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Posted by: dawgmama, Saturday, December 4, 2010, 3:33am
I am a A non-secreter and I am prone to tooth abscesses! Ouch! My last one was about 2 years ago, but I've had about 8 in my life time. Sigh. They seem to pop up when my body is run down, or under a lot of stress. The latest one I've been treating for about a month. 2 rounds of Clindamycin since Nov. 1st, finally a root canal on Mon. I still had pain and swelling so now I am on Zithromax and my face is swollen and  on the affected tooth a yucky bubble has appeared. I am trying to manage my stress, this time it was helping my husband and his mom care for my father-in-law in the end stage of leukemia. He has since passed away, and we are trying to get back to 'normal'. Sigh.

I guess my question is, do any other nonnies battle with tooth abscesses? I brush, I floss, and I'm probably 80% percent compliant. During our time running back and forth during my father-in-laws illness, I probably ate too few veggies, but... I tried. I don't like taking all those antibiotics but.... abscesses can be dangerous. I'm eating yogurt away from taking the antibiotic, but is there anything I can do to speed healing, or prevent these painful abscesses?
Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Saturday, December 4, 2010, 4:44am; Reply: 1
Other than what you are already doing, you might need to improve your gut health by taking probiotics on a regular basis. Polyflora A or something comparable might be in order. Also you could try rinsing your mouth with oil of oregano or oregano leaf extract to keep down mouth bacteria.
Posted by: Vicki, Saturday, December 4, 2010, 5:02am; Reply: 2

I second the recommendation for Polyflora A and also recommend CoQ10.  Veggies and beans/pulses are a good way to get folic acid.  See food sources here:

100% xylitol sweetened toothpaste can be helpful in combating harmful oral bacteria.  
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, December 4, 2010, 5:29am; Reply: 3
Aww poor you!! Yeah polyflora or probiotics to help your immune system - a lot of us nonnies have our weak points that come under attack when our defences go down... ??)

According to one ad (if you believe it :-/) you need to eat 22 pots of yogurt to equal the good effect of one probiotic ??) ;) & if you have any sugar even fruit sugar I think, it negates the limited effect of that yogurt...

Take care & all the best ;)
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, December 4, 2010, 8:32am; Reply: 4
folic acid in your mouth wash daily, helps
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, December 4, 2010, 11:25am; Reply: 5
Dr D told me to use Myrrh.. so please try it for the rest of your mouth.. but I am o.. so I don't know..

but yes your intestines .. and stress is a choice.. breath and become grateful for what you have and stress will dissipate soon enough..
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, December 4, 2010, 1:46pm; Reply: 6
I tried myrrh,  but it didn't do anything for me...since I begunn with the intake of a lower dosae of olive leafs 150mg's every 2 hours, my toothaches and probs are gone.... ;D(smarty)(ok)(dance) but anyway I've to undergo the operation soon :-/ can't last likewise...we've to combat the problem at the racine ;) ;D...
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, December 4, 2010, 3:34pm; Reply: 7
recurring tooth abscesses.. has little to do with the teeth.. abscessed teeth need root canal or pulling.. waiting is dangerous and costly and serves no purpose.

having said that.. it should have never come to that.. do the work of root canal as soon as HEAT increases pain and cold decreases pain.. that is the test.. what also is a problem though, is that you think it's one tooth but it could be a whole side that is infecting .. and often the other side a little later..

infections come when the immune system is weakened to the point of festering.. then closing then fester until it turns gangrene..

lucky.. in the mouth we at least feel it sooner and can react to it.

The only other issue I have is with implants.. I personally have done poorly with them .. I would never advise anyone to do them in the front where a smile would show what gum issues can be like... mine don't show so I was and am lucky.. but the pain is something else..

so antibiotic is what I would do until the infection is settled down, then go see the dentist or dental surgeon and deal with it.. waiting does not make it cheaper.. nor better..  :-/  
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Saturday, December 4, 2010, 3:52pm; Reply: 8
ARA6... and probiotics...
Posted by: dawgmama, Sunday, December 5, 2010, 12:31am; Reply: 9
Thanks everyone for the good wishes and good advice. I will head to the hfs for some probiotics and stuff.

Goldie, are you saying I shouldn't have waited till now for the root canal, that I should have had it right away in November, when I had my first round of antibiotics? I've been on antibiotics now with a short break, since November 1st. The pus bubble has since burst (YUK), and the swelling may have gone down a bit, but now the tooth is kind of loose. I'm thinking just pull it, but you know dentists, they always try to save the tooth. However, every time I've had an abscess, and then finally the root canal and crown, it always re-abscesses, and I end up getting it pulled anyway. Grrrrr...

As for saying stress is a choice. You are right. I tried to breathe, I prayed a lot, I vowed to not be a part of drama, but.... sigh, watching a loved one die is still a shock to the system and trying to fit work in between traveling 3 hours up north every 3 days still takes it's toll. We didn't get much sleep, and when I did, I know I was clenching my teeth, and I think that is what forced the bacteria deep into my tissues. I'm trying to rest and improve my resistance now.

Thanks again! ~nan
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Sunday, December 5, 2010, 1:15am; Reply: 10
For a non secretor I think the bt specific probiotics are even more important.

Please consider buying the polyflora A.. I do believe that anything else is like throwing money in the toilet. :-/ :X
Posted by: dawgmama, Sunday, December 5, 2010, 2:44am; Reply: 11
Done- Andrea! I just splurged on the Polyflora A. I figured I've done a fair amount of damage to my gut with all the antibiotics, and I don't want to go into the cold and flu season run down and vulnerable!It sounds like a really good product. I don't want to have to eat "20 pots of yogurt"  :) Thanks~nan
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, December 5, 2010, 3:15am; Reply: 12
A few months ago, I even started making my own yogurt with my Polyflora.  It makes great yogurt and my gut has never been happier.  I still take the supplement last thing before bed and sometimes first thing upon waking.
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Sunday, December 5, 2010, 3:26am; Reply: 13
I have struggled with them my whole life. I had one recently and knew there had to be a better way to heal myself of these.

When I am as compliant as I can be (eating lots of veggies) I don't have any teeth pain or sensitivity. I have realized that I am also vitamin/mineral deficient and as I take the right thing I feel better and better.

In general... eating a lot of yogurt can be hard on my system as I find it makes me really mucusy and mucus means acid and acid means tooth decay.

Someone on another thread shared with me that there is a natural way to heal your teeth and send me to this website. I have been reading it and getting the e-mails... it's been so helpful.

I take Coenzyme Q10 and totally agree with everyone else on the Polyflora. I have also been doing transdermal magnesium (because it's the very best way to get magnesium) as 80% of the world is deficient in it. But definitely check out that website. It has really really helped me. I would also get swami'd and see if you need ghee. I have ordered some and that website will tell you that you need it. If you don't for your BTD/GTD that just ignore it.

Oh... and the tooth that was absessed that the dr told me would cost me over 300 to get it fixed.... well it doesn't hurt at all and I feel great!
Posted by: dawgmama, Sunday, December 5, 2010, 3:34am; Reply: 14
Thanks Victoria and Christa. I wonder if I can make soy or almond yogurt with the Polyflora A? I will take a look at that site. I know I wasn't eating enough veggies during the time we were traveling so much when my father-in-law was ill. My body is really sensitive to neglect!

Glad to hear your tooth is better Christa! Wish mine was. Sigh! ::)

And... ha! I just took a double batch of ghee out of the oven! How funny is that? I haven't been home a weekend since Aug. and haven't made ghee since then, and tonight I had the house to myself, and... my body must have been craving it. Interesting!
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, December 5, 2010, 7:05am; Reply: 15
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I wonder if I can make soy or almond yogurt with the Polyflora A?

absolutely :)
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Sunday, December 5, 2010, 7:57am; Reply: 16
Awesome! Ghee it up! lol
Posted by: dawgmama, Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 4:21am; Reply: 17
Well, I went back to the dentist today. We decided to pull the affected tooth. It was already loose, so..... Two of the roots had already degraded, and it ends up that about 2mm of 'pulp'(?) had not been reached with the little file thingie on Monday during the root canal. That is why I still had pain and swelling. My root narrowed down at the point where he 'missed', so I can see why it appeared that we were done. I'm glad to be rid of it! My dentist always wants to "save the tooth if we can", but both with him and other dentists, I always end up with an abscess there again. I am ready to feel better. I've been battling this too long.

Looking forward to receiving my Polyflora A, get getting my tummy healthy again as well.

Thanks for all your advice~nan
Posted by: Vicki, Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 5:10am; Reply: 18
You'll enjoy the Polyflora!  CoQ10 can be helpful in healing the empty spot where the tooth was.  Will your dentist be able to help you with a bridge to keep the other teeth from being weakened?  All the best to you!  
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