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Posted by: Green Root, Sunday, November 14, 2010, 10:58am
Hi, my aunt has long had problems with inflammation. At this moment her maxillary sinuses are in a quite bad condition.

She knows she should avoid dairy products. And also gluten grains (also barley and rye are very bad for her).

But do you know some very good herbs or foods that help with maxillary sinuses? I know one, horseradish. If you try to eat fresh horseradish, you really feel it in head sinuses, so that is quite an obvious choice.

By the way, she is O type. She could possibly be non-secretor, which is not usual among our relatives, but she has also worse teeth that many others here...
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Sunday, November 14, 2010, 1:22pm; Reply: 1
I've been taking Quercitin with bromelain and it's really helping my sinuses.  :)  I use  Now brand
Posted by: Debra+, Sunday, November 14, 2010, 1:39pm; Reply: 2
Hey Green Root...as an  O nonnie and you suspect she is an O nonnie, I would suggest totally getting off of the dairy and the gluten grains.  Does she take any of the O supplements?  Deflect and bromelain can help.  You mention her teeth are not in very good condition...lots of mercury?  Could be adding to the sinus problem.  Getting them removed and replaced with non mercury fillings would be a good option, if possible.

For me, good detoxing/settling teas are dandelion, milk thistle, rooibus, green, yerba mate, mountain tea, ginger.  Drink plenty of water and make sure she eats enough protein, veggies (a biggy), good fats/oils-ghee, olive oil, carbs (not through grains that have gluten)...amaranth, millet, quinoa, brown basmati rice, sometimes kamut are good choices I find.

Does she follow BTD or GTD?  Having her Swamied would be another recommendation I would give.  The diet would be specifically for her.  Secretor test too.

Debra :)
Posted by: mikeo, Sunday, November 14, 2010, 1:55pm; Reply: 3
try collinsonia root
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, November 14, 2010, 5:06pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from 815
I've been taking Quercitin with bromelain and it's really helping my sinuses.  :)  I use  Now brand



me too. I take the Now brand Quercetin/bromelain.

Also Collinsonia root is great

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP009

http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2006/03/13/collinsonia-canadensis-or-stoneroot?blog=26
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, November 14, 2010, 6:49pm; Reply: 5
I can't begin to describe how powerfully sinus irrigation has healed my sinuses!  I was never much of a Neti pot fan, but when I discovered the Nasaline, I really connected with it.  I had a lifetime of chronic sinus inflammation, constantly moving in and out of sinus infection, swollen tonsils and puffy gums.

The tool is like a large hypodermic with a silicon tip that is pressed against the outer opening of each nostril.  It sends out a swirling stream of saline that flushes the sinuses, and you can keep breathing through your mouth the whole time.  It takes about 2 minutes every morning.  I use 1/2 tsp sea salt and 1/8 tsp baking soda per 8 oz of warm water.  Other things could be added to the saline, such as a drop of grapefruit seed extract.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88RUnc8AQFc
All our local natural food stores carry these, or they are all over the internet for sale.

I think she should up her diligence with oral hygiene also.  She should floss every evening, and brush the inside of her mouth (roof, inner cheeks and especially the tongue - until it's clean all the way tip to back).  She's got a bacterial bed going on there.

I finally invested in an electric toothbrush, and if I had realized how good these things are at deeper cleaning, I would never have waited as long as I did!  I got the Oral B, basic rechargeable one with the round brush.  Fantastic!
Posted by: Green Root, Monday, November 15, 2010, 6:16pm; Reply: 6
Thank you very much for your replies! :) :)

She told me that after sucking horseradish for two days she feels a little better, but she was also thankful for your pieces of advice.

Do you think she should quit ALL dairies (except ghee?) for certain time? She told that eating organic cream cheese and a couple of other cheeses made the problem worse.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, November 15, 2010, 8:33pm; Reply: 7
get her a swami :)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, November 15, 2010, 8:40pm; Reply: 8
Cream cheese is an avoid for all Os. According to BTD, O secretors can have farmer's cheese, mozzarella, feta, and chevre (soft goat cheese) along with ghee and butter. Non-secretors can only have the ghee or butter.

I haven't memorized the cheese lists for Explorers, Gatherers, or Hunters (all 3 of those GTs can be Os and all include some cheeses) but I'm quite certain that cream cheese isn't on any of the lists.

I'm guessing from context that this relative is not currently following BTD or GTD at all, but you're trying to help her with dietary advice anyway? If I'm right, then I suggest you tread gently- if she's not interested in making changes, or in specifically following any of Dr. D's dietary approaches, don't try to pressure her into it. Only give her advice if she seems open to it.

If she wants something simpler than the entire Type O food list, but is open to advice, then I'd tell her to stop all gluten grains and all dairy except butter and ghee. I wouldn't even get into the other avoids (corn, potatoes, cucumbers, etc) at this time. Encourage her to eat plenty of meat/poultry/fish and vegetables.
Posted by: Green Root, Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 4:35pm; Reply: 9
That's a good piece of advice - again! Ruthiegirl, you are a treasure. :)
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 4:48pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Green Root
That's a good piece of advice - again! Ruthiegirl, you are a treasure. :)


I agree!  (hehe)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 5:08pm; Reply: 11
I have had awful sinus symptoms - seasonal colds that were finally diagnosed as allergies, and then sinus "infections" for which I was prescribed antibiotics - over the past three years.  Adding my vote for a neti pot or similar thing, which helps clean the sinuses when there are seasonal allergens in the environment, and which therefore helps reduce the discomfort of symptoms.  I think I had two issues, possibly comorbid:  genuine reactions to seasonal environmental allergens, and reactions to WHEAT and other blood type avoids that create similar reactions.  Sharing this with you as an O nonnie whose sinus symptoms have been dramatically reduced (if not eliminated) by following BTD since last September.  Not to mention other healings going on.  :)  Ginger is a diamond superfood in my SWAMI, and I think it is also very good for sinus problems.  Hope this helps a little.
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 5:45pm; Reply: 12
nothing will work as good as taking the eye tooth out..

or go on BTD for real.. all else is massagenistic..

drastic but true..

read the post right above..  
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 9:03pm; Reply: 13
it seems that salvestroles always worked against any kinds  of skin issues and inflammations... so far up to you to give a try .... ;D :D(smarty) and why not giving a chance to NAC ??)...(goofy)(whistle)(smarty)
Posted by: san j, Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 9:12pm; Reply: 14
It also doesn't hurt to investigate just how advanced the problem is with a medical diagnosis. An O friend's sinuses got so bad that, finally, he went to an ENT doc who demonstrated that his sinuses were completely filled with polyps.  :o He had them surgically removed and experienced instant relief, which was sorely needed.
AFTER that, he was in position to pick up some new practices/supplements, etc. :)
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 9:56pm; Reply: 15
My mother A+ (I suspect nonnie warrior-explorer) had twice sinus surgery for polyps at 42 and at 68 years,  so the problem is great and BTD GTD is a good prevention and treatment there are not yet polyps !
Posted by: healthy4, Thursday, December 23, 2010, 12:54am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Green Root
That's a good piece of advice - again! Ruthiegirl, you are a treasure. :)


me three!!!!   :K)
Posted by: cajun, Thursday, December 23, 2010, 8:37pm; Reply: 17
Maria,
I had sinus surgery 2 years ago for blockage and polyps. The polyps returned and ALL sinus cavities are completely blocked! A new ENT wants to perform surgery in January and put me on lifetime steroids. Naturally, I refused the steroids but I cannot breathe through my nose at all and must do something.
I agree the bloodtype diet has helped with mucous and coughing but I know my issues are also environmental.
Your Mom had the surgery twice and the polyps did not return? So, there is hope?
I told the ENT I would have surgery but will never take steroids.
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Thursday, December 23, 2010, 10:41pm; Reply: 18
I hope you can avoid steroids with the antiinflamatory BTD and GTD, I have already to try to go dairy free totally for a long period and test again later, but my chronic inflamed nose is yet to test for polyps. With BTD GTD I escaped frequent antibiotics and mucolitic inhalations, but I have not reached the eye allergy relief (98 %) I got gluten free and cow milk free also in my nose. It is inflamed, dry , bleeding easily but with saline solution twice a day I breathe pretty well as I pllay recorder and baroque flute. My mother had a certain relief also without steroids from the surgery and without BTD, though her immune sensitivity was high as she had also asthma from dust and other allergens. If you need a second surgery in two years you have probably to detect some inflamating culprit not yet discovered in my opinion. Hope it helps  and best wishes for your issues  Maria Giovanna!
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Thursday, December 23, 2010, 10:46pm; Reply: 19
PS my allergic sister used a new steroid spray locally on the nose without big problems. This could be  just a short period treatment to help your nose and sinus mucosa! Singers make aereosol of steroids  for the voice in case of illness when they have the highlights of their season !
Posted by: Green Root, Sunday, December 26, 2010, 8:18am; Reply: 20
Thanks to you all again! :)

O in Virginia, it's important to know that ginger has same kind of effects as horseradish. :)

You mentioned polyps. I have heard that apple vinegar should help with them. I have heard that apple vinegar should have other positive effects/actions, too. But that's so dissed in BTD/GTD and of course the warning has its reasons. Vinegars are irritants, I believe that for many people. But does it have also some lectins?

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?437

For type A the page says,
"Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins" which could point at some lectins.

I am O secretor. Hence my thoughts to apple vinegar are naturally NOT so bad, although SWAMI suspects total avoid also for me (for me the same difference concerns also black pepper, for instance). Still I have avoided them a big part of time.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Sunday, December 26, 2010, 2:01pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Maria Giovanna
My mother A+ (I suspect nonnie warrior-explorer) had twice sinus surgery for polyps at 42 and at 68 years,  so the problem is great and BTD GTD is a good prevention and treatment there are not yet polyps !


She must be eating oranges, bananas and coconut... to have abnormal growths like that...

My mother who was an A and could have been a short warrior...lol.. had  a lot of growths.. bladder polyps, fibroids, fatty tumor on her arm, cystic breast disease...and finally a brain tumor..
I told her oranges were an avoid and she laughed at me...She's deceased now. :(
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Sunday, December 26, 2010, 5:10pm; Reply: 22
In my mother case also cow milk as in  her mother and me could be a culprit. Sicilian oranges in Italy are much better than the regular ones so we indulged  with them before BTD . Coconut and banana were seldom at home and not preferred items for all us. My mother is 77 years old and no one knew better when she was younger here Diana !  But my opinion is on dairy and milk above all (gluten and EGF for celiacs as me too). I seem to be polyps free till now, also if my nose is not 100 % healed with BTD/GTD, instead my strong eye allergy is nearly gone ! Cow milk and gluten  avoidance brought me there, as  an A celiac !
My mother seems to me too a short warrior (mood , behaviour and beautiful long legs also if not tall, she hated exercise and sports) or an explorer (lefhanded. asthmatic  and suspected nonnie).
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Sunday, December 26, 2010, 6:24pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from Maria Giovanna
In my mother case also cow milk as in  her mother and me could be a culprit. Sicilian oranges in Italy are much better than the regular ones so we indulged  with them before BTD . Coconut and banana were seldom at home and not preferred items for all us. My mother is 77 years old and no one knew better when she was younger here Diana !  


Maria I did not say your mother should've known better. My mother didn't know either until in her 70's when I told her about the BTD.  Besides, an orange is an orange. Sicilian or regular, otherwise Dr. D would have made Sicilian oranges ok for A's.  I was just making an observation.  Not in a good mood today Maria?  :-/
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Sunday, December 26, 2010, 7:13pm; Reply: 24
I did not read the full thread, but thought Genoma Security would be great for this application.
Security works on the Biofilms. ;)
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Sunday, December 26, 2010, 7:42pm; Reply: 25
No Diana, no bad mood,  just sad for her now (Alzheimer a wild beast) and to have not brought her immediately on BTD, but she was not receptive, nearly not at all. She ate what I cooked but also everything she choosed till 4 years ago. She was a great gal till 68-69 years old .
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