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Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Saturday, November 20, 2010, 11:37pm
Hi Everybody.  I haven't posted for a while but I am still following the BTD.  

The problem is with my husband, an O hunter.  He had been having some rectal bleeding which the doctor thought was hemorrhoids.  He scoped him and cauterized a rhoid but the bleeding did not stop so he did a colonoscopy and found a 2.7cm cancer at the top of his rectum. Other tests show it has not spread anywhere else and he is getting low dose chemotherapy 5FU 24 hours a day via a PIC line connected to a fannypack holding the pump. And they are radiating the tumor 5 days a week.  He is to do this for 6 weeks, then 6 weeks recovery time, then laproscopic surgery to remove about 8 inches of his colon and rectum.  This seems like overkill to me but everyone chooses their own treatment and the doctor told him this should take care of it for good. He just completed his first week with no side effects except a little fatigue but he is still working and then driving an hour each way for radiation every day so who wouldn't be tired.  

He has also been to see two ND's for support. On can do IV therapy.  He hasn't told us what that could be.  
They have him on:
Nanogreens
Inulin
Probiotics

I have him on Floradix to keep his RBC count up.  

He's taken arnica after they put the PIC line in and takes Nux Vomica when he gets home from treatment.  He's also on ionized water and I spray his back with 11.5 alkaline water to help prevent skin breakdown since another ND said it is good for any injury that has redness and swelling.  

One ND gave him a brief BTD page telling him to avoid all grains (which I have been trying to help him avoid for years ;)So he is eating mostly Hunter compliant meat fruit and veggies.

I was hoping to refine his diet even more with the SWAMI program.  Can I use it for more that one person and does it have questions about whether you have cancer?  

I believe this cancer is environmental.  He was working in Portland, OR for the BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs) last year and basically eating whatever he wanted cause I wasn't around and he traveled a lot for that job.  100% of the people who worked in his office have gotten cancer.  It is on the 8th floor and there was a huge microwave tower right outside his window!  They had an environmental hygiene team come in and surprise! they pronounced it safe!  He started the bleeding while working there but has recently transferred back to our home town thank goodness.  

Any suggestions and any input about Swami would be appreciated! Mostly I want to protect him form the effects of chemo and radiation.    

Diane
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 12:06am; Reply: 1
Just in case you were not familiar with it, I thought I would mention the cancer book:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED064S
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 12:16am; Reply: 2
Thanks.  :) I thought about that but wondered if SWAMI would give even more specific information.  
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 12:47am; Reply: 3
SWAMI will give you a more customized diet, if you put all the information in.

The professional version available to practitioners allows for entries about drugs currently taken and many other factors that cannot be input in the Xpress edition.

So you may want to consider it.

What the book does which the software does not do is explain the treatment process and nutritional approaches to combating cancer.

In the software you cannot tell whether a superfood is superfood because it will help you loose weight,  prevent coronary heart disease, or treat cancer.

Superfoods in the cancer book are superfoods for dealing with cancer.

The book also gives protocols for treating cancer, the software does not.
Posted by: yaeli, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 12:49am; Reply: 4
Hi Mrs. Rodgers,

Quoted from Mrs. Rodgers
Can I use it for more that one person
Swami is strictly personal.

Quoted from Mrs. Rodgers
and does it have questions about whether you have cancer?
It certainly does, and it gives you special Geno Harmonic Foods recommendations accordingly.

Quoted from Mrs. Rodgers
Mostly I want to protect him form the effects of chemo and radiation.
You'll find the protocols in the cancer book.

Good Luck  :K)

Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 12:58am; Reply: 5
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Can I use it for more that one person and does it have questions about whether you have cancer?  


it is a one person use only license, and yes, you click on the cancer box.....

would making an appointment at the shift be doable?
https://www.bridgeport.edu/pages/4412.asp
ask for the Personalized Medicine Shift moved to Mondays
http://www.drpeterjdadamo.com/UB_shift/
Bridgeport is north of NYC.
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:30am; Reply: 6

Where do I find the professional version?  I am an RN if that is professional enough!

Thanks for all the good information.
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:33am; Reply: 7
Thank you Yaeli.  I will be sure to get the book.  
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:33am; Reply: 8
IFHI Masters run swami pros in their practices......

check the IFHI registry to find one possibly near you, or think of visiting Dr D himself at the shift......less cost than at his clinic directly.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:34am; Reply: 9
Quoted from Mrs. Rodgers


Where do I find the professional version?  I am an RN if that is professional enough!

Thanks for all the good information.


Training in the use of the software and certification by the Institute for Human Individuality are both recommended before using the professional version.

The Xpress version is designed to be used without training on the software and the GenoType diet.

Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:36am; Reply: 10
I am concerned about all he is getting.. If it is to late to make changes then dont read further as I do not wish to upset you..
mom had rectal cancer.. they operated immedictly  .. and then discovered other tumors in her colon..

then they operated on her colon and basically she was fine.. never needed chemo or anything else.. she was 80.. then ..

the issues I have is MY understanding that radiation might be ok as long as it is extreemly local .. but my issues is that I thought once they radiate the larger area then they can not really operate except to take it out.. meaning the area around is damaged to..  so for his rectum does he need to lose it?

taking out the tumor in my mind would have been quicker.. why did they not just remove it.. ?

he will need good rest to heal the scares..  so he will not make adhesion scar tissue after the operation.. drink much fluid at the beginning .. before and after surgery..

The cancer book for before and afterwards is a good thing IT is on easy read for your husband to learn what he can do and how he can help him self..

To bad he could not go to bridgeport before all the raduiation.. but then it takes much effort to make that decision.. .. .

ONE of the good things is a connection to  

http://www.caringbridge.org/visits

for communicating with others that will save you strength..

all the best.. (if you have personal questions feel free to email me.. )

my mom lived 11 years longer ..


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I believe this cancer is environmental.  He was working in Portland, OR for the BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs) last year and basically eating whatever he wanted cause I wasn't around and he traveled a lot for that job.  100% of the people who worked in his office have gotten cancer.  It is on the 8th floor and there was a huge microwave tower right outside his window!  They had an environmental hygiene team come in and surprise! they pronounced it safe!  He started the bleeding while working there but has recently transferred back to our home town thank goodness.


This is to sad for all who work there and are getting ill.. I wonder how many people need to get ill before they close the office down..  
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:37am; Reply: 11
I already tried getting him to the BTD Clinic.  He is resistant to that so I am trying to do what he will accept.  But maybe I should go cause I'm sure he'll survive the cancer being an O and as an A I will just keel over from the stress!
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:38am; Reply: 12
IT IS IMporant to make Doctors do finger rectal exams for everybody as the colonosccopy may not detect any problems in the rectum..  
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 1:41am; Reply: 13
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But maybe I should go


best choice ever!!! :)
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 2:21am; Reply: 14


"taking out the tumor in my mind would have been quicker.. why did they not just remove it.. ?"  (can't remember how to use the quote button)  

This is supposedly the new way to treat cancer.  Shrink the tumor and kill the cancer cells before cutting is supposed to be better.  Beats me why they are doing this.  I keep thinking thoughts like the economy is down and they need patients with good insurance!  His friend just had a cancerous colon tumor removed as your mother did without any other treatment and is cancer free a year later.

But he has made his decision. His doctor says rectal cancer is more serious than colon and yes he will be able to keep his rectum.

You are not upsetting me.  You have not brought up anything I have not been considering.  His choice is what is upsetting me and I just want to help him the best I can with this choice and try to accept his choice . He's already being radiated.

I was treated by a brilliant ND when I had cancer 20 years ago and what freaks me out is that he used to tell me it was very difficult to help people who had gone through chemo and radiation because it destroys their immune system. And I had a friend that went through all this and then kept getting infections and every time she was put on antibiotics her tumor markers shot back up, and they did more chemo until she died from heart failure, not cancer! Another side effect of chemo.  

So thanks for your support and also being concerned about all he is getting.  



Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 2:30am; Reply: 15
http://www.dadamo.com/ifhi/csvsearch.pl?search=Oregon&order_by=Last_Name&order=abc

According to the Registry, there are 3 N.D.'s in Oregon who are licensed to use the SwamiPro.

When I went through cancer 8 or 9 years ago, I had chemo and radiation and worked with Dr. David Bove N.D. as an adjunct to the treatment.  I came through it fine, and with the strong support of Dr. D'Adamo' Cancer Book, I ate 100% superfoods and diamonds.  Later on, I followed only the genotype program.

It is possible to rebuild ones' health and immune system.  There are no simple answers when it comes to something like this.  Just support his choice and provide for the best possible foods and supplements.  Keep the home environment cheerful and optimistic.
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 2:54am; Reply: 16
Thank you for your balance Victoria, little miss B, ;) and the link to the ND's.  I will try not to go down that worry path since it does no good anyway for either of us.


  
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 4:15am; Reply: 17
Just want to add my thoughts here - although I have nothing new to add but my support(pray)
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 4:24am; Reply: 18
Thank you Possum.
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 4:30am; Reply: 19
You are so welcome Mrs R ;)
Posted by: jayneeo, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 6:10am; Reply: 20
seems like Intrinsa would be indicated!!! Blessings to you both!
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, November 21, 2010, 10:30am; Reply: 21
and add some salvestroles as well... about 2-4'ooo units daily.. (pray)(smile)wish you all the best ...greetings from Switzerland
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, November 21, 2010, 12:26pm; Reply: 22
and here also check his feet and make sure he has no nail stuff going on.. or if he does then make him clean all he can to strentghten his immune system.. inside and out..from the bottom up..using oils if need be, as they clean the skin and under nails..

he will do fine as they are doing many such surgeries now a days..

but adherence to Super and Beneficials will make all the difference..
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Monday, November 22, 2010, 3:04am; Reply: 23
Thank you for all your suggestions.  That is what I was looking for.  Intrinsia, Salvesteroles and clean feet! Will do!  And thank you Goldie for your encouragement.  
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, November 22, 2010, 3:45am; Reply: 24
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/index.htm
In the Encyclopedia, Dr. D recommends the following protocols for type O with colon cancer.  Perhaps they would be relevant in your husbands' case also:

Cancer Prevention
Chemotherapy Adjunct
Intestinal Health
Post Surgery
Chronic Illness Recovery

They would not be all followed at the same time, but as they become relevant in his own timing.   :K)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 22, 2010, 5:45am; Reply: 25
Healing thoughts towards your husband and you in these difficult situation ... (pray) and big (hug) to you!
Posted by: yaeli, Monday, November 22, 2010, 6:03am; Reply: 26
Quoted from Lola
Johannah Budwig s blend has the
proper amount of EFA’s with the proper amount of sulfured
proteins as quark/cottage-cheese etc
http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Budwig.html  ?

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1290139313/

8) :K)



Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Monday, November 22, 2010, 6:12am; Reply: 27
Thanks Victoria for the reminder.  I have checked out the protocols and have my list and will be getting more good things for my hubby tomorrow. I have also ordered 2 SWAMI programs, Intrinsia and Dr. D's cancer book (after getting my daughter to sign up for shareright).  

Diane  
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, November 22, 2010, 6:33am; Reply: 28
Blessings to you and your family.  (smile)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, November 22, 2010, 4:02pm; Reply: 29
((HUGS)) I'm sorry your family is going through this. I wish your husband a speedy and full recovery.
Posted by: Jane, Monday, November 22, 2010, 6:25pm; Reply: 30
Nothing to add but just my support and ((((HUGS)))) as well.
Jane
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Thursday, November 25, 2010, 5:01am; Reply: 31
Thank you everybody for your support.  :K)

We just went to the oncologist and my husbands red blood cell count was 47 when he started chemo (excellent for a guy who has had blood in his stool for months.  I do have him mostly on a hunter BTD.)  Anyway it dropped to 44 after a week of chemo and 2 long nose bleeds Sunday night so the Doc said we could shut off the chemo today, Wednesday, and resume it on Monday since the chemo is only to help the radiation target the tumor better, and no radiation over the holiday.  Who knew cancer takes the holidays off! :o He said they just left the 24hr IV on over the weekend (he is not radiated on the weekends) for convenience! Whose I wonder?  So I asked my husband to ask his doctor if they could train me to disconnect his chemo each weekend and his doctor agreed.  So that makes me feel batter and was a great relief to him. They showed me today and it is a piece of cake.  At least he gets a breather and I can work on building his blood over the 4 day weekend so hopefully it will not drop drastically this week. And he is going fishing and camping on Friday so being on the river should also be healing for him. BRRRRR.  Crazy Hunter! ;)

I got the flax seed oil and organic cottage cheese today because they muscle tested extremely strong for him so I will add that to his support. Thank you so much for that suggestion Yaeli. He is  also now on turmetic and mixed E tocoperols and oryza tocotrienol from rice bran, all from a Japanese product which also tests extremely strong for him.

Curiously he tested strong for black walnut leaf tea before he started treatment but once he started chemo, he tested weak for it.  We will see this weekend if he needs it when the chemo is off.  Black walnut leaf tea is supposed to be good for the GI mucous membranes. I tested him for many of the suggestions on the protocols today and he didn't really need them but maybe later.

Tonight he enjoyed baked brie with apple slices, turkey soup with just turkey and veggies, portabella mushrooms sauteed with garlic and lots of ghee,and red wine.  We were happy campers in spite of what is going on!  

Thank you for all your suggestions prayers and hugs.  They have truly helped me to find what he needs and keep my balance.

Love,
Diane  

  
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Thursday, November 25, 2010, 5:15am; Reply: 32
Quoted from Amazone I.
and add some salvestroles as well... about 2-4'ooo units daily.. (pray)(smile)wish you all the best ...greetings from Switzerland


Thank you for this fascinating suggestion Amazon.  I googled salvestroles and it makes so much sense so I went out to my garden and picked the bug chewed on swiss chard for dinner! Tomorrow the chewed on beets! I forgot to look for salvestroles today but will be eating more organic and seeing if I can find some in a bottle to test soon.  :)

Posted by: Lola, Thursday, November 25, 2010, 5:36am; Reply: 33
Quoted Text
Polygonum Cuspidatum, a member of the buckwheat family, contains resveratrol, which has been shown to demonstrate antioxidant and anti-inflammatory activity

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP034
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, December 13, 2010, 12:50am; Reply: 34
Mrs. Rodgers!  I've missed you!  Wow, it's been a long time.  I'm so sorry to hear about everything that's been going on. :-/
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Monday, December 13, 2010, 4:49am; Reply: 35
Quoted from Ribbit
Mrs. Rodgers!  I've missed you!  Wow, it's been a long time.  I'm so sorry to hear about everything that's been going on. :-/


Thanks Ribbit.  I was thinking that I quit posting when the genotype book came out and I decided not to buy into that new site. Looks like the genotypes and Swamis are posting here now.

SWAMI typed me as an Explorer! and my hubby as a Gatherer (61%!)  I think it nailed him since he was scrawny when I met him at 21 years old and right after that he started gaining weight. I never understood that until now, that Gathers often don't put on weight until they stop growing.

Week 4 of chemo and radiation completed.  Two more weeks to go.  

Everyone's suggestions and the genotype diet appear to be helping. He is still working and recreating. His ND took him totally off grains and he is really sticking to that.  He skipped two mornings of his supplements (late for work) and it kicked his butt! I told him I guess he had to learn how much they were helping.  He has actually gained weight during his chemo and radiation!  His appetite remains good. I encourage him to eat. He said he never thought he would hear me saying that.  He gets tired but who wouldn't?

The skin on his scrotum has darkened from the radiation. Sometimes reddened. A little itching too but he does a sitz bath in 11.5 alkaline restructered water (high in antioxidants) and that brings relief. (He also rinses his mouth with this water and any sores are gone the next day.) This is the time skin breakdown occurs with radiation so I am just praying that we can keep that to a minimum.

He had some diarrhea and the diet they gave him to prevent diarrhea was atrocious.  White bread, pudding, no fresh fruit or vegetables except iceberg lettuce.  It went in the trash.  He took some antidiarrheal meds and he said the constipation was worse that a little bit of diarrhea! We don't want to stop any detox unless we have to if his rectum gets irritated but so far so good.  

I am more at peace about his choices but sometimes when I go with him on his appointments it seems like cancer is everywhere.  It's creepy. People drinking soda and eating cookies as they get their chemo! My friend said the doctor probably prescribed the soda for them. (You see why she is my friend!) Lots of B12 has given me more energy and a better attitude.  

And Ribbit, to keep my hand in the baby business, I was my niece's doula last month and we had a beautiful natural birth at the hospital.  A long latent phase, dilation finally (most of the time spent in the tub) with no meds and 4 hours of pushing!  Whew! But Hazel came out wide eyed and went straight to the breast and is doing beautifully.  And my niece is very empowered but thinking Hazel may be an only child!  

Two days later my daughter's friend called saying she was in labor.  Another long difficult labor with a posterior baby.  She also labored in the tub without meds.  Finally, baby turned, she was complete and the hospital midwife told her to get out of the tub to have the baby but she yelled "NO! SHE'S COMING" and there she was! :o A beautiful hospital waterbirth!  The nurse turned to me and said, "So much for waterbirths not being allowed at this hospital."  :) The miracle of life goes on.  



  
Posted by: Lola, Monday, December 13, 2010, 5:03am; Reply: 36
:)
Posted by: Possum, Monday, December 13, 2010, 5:06am; Reply: 37
So glad things are going as well as they are... ;)
Had to smile at one part of your post though...
"...he does a sitz bath in 11.5 alkaline restructered water (high in antioxidants) and that brings relief. (He also rinses his mouth with this water* and any sores are gone the next day.)" *Hopefully not with the bath water ??)
If this is in poor taste I apologise & will delete... ;)
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Monday, December 13, 2010, 5:16am; Reply: 38
HaHa. You made me laugh Possum.  I need an editor!
Posted by: Lola, Monday, December 13, 2010, 6:43am; Reply: 39
who needs an editor if you ve got a Possum!! ;)
Posted by: Possum, Monday, December 13, 2010, 7:01am; Reply: 40
;D :D ;)
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, December 13, 2010, 4:27pm; Reply: 41
"Poor taste."   ;D

Mrs. Rodgers, that's such a great story!  It's normal to feel like you only want one when that one is so little and demanding.  It takes me a full year or more to start thinking about another one.  I had my fourth baby (at home) last August.  She's toddling around everywhere now and is such a joy.  One of my goals is to eventually be a postpartum doula.  I'd be there for the birth too, of course, but I very firmly believe that some of the postpartum depression in this country is caused from over-work and lack of help in those early weeks and months.  It's too much to do--keeping up with house, chores, cooking and other children when all you want to do is curl up with your new baby and sleep!  And that's where a new mother should be--in bed!  And yet, with the way our culture is set up, it's impossible to do that.  I'll get off my soap box now.
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 2:07am; Reply: 42
Congratulations on your fourth! I'm with you Ribbet.  Home birth is the way to go.  It was so annoying trying to keep all the drugs and IV's and monitors away from these girls.  And they tried to tell my niece her nipples were too small and she needed a nipple shield.  ::)

Postpartum doula work is rewarding but the effects of the epidurals just follows them home with sucking problems. I think that makes having help even more crucial.

Cancer update.  My husbands blood count today was good which puzzled his doctor.  :D  Gayle just told him I had him on all kinds of supplements and he was eating good.  Also the doctor said his mouth looked good too.  
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 2:26am; Reply: 43
:)
Posted by: Stefina, Wednesday, December 15, 2010, 2:43pm; Reply: 44
Sending peace & thoughts for constructive solutions your way...
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 5:56am; Reply: 45
Thank you for your positive thoughts Stefina.  

Cancer Update:

Week five is completed and we are on the last week of chemo and radiation.  Only 4 more days. My husband"s appetite is still good, still no skin breakdown from the radiation and his mucous membranes in his mouth are pretty good. :) Lots of good Gatherer foods, antioxidants and alkaline water are saving his butt literally.

I appreciate what Dr. D says in his cancer book regarding antioxidants:  

"In fact, antioxidants not only protect healthy cells during chemotherapy and radiation treatment, they also seem to increase the rate of cancer cell destruction.  Recent studies confirm that people using antioxidants during cancer treatments have better survival rates."  

Thank you Dr. D'Adamo.  Although a visit to you would have been ideal, having your book, NAP products, SWAMI program and this forum has been a gift of great value and is very much appreciated.

Love,
Diane
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 6:06am; Reply: 46
Fairly good news then!! It is a fantastic forum & a gift we all appreciate - being able to be there for you & each other... :K)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 7:06am; Reply: 47
;)
Posted by: battle dwarf, Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 9:11am; Reply: 48
this is a little late but i understand why they do the broad range stuff as aposed to "just cutting it out" cancer cells are a bit like a rotten apple in your bag of apples. yes you can just take the one out and every thing might be fine...but what about the other apples it was toutching? wash them and they will be fine leave them be and you may have another rotten apple tomarrow. they have not found a better way of "washing" the cells than chemo and radiation so those are the tools they use. i hope they find something better myself.
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 9:16am; Reply: 49
Excellent job in staying focus on the diet and protocols during such hard challenging situation! ... and the benefits are showing!! Keep up the good work ... this community is wonderful ... excellent support and knowledge sharing under Dr D's guidance ... wonderful gift indeed!! Praying for speedy recovery ... (pray)
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