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Posted by: 178 (Guest), Sunday, September 26, 2010, 11:34am
It is a long time since I have written here, so greetings to everyone  :).

I have recently had some testing (Vega test) that has indicated that I have systemic candida and mercury toxicity. (I knew this already just from my own researches, but haven't done anything about it. It's surprising how someone else telling you what you already know can be a real wake up call!  :o) The therapist advised me to do a 30 day heavy metal cleanse:
http://www.ultimatebalance.co.uk/shop/heavy-metal-cleanse-30-day-programme.html?gclid=CMCq742qsqMCFQdslAodxkue4Q
to be followed by an anti-candida diet, an anti-fungal supplement (capyrylic acid) and pro-biotics.

I'm 3 weeks into the heavy metal cleanse and I'm getting confused about all the different information about what to do in my situation. I've done quite a lot of searching about candida and mercury on this website and while it's all fantastic, I'm feeling rather overwhelmed at the sheer amount of it and am feeling lost in all the detail. I would really appreciate it if someone would be willing to offer me some simple guidance as to what to do.

I have 3 questions:

1) I'm wondering whether it might be best to really go for it with the mercury detox by having my amalgam fillings removed (I have 6) before doing the anti-candida diet. This question came up for me because last week I broke a tooth with an amalgam filling in it and I'm having to have the filling removed anyway. I discussed having my other amalgam fillings removed and it is not as expensive as I expected and I am currently in a position of being able to pay for the treatment. Or would it be better to do the anti-candida diet for a month or so and then have my fillings out?

2) From the research I've done about anti-candida diets, they look severe. No fruit, no nuts, no vinegar, or yeast. I am an Explorer (Swami Xpress) and wonder if I did the Explorer diet, what other things would I need to do? Would I still need to cut out fruit and nuts?

3) I have the Blood Type Encyclopedia and plan to do the Yeast/Fungus resistance protocol and the Intestinal Health Protocol but I'm not sure if these are ok in combination with the Explorer diet, or whether I should do the O type diet with them (seeing as they were written to complement BTD).

Many thanks in advance for your help  :).
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, September 26, 2010, 12:42pm; Reply: 1
amalgam and yeast infection are going hand in hand....better to get removed the amalgams first and then go for a deeper detox.... please (pray)(happy)
Posted by: Niagreen, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 12:53pm; Reply: 2
Hi Rochelle, I got my amalgams removed a few days ago and am so glad I did it.

I have been on very strict anti-candida diets in the past and they have almost always made my symptoms worse. I'm hoping that without the amalgam leakage in my system, the candida will now go once a for all . In my opinion I would get rid of your fillings. I see my amalgams as a tap that was switched off. Hopefully now i have a chance of mopping up the damage.

I went for vega testing before I had the fillings out.. and i tested high mercury and candida like yourself. I'm starting to wonder whether you went to the same practioner as me!
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 1:51pm; Reply: 3
My dentist wanted to wait until all the mercury amalgams were removed before having me detox.
Posted by: 178 (Guest), Sunday, September 26, 2010, 3:56pm; Reply: 4
Thank you so much for your replies!  :) My own feeling was that it would be better to get the amalgam out of my system first, and you've all endorsed that, so that's what I'll do.

I'm going to the dentist's tomorrow to have the filling from the broken tooth removed and replaced, so I'll discuss having the rest of them done.

In the meantime, I plan to do the Explorer diet to the best of my abilities but wonder if I should avoid fruit, given that I have a candida problem? Or do you think I should just concentrate on getting the mercury out of my system for now? Are there any protocols I should use to help my body get rid of any mercury that I may absorb from the dentistry I will be having?

Again, thank you for your comments.

And Niagreen, hello! :) Where are you based? The one I went to is in Birmingham. Do let me know how you feel without the mercury in your body, I'd be really interested to follow your progress. Are you doing any herb/supplement programme to support the heavy metal cleanse?
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 4:16pm; Reply: 5
the detox protocol would be a start, in adjunct with the yeast fungus one
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 4:41pm; Reply: 6
from a former member who managed to combat the same problem you are having

Quoted Text
From a diet standpoint you want to be on a BTD compatible anti-candida diet. The reason for this is that if you have a mercury problem, then you have a candida problem. Both are harmful to your health. follow a BTD compatible anti-candida diet to prevent the continued growth of candida in your body.

The relationship between candida and mercury is that mercury weakens the immune system so candida can proliferate, and candida binds mercury. That means you do not want to do anything to overtly kill the candida at this point because you will suddenly release a lot of mercury in your body, which based on your already problematic health could be devastating to you. Chlorella acts like a mercury magnet.
Posted by: 178 (Guest), Sunday, September 26, 2010, 7:53pm; Reply: 7
Thank you, Lola, for your thoughts  :).

If I understand the quoted text correctly, I should do a BTD compatible anti-candida diet at the same time as having my fillings removed, is that right? What is a BTD compatible anti-candida diet? I can't find any such thing.

Also, I've read elsewhere that it might be best to detox the liver before tackling the candida as the die-off can be very harsh on the liver, so it needs to be on top form to cleanse the body of die-off toxins.

Maybe do the detox protocol first, when I have my fillings removed, followed by the yeast/fungus one?
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 8:16pm; Reply: 8
Quoted Text
What is a BTD compatible anti-candida diet? I can't find any such thing.

google any candida diets out there, make it compatible, meaning, don t eat the avoids according to your type or gt
Posted by: Niagreen, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 8:19pm; Reply: 9
Hi Rochelle, I'm based in London  :) - I  got them out last Thursday (had three teeny tiny ones) and since then I've been put on strong herbal mouthwash and a pungent herbal capsule made specifically for mercury toxicity. I'm also avoiding foods that have been grown in some sort of mercury rich soil (dont really understand this!)...

Everything you have written sounds almost like I could have written it too! I have a very stessed liver (according to my vega test it's the source of toxicity) and it's so interesing to read what you said about a liver detox before the candida diet. Whenever I go anti - candida I just crumble and feel horrendous. I also found out today that I'm an Explorer like you!... so it was a revelation to read that Explorers' livers can get bunged up easily. I'm trying to drink lemon water and cranberry concentrate as much as possible. I get the Cranberry concentrate from Holland and Barrett - it is yummy!

I've been given instructions for a liver cleanse. It's something liek apple juice, a whole lemon, 2 tablespoons on olive oil and as much garlic as you can take.

I was told to follow the anti - candida diet right away, but I feel that it is too much for my system with the mercury detoxing. I think my practitioner would rather it was done at once, but if you find that you can't mercury detox and candida detox at the same time I think it's so mean to try to burden the body so much!
Posted by: Niagreen, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 8:23pm; Reply: 10
also, having read a bit about how mercury contributes to the growth of candida I do have hopes that without the mercury the candida will vanisssssshhhhh (somehow)
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 9:08pm; Reply: 11
Detox the mercury and eat per your diet.  Make sure the gut is processing well and keep the liver and kidneys happy.  The body will take care of the Candida, although it may not be instant...

I have been detoxing free mercury and the body is holding the Candida in check.  I still have all my amalgam fillings to get out to stop releasing more, but still able to detox metal and other junk from the body prior to opening up more toxin spots...
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, September 27, 2010, 11:07am; Reply: 12
Assuming youthink amalgam filling are dangerous you would be well advised to have them removed by a specialist holistic dentist.

perhaps this will help

http://www.harmonikireland.com/dental-amalgam-dangers/
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, September 27, 2010, 1:31pm; Reply: 13
I read that the yeast has a protective effect converting the mercury to a less toxic form. I would get rid of the mercury and the yeast might take care of itself with the proper foods.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, September 27, 2010, 2:08pm; Reply: 14
Since the candida may help you detox from the mercury, I'd suggest removing the fillings first. I don't know if you need to follow a special "detox diet" or if the Explorer diet is already enough.

I woudln't even attempt any kind of anti-candida diet for a few weeks after mercury removal. If the candida isn't going away even when the mercury is gone (maybe get vega tested again to verify if the mercury is gone yet?) then maybe consider an anti-candida diet at that time.
Posted by: 178 (Guest), Monday, September 27, 2010, 7:25pm; Reply: 15
Thank you, Lola, I realised what you meant after I posted yesterday  :)

I am reassured that so many of you think that the way to go is to remove the fillings first, then do the anti-candida thing. I think I'll do some detoxing and supporting my liver while I have my fillings out and then do a full on anti-candida thing, IF my body needs it - good idea RuthieGirl to get vega tested again  :)

It does sound like we are on similar journeys, doesn't it, Niagreen? What herbs are you taking for mercury detox? I had one filling out today - am having a composite inlay put in which takes two trips to the dentist to complete. I've booked having the rest of my fillings changed, and have three trips lined up throughout October, so would like to ensure I take care of myself throughout.

I hear what you're saying about feeling horrendous doing just the anti-candida thing! Hopefully we'll both feel better doing anti-candida stuff after helping our livers  :)

Thank you everyone for your comments - I was feeling very overwhelmed before, but you've been a great help and I now feel I have a better take on what I should do  :)
Posted by: Maldo, Monday, September 27, 2010, 8:08pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Amazone I.
amalgam and yeast infection are going hand in hand....better to get removed the amalgams first and then go for a deeper detox.... please (pray)(happy)


Agree.  The amalgam is the cause, so eliminate that first.   Then deal with the candida condition that they caused.

Sounds like you have good nutrition advice.    As an explorer make sure you sweat by whatever means - exercise or sauna, regularly.   Have extra emotional support for 30-days or so
Posted by: Niagreen, Monday, September 27, 2010, 8:14pm; Reply: 17
very similar i think!
the herbal mouthwash and prepared capsules contain the same herbs - bugle weed, sarsaparilla, poke root, yellow dock, burdock, lobelia, chaparral and mullein. It smells a lot like cloves. I've also got to take some selenium to help bind the mercury and get it out my system. I've got to get tested to check my dosage - the side effects arn't so pleasant! Is your dentist holistic? how is he getting the fillings out?

whenever anyone mentions the anti-candida diet I dread it! I've been so strict in the past and it never cleared from my system. Have you read Erica White's candida book? I started off reading Leon Chaitow

I do hope all the time that we can all recover our health and happiness.  :)
Posted by: Niagreen, Monday, September 27, 2010, 8:21pm; Reply: 18
how has the heavy metal detox made you feel, Rochelle?
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, September 27, 2010, 10:47pm; Reply: 19
I have found candida especially like one or more of the following Sugar, Glucose Syrup, Peppermint. iif you think they take the mercury away. ;)
Posted by: Symbi, Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 2:26am; Reply: 20
Also an explorer with amalgum fillings and constant yeast problems.  Wow!  So many of us.  Would love to get my fillings out but that will have to wait until the funds become available.  Do it while you have the chance!!!!  ;D
Meanwhile I put up with candida, so long as the immune system (and adrenal glands) stay up to the task and preventative lifestyle factors can help (keeping acid/alkaline balance and airing out susceptible parts),  it is under control.

I read somewhere that after having the fillings out, your body mercury levels can go higher (even with the greatest care taken by a holistic dentist some will be released into your system) so you need to do chelation after that.  Often they don't take all the fillings out at once to allow the body to adjust afterwards.  Cristina is someone who went through all that last year (she's an explorer too), hopefully she'll chime in.

I guess the candida may be helpful for a while after the removal, so I'd work on chelating the metals out before you start on the candida.  All of it's going to be hard on the liver so you can't do it all at once and the liver will need support.  

It's quite easy to die down candida cutting out sugars, sticking to wholegrains, strengthening the immune system and the liver.  Our GTD Explorer diet does most of that and could easily be adapted.  Less fruit for a while tho, honey even.  Things like favourite goji berries (lots of fructose) would have to go for a while when you are fighting yeast tho!  :( Temporarily.  Meanwhile I munch goji berries and keep those yeasty beasties in check. ;)
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 3:59pm; Reply: 21
I'm about to venture on this journey as well.  I've got to get the baby completely weaned and then I'm having all the mercury taken out of my mouth.
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 10:58pm; Reply: 22
I don't have fillings but I do struggle with the yeast.  I find it best for me to limit my fruit consumption.

Can anyone tell me where the idea comes from that candida yeast absorbs mercury?  I've heard this repeated often but I haven't yet found any evidence supporting the idea!
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 11:04pm; Reply: 23
Ps: Mercury is found in cosmetics, various kinds of lighting/bulbs, some older paints, older herbicides, some older medications, thermostat switches, thermometers and other measurement devices, and of course in fish.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 11:39pm; Reply: 24
I have the same issues finding info on this. i'll keep digging.
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 12:27am; Reply: 25
Quoted from TJ
Can anyone tell me where the idea comes from that candida yeast absorbs mercury?  I've heard this repeated often but I haven't yet found any evidence supporting the idea!

Here is one site talking about the connection...
http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/mercurypoisoning.html

google this - "mercury candida connection"... for more information on the topic...
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 12:38am; Reply: 26
from reading the link i would infer that if you cure the Candida then yo have no mercury. which sounds a bit weird to me.

anyone who eats sugar has Candida, therefore it would be reasonable to assume that everyone who eats sugar has mercury poisong, so have we discovered that eating sugar gives you mecrcury or is it that eating sugar gives you Candida and rotts your teeth which gets you amalgam which get you mercury lol

not convinced so far

also all the symptoms mirror diabetes - must be the sugar.
Posted by: Maldo, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 1:46am; Reply: 27
Just to agree with those that said that Candida is a kind of protection against the mercury. I understand yeast overgrowth in your system binds to the free mercury floating around in the body and carries it out in the faeces.  As such, those exposed to mercury may even encourage yeast over growth (probably subconciously) by the foods they select to protect against mercury exposure.
As such, absolutely deal with the mercury source first. By dealing with the Candida first you may be removing a kind of auto defense mechanism, thereby making making it even more exposed.

After the amalgam is removed, do a restricted diet, but only when you are ready. It's not necessary to make crazy changes to diet after removing amalgam. When ready go sugar and fruit free - a week should do in my opinion and make sure to sweat plenty, and get some sun.
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 4:27am; Reply: 28
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
from reading the link i would infer that if you cure the Candida then yo have no mercury.

Try to kill the candida without getting rid of the mercury, and you are going to feel miserable and fail at clearing the Candida...  I tried it and it doesn't work.  

I have been able to reduce the amount of free mercury and when I did so, the Candida reduced as well...
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 5:21am; Reply: 29
the more reason to add all natural chelators into your daily diet in the form of pesto or other.....
Posted by: amazon, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 6:59am; Reply: 30
Ok this might sound like a stupid question but does candida count as a history of low grade infections on swami? What other types of things would count? I'm really not sure what the question is looking for so I'm not sure how to answer it  :B
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 11:37am; Reply: 31
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
anyone who eats sugar has Candida, therefore it would be reasonable to assume that everyone who eats sugar has mercury poisong, so have we discovered that eating sugar gives you mecrcury or is it that eating sugar gives you Candida and rotts your teeth which gets you amalgam which get you mercury lol

not convinced so far

also all the symptoms mirror diabetes - must be the sugar.
My understanding is that it's normal to have candida in the gut- it's part of the normal gut flora. The problem is with candida OVERGROWTH. You want the right amount of candida in there, not too much. Having other healthy gut flora helps a lot, so that there simply isn't  room for candida to overgrow.

A "normal healthy" person isn't going to get candida overgrowth from consuming moderate amounts of natural sugars or from over-indulging in sugar once in a while. The healthy gut flora will "crowd out" the candida and keep it in check. When candida overgrows enough to cause symptoms, it's because something in the body is already out of balance, such as too much mercury, or inadequate  gut flora following antibiotics, long term subnutrtion from a lousy diet,  etc.

Posted by: AKArtlover, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 2:05pm; Reply: 32
A couple hundred items popped up when I typed yeast mercury into PubMed.

I don't have time to scan through all of them for an answer or read too deep, but here are two things I found interesting.

Mercury and Selenium:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18761370

Yeast and mercury:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17241342
Posted by: 178 (Guest), Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 5:37pm; Reply: 33
I have almost completed the 30 heavy metal detox http://www.ultimatebalance.co......2qsqMCFQdslAodxkue4Q

I felt ill for the first week - nothing too serious, just unwell. During the middle two weeks I felt really well in myself, but that might have been because I was really enjoying work during those weeks, rather than the effects of heavy metal cleansing, I don't know. I did, however experience some nausea during those weeks. This last week I've felt absolutely fine ... until I had my first filling removed 2 days ago and I've felt a bit low since then, but improving.

(To clarify - I embarked on the detox before I decided to have my fillings removed but since decided to have them removed, which I'm doing over the next month)

The dentist isn't holistic, but is familiar with all the issues around mercury absorption - he's a relatively newly trained dentist and mercury poisoning is a hot topic at dentistry school here in the UK apparently. Some dentistry schools in Europe don't even train dentists to treat using mercury amalgam anymore. He uses mouth dams and loads of water to rinse the stuff away as quickly as possible. I'm ok with that -  even though I recognise that a holistic dentist might be better I can't afford the extra cost and I'd rather do it and do some detox work myself. I'm also taking mercury 30C homeopathy remedy to support the work.

Niagreen, I'm reading the exact same two books as you! How funny!

I haven't quite got my head around it yet, but have decided to follow my Explorer diet (including the liver cleanse and I'll make up some coriander pesto) and try to do the exercise - not my strong point  :) In addition, I'm going to do the intestinal health protocol to help heal my leaky gut (I always think that sounds disgusting!). Once I've finished with the amalgam removal, and done the intestinal health protocol for a month I'll review the situation and consider the candida diet. I really hope I can get away without having to do that as it looks no fun! :(

The advice on this thread has been fantastic, thank you everyone, I really appreciate it  :)
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 8:23pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from ABJoe
Here is one site talking about the connection...
http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/mercurypoisoning.html

Thanks for the link!  The referred study shows a correlation between unusually high levels of mercury and atherosclerosis, heart attack, candidiasis, parasites, EBV, chemical sensitivities, and UT infections.

Now I'm going to take a minute to be the devil's advocate here.  A correlation between two factors doesn't necessarily mean there is causation, but it could.  A correlation between A and B means that (1) A causes B, (2) B causes A, or (3) a third factor causes both A and B.

Let me apply that reasoning to the candida/mercury connection:I think a lot of this comes down to how well a body is able to detoxify and excrete mercury.  This is how I'm visualizing these connections right now:
At any rate, I think my original question has been answered! ;)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, September 30, 2010, 12:56am; Reply: 35
I enjoyed reading your thought process, TJ.
There are so many factors and interrelations in the way things work.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, September 30, 2010, 12:59am; Reply: 36
Quoted Text
Dr D
Lectins increase activity of endothelial adhesion factors, which increase inflammatory damage to the artery lining.


we need to keep things in balance
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, September 30, 2010, 2:31am; Reply: 37
Everyone forgot... Lots of cilantro. It is one of the few heavy metal detoxing foods.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, September 30, 2010, 5:05am; Reply: 38
not really DoS! :)
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1285500854/s-37/#num29

just in other words.....
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, September 30, 2010, 5:08am; Reply: 39
Stinging Nettle Tea can give you a real kick if you have any sort of bacteria issues going on as well.
Posted by: 178 (Guest), Thursday, September 30, 2010, 11:52am; Reply: 40
Not forgotten by me either - we call it coriander in the UK:

Quoted from 178
I haven't quite got my head around it yet, but have decided to follow my Explorer diet (including the liver cleanse and I'll make up some coriander pesto) and try to do the exercise - not my strong point  :)


:)

Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, November 29, 2011, 1:32am; Reply: 41
Quoted from Lola
from a former member who managed to combat the same problem you are having



Quoted Text
From a diet standpoint you want to be on a BTD compatible anti-candida diet. The reason for this is that if you have a mercury problem, then you have a candida problem. Both are harmful to your health. follow a BTD compatible anti-candida diet to prevent the continued growth of candida in your body.

The relationship between candida and mercury is that mercury weakens the immune system so candida can proliferate, and candida binds mercury. That means you do not want to do anything to overtly kill the candida at this point because you will suddenly release a lot of mercury in your body, which based on your already problematic health could be devastating to you. Chlorella acts like a mercury magnet.


Lola, you quoted this some time ago.  Is this quote from Dr. D?
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, November 29, 2011, 2:55am; Reply: 42
Quoted from amazon
Ok this might sound like a stupid question but does candida count as a history of low grade infections on swami? What other types of things would count? I'm really not sure what the question is looking for so I'm not sure how to answer it  :B

If you are still needing an answer, I think this could mean any recurrent bacterial or viral infection, as in sinusitis, bronchitis, pneumonia, etc...  

I'm not sure whether candida overgrowth would be considered in the group or not.  It is a fungal infection and is representative of a weakened immune system as well, so probably could be included.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, November 29, 2011, 5:49am; Reply: 43
when a quote is from Dr D, I make sure I state it before posting
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, November 29, 2011, 2:18pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from Lola
when a quote is from Dr D, I make sure I state it before posting


Do you know who the quote is from, then?  Just wondering . . .
Posted by: Patty H, Tuesday, November 29, 2011, 2:20pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from Lola
when a quote is from Dr D, I make sure I state it before posting


PS:  I'm looking for the source of the original quote as I am sure there is other good information included that would be helpful to me.
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