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Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 7:56pm
I'm entering info into my SWAMI and I'm not sure whether to choose western european or northern european...or central european???

My ancestors were from...

England
Scotland
Ireland
Norway (I think)
Germany
France
Switzerland
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 7:58pm; Reply: 1
north European might be in order, no?
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 8:00pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Lola
north European might be in order, no?

I think so, but are Germany, France & Switzerland considered north?
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 8:01pm; Reply: 3
Can you run it both ways, and see if there are any differences?
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 8:02pm; Reply: 4
in whole, yes, since so much of your E is toward the north.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 8:08pm; Reply: 5
Thank you both!  :)
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 8:34pm; Reply: 6
I've had similiar questions.  Try this map:

northern Europe:  http://www.luventicus.org/maps/europe/northerneurope.html

southern Europe:  http://www.luventicus.org/maps/europe/southerneurope.html
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 8:42pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Victoria
I've had similiar questions.  Try this map:

northern Europe:  http://www.luventicus.org/maps/europe/northerneurope.html

southern Europe:  http://www.luventicus.org/maps/europe/southerneurope.html

Thanks, Victoria.  :)  According to your map, France is western Europe, and Switzerland is central.  All the rest are northern europe.  I entered northern europe and what do ya know...I came up as an Explorer.  

Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 8:59pm; Reply: 8
Does the diet feel like a good fit for you?

How would it change if you entered something different?  Some of the countries on that particular map seem to be considered two things, such as Central Europe, and Western Europe.  Or Northern and Central

I've got Amsterdam, Scotland, Bavaria and Native American for the 4 grandparents, a few generations removed for all, except the Native, which was my paternal grandmother's mother.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 9:08pm; Reply: 9
:-/
Quoted from Victoria
Does the diet feel like a good fit for you?

How would it change if you entered something different?  Some of the countries on that particular map seem to be considered two things, such as Central Europe, and Western Europe.  Or Northern and Central

I've got Amsterdam, Scotland, Bavaria and Native American for the 4 grandparents, a few generations removed for all, except the Native, which was my paternal grandmother's mother.

I was wondering how you would account for a wide diversity, like what if you're bi-racial, or southern european and northern european...how do you make a selection?   :-/
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 9:27pm; Reply: 10
When I posted my question a few months ago, Lola suggested that I enter native American because it is the most recent ancestor's origin.  All the others are more generations removed from me.  That's the best suggestion I could come up, unless one of the admins has some insight into it that I don't know yet.   ;)

Otherwise, the best bet is to try all possible options and see how much difference it makes in your swami's recommendations.  Then . . I dunno!  (dizzy)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 9:42pm; Reply: 11
Most recent makes sense.  Unless they are equally recent.  I imagine inputting DNA haplogroup/type info would be of benefit.

I've played with it a few different ways, and it keeps coming out explorer with similar if not identical (I haven't compared them all side by side) dietary recommendations.  I don't see any percentage of explorer, gatherer, etc.  Where do people see that?
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:08pm; Reply: 12
When I input my mitochrondrial haplogroup it altered my percentage of Hunter - so it does indeed make a difference.  

What % Explorer did you come out O?

Andy  8)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:10pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from Munchkin76
When I input my mitochrondrial haplogroup it altered my percentage of Hunter - so it does indeed make a difference.  

What % Explorer did you come out O?

Andy  8)


Ah, that explains it!  As you were posting this, I modified my post above yours.  I don't see any percentage, but I din not input mitochondrial info because I don't have it.  Maybe that's why I don't have a percentage?  Or else I'm blind and can't see it.
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:19pm; Reply: 14
If you run the full report and let SWAMI determine your Genotype - it should have a percentage on circa page 3?  It says at the top 'what makes you a GTx x' and it has a bar with a percentage underneath.  I've always had it - even before I had my DNA done.  In fact, I've just changed my info to say 'Northern European' based on what you've said above and now I've gone from 56% Hunter to 60% Hunter!  Wow!

Andy  :D
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:21pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from Munchkin76
If you run the full report and let SWAMI determine your Genotype - it should have a percentage on circa page 3?  It says at the top 'what makes you a GTx x' and it has a bar with a percentage underneath.  I've always had it - even before I had my DNA done.  In fact, I've just changed my info to say 'Northern European' based on what you've said above and now I've gone from 56% Hunter to 60% Hunter!  Wow!

Andy  :D


Ok, I'll try that and look again. Thanks, Andy.  This is fun.  :)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:25pm; Reply: 16
I know!  Let us know how it goes!!
Posted by: O in Virginia, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:30pm; Reply: 17
Not finding it, Munchkin.   :-/
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 10:40pm; Reply: 18
Okay, so right at the bottom of the input page where you've put all your information under C: Preferences - select 'NO' in the 'Print Abbreviated Diet Report' and then where it says 'Where would you like to go' select 'Save and prepare to Print Diet Report' and click the big buttonw to save the Swami Xpress Profile and Continue.

Then click on the Print Diet Report graphic at the bottom.

On subsequent pages it'll have:

Welcome to SWAMI Xpress

What Is a GenoType?

GenoType and Blood Type: What’s the Difference?

Welcome to SWAMI Xpress

The Hunter GenoType (in my case specifically)

What Makes You a GT1 Hunter: - again in my case specifically, for me followed by:

Calculator Choice: Using Standard GenoType Calculation Tools.
Results

The six GenoTypes described by Dr. D'Adamo are very broad characterizations; no individual is purely one GenoType. Since many of the GenoType characteristics overlap, most people will have aspects of at least two or more GenoTypes. However SWAMI Xpress uses powerful statistical tools to calculate which single GenoType best captures the highest degree of your unique variation.

Your results: 60 % of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT1 Hunter profile.



Interpretation: Strong Association with GT1 Hunter

There a high degree of your of your epigenetic variation encapsulated within this GenoType. Following these guidelines for this GenoType should have a highly significant dietary effect on healthy genetic expression.

Can you see it?????  ??)

Andy  :D

Gotta go to bed now, but will look forward to catching up on where you're at tomorrow morning before I go to work..... tres excitement!!

A
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, December 2, 2010, 11:52pm; Reply: 19
Allow Swami to calculate your Genotype everytime you produce the report.  You will find your Genotype inventory with the percentage around page four of the report ...

When you find it, let me know if your ethnicity is part of the inventory (what makes you a explorer) ... exicting stuff this Swami X ... even months on I still find new things ... and understand better as I progress in this journey ...  :)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Friday, December 3, 2010, 12:16am; Reply: 20
I've got it now, Andy.  I wasn't selecting "No" for running the abbreviated report in Section C.  Thank you again.

Cristina, yes ethnicity plays a part in determining SWAMI during the strength testing in the 2nd pass.  I have mine set for Western European right now (36% Explorer).  I will try again with Northern European and see what I get.

Thanks, everybody.  :)


Adding...just ran it with northern european ethnicity and got 35% explorer.  I wonder what the other percentages are.   ??)   I think I have a lot of Gatherer, too.  Does SWAMI put the overlap with other genotypes into the mix?
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, December 3, 2010, 1:39am; Reply: 21
SWAMI considers your total profile when making food selections not just the characteristics that happen to match the standard Explorer profile.

Most people when they look at the recommendations find significant differences from the diets in the books.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Friday, December 3, 2010, 2:14am; Reply: 22
;D
Quoted from C_Sharp
SWAMI considers your total profile when making food selections not just the characteristics that happen to match the standard Explorer profile.

Most people when they look at the recommendations find significant differences from the diets in the books.

Yes, the diets in the GT book were much more restrictive than SWAMI, I can see that as I read and... *explore*.   ;D
Posted by: Lola, Friday, December 3, 2010, 4:22am; Reply: 23
percentage
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1249043756/

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1248042403/

Quoted Text
Dr D
the percentage is not how much 'you' are 'it'.

The percentage is a measure of how much 'it' is 'you.'
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