has strength and determination .. lets not overlook the right for all to be self righteous..  :o

she might not understand or maybe can't as the mind will not let her.. sometimes we need to hang on to whatever just for 'sanity' to survive the rest..  :X

as for wanting to convert her?? heck NO let's not ever go there.. just honestly pointing out things we know to be so for us is no where near the same as seagypsy 'trying to convert us' to her way of eating.. fish is a good thing and if in the ocean you also eat the liver and brains.. who knows what is in there.. I hope its all top floating fish, nice and clean eating .. happy sailing .. to the next port where surely, she will check in again..  ;D mermaid like..  :D
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:59am; Reply: 19
Quoted from KimonoKat


DOS: It's called "trolling."  


Yes I realize that is possible, maybe just someone trying to tout vegan/vegetarianism with a side of "hard science" and "balance".

I however think discussion over the merits of something as opposed to blind faith is healthy. Unfortunately no one ever brings up good criticism.

Posted by: SandrAruba, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 8:21am; Reply: 20
May I say something?

We have no idea why Seagypsy posted what she did, eventhough in the past she contributed to this board as well. All we can do is, in a calm and rational manner, refute her claims. But let's leave it at that.

Maybe she talked to someone who was more convincing in his opinions... to each his own. We've all have dealt with a situation like this; when you desperately want to try to make someone listen because we all experience the (obvious and proven) benefits of this way of life. But we all know you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

If she wants to return, she's more then welcome, until that time, just let it go.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 8:56am; Reply: 21
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There is MUCH criticism placed here for many things,
..................................................... and some people leave..


People here ask questions and many get answers..

many complain on the rigors of this way of life, and then they chose to support it verbally here, or to slink away..

many have issues and just cant follow this life style and find it hard, find it to hard to follow, they complain and rant and still some stay and make it better for the next one.. no matter who they are.. self proclaimed experts or just mere hungry mortals..  

some find solace in the struggle knowing that without it it they would feel worse..be ill.

the only objections I have is for those who follow the diet half way and then fail to see results, and then blame the diet for their shortcomings.  when I fail it is my failure not the diet.. it is I who eats avoids..  

there is nothing wrong doing this way of life -half way.. but then be honest and express the truth, in defeat or triumph- but never blame the rest of us who have found merit in what was written, researched, experienced, lived with and struggled through.. we learn as we go..

IN AA only 3% make it.. here maybe only 3% make it to stay the course, but 3% is a legion that carries the effort forward and improves upon it, tests a theory, returns for more learning in acceptance of what some offered, while rejecting some other suggestions..

There is NO blind following here, no hero worship, no blind faith, no single believe system, just appreciation for the combined effort of all posters, scientific testers, and the efforts and suggestions made by Lola and Dr D. 8)

It is a place free of any charges, no money made here, no mention of membership for the sake of collecting names, no selling of emails, and no pressure to buy anything.. references to libraries are everywhere.. and no one asks who you are, what you have in your bank or what degree or credentials you have, no one even knows who is what nationality, or religion nor race.. all is discussed and all is reviewed on its own merit, and if something is wanting you get to hear that also..

so criticism, let it keep on coming .. we are alive and well .. despite it all..

as for bad mouthing .. mostly about people and doctors who took from us many dollars and much hope and left us worse of then before..

or about how sorry we are that we can not share this easy with loved ones.. and then we are advised to just allow all INDIVIDUALS be them selves!! including the nay sayers.. who would rather drink the purple cool aid, then think for them selves..

and really some actually do have NO need to feel better- they already do.. so why come here??  8)
Posted by: Dr. D, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 10:42am; Reply: 22
The quality of a community lies in the ability to tolerate all opinions.






Posted by: Aussie, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 10:49am; Reply: 23
Quoted from Dr. D
The quality of a community lies in the ability to tolerate all opinions.


Well said.
Posted by: Dr. D, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 10:59am; Reply: 24
Quoted from Aussie


Well said.


Takes all types. Even ones who darken doors.  :)
Posted by: snazzyshazz, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:16am; Reply: 25
Seagypsy raises an interesting issue...that of free will. It is free will that distinguishes us from all other creatures - we have the ability to choose. Seagypsy has chosen, for now, to abandon what she sees as a fruitless exercise. It is her perfect right to do so. But, please remember that the rest of us have free will, too. No one on this forum or following this way of eating is being forced or co-erced in any way. We are happy to be here, have chosen to be here. Seagypsy, it is not anyone's right to knock another's exercise of their own God-given free will.

Best wishes in your endeavours.
Posted by: SandrAruba, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 12:55pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from snazzyshazz
Seagypsy raises an interesting issue...that of free will. It is free will that distinguishes us from all other creatures - we have the ability to choose. Seagypsy has chosen, for now, to abandon what she sees as a fruitless exercise. It is her perfect right to do so. But, please remember that the rest of us have free will, too. No one on this forum or following this way of eating is being forced or co-erced in any way. We are happy to be here, have chosen to be here.


Oh?? and what was this initiation ritual I went through the first time I got here all about???  

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:14pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from seagypsy
I came here for a while and investigated the diet and read the forums. I stopped coming here for three reasons. 1. Someone was getting very rich from this diet idea and it wasn't me.

What an illogical reason to choose not to follow a diet.  So if someone is earning a living from the work they do, that is a reason for you to discount said work?  Again, that makes no sense.  Sounds like someone is a tad jealous that other people in this world are successful.  Personally, I follow the diet for my own health.  I don't say to myself, wait a minute, am I "getting rich from this diet?"  Oh, I'm not?  Well, forget the whole thing, then!
Quoted from seagypsy
2. there is absolutely no science to back this diet but its more about forming a culture/religion.

Um, there is a lot of science behind these diet theories and this is not a religion.  Dude, I just made a cream cheese spread the other day and no one could talk me out of it, even though it wasn't totally compliant on the diet.  Any diet, by definition, has some rules to it.  What is especially cool, among other things, about the Dr. D diets is that you can choose your level of compliance at any given time, in any given situation, and if you choose, say, to make a cream cheese spread for some reason(s), it doesn't mean you are "off the diet", it just means that you weighed whatever factors YOU, as an individual, in a unique situation, choose to weigh, and determined that it was the right choice for YOU at that time.  That doesn't sound like a particularly dogmatic diet to me.  In fact, it sounds very individualized, customizable and followable/sustainable.  It also does two important things at once:  it provides exquisite guidelines, yet also allows you to make choices within (and sometimes without) them.  This is a lot of freedom and also a lot of responsibility.  It is a very sophisticated, mature diet and community.  True, there is a "culture" here, as there is in any community.  I'm a cultural anthropology and sociology major (got my degree in same), so I know what I'm talking about.  There is no shame in that this community has it's own style and culture (and a mighty wonderful one at that).  We are very diverse and welcome all sorts, too.  If you don't like us, no one is forcing you to stay, OR to leave.  You could stay here and be a dissenting voice if you like.  Anyway, yes, we are a community.  No, we are not a "religion".
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3. Every time I came onto these forums it seemed like people were ill. Its so depressing reading about all these sickly problems. Why are you all so ill btw?

Often, folks look for a healthier diet if they are sick.  So, naturally, some sick folks come here.  Also, if any of us get anything wrong with us, we usually post about it, as this is a very rich (knowledge-wise) community and we all support each other and help each other figure things out, especially in terms of tweaking our individual diets in light of whatever is going on with us.  Again, no shame in that.  It is one of the wonderful things about this community.

Sounds to me like you are a sour grape looking to find fault here.  If you don't like this diet and/or community, that's your right, but you aren't going to succeed in making us feel bad about either one.  I, for one, love both the diet and the community.
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Today I heard a news flash on the UK national radio station, warning people about the possible dangers of this diet.

And the other month I heard the Obama administration announce that 75% to all of the oil from the BP spill was miraculously gone from the Gulf of Mexico a scant TWO WEEKS after the well was capped.  That doesn't make the statement true!

The vast majority of the oil is still in the Gulf.  And this diet is still very healthy.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:36pm; Reply: 28
(Peppermint I knew you had it in you!!!! )

Love and enlightenment to us all.
                                            Happy holidays..  


In my dream this morning I fell in love again, it was fun and entertaining.. no idea who the fellow was, I am just a little sorry I can't make that dream a reality, but for the dreamy fun we had -he and I-, that is going to be real life experience for me, my truth for a s long as I can hang onto it.. dreams have a way of escaping and getting forgotten no matter how hard I want to to hang on to them.. but this dream is my truth today, my alter being, my fun and laughter for today..

I wonder if there is not some place on this planet where we go and live that other life, sometimes coming to believe what we saw, or believe what we where told, just so as to have a life.. a reality to enjoy against all the adds.. I am having such a day THIS morning for another while.. !!!

Maybe others have such days too. ;D
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:41pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from O in Virginia
I don't believe that Dr. D. is a scammer getting rich off of the gullible.


Ok here is a funny story:

A friend of mine went to University of Bridgeport to see Dr. D. As he sat in the waiting room this man came in with a hat on and a half days beard. He thought how nice they let the people come in out of the cold if they need to and don't bother them. He then went upstairs only to learn that the guy with the hat and beard that he thought was homeless.. was Dr. D.

( Dr. D.. yes-- this is what one of my strange friends told me.. :) ;) I laughed and thought he is just very humble. )

He could come in a three piece suit with a whole staff behind him.. but he is humble and sincere, it is too bad that seagypsy can't see that.



Posted by: Dr. D, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:50pm; Reply: 30
Funny story the other day. I've been treating a Hassidic (orthodox Jewish) fellow for a while now for nerve damage due to a fall at a construction site. He is an old-time patient who sends many referrals. We were talking as I was working on his arm and he tells me that 'I say to people don't look for who you think looks like Dr. D'Adamo; that's probably the assistant. Look for the guy schlepping around.'
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:52pm; Reply: 31
;D ;D ;D
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 1:59pm; Reply: 32
See, now I know to look for the guy schlepping around!
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 3:23pm; Reply: 33
NO 'schlepping' means slow lumbering, poor posture.. .. did you ever listen to DrD..he does not sit still and speaks so fast on many subjects that a machine gun could not keep up with him.. POOR Martha.. ha-ha

as for suit and ties.. man- all those brilliant people on wall street, dressed to kill; little did they ever expect to be unemployed because no one was 'in touch' with the self destruction displayed by the arrogance of certain superior minds and talking heads of a few years ago.  They -the suits- destroyed many lives, a way of life/security and well being and some are still doing it even today.

I take DrDs' lanky looks any time.  And he is a vegetarian A.. energetic and a mind beyond many others who speak - at least he knows what he is going on about, trying to make it simple for us mere mortals.... without prejudice.. !  
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 3:52pm; Reply: 34
"Schlepping around" can also refer to a more casual appearance and a lack of attention to fashion details: such as wearing a sweatsuit, baseball cap, and not shaving, vs wearing a crisp shirt and tie under a doctor's coat.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:07pm; Reply: 35
ok so here is another tangent..

religion and mythology.. some would aspire to the first and not agree that it is the second ..

what would hieroglyphs or prehistoric cave paintings or old/ modern day cartouches look like? for DrD's work??

what about making some of our own? some are so computer clever here..
Posted by: SoulfulLori, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:26pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from Dr. D
Funny story the other day. I've been treating a Hassidic (orthodox Jewish) fellow for a while now for nerve damage due to a fall at a construction site. He is an old-time patient who sends many referrals. We were talking as I was working on his arm and he tells me that 'I say to people don't look for who you think looks like Dr. D'Adamo; that's probably the assistant. Look for the guy schlepping around.'


LOL!  Yup...that's true!  He's schlepping around with a mug with green tea in a diffuser.  :)

To Seagypsy...I think most forums have a mix of folk.  I find you get out of any place what you are seeking.  Yes, lots of sick folk here because if you've ever been sick and couldn't find a way to health you will latch onto things that offer hope and work.  There are tons of people here who used to be sick and now years later are helping others work through things.  

BTW...I used to be sick this time last year.  Now, as of one year on the lifestyle plan and after 2 visits to Dr. D I can tell you I am very much healthy and have almost none of the old complaints.  Lord I wished I found this 25 years ago.  However, none of this would be possible if I didn't stick to it and work with it to make it fit my life.  In the beginning it did cost me money via supplements, visits and different ingredients.  Now I am coasting on a choice few supps and I have a regular food bill based on my most healing foods and tasty favorites.  I even can cheat now with minimal damage though I don't choose to do so often because frankly it doesn't taste as good as what I cook.  The only things I am willing to eat off my plan is pizza and Mexican food and that only happens like once a month or so.  

I think this whole experience can be overwhelming frankly and sometimes the folks here in their enthusiasm can be a bit strong.  However, overall I find this to be a source of great information and kind people.  I've made real friends here that I've met IRL too.

Again, I go back to what I originally stated about you find what you seek.  There's a story about a man that goes from village to village wanting to know what the people are like at each place and he keeps finding answers he doesn't like and moves on.  The last place he stops the gate keeper asks what what the village like that he just left.  The man tells a tale of thieves and rotten people.  The gate keeper tells him to keep going because he'd likely find the same thing here.  

You bring yourself everywhere you go.

Best of luck to all.  :)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:29pm; Reply: 37
Well, here's my 1,2,3 take. In case she comes back or if anyone else cares.  ;)

1. My guess is that seagypsy isn't very happy with the amount of money in her checkbook. Begrudging other people to get money in exchange for what they provide that is of value usually tells me that someone has an attitude that repels money from them. I find what Dr. D offers to be of incredible value and even underpriced. (Hope he doesn't read that one.  ;D)

Having mental clarity and processing as opposed to where I was at allows me to make more money myself and help others. This board is free. Many donate their time, most tell you that you can get great results from doing BTD for FREE from the library. (Personally I'm a detail person and a weirdo Explorer so I needed some more specific help.) If someone has illness-- SWAMI. If someone just wants the best for a specific purpose-- SWAMI. I'm a cut through the junk kind of person anyway.

I can understand being skeptical of a greed orientation of big companies, but Dr. D's public life should show you something about his motivation. He could easily be sitting on some island somewhere just relaxing for the rest of his life and from having a best seller, that could have happened many years ago. (He might go nuts doing so.) At some point, you have enough money where more money only enhances your character and your pursuits. Dr. D is a good egg IMO. I've met some other "gurus' I wouldn't care to be around very long. What do you see him doing? Educating, doctoring, researching, writting textbooks, etc. Being who he is. Those greedy textbook writers... (sarcasm)

2. No science. Well, even after reading all the main consumer books and going to see Dr. D, I was skeptical. Went to Tennessee and saw him speak and all the lightbulbs started going off. Check out Eric's video for something most any layperson can "get" and a little more science oriented. If you want to grasp even more check the textbook or the seminar CD's. Supporting people and being supported by people who are interested in the same things that you are rocks. The detailed hard science stuff isn't going to be in a lot of posts, because who has time to give a college education and beyond on a message board? There are people on here whose opinions and info weigh more heavily with me and I would use those as a starting point for inquiry.

3. It's not the healthy that need a doctor, but the ill. So it makes sense that more people that are working with things are here. Still, I do think keeping things positive is a great idea. I find the people on here are looking for answers, not just bemoaning and complaining or wondering what drug to take. Seems like there is more proactiveness and a lot of what is discussed isn't the mainstream stuff you will find on tv. Also, this board is a tiny sample of people, there are many more who aren't here who are benefitting from the work.

Why the heck did I just spend 20 minutes writing this?  :B
Leaving a trail, I guess.
8) Cheers.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:33pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from SoulfulLori

Again, I go back to what I originally stated about you find what you seek.  There's a story about a man that goes from village to village wanting to know what the people are like at each place and he keeps finding answers he doesn't like and moves on.  The last place he stops the gate keeper asks what what the village like that he just left.  The man tells a tale of thieves and rotten people.  The gate keeper tells him to keep going because he'd likely find the same thing here.  

You bring yourself everywhere you go.

Best of luck to all.  :)


Yes, mam. You seek and you find. We have met the nicest people wherever we go. Hey, wait a sec, you're one of them!   ;)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 4:50pm; Reply: 39
Funny stories, homeless schleppy Dr. D.  :D

What I love about this place is that a post like the original one can turn into a thread like this.  You're all terrific.  :)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 5:36pm; Reply: 40
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it is too bad that seagypsy can't see that.


gypsy only has eyes for the sea........ ;D
Posted by: KimonoKat, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 6:05pm; Reply: 41
Quoted from Lola


gypsy only has eyes for the sea........ ;D


It's a big ocean...
Posted by: 11080 (Guest), Thursday, December 16, 2010, 6:09pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from seagypsy
Today I heard a news flash on the UK national radio station, warning people about the possible dangers of this diet. Its been a long time coming but lets hope the ball starts rolling from here.


Your claim of a "news flash" on the "UK national radio station" is a little dubious.  Care to elaborate and give us a link so that we may share in this newfound warning?  This would enable us to all make informed decisions.  Unless you're just making up this latest health warning . . .
Posted by: SquarePeg, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 8:15pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from SandrAruba
May I say something?

We have no idea why Seagypsy posted what she did, eventhough in the past she contributed to this board as well. All we can do is, in a calm and rational manner, refute her claims. But let's leave it at that.

Maybe she talked to someone who was more convincing in his opinions... to each his own. We've all have dealt with a situation like this; when you desperately want to try to make someone listen because we all experience the (obvious and proven) benefits of this way of life. But we all know you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

If she wants to return, she's more then welcome, until that time, just let it go.
I agree.  In fact, I wonder if someone hacked her account?

Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 8:25pm; Reply: 44
why would thy?  

Or could it have been her really just posting her words with the opposite meanings?? being in port somewhere.in a hurry?. could it be??  ........   after all it's the season.. to go over board.. hectic and all..   and what of compassion for the uninitiated?..

This tread was good for us= we re-focused, we re-iterated, we re-invited, and now I am saying >> I am out of here.. happy sailing ..
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, December 16, 2010, 8:46pm; Reply: 45
KK I love all those smilies...:K) ;) ;D

and hey folks remember the beautiful sentences of da Ruiz programs...

1.be impacable with your words.........
2.don't take anything personally.......
3.don't make assumptions...............
4.always do your best..................
5.be sceptical but learn to listen .....


                                    (sunny)(sunny)(sunny)
Posted by: Tom O, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:11pm; Reply: 46
Quoted from 11080


Your claim of a "news flash" on the "UK national radio station" is a little dubious.  Care to elaborate and give us a link so that we may share in this newfound warning?  This would enable us to all make informed decisions.  Unless you're just making up this latest health warning . . .


The original poster is obviously off her meds, but she does seem to have a point in that regard:
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/woman/health/health/3276968/CHERYL-Coles-diet-has-been-slammed-by-health-experts-as-the-worst-celeb-food-regime.html
Posted by: Chloe, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:19pm; Reply: 47
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Quoted from Tom O


Then perhaps we should email the author of that article.. e.morton@the-sun.co.uk and inform
her about the BTD from another perspective..... She's obviously clueless.

The absurdity is that the author slams the BTD in the same context with a maple syrup diet.  I would like
this author to show where she got the statement that the BTD could lead to health problems.   Who has
proven her facts?

"Dieticians warned it could lead to health problems, as users are told to cut entire food groups such as red meat or dairy. The British Dietetic Association also blasted the Hollywood favourite Maple Syrup diet - said to be popular with Naomi Campbell and Beyonce."


OK, I couldn't let this go...I have written to this woman....Here is my letter.

As someone who has followed Peter D'adamo's Blood type diet for 22 years, I know that you seriously have your facts incorrect.  There is nothing about what you said that is truthful...nor do you have any facts straight. I am blood type A and I've thrived on the Blood type Diet for A and have gotten rid of all my food allergies and
have enhanced my health, not harmed it.

Who are the dietitians in your article who have shown that the blood type diet does harm to anyone?  Where is your proof?

You might want to do some research of your own before you start writing articles like this.

You seriously don't know about the Blood Type Diet.

You're welcome to come to the website  http://www.dadamo.com ....and educate yourself.

And then perhaps, re-write your article

Sincerely,
Posted by: Tom O, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:21pm; Reply: 48
OK, not that the original poster would care, but we've been feeding our one and a half year old daughter exclusively according the blood type diet (ER4YB) since she was born (with breast milk during the first 6 months and a mixture of solids and breast milk until she was one year old) and except for a couple of minor colds she has not been sick once. All friends of mine who have kids of the same age have already been to the hospital/to see the doctor numerous times for all kinds of reasons. The proof is in the pudding. Just saying...
Posted by: san j, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:33pm; Reply: 49
Quoted from SandrAruba
May I say something?

We have no idea why Seagypsy posted what she did, eventhough in the past she contributed to this board as well. All we can do is, in a calm and rational manner, refute her claims. But let's leave it at that.

Maybe she talked to someone who was more convincing in his opinions... to each his own. We've all have dealt with a situation like this; when you desperately want to try to make someone listen because we all experience the (obvious and proven) benefits of this way of life. But we all know you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

If she wants to return, she's more then welcome, until that time, just let it go.


My sentiments exactly. If only something like this had been the first response and the thread had ended there! :(

Posted by: grey rabbit, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:37pm; Reply: 50
I really want to thank seagypsy (or whoever may have hacked her account lol) for starting this thread, it has turned positive and has been fun to read.
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:38pm; Reply: 51
Tom O great, you are right we know the proof is in the pudding and our health pudding is good, thanks to Dr D ! I let other wait for further scientific evidences and peer rewiewed literature !
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 9:57pm; Reply: 52
that s good to know Tom.....your baby is doing great! :)
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:52pm; Reply: 53
I think Andrea's story about Dr. D is very telling.

There are all types of people here on the boards.  Some stick around, some don't.  If we treat Seagypsy like a heretic, we do indeed turn the diet into a religion.
Posted by: Harry O, Thursday, December 16, 2010, 11:57pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from Tom O


Haha ,,, if you scroll down to the comments below the story you'll see the 4th poster stated ''another year and another popular diet comes along'' and then calls us all idiots and so i had to laugh as he's insinuating that the BTD just came along this year  :). Speaking of idiot's  ;D
Posted by: DoS, Friday, December 17, 2010, 12:07am; Reply: 55
Yes well there once was a beggar who died with three million dollars in the bank but based on the prices of everything Dr. D sells and including the costs of visits to his clinic it would pretty far fetched to say his goal is to make money. His work is supported by a level of probably comfortable income (maybe more than a lot of people have) but if money was the goal he seems smart enough to acquire it in much larger amounts at the cost of development of work and morals.

Regardless the concern about "rich off my back" is rather funny considering that the government executives in charge of food stuff, RDA, blah blah, typically are or were Monsanto CEO's or some other ridiculous people raping money grubbin enterprise. Who's interest are more in line with yours? I would even say Mercola and Weil care about your health more than the government employees attached to health and food.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, December 17, 2010, 2:12am; Reply: 56
speaking of which
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Monsanto CEO's or some other ridiculous people raping money grubbin enterprise.


just saw this on FB
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gXnL625V9KN022E7m0vwbS0REzuA?docId=CNG.a03843bc6289f00ba74faca28ff52cf9.1e1
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Someone at the White House hasn't read Mary Shelley's Frankenstein.
Posted by: Rex, Friday, December 17, 2010, 1:21pm; Reply: 57
Oh boy...just had to jump in here.  Keeping an open mind has changed my life in such a positive say.  At first I too thought that this is a crazy theory, that blood type has anything to do with how you choose to eat.  Still...I decided to give it a try and am so glad that I did.  "Try it you might like it" applies here.
Posted by: Lin, Friday, December 17, 2010, 1:45pm; Reply: 58
I go to a Board Certified MD who embraces holistic approaches and also an Acupuncturist, and they both have suggested following blood type diet suggestions.
I can't imagine why eating all the healthy food listed would cause health problems.  
I feel there is a lot that makes sense with BTD, and it works for me, but we all have to decide what feels right for ourselves.
Posted by: Lloyd, Friday, December 17, 2010, 3:30pm; Reply: 59
Quoted from AKArtlover

Hey, I have an idea. Lets make some nanoparticles and put them in all sorts of consumer stuff. We can make some money. Where will they end up? Does that really matter? (sarcasm in case you couldn't tell)



Sarcasm aside, nanoparticles hold tremendous medical promise. And not all medicine is bad.  ;)

Posted by: Goldie, Friday, December 17, 2010, 4:20pm; Reply: 60
I just saw Seagypsy - she came to visit twice in SEARCH.. for perch?  

I am glad as to see that she is still in a safe seaport some where.. hope it is in calm seas.. where would that be at this calendar time? what fish are lurking waiting to be caught?..

welcome back.. and stay a while..  8)
Posted by: Lloyd, Friday, December 17, 2010, 4:41pm; Reply: 61
Quoted from Goldie
I just saw Seagypsy - she came to visit twice in SEARCH.. for perch?  

I am glad as to see that she is still in a safe seaport some where.. hope it is in calm seas.. where would that be at this calendar time? what fish are lurking waiting to be caught?..

welcome back.. and stay a while..  8)


Seagypsy has not been back since making the original post in this thread.

Those were other people searching for posts by Seagypsy.

However, this thread can be tracked from outside the forum since this board is available for public search by google bots and various other search engines. So Seagypsy may be watching from afar.  ;)

Posted by: Lola, Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:00pm; Reply: 62
:)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:45pm; Reply: 63
OK, I can see where the original "ack, they said BTD was unsafe on the news" came from.

There is a tiny speck of truth in that article. It's true that As are told to avoid all red meat,and that O non-secretors are told to avoid all  dairy (except for butter and ghee, neither of which contain calcium.) So, from one quick glance, you could come to the premise that "BTD removes whole food groups." If you  beleive that red meat is the only dietary source of iron and protein, and that milk is the only source of calcium, then it's logical to conclude that you risk dietary deficiencies by cutting out either food group. The reality, however, is that all the diets composed by Dr. D'Adamo contain plenty of all needed nutrients, even though  the diets differ widely from one another. So, the claim "it could lead to health problems" is unverified, and there's ample evidence to the contrary.
Posted by: SquarePeg, Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:56pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from Ribbit
I think Andrea's story about Dr. D is very telling.

There are all types of people here on the boards.  Some stick around, some don't.  If we treat Seagypsy like a heretic, we do indeed turn the diet into a religion.
Excellent point, Ribbit.  I'd been thinking along the same lines.  As well, using terms such as "disciple" and "acolyte" to refer to a BTD follower doesn't help.

Posted by: Lloyd, Friday, December 17, 2010, 5:57pm; Reply: 65
Don't forget, the Florida citrus people have waged an advertising campaign for many years that has us all convinced we can't get vitamin C without orange juice.  :D
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, December 17, 2010, 6:00pm; Reply: 66
I still don't "get" why the Florida Citrus people aren't equally pushing grapefruit, lemon, and lime juices.
Posted by: shoulderblade, Friday, December 17, 2010, 6:20pm; Reply: 67
Quoted from ruthiegirl
I still don't "get" why the Florida Citrus people aren't equally pushing grapefruit, lemon, and lime juices.


Keep the message simple. Orange juice = Vitamin C:  Milk = Calcium: Meat = Protein etc. Marketing is simple folk stuff, not rocket science. ::)

Posted by: deblynn3, Friday, December 17, 2010, 6:23pm; Reply: 68
All our (my town) grapefruit comes from Texas. No money in it for Florida
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Friday, December 17, 2010, 6:25pm; Reply: 69
Quoted from ruthiegirl
I still don't "get" why the Florida Citrus people aren't equally pushing grapefruit, lemon, and lime juices.

Gave this some thought and here is what I came up with:

Americans love sugar (actually, all humans are programmed to...but we take it to an extreme  ;D).  Americans will buy sweet things on a regular basis.  Grapefruit juice is not sweet enough for the mainstream American palette, and of course lemon and lime are actually tart.  While there are markets for all three (grapefruit as a "diet" juice/aid and lemon and lime as a condiment), in terms of what citrus juice is the money juice, follow the sugar:  orange you glad you have me to figure these things out?  ;D

(woot)
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, December 18, 2010, 10:08am; Reply: 70
;D
Posted by: Dr. D, Saturday, December 18, 2010, 12:49pm; Reply: 71
I think we've taken this about as far as we can, so I'm locking it and we can all watch it happily descend down the 'active posts' page...
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