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Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, September 25, 2010, 12:39am
Couldn't help but want to share this gem of information.

Recently I was diagnosed with asthma (after allergic reaction to St John's Wort) so I started to search on how it may be linked to my other conditions.  Bingo!  It's yet another sign of adrenal fatigue, and so are many of my other conditions:



From: http://www.naturalnews.com/024985_cortisol_blood_adrenal_fatigue.html  
That is the summary a very long informative article http://tuberose.com/Adrenal_Glands.html

Have always wondered why the back muscles get sore with adrenal fatigue, also hip and knee problems.  Who knew those pesky little glands could have such an effect  >:( Ah but with knowledge comes the power to fix them  :)  

I wonder if there are others who have similar problems and don't know that it's related to adrenal fatigue.  According to the article 80% of people suffer it in some way!
Posted by: Poppy, Saturday, September 25, 2010, 2:11am; Reply: 1
Did you confirm this with a blood test?
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, September 25, 2010, 2:29am; Reply: 2
Hi Poppy, thanks for your concern  :).  I've had low sodium and slightly high potassium on many LFT blood tests for over a year.  Finally after much hunting (my GP had no idea what test to do) my Rheumatologist gave me a ACTH Short Synacthen test.  I barely passed that so if I continue down the path I would have addisons disease (to fail this test shows 80% adrenal failure I think).

My results were:
initial Cortisol 333 (range 160 - 650) - As are supposed to have high levels but I've burnt my adrenals out obviously ??)
Synacthen given
30 mins after: 605
60 mins after: 682

Cortisol should rise by about 200 and exceed 550 mmol/L at 30 or 60 minutes.

My Rheumatologist thought I did well to rise it that high after being so low.  Only thing was I think they could have been worse if I had have had them tested during the first week of my cycle since progesterone helps the adrenals work and symtoms are worse at that time (was expecting it to be early as usual but it was on time since SWAMI was fixing up my hormones  :))

Would love to get the saliva cortisol test done as it is supposed to be more accurate but it's beyond my budget at the moment. Pretty sure this is what I have tho!  Am taking lots of supplements (Bs, Cs, etc) and am cutting out sugars as we speak.
Posted by: cajun, Saturday, September 25, 2010, 6:14am; Reply: 3
I know nothing about adrenal fatigue and am now quite curious!
I wonder if it may have influenced my chronic allergy/asthma situation?
I had nasal polyps removed 2 years ago by my ENT physician. He said they take time to develop. He just removed 2 in his office 2 weeks ago and has ordered a CT scan because he suspects more. He is also referring me to an allergist.I just want to breathe through both nostrils at the same time and have a full nights sleep!!!!! :-/
Being compliant with the GT teacher diet has helped alot....I avoid wheat, vinegar, all the yeast and gluten I know about and have my allowed cheese only once a week..no cow or goat dairy..only almond milk or some soy milk every few days.
You seem to have so much more going on, Symbi and I will be thankful I am not worse.
I wish you more health and answers, also! ;)
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, September 25, 2010, 1:30pm; Reply: 4
I couldn’t get the 1st link but the 2nd one is a great article.  I’m recovering from adrenal fatigue.  I think I was suffering for all 4 stresses.  I kept getting more and more tired so I consumed more & more caffeine.  My sodium levels were below normal which explains my salt cravings.  My ND got me back on the road to health.  Now I need to learn to deal more effectively with my stresses.
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, September 25, 2010, 2:16pm; Reply: 5
::) sorry symbie... you are YOU and not the 80%cents ;) ;D....(whistle)would you mind to have a look into the famous booklet of Louise Hay.....*heal your body....*

stress-responses can be well treatened with a huge bunch of vit. C & mg... ;)
Posted by: Poppy, Saturday, September 25, 2010, 7:23pm; Reply: 6
Having this forum to express how we feel is so great! Symbi, I also feel for you, having a physical imbalance (if this is the right description) that is probably constantly on your mind, must make life not as carefree as you would like. I hope the fatigue goes away, and that over the next while other symptoms lessen also.  
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Saturday, September 25, 2010, 10:46pm; Reply: 7
not keen on natural news but for your benefit try on of these links to find the correct link

http://www.naturalnews.com/024985_cortisol_blood_fatigue.html

http://www.naturalnews.com/GoogleSearchResults.html?q=cortisol_blood_adrenal_fatigue&cx=010579349100583850635%3Aw_kzwe9_yca&cof=FORID%3A11&ie=UTF-8&sa.x=37&sa.y=18#1350
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 1:29am; Reply: 8
Thanks Policychecker and link checker too! I like to search for info from everywhere, many perspectives might most with an ounce of truth might make a complete picture.

Thanks Cajun!  Sounds like you're following the diet really well.  I find now that if I stay up late I'm wrecked the next day.  Alot of adrenal fatigue needs adequate rest.  And you're right Isa, how you think is important.  I've been tackling anxiety and worry and that's helped so much.  Vitamin C and Mg too of course!

Glad to hear RedLilac - it's impossible to get rid of stress totally in our lives isn't it but we can change how we respond to it.  :)

Cheers Poppy!  At least I know what it is that's the problem.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 1:36am; Reply: 9
You could try something that i have been working on recently.

lie down, on the floor, when you are not tired. relax in silence for no more than 20 mins the recovery position works well for this. also in normal light not darkness but not bright light. don't know why it works but it does, well for me at least.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 1:53am; Reply: 10
Thanks for sharing!

Only slightly related and a tangent-- I also just read that dogs can have their adrenals overworked by having full spaying or neutering where they remove all the parts. The sex hormones have to be made up for and is a cause of stress. Better to just remove the babymaking stuff-- uterus only for the girl puppies. Visectomy only for the boys. Leave the ovaries and testes.

From what I recall, they studied Rotties-- average lifespan without removing the parts was 13 and average age removing them all was 9. Wish I had read that 4 years ago :-/ Live and learn.
Posted by: battle dwarf, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 5:17am; Reply: 11
i wish they would do that for ferrets. what you described is called adreanal deasese in ferrets and is aggrivated by alot of light becuse it is their sexual trigger. it is the biggest killer of ferrets next to cancer witch is usualy related to the adreanals.
i wonder how many people ultimatly die of adreanal burn out or related complications?
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, September 26, 2010, 10:24am; Reply: 12
whats' about EFT ??) ;) ;D ...wish you a super quick recovery :K)
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 11:40am; Reply: 13
Hey didn't mean to make me sound like a bad case, listing all my symptoms was a way to summarise the article and hopefully help someone else identify adrenal fatigue.  I have many mild issues that I never realised where related.  Since I stopped having an allergic reaction and hay fever recently, the asthma is very mild again and I'm pretty good so long as I rest.  Great idea Policy Checker, I try to get a 30 min nap each arvo it really helps!

I know when the adrenals get fatigued I feel burning in the lower back.  Found out somewhere that that's because the adrenals are taking all the nutrients and energy leaving none for your muscles and tendons in the area - those hogs!  ADDED LATER... Also can be from the adrenal glands being swollen, apparently they swell up and can even double in size under severe stress!   :o

Cajun - was thinking about you, it doesn't sound fun having polyps.  Do you know that polyps and salicyclate intolerance and asthma are often found together?  Worth checking you may want to try an elimination diet and then reduce salicylates in your diet or take in more sulphur/sulphates (like through epsom salt baths!) to help you build up the phenol sulfur-transferase detoxification pathway.  Oh yes I know some big words but not sure I totally know what they mean!   :)  Here's some links on it anyway that I haven't had time to totally read but hope it might help! http://www.enzymestuff.com/epsomsalts.htm
http://www.wddty.com/avoid-salicylates-to-get-rid-of-nasal-polyps.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspirin-induced_asthma
Samter's triad refers to aspirin sensitivity in conjunction with nasal polyps and asthma http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salicylate_sensitivity

AKArtLover - you're welcome! Sad to hear that.  Glandular things are serious.  

Battledwarf - good point, old age may be another word for adrenal fatigue.
Posted by: battle dwarf, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 1:59pm; Reply: 14
i'm not old yet, whats my exscuse?
Posted by: deblynn3, Sunday, September 26, 2010, 6:19pm; Reply: 15
It's not the age it's the mileage.
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, September 27, 2010, 8:08am; Reply: 16
:) Wasn't calling you old or anything Battledwarf.  ;)  But judging by your name, you might have been through a hard life as I have too?  

(Not as cool as Deblynn put it ;))
Posted by: purlgirl, Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 6:13pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Symbi

I know when the adrenals get fatigued I feel burning in the lower back.  Found out somewhere that that's because the adrenals are taking all the nutrients and energy leaving none for your muscles and tendons in the area - those hogs!  ADDED LATER... Also can be from the adrenal glands being swollen, apparently they swell up and can even double in size under severe stress!   :o

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Yes! Thanks for shareing this.  Copied the links so I can read then later.

Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 8:54pm; Reply: 18
This is interesting...a connection between the thyroid and adrenals.

http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/shamesadrenal.htm
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Wednesday, September 29, 2010, 10:22am; Reply: 19
Good bit of info.

http://www.naturalnews.com/019339.html

I am totally going to start having naps with my son around 10am from now on!
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