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Posted by: DoS, Sunday, October 17, 2010, 8:47pm
Sooo....

I try to drink lots of fluids. I drink lots of tea (green/herbal) but... I can not retain water and use to have edema for sure. If I do not drink water and pee then I feel bad too. It is always clear unless I stop drinking. It smells yeasty a lot too (or burnt cheerios if you will).  

I have been worried about diabetes and have been eating recommendations by  diabetes book which basically means a lot of carbohydrates (it says a ton for secreter A types). However I am getting tied of peeing so much! If I do not pee when I eat lots of carbohydrates I feel like hell.

I am never thirsty for water, I just want regular BM's so I will feel normal mentally from good gut flora. From what I know if you are dealing with diabetic issues you crave water? Pee is usually concentrated?

Whenever I go a lot then my legs start to have better circulation and it feels weird sometimes like palpations. My circulation in my legs has been bad though for years.

Products with whey often make me feel normal to some degree.
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, October 17, 2010, 8:47pm; Reply: 1
Oh yeah whenever I have blood work they have always said blood glucose levels are normal.
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, October 17, 2010, 9:34pm; Reply: 2
I know that when I get really toxic, don't have adequate fats in the diet, or I don't get adequate rest, my BM backs up...  

Do you know what caused the poor circulation in your legs?

Sounds like you need to continue to heal the gut...  Are you eating ghee and taking Polyflora, Intrinsa, and Deflect?  I recently started taking the new Genoma Security and it messed me up the first week, but then I started eating cilantro and the body started settling down and now I am feeling much better...
Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Sunday, October 17, 2010, 10:14pm; Reply: 3
People who are undiagnosed diabetics crave lots of water. They cannot ever get their thirst quenched until they get their sugar under control. And yes they will urinate lots of copious dilute urine not concentrated. They do this because their kidneys are working overtime to dilute their blood from such high sugar levels and in turn to eliminate it from the body.
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, October 17, 2010, 10:17pm; Reply: 4
I have never been thirsty.. I don't drink and have to really push me to do it.. I had to pee every 14 minutes all my life..

if your Blood sugars are tested ok then I think there is something else going on..

you have said for a long time that you are feeling rather poorly.. can you point me to a previous post where you outlined all your issues..    I think eventually you might need to consider that some other things are at work.. you are way to young to feel so poorly.. then again what IS IMPORTANT is the way you feel today as compared to even 6 month ago.. you ought to see tremendous improvements and comparing then side by side to how you used to feel might point in some direction not thought about before..

sorry I am no help here, but I do wish you all the best..
Posted by: labrat, Sunday, October 17, 2010, 11:40pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Goldie

if your Blood sugars are tested ok then I think there is something else going on..  


I'm not so sure about this.  A "grab" sample for blood sugar only tells you what is going on right at that time.  If your doctor will get a Hemoglobin A1C, that will tell you what your blood sugar has done over the last 3 months.

My dr always checks the A1C for a true picture of my blood glucose.  I'm not a doctor but I am a diabetic.
;D
Posted by: geminisue, Sunday, October 17, 2010, 11:45pm; Reply: 6
May uric acid, any pain in your big toe/toes
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, October 18, 2010, 12:07am; Reply: 7
if you want BM, eat more fruit, if you think you have a sugar issue, eat low fodmap fruit.

sounds like you have fructose malabsorption to me.

so wheat, fruit, certain vegs and lactose will cause grief.
Posted by: Vicki, Monday, October 18, 2010, 12:32am; Reply: 8
Amaranth and *broccoli* are very helpful for this A to keep regular.

A's are prone to poor digestion when stressed.  

Do you take part in daily exercise of some sort?  Gotta move to have regular movements!
Posted by: Vicki, Monday, October 18, 2010, 12:34am; Reply: 9
Quoted from labrat

If your doctor will get a Hemoglobin A1C, that will tell you what your blood sugar has done over the last 3 months.
;D


Excellent!  

Posted by: DoS, Monday, October 18, 2010, 5:33am; Reply: 10
I am not sure what causes the poor circulation. I know I need exercise in order for it to be decent. If I sit around and do not eat it seems to improve. When I was healthy last spring (zero stress, lived with my dad, ate perfect, sat on my butt) the circulation improved some and got better as soon as I got back on my bicycle but then the lamb stopped that and stopped my perfect digestion at the time. It is possible intestinal distress causes a lot of the issues with inflammation of my legs but I have no idea.

I gave away my oats. Maybe ANY gluten affects me and not just wheat.

Thirsty? I am almost never thirsty, ever; not even when I should be.

My big toes go numb sometimes...

I ride my bike everywhere or walk. I have a yoga class I go to sometimes.

I eat ghee and take some capyrlic acid supplements.

My face is always red and it looks awful.
Posted by: yaeli, Monday, October 18, 2010, 6:20am; Reply: 11
Quoted from DoS
I can not retain water and use to have edema for sure. If I do not drink water and pee then I feel bad too. It is always clear unless I stop drinking. It smells yeasty a lot too (or burnt cheerios if you will).
Quoted from DoS
Oh yeah whenever I have blood work they have always said blood glucose levels are normal.
Do they check your renal profile?




Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, October 18, 2010, 6:36am; Reply: 12
Sounds like you need to start keeping a food journal and also log your feeling/health for each day at the end of each. I found this to be personally very helpful. I didn't realize how little fresh veg I was eating. As I have increased my vegetables (all bennies) a hundred fold I have had the most amazingly healthy bowel movements better than I ever remember having in my entire life.

I've cut out gluten, that was the last thing to go. I do okay on oats. Sometimes it's more what you need to eat more of instead of what you need to eliminate. That's what I've really been noticing recently. Though I still do highly recommend never eating red meat! lol I've learned my lesson after years of doing that.

The first 6 months of start my BTD I had quite a few neurological problems. My left hip was numb to touch. The back of both hands if touched or knocked against anything would send shooting pains. I just figured that my body was healing. With a lot of issues and pain I've had since I've been on the BTD/GTD it mostly stems from what I realized after was healing pain.

Oh how is your weight?
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, October 18, 2010, 8:08am; Reply: 13
I come back to asking for a list of issues before, weight and lifestyle and COMPARE to NOW..

numb tows is neuropathy, and possible from diabetes,
water retention and edema is more a kidney issue.. but you are so young,
drinking great amounts of water can wash out much needed minerals.  are you eating green beans? using sea salt? to replace the minerals.
one or two foods can cause issues, even if they are only in some store bought products.
for stress go where others talk about stressors.. like in AA type places .. they are free..and the wisdom reaches across issues
as you are exercising the accumulation of fluids is not normal..
have you seen a doctor-what did he say? when?




Posted by: Vicki, Monday, October 18, 2010, 2:57pm; Reply: 14
Get a full checkup if you can.  Do you think you may have blood clots?  

My friend was a young "healthy" Type A with an undesirable diet who sat around a lot (his work) and developed blood clots in his legs.  He's recovered fine and eats/moves better now.
Posted by: DoS, Monday, October 18, 2010, 6:24pm; Reply: 15
The doctors here are useless and I refuse to go to them unless it is for something I need for my own diagnosis, like a test for breath hydrogen or something like that.

Today I feel better and have had zero carbohydrates.

Weight? I am overweight and nothing in the world has been able to change that for awhile. No type of exercise or eating habits has done anything.

My renal profile was normal.

I do not eat green beans but do eat red salt from some reservoir underneath ground, not sea salt.

Lately I have not had edema since eating more protein though, obviously, since I pee so much. Not today though since I have not eaten any carbohydrates.
Posted by: TJ, Monday, October 18, 2010, 9:06pm; Reply: 16
I pee a lot too, but it's probably a completely unrelated problem: adrenal fatigue.  Low aldosterone means your body doesn't retain enough sodium or eliminate enough potassium.  And where the sodium goes, there follows the water.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, October 18, 2010, 10:39pm; Reply: 17
Quoted Text
I pee a lot too, but it's probably a completely unrelated problem: adrenal fatigue.  Low aldosterone means your body doesn't retain enough sodium or eliminate enough potassium.  And where the sodium goes, there follows the water.


I don't know about the above.. but it goes along with my thinking.. Green beans as they have all the minerals we need.. Sea salt as it has all the minerals we need.. and then if need be add the iodine the red kind for open cuts.. 2x2 square on the inner arm.. if still there in 2 hours you don't need any.. if not -then do it once a week or so..

as for me carbs just do me in - that is why I mostly eat green leaves as recommended in the diabetes book.. one gets used to it..  keep trying as that is the best way to find out what works for you..

as long as you are not weak from peeing then ok..

as for weight I can't budge it.. but I have been doing this much longer than you have .. I sometimes lose some when I am reaaaaaaallly careful to eat only meat and greens.. and walk ..  

as for dairy its in the GENO diet.. but not in BTD for diabetes.. so you need to be the judge..

now that you know a lot more then earlier in the year and have made some major changes .. take this test again??

http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm     think of your ancestors.. !  all the best..  8)

Posted by: KimonoKat, Monday, October 18, 2010, 11:15pm; Reply: 18
May I ask what supplements you are taking now?

Have you thought about one or two of Dr. D's Health Protocols?

Cardiovascular support protocol:

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BLOOD GROUP A

   1. Pantethine, 500 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily
   2. Gingko (Gingko biloba), 24% standardized extract, 60 mg: 1-2 capsules, daily
   3. Artichoke leaf (Cynara scolymnus), 500 mg: 2 capsules, twice daily
   4. Bromelain (Pineapple enzyme), 500 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily after surgery
   5. Polyvite A multivitamin: 2-3 capsules daily


You don't take everything in the protocol.  Try one supplement from the list and see how you feel.  


Detoxification Support Protocol

Quoted Text
Use this protocol for 1 week  BLOOD GROUP A

   1. Dandelion (Hytrax) 1 capsule, twice daily
   2. Fig powder: 1 tbsp before bed with a large glass of water
   3. ARA Plus: 2 capsule twice daily
   4. Green Drink (Harmonia Deluxe): 1 tblsp daily in juice or water
   5. Polyflora A (ABO Specific Probiotic): 2 capsule daily
   6. Dry skin brushing: Immediately before showering or bathing, start with the feet and gently brush up toward the heart. Brush from the extremities toward the center. Brush gently in a circular motion around your abdomen and breasts/chest area. The proper dry skin brush is made of vegetable bristles that are neither too stiff nor too soft. It shouldn't scratch, but you should feel some friction against the skin.


Intestinal Health Protocol

Quoted Text
  Use this protocol for 4 weeks.

BLOOD GROUP A

   1. Quercetin, 500 mg: 1 capsule with meals
   2. Aloe vera, 200 mg: 1 capsule with meals
   3. Jerusalem artichoke powder (Helianthus tuberosus), 750 mg: 1 capsule, twice daily
   4. Probiotic Supplement (Polyflora A): 2 capsule twice daily
   5. Intrinsa: 2 capsule twice daily
   6. Deflect A (ABO specific lectin blocking formula): 2 capsule twice daily
   7. Polyflora A (ABO specific probiotic): 2 capsule daily


Sharing with the best of intentions.

Jmho, Polyflora A and Jerusalem artichoke powder might be two supplements to consider.

Posted by: DoS, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 12:49am; Reply: 19
Well I should have food stamps shortly but I am not sure if it covers supplements...

Supplements uh I have some enzymes I have been taking, capyrlic acid, and once in awhile nattokinase.

Lots of green tea.

Goldie the diabetes book for Type A people recommends 7-9 CUPS of complex carbohydrates a day. Perhaps it was really the fact that I was consuming oats that have gluten? I have no idea.

I feel better eating ice cream than I do complex carbohydrates (vastly at this current time). That was one of the great things about thinking I was an explorer. I tried no complex carbohydrates or sugar for awhile and mentally I felt pretty good but other problems came about. It was also easy to eat meat and vegetable meals but my BM's wondered into nothingness, small and dark. It was not a good long term solution (obviously) but I could run fast for a long time and bike pretty well until it all started going downhill.

I fear my body just does not have enough insulin or is intolerant of complex carbohydrates almost entirely. Does that make any sense? Considering all the parts of my body that are not respondent to physical activity in the appropriate way except when I am off of complex carbohydrates I am not sure what else to think. The rare times where my breathing keeps up with what I am doing exercise wise is only when I am off complex carbohydrates or almost not eating them it seems. I am really low or not eating them when the circulation in my legs seems normal.

Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:05am; Reply: 20
Quoted from DoS
I fear my body just does not have enough insulin or is intolerant of complex carbohydrates almost entirely. Does that make any sense? Considering all the parts of my body that are not respondent to physical activity in the appropriate way except when I am off of complex carbohydrates I am not sure what else to think. The rare times where my breathing keeps up with what I am doing exercise wise is only when I am off complex carbohydrates or almost not eating them it seems. I am really low or not eating them when the circulation in my legs seems normal.
So could you be an explorer ??) I cant remember where you got to with that thought... :-/ If it were me, & avoiding complex carbs worked, I would just try that for a while & see... Maybe things will heal enough to move on after that... ??)

Posted by: KimonoKat, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:05am; Reply: 21
Destroyer,

I don't know if you can buy supplements with food stamps.  Does anyone know?  Could it vary from state to state?

So maybe loading up on vegetable proteins and other live food vegetables?

Maybe try introducing one Beneficial A grain at a time, but only once every few days.  Rice has no gluten.  I'd start with whole brown rice.

Another option would be to get some flax seed and grind that up. Sprinkle it over salads.  That would get you a highly beneficial fiber in your diet.

I'll keep thinking on this problem and hope others will chime in.
Posted by: DoS, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 2:55am; Reply: 22
When I was a child I was very sensitive to caffiene or so I thought. I would lay awake a long time if I had a soda but I also gained weight steadily. Now caffiene does not keep me awake but too much coffee seems to do something weird to insulin maybe. It can make me go to the bathroom but my face gets really red and I need some simple sugars or I feel too weird.

I like lamb but my bowel system does exactly what Dr. D describes as happens to type A people. I once had slightly low iron on a test but... not taking that to heart as I ate horrible at the time. It is a little hard to believe I am an explorer at this point seeing how my gut flora goes nuts and allergies get big as well as infections. My only good digestion was without lamb. I seem to resemble my mother's side which is nothing but riddeled with heart disease except my mother is sensitive to molds and has asthma (hates lamb with a passion and does not seem to be an explorer, type AB blood). I do not share her sensitivities. I did have allergies but my gut flora was destrotyed by wheat, ear infections, and antibiotics.

It would be great if I could just go see Dr. D but that is not going to happen as far as I know. It would be great because then it might give me some ideas on my mother but she seems maybe better off than me.
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 3:00am; Reply: 23
Have you ever tried chia seeds? Not sure how they are for A's :-/ They are great for fibre & also calming inflammation, dry skin, protein (I could go on)
Hope you get sorted...Must be a real pain ??)
Posted by: DoS, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 5:10am; Reply: 24
Yeah I am trying not to fail college and I have been going on and off struggling since 2005.
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 8:52am; Reply: 25
Sounds like you are severely low in magnesium. Magnesium is what brings moisture to our cells and also important our bowels.

Have you read the link on transdermal magnesium oil? I would highly recommend it.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 12:01pm; Reply: 26
In the end .. eat what you know works for you... (who said ice cream)  even if you stay away from the carbs for a while - or eat one at a time, beans might be even better then others, as there are several in the Super and Ben category.. ( do you have the book HANDY or would you like for me to type them out? )

[i]The book actually raves about beans and legumes with fish would seem more beneficial than any grains./i]

also they might be a tad less expensive which would help you with the budget.

by comparison the grains have several warnings.. and have no SUPER BENEFICIALS>>

I suspect you are a Nonnie.. and then many beneficials move over to allowed frequently.. so not every day.. Then also if you eat oats you might be eating them in a fashion not so good for you..

I mean there is no issue eating them any way - I like oats- but for upset intestines a good way to eat them is to cook them for a while up to 20 minutes.. until real mushy.. if you had diarrhea you could even strain them and leave the husks away.. add salt and spices rather then sweets.. but for nonnies that is only seldom..

by the way there other things that move over into the seldom category..

for right now eating pumpkin any way you can might give you variation on less expensive foods.. all pumpkins I think are ok.. easy to cook.. put some water in the bottom add the whole thing or cut up peaces and steam for 10 min or until tender then peal and eat.. I never knew the taste of any of them.. for a lifetime.. now I am a fan.

ONE THING I WISH to say actually 2:  YOU ARE DOING so much better KNOWING what you need to do.. THAT IS GREAT for a student who also wants to hold up good grades!!!! I feel Pride for you! But the one feeling pride must be YOU!..

as you are so young the sugar issues might be a warning for older age.. so doing GENO is good..  I have long suspected that Diabetes is a illness that starts in the 20's mostly from malnutrition.. You are 40 years ahead of most people!!!! Walk tall my friend. ;D. all the best 8).. what are you studying? (sorry if I forgot)
Posted by: Tom Martens, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 1:41pm; Reply: 27
Hmmmm.  "lots" of green tea would equal lots of caffiene.  Lots of caffiene would equal lots of pee.
The caffiene gives you the temporary energy but steals your water.

Cut your green tea to only 12 oz a day and I'm guessing your water problems greatly improve.

...just a thought...
Posted by: DoS, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 6:54pm; Reply: 28
I misread the diabetes book, it recommends less carbohydrates, less animal/nut protein, more beans.

I might try some of the things recommended in the diabetes book like Fenugreek.

It takes huge amounts of coffee to make the caffeine make me pee a lot.
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 7:16pm; Reply: 29
glad to see you finding results that will help a lot.. IT ..also shows you how fab accurate this way of living is.. we can trust where there is so little to trust in other diets..

and I always come back to food being the thing.. one food at a time.. then you know.. good luck to you..
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 7:38pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from DoS
I once had slightly low iron on a test but... not taking that to heart as I ate horrible at the time. It is a little hard to believe I am an explorer at this point seeing how my gut flora goes nuts and allergies get big as well as infections.
These are a couple of good signs that you are an Explorer.  Have you taken your fingerprints?  Different fingerprints on the index fingers are particularly pertinent here.
Posted by: DoS, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 7:44pm; Reply: 31
Nothing but loops.

My allergies get bad when I eat lamb is what I was saying. Chocolate bothers me then. Chocolate now is a light irritant as opposed to a bad one.
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 7:52pm; Reply: 32
Ok, gotcha now.

You are having a rough time of it with some strange problems.  I wish I knew what to tell you.  Heck, I wish I knew what to tell me.
Posted by: DoS, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 9:06pm; Reply: 33
Sooo I think Fenugreek is about as beneficial as anything I could possibly consume... period.
Posted by: Tom Martens, Tuesday, October 19, 2010, 11:59pm; Reply: 34
How much green tea do you drink and what kind?
Coffee and green tea are not the same as far as caffiene goes.
Posted by: DoS, Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 6:59pm; Reply: 35
Several cups a day. I would guess at 3-6.
Posted by: Tom Martens, Thursday, October 21, 2010, 3:17am; Reply: 36
If you can hack it, cut it down to 1 or 2 and replace the 3-6 with the same amount in water.  Try that for awhile and see if it makes any difference.  If you are ingesting any other dieuretic type liquids, they need to go as well.
Posted by: Tom Martens, Thursday, October 21, 2010, 3:25am; Reply: 37
Quoted from DoS
Oh yeah whenever I have blood work they have always said blood glucose levels are normal.


Just because your levels are "normal" does not mean they are normal for YOU.


Quoted from DoS



It takes huge amounts of coffee to make the caffeine make me pee a lot.



It's not just peeing when you lose water.  How much do you sweat at rest or during exercise?



Posted by: DoS, Thursday, October 21, 2010, 4:52am; Reply: 38
I use to sweat a lot, now not much ever.

I got some blackstrap molasses in me today and had some good results. It helped stop the incessant peeing and I did not feel so tired afterward. As soon as I get foodstamps I am going to get more of it and try a few tablespoons in cups of hot water during the day. I must be low on something in it (and B12, I have to eat a few eggs everyday). I am also going to buy several of the diabetes superfoods.

Today I drank a lot of water.

Last night I could not fall asleep. I wonder if it had to do with caffeine. When I was a kid caffeine kept me up like nobodies business.

During the night I have trouble with waking up blood shot eyes and the ends of my finger tips feel numb or something and sometimes a bit of the hand. It was happening earlier to one arm but only if I laid a certain way. The fingers doing it now do it regardless of position.

Looking back on my history

I think insulin resistance and complications have been my greater problem for my life. The problem only started to show after high school when I accumulated more stress. However the reason being for the whole situation most likely being abuse of carbohydrates because wheat screws me up; when I was a child I felt like I was starving and ate too much of the wrong things.

My friend that lives in the same building as me did not eat red meat as a child and was similar but has had better health. She is A+, and I have talked her into a bit better eating. I think not eating the meat helped her stay much healthier. Unfortunately the same problems were sneaking up on her but in more mild form, and she is a few years older than I. If my diet had been better I would be better now but... whatever.
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, October 21, 2010, 6:37am; Reply: 39
Quoted from DoS
I must be low on something in it (and B12, I have to eat a few eggs everyday)
Eggs can bind you (make it even harder to have good BMs) & also if there is still any chance that you could be an explorer, you may want to watch them for that reason as well... ??) :-/
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, October 21, 2010, 12:07pm; Reply: 40
Quoted Text
Looking back on my history

I think insulin resistance and complications have been my greater problem for my life. The problem only started to show after high school when I accumulated more stress. However the reason being for the whole situation most likely being abuse of carbohydrates because wheat screws me up; when I was a child I felt like I was starving and ate too much of the wrong things.


This SENTENSE is POWERFUL!!  Immmmagine how many people are being poisoned systematically by eating flower products..kids especially.. for those few who can eat the stuff, they have no clue how bad that food is and HOW ADDICTIVE.   breads and whatever is connected to the earliest foods, and all the holidays and Sundays.. I mean if ever there was a subject worth while making up a poem or a story - for the Grimm brothers- then nothing is.

Yesterday I went over to the dark side.. ::) and today I don't have a single wrinkle!.. my hands my arms my feet and all else is puffed up even my cheeks .. I mean if one needed to prove it.. I am a picture of glowing heath in any book but mine!.. I look and feel exactly or much worse --and I knew I would .. so no complaint- just suck it up and go compliant .. at least on the way home I got eggs and I am ready today starting with diuretic tea and water to flush-- paying some bills and clean up my paperwork, and do some exercise..not just sitting in the car all day!

there is an exercise that is worth the trying..it is so simple you will not even believe it..here goes:  drop your hands along side of you- sitting or standing- then roll the hands out wards and allow the hands arms and shoulder to roll out with them.. it activates the whole upper back -- but don't over due it.. just a gentle bend of the hand outwards and hold to the count of 5-then let go.. .. do it as often as possible..   8)
Posted by: Tom Martens, Thursday, October 21, 2010, 1:13pm; Reply: 41
How's your corn/corn by-product consumption?
Posted by: battle dwarf, Thursday, October 21, 2010, 4:09pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from DoS
It smells yeasty a lot too (or burnt cheerios if you will)


i think i know that smell. i get it if i give in and have strong coffee.
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, October 21, 2010, 8:41pm; Reply: 43
I stopped eating corn. Once in a grand bit a few chips will make it in my mouth but in large part it always makes me feel awful.

Eggs bind me? Perhaps but being low on B12 is hell or you start to think so... It is true that I did not eat a lot of eggs when I had the best BM's for awhile.

Today I have not had any complex carbohydrates and I feel... mixed. I did not get enough sleep because I was pretty much up all night. My legs still feel weird so I might take some fenugreek.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 22, 2010, 12:25am; Reply: 44
what does fenugreek do to you in particular?
or in which way does it help your leg s weird feeling?
I lost you
Posted by: KimonoKat, Friday, October 22, 2010, 1:40am; Reply: 45
From: ER4YT Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia

Fenugreek

Blood Group Specific Benefit
Group B
Cardiovascular
Immune-Enhancing
Liver Support
Metabolic Enhancement

Primary Action

Used to treat digestive distress, atherosclerosis, diabetes, and high triglycerides.  Chinese herbalists use it for kidney problems and conditions affecting the male reproductive tract.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 22, 2010, 1:49am; Reply: 46
thanks KK.....
I was actually asking DoS directly, what he feels fenugreek does to him in particular.....I have the encyclo :)
Posted by: DoS, Friday, October 22, 2010, 3:12am; Reply: 47
I think it lowers blood sugar levels like it says it does in the diabetes book. It takes the pressure off my head and allows me to think and sit still to concentrate on home work and things like that.

My legs go back and forth on the lower ones between being sort of stiff to itchy and then loose and good feeling. My calves are way tight when my blood sugar is high or something from the best I can tell.
Posted by: KimonoKat, Friday, October 22, 2010, 4:03am; Reply: 48
Quoted from Lola
thanks KK.....
I was actually asking DoS directly, what he feels fenugreek does to him in particular.....I have the encyclo :)


I'm sure you know that Encyclo backwards and forwards, Lola, I had to look it up...  
I was just kinda throwing it out there for general info, maybe, perchance it might be relevant to DoS's issues.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 22, 2010, 4:59am; Reply: 49
nice rose! ;)
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 22, 2010, 5:06am; Reply: 50
DoS, do you supplement with magnesium, nights?
Posted by: DoS, Friday, October 22, 2010, 5:41am; Reply: 51
I have not been. I try to eat stuff that has a lot in it though like black beans, tofu, etc.

In the past it started in on a purge of my intestines when I had an infection.

What I am a little confused on is what I should eat if carbohydrates are harsh on me. I mean vegetables and protein obviously but I feel a bit short. It just seems hard to hit the right level of blood sugar without going over.

As soon as my food stamps arrive I am going to get a bunch of diabetes superfoods.
Posted by: Possum, Friday, October 22, 2010, 7:27am; Reply: 52
The health status of the digestive system and the kidneys significantly influence magnesium status. Magnesium is absorbed in the intestines and then transported through the blood to cells and tissues. Approximately one-third to one-half of dietary magnesium is absorbed into the body [9-10]. Gastrointestinal disorders that impair absorption such as Crohn's disease can limit the body's ability to absorb magnesium. These disorders can deplete the body's stores of magnesium and in extreme cases may result in magnesium deficiency. Chronic or excessive vomiting and diarrhea may also result in magnesium depletion [1,10].

from wikipedia on magnesium deficiency & associated problems...
Healthy kidneys are able to limit urinary excretion of magnesium to make up for low dietary intake. However, excessive loss of magnesium in urine can be a side effect of some medications and can also occur in cases of poorly-controlled diabetes and alcohol abuse [11-18].

Early signs of magnesium deficiency include loss of appetite, nausea, vomiting, fatigue, and weakness. As magnesium deficiency worsens, numbness, tingling, muscle contractions and cramps, seizures (sudden changes in behaviors caused by excessive electrical activity in the brain), personality changes, abnormal heart rhythms, and coronary spasms can occur [1,3-4]. Severe magnesium deficiency can result in low levels of calcium in the blood (hypocalcemia). Magnesium deficiency is also associated with low levels of potassium in the blood (hypokalemia) [1,19-20].
Posted by: DoS, Saturday, October 23, 2010, 1:32am; Reply: 53
I ate some sunflower seeds and I got some much needed rest... I think magnesium is definitely low in my system much like B12 often happens to be.
Posted by: yaeli, Saturday, October 23, 2010, 2:16pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from DoS
It would be great if I could just go see Dr. D but that is not going to happen as far as I know.
I agree this is the best thing to do. Could you consider this again, give it another thought and find a way to do it? In Dr. D's clinic they will sort it out for you, and I believe will simplify it for you. (think)(book2)(cool)
Posted by: DoS, Saturday, October 23, 2010, 5:09pm; Reply: 55
Quoted from yaeli
I agree this is the best thing to do. Could you consider this again, give it another thought and find a way to do it? In Dr. D's clinic they will sort it out for you, and I believe will simplify it for you. (think)(book2)(cool)


Someone would have to pay for the entire endeavor for me. That is the only consideration.
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, October 23, 2010, 5:24pm; Reply: 56
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From: ER4YT Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia

Fenugreek

Blood Group Specific Benefit
Group B
Cardiovascular
Immune-Enhancing
Liver Support
Metabolic Enhancement

Primary Action
Used to treat digestive distress, atherosclerosis, diabetes, and high triglycerides.  Chinese herbalists use it for kidney problems and conditions affecting the male reproductive tract.


great response.. and interesting as fenugreek was in my GTD I think but not my BTD ..  
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, October 23, 2010, 8:42pm; Reply: 57
consider an appointment at the shift, less expensive than the clinic.....
hope you find a Samaritan..... :)
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 1:03am; Reply: 58
Quoted from Lola
consider an appointment at the shift, less expensive than the clinic.....
hope you find a Samaritan..... :)


You do not understand, it would have to cost me like $20 to fly back east and go to the appointment.

Today I ate a huge spinach salad and got lots of magnesium, B12, etc... still peeing like crazy.
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 3:34am; Reply: 59
Only $20?
Posted by: DoS, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 6:18am; Reply: 60
That would be a stretch at the moment.
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 7:15am; Reply: 61
D of S..... Exactly how much do you pee?  I would ask the question only because you may void often but only so much, or you may indeed void a lot at one time.. possibly it would pay to hold it all to see the volume as too much could be a sign of something to look at with a doctor.  

On the other hand if you are eating greens you may have activated your fluids and they are leaving your body as they should have long ago.  

The way I see weight loss is through the causes of 'fluid retention' being removed.. what do you think it is?

are you also losing other fluid (excessively) through sweating? saliva? for no reason?  
are you feeling strong or weak form the frequent urine loss?
are you losing weight?  
You say your sugar is tested as ok, but some excessive fluid drop may be connected to some other thing.  (even though I expect you to 'just' be losing weight which is a good thing?  

I think it right that you at least pay attention to it.

what color or taste is the urine? strong flush or soft release?  (for taste, if it is sweet then its diabetes of a different form.)  if its dark yellow, there may be foods that cause that. or foamy?? All that matters.

by comparison- before you started to void often or much, -- are you feeling great now compared to then.. ?  are you ever light headed? do you lose fluid when you sneeze?

what is your demeanor when you pee.. a smile or a grimace? relive, surprise or terror? ??)  
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 7:21am; Reply: 62
Quoted from Goldie
what color or taste is the urine? strong flush or soft release?  (for taste, if it is sweet then its diabetes of a different form.)  if its dark yellow, there may be foods that cause that. or foamy?? All that matters.

by comparison- before you started to void often or much, -- are you feeling great now compared to then.. ?  are you ever light headed? do you lose fluid when you sneeze?

what is your demeanor when you pee.. a smile or a grimace? relive, surprise or terror? ??)
I would say perhaps the latter two if you are tasting it??!! :D

Posted by: DoS, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 8:35pm; Reply: 63
I have to eat sugar or a bunch of carbohydrates in order to turn it into anything but a big relieving good power clear stream. ANY green tea sets it off and I go a few times especially if I drink any water after. I am afraid of being dehydrated.

I feel better after going. I am not weak. I like to think I am losing weight but can not say for sure. I feel a tiny bit light headed at times when I stand up but that is normal I think.

Lately I have had less anxiety, stress, etc...  
Posted by: yaeli, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 8:58pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from DoS
I am not weak.

Lately I have had less anxiety, stress, etc...  
This sounds good!  :)

As has been mentioned a lot in the forums, 2-3 grains of salt in your drinking water improve hydration (intra-cellular hydration).
A diet rich in fresh greens will also hydrate you well and will benefit your general health big time.

Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, October 24, 2010, 9:53pm; Reply: 65
and fruits will help with fluids too.. Green tea I still think is a good flush, and as long as you keep drinking then you pee.. but drinking ought not be more then 6-8 glasses.. total, as you other wise will wash out the needed minerals.  

Lightheaded, is another issue .. A's are prone to light headedness.

the fact that you seem to have less stress is a good thing.. sometimes we attract stress when we can least handle it.. IF you did green tea conversion from coffee then its working..

so as long as there is no foaminess all is ok.. and as long as you are not loosing water involuntary I would stop worrying .. only when you are EXCESSIVELY thirsty do you need to worry.. or loosing more fluid then you take in.. IF ever you can afford it, like in spring, then buy dandelions and juice them .. a small glass will do to clear out old toxins.. if not then just eat compliant fruit and vegetables..

as for tasting .. if it smells like dead fish that is one thing.. if it smells like ammonia that is another, but correctable with water as you are doing.. so that leaves tasting it for extra sweetness.. but if that gags you I understand..

the pain in your legs is also another thing, if you are loosing weight it could just be fluid exchange.. if you where (and you say you are not now) diabetic that would be a bigger concern as it could be neuropathy, but as long as there are no permanent numb areas , I think it will correct itself.. Numb areas would most likely be from the propensity of diabetes.. but THE BIG issue then is that you BE VERY careful not to injury your self on the feet, or if you ever do have something that you keep a good eye on it so as not to (seriously) loose your foot..

so measure your intake and measure your output and if they are about equal + or - the fluid you loose through breathing and the skin.. about 2 quarts.. then all is well.. for now.. just keep a eye open and don't become complacent..    But time will heal all if you are able to eat compliant.. how hard is it to avoid the avoids??
Posted by: DoS, Monday, October 25, 2010, 4:58pm; Reply: 66
When I wake up in the morning there is a chance my pee is sweet smelling but it is hard to say, could be ammonia or something too. It just smells different and is concentrated. I can not tell if it is foamy because it goes directly into the drain where I pee.

I think my insulin resistance is just through the roof or my body is confused on keeping stable blood sugar. I guess? I wish my left arm would stop getting the circulation cut off so easily when I sleep on my left side... it actually hurts some because the circulation gets so poor.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, October 25, 2010, 5:12pm; Reply: 67
so pee in some container already..

the arm.. You might try putting a pillow under your arm and one between the knees..  not on your back ..
Posted by: DoS, Monday, October 25, 2010, 6:20pm; Reply: 68
Even if it is sweet what would it matter?

I read it could be white blood cells.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, October 25, 2010, 8:33pm; Reply: 69
fenugreek can mimic maple in some metabolisms......perhaps that s what you are perceiving as sweet
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, October 25, 2010, 11:15pm; Reply: 70
sweet urine is DIABETES related.. it's like honey.. you can taste..

if frothy: it's the kidneys

if its yellow:  then to much protein in the urine, the liver is working to hard..

if it smeels like dead fish then drink more to flush the bladder..  

if it burns it's infection,

if it's not flowing it's prostrate, or PTSD,

if it's way more then you take in in fluids its the heart working to hard..

and if you stop peeing you might have high temp..    

all this is hearsay..
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