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Posted by: Tom1964, Monday, September 6, 2010, 8:27pm
Slowly, over a decade, I've been isolating things and becoming convinced of what I should and shouldn't eat.  You'd think I would just look at my Type O list and GT-Explorer list as well as a custom SWAMI and I do, but at times I want to try things and when something shows it doesn't agree, I like to narrow it down.

My latest reinventing of what I could have taken by faith has been about oils.  It's very hard to find packaged foods (those things which aren't good for us most of the time) which are made with a good oil.  There are some which are extremely common (Canola, Sunflower, Palm Kernal or Fractionated Palm Kernal) and some of these are commercially promoted to be healthy as if one size fits all.  Until recently I hadn't noticed that some protein bars, which otherwise had a small number of close to compliant ingredients, were causing a significantly higher amount of acid to pass through (and out) my digestive tract which was causing irritation, burning and rash and the point it passed out of my body.  Over a few stints of eating them, then not eating them at all for periods of several days or weeks, I determined it was the palm kernal oil that was doing it.  I've also seen it to lesser degrees with Safflower, Sunflower and a few other oils.

I'm thrilled to have finalized this conviction experientially as this has been an issue from time to time for much of my life ... that is the iritation, burning, etc.  I'm down to only good oils for my type and the difference is great.  It cuts out a lot of things both commercially and socially, but believe me its worth the losses for the gains!

I believe as an Explorer, although this is counter being a Type O, I make less Intestinal Alkaline Phosphatase than most, so maybe it's related to reducing fat overall in my diet.  I have known for a long time that I'm best with very lean protein sources.

Have any other Type O's (we who overproduce acid by nature) or Explorers experienced this with oils, that they cause a higher amount of acid to pass through and out the body?   Is there a good explanation why avoid oils in particular cause this?  
Posted by: Lola, Monday, September 6, 2010, 8:51pm; Reply: 1
I chose only my beneficial oils......
glad you made the connection, thus the reason for the values given for each type
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, September 6, 2010, 9:26pm; Reply: 2
I found out the avoid oils had a profound effect a long time ago...  Usually, the reaction I have from an avoid oil is to burp rancid oil after about two days...  Seems to happen almost every time I get stuck eating at a restaurant, no matter how compliant the food choices were, unless I am able to get a plain salad...
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 6:27pm; Reply: 3
We non-secretors produce much less IAP than our secreting peers, regardless of blood type.  A nonnie O might even produce less IAP than an A secretor.
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 6:42pm; Reply: 4
When my gut was challenged regularly by gluten I reacted also to too much compliant EVOO, in salads or stir fried or grilled food. My digestion was stuck for hours.
BT A secretor here !
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 9:41pm; Reply: 5
I'm suspecting olive oil lately too.  Hmm.
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 10:02pm; Reply: 6
I think my body refers butter & ghee over oils...
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 10:07pm; Reply: 7
I must be rather scarce in their use first of all also for the compliant ones.
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 11:28pm; Reply: 8
I definitely do better when using ghee than olive oil.
Posted by: kauaian, Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 1:07am; Reply: 9
I use only compliant @ home, but do notice a problem w/ restaurant meals & am guessing it's the oil.
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, September 8, 2010, 6:28pm; Reply: 10
Ditto Possum.  I do enjoy my walnut oil as a source of omega-3.
Posted by: Eagle Beach, Thursday, September 9, 2010, 9:20pm; Reply: 11
Since I started using only Olive Oil, I feel so much better.  Yet to try Flax seeds!, looking forward to it.  Before I used to use Vegatable oil, sunflower oil. .maize oil, all of which did not make me feel good. So glad I found BTD
Posted by: Jane, Thursday, September 9, 2010, 9:44pm; Reply: 12
I've found that even when I asked for just olive oil and lemon for my salad, I had to ask them if the the olive oil is just olive oil.  A lot of restaurants use an oil that has olive oil as a base but has other oils (like corn oil) mixed in.
Posted by: Dr. Pepper, Friday, September 10, 2010, 2:37am; Reply: 13
Quoted from Jane
  ...A lot of restaurants use an oil that has olive oil as a base but has other oils (like corn oil) mixed in.


Sadly, a lot of restaurants don't even know what type of oil they have. :-/ ??)

I regularly visit a local wholesale restaurant supply warehouse where many of the local restauranteurs shop.  Lots of them are buying cases of an olive oil/vegetable oil mix.  The ingredients don't even specify the exact mix you're buying:  it says "Ingredients:  Soybean Oil and/or Canola Oil and/or Corn Oil, 10% Olive Oil."  It can be really hard to identify unless you're in a higher end restaurant and/or you know and really trust the staff.  And then there's the fryer oils...oh my :-/ :-/  Since none of us on this forum eats fried foods anyway,  ;) :) we don't even have to discuss it. :) 8)
Posted by: 11318 (Guest), Friday, September 10, 2010, 5:48am; Reply: 14
Speaking of fried food  ;D  Sometimes I really crave chips but have not found any w/ good oils. (Olive, Grapeseed) Anybody else have a recommendations?
Posted by: Lola, Friday, September 10, 2010, 6:08am; Reply: 15
yeah, fry your own goodies if must be

ever tried kale or spinach fries?

no oil, yet crunchy as can be!
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Friday, September 10, 2010, 6:31am; Reply: 16
Quoted from 11318
Speaking of fried food  ;D  Sometimes I really crave chips but have not found any w/ good oils. (Olive, Grapeseed) Anybody else have a recommendations?


Either make your own with known compliant oils or eat baked chips if they are compliant.   :-/
Posted by: honeybee, Wednesday, September 22, 2010, 8:29am; Reply: 17
Quoted from Lola
yeah, fry your own goodies if must be

ever tried kale or spinach fries?

no oil, yet crunchy as can be!


agree!
I have just received a bunch of kale in our co-op veggie box this week, decided to try this kale chip idea, as they are approx $10 a bag here if you buy them in a fancy 'health food' shoppe!

I picked 4 large leaves from the red kale, rinsed, spread on a baking sheet, sprinkled with sea salt, cayenne pepper, parmesan and olive oil, in an oven at about 100 degrees they only took 3-4 minutes and came out lovely and crunchy, very tasty, highly recommend if you are usually a potato chip head and want to ween yourself off fried snacks.
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