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Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 4:47pm
Has anyone else had experience with your cranial joints moving after being on this diet?

Some background…  When I was about 7 years old, I had a fall of about 8 feet and landed on my head.  Once I woke up, I felt sore, but OK and as such, Mom didn’t see any reason to go to the doctor, although she did monitor me closely and saw that I didn’t go overboard on activity for several days.

Sometime later, I realized that I had a depression that ran sideways across the top of my head at the cranial joint above the ears.  Since it didn’t bother me, I figured so what, but since being on the GTD for over 2 years now, the joint has been painful for about 6 to 9 months now and I have been having some regular bouts (they happen regularly) of intermittent (sometimes less than an hour up to several days) issues with ear (congestion, heavy wax discharge, and ringing), sinus (pressure and clear mucus discharge), dizziness, and pain at different parts of the head (sinus, joint area, internal between ears, and the base).  Now I realize that the cranial joint seems to be moving as the ridge is getting less prominent.

I am really impressed by how deeply this diet seems to be healing my body.  

Has anyone else had a similar experience?  If so, how long did it take for the process to complete?  I would be very interested to hear your experiences…
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:10pm; Reply: 1
ABJoe, I'm so glad you brought this up.  I see an osteopath who does sacral cranial adjustments and for the past year while following my SWAMI, everything in my head seems to either jam up out of nowhere and I need to see my osteo for a release and then it takes a few days to feel
the movement....I have the exact same issues with my ears...pressure, stuffiness...not discharge but congestion that drives me crazy....THe more compliant
I am, like when I take supplements like Deflect twice a day and Polyflora with Live Cell A....or eat
lots of soy and foods that would have powerful effects for a blood type A, my cranial joints move...Sometimes they're tighter...other times looser...and I've never been so sensitive to weather
changes, especially low pressure systems...My head jams up in low pressure systems.

For the past two weeks, after an osteopathic adjustment, I was absolutely at my wits end...but today after a good night's sleep, I woke up with less "crammage"....Don't laugh...that's the word I used to describe it as if everything gets crammed together in my head.

It comes and goes....

I might have days where I think my whole head is going to explode...and it's not a headache...

I did have a few accidents that related to my head...One was when I was in my 20s and got
catapulted from a wave in the ocean onto the beach...landed upside down with my head smashed
into the sand...A few years ago, I got hit from behind by a truck while driving...Even though I
saw it coming in my rear view mirror, and braced myself, there was trauma that went deeply into
my neck and back muscles..which might have caused more crammage in my head.

OMG...I can't even believe another person has mentioned this....Maybe there are more of us than
we know.

When I started the diet, I had severe sciatica from my spine shifting badly after my rear ended
car accident....It seems as if it worked itself out completely but moved higher and now is all in
my head.

Osteopath does understand what I'm explaining, and each time I see him,he has adjusted me to where I leave his office in a better place.  But I do keep on shifting.

I have a feeling this is going to take more time.  Healing is happening on a  really deep level, I'm
quite sure.  Even my thoughts are different since I'm on this diet.  Less uptight....more relaxed...
and sometimes "letting go" affects all the muscles in the body...and head.
Posted by: geminisue, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:11pm; Reply: 2
This has to be exciting for you, keep us posted!
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:14pm; Reply: 3
no .. yours is dramatic..

but for me pain all over has diminished greatly .. first by no stomach pains from dairy 35 years ago.. then by eating meat 20 years ago I kept my whatever health I had, and then BTD since the beginning and most other circular pain issues from painkillers and the like have also gone away .. the only headaches I still get are caffeine related, but I figured out how to keep them away.  

Inflammation is the mayor issue in illness and if you can keep that to a minimum then the body can heal..

In truth I did other things to, chiro,  acupuncture, weightlifting, walking, massage (www.ONDAMED.net) and finally localized PROLO therapy (www.getprolo.com).. today I am pain free for 3  years.. after 63 years of consciously being  in pain.. that is a good thing..

p/s I dont count even recurring headaches nor gumm issues as real pain.. my muscles shiften in  my neck from whiplash yes I have it but minute pain from it now a days.. better adherence (understanding all foor affects better) will help me get better every day..

one question I have .. do you think is eyesight better? the same? or getting age rleated worse..  

so goods luck to you..   ;D
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:22pm; Reply: 4
That's some cool stuff, Joe!!  (hehe)

I sure don't doubt it.  Comparing photos of myself a dozen years ago to the way I look now, my body shape and posture have been really rearranged.  My weight is optimal now, which helps a lot, but it is more than that.  The structural framework of the body seems to be shifting as the tendons and ligaments get more healthy.
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:26pm; Reply: 5
I just remembered something that might be similiar.

A few years ago, my daughter (then a teenager) passed out and fell onto her face, impacting the bone at the top of the nose.  It healed pretty quickly and left her with a smaller passage to breath through on one side of the nose.

After 1 1/2 years on the Genotype Diet, she started complaining about that part of her nose bothering her, really obsessing on it because it felt strange.  Recently she told me that it seems to be opening up and healing.  She said she can feel things moving in her skull and forehead.
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:32pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Goldie
one question I have .. do you think is eyesight better? the same? or getting age related worse..  

I have had glasses twice, for a year each time.  The first time was about 11 years old due to double-vision, the second was when I was in college and reading so much due to fatigue.  The double-vision was fixed with eye exercises and the fatigued eyes worked itself out when I graduated and didn't need to read chapters per day...

The last time I was at the Eye doctor was due to sawdust being blown around my safety glasses into my eye when I was cutting plywood.  There was significant irritation and I decided to go verify that I had it all cleaned out and it was OK...  At that visit, the Dr. tested my eyes at 20/15 - better than normal.

I have had some short-term blurriness during this cranial joint transition business, but it hasn't been bad or long-term enough for me to be concerned about.  I have gotten pretty complacent about symptoms during high detox periods - understanding that my body is better off now than it has been for most of my life and it will do what is best for itself as long as I continue to feed it what it needs.
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:41pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Chloe
For the past two weeks, after an osteopathic adjustment, I was absolutely at my wits end...but today after a good night's sleep, I woke up with less "crammage"....Don't laugh...that's the word I used to describe it as if everything gets crammed together in my head.

I'm gonna use that...  Explains it very succinctly...

The only other thing I have sometimes is little lightning storms in my head.  Sometimes they are just tingles, like a nerve blockage is getting opened up, but the other day it was like half of the inter-cranial comm. center was trying to be re-wired and the technician forgot to power down the grid...  I really wished I had slept through that one...  Not really painful, but really uncomfortable...
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:44pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from Victoria
I just remembered something that might be similiar.

A few years ago, my daughter (then a teenager) passed out and fell onto her face, impacting the bone at the top of the nose.  It healed pretty quickly and left her with a smaller passage to breath through on one side of the nose.

After 1 1/2 years on the Genotype Diet, she started complaining about that part of her nose bothering her, really obsessing on it because it felt strange.  Recently she told me that it seems to be opening up and healing.  She said she can feel things moving in her skull and forehead.

I know that feeling too...  I had stitches in the side of my nose and it feels like some of the air passage is blocked.  About a week ago, it was really sore in the bone and the passage opened up a bit...

I also think it is great that you can see differences in your posture...  I always had good posture, unless I didn't have the energy to stand up... :-/   :o
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 5:46pm; Reply: 9
I thought there must be others who had suffered head injuries, etc. that were experiencing this...  Glad to hear that I'm not the only one having "fun" with this.  It is great that we are able to share common experiences and have so many positive ones.
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 6:00pm; Reply: 10
Yes!  Dr. D has started a revolution that is much bigger than just the food we put on the table!  ;)
Posted by: paul clucas, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 7:36pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from ABJoe
The only other thing I have sometimes is little lightning storms in my head.  Sometimes they are just tingles, like a nerve blockage is getting opened up, but the other day it was like half of the inter-cranial comm. center was trying to be re-wired and the technician forgot to power down the grid...  I really wished I had slept through that one...  Not really painful, but really uncomfortable...
This reminds me of the sensations during the Tomatis therapy for my Dyslexia: stress, but not pain in the central part of my brain and a feeling of something stiff that was being opened to relieve tension.  

Poor posture is one symptom of Dyslexia (and other related learning disabilities) and was corrected during my therapy.  The control of muscle tension, body image, and the sense of your posture is connected to the neurology of the ear.  Sounds like the cranial movement is correlated with healing in your ears, since they are encased in bone!

Deep healing indeed!   :)

Have you noticed improved hand-eye co-ordination?  Or more acute hearing?
Posted by: narnia, Sunday, July 11, 2010, 7:51pm; Reply: 12
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  This is awesome!!!  (woot)(woot)(woot)(woot)(clap)(clap)(clap)(clap)

I've had many injuries to my body!!  Mostly due to auto accidents, and one a biclycle accident.  

As I read the OP, I recalled falling from the second story of the house that we were living in, when I was around 7 or 8.  Fell straight down!!  I was out cold for a few minutes, but nothing broken and no residual pain, so they didn't take me to the doctor about it.

Never experienced any problems from it that I could tell, but I never had good posture.

From 13 on, I have been in several accidents.  I have been suffering from neck and back pain for years, and then my knees (from the accident at 13) began to start bothering me about 5 years ago.  

The knee pains went away very shortly after starting BTD.  My back is hardly ever bothering me now since being on BTD and exercising.  My neck had been feeling better, but has been bothering me a lot recently.  I'm so excited to read this thread!!  Looking forward to everything healing up in my body!!!  (woot)(woot)(woot)(woot)(dance)(dance)(dance)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, July 12, 2010, 12:12am; Reply: 13
Dr. Nash at Dr. D's office practices CranioSacral Therapy (from the website). http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/craniosacral.htm
I also have a friend who completed her first class and recommended...

Your Inner Physician and You by John E Upledger
http://www.amazon.com/Your-Inner-Physician-John-Upledger/dp/1556432461/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278893455&sr=8-1

I am just finishing it up. Fabulous, not too technical read-- a lot of it fits in with other modalities. Good amount of individual stories.

I am fearfully and wonderfully made. ;)
Posted by: Tom Martens, Monday, July 12, 2010, 2:34am; Reply: 14
Seeing a chiropractor to help speed the healing might be a good idea.
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, July 12, 2010, 3:50am; Reply: 15
Quoted from paul clucas
Have you noticed improved hand-eye co-ordination?  Or more acute hearing?
At the moment, my hand-eye coordination is different.  I find that I have a hard time typing due to lack of synchronization, whether it was off for many years, now getting more in synch, or in synch and now out?  All I know is that it is really frustrating to have to rewrite all of my posts because the letters are out of order...
Hearing - I still have a lot of ringing in my ears, but once in a while it goes away for a brief period and I can hear more normally.  

The biggest factor with ears I think, is the balance.  I have quite a bit of nausea and equilibrium issues that I am attributing to changing cranial pressures... I really hope this gets better soon.

Thanks, Tom for the chiro suggestion.  I have seen a chiro since I was about 11 or 12, and have used one that specifically does Cranial adjustments...

I also just read in another thread about bodytalk.  I looked around their website (http://www.bodytalksystem.com/videos/) and learned about balancing the Cortices, which really seems to have relieved many of the cranial electrical storms.  I like finding self-help processes to aid my conditions...

AKArtlover - I just read the links you provided.  I'll have to look into this more.  Thanks!
Posted by: AKArtlover, Saturday, July 24, 2010, 3:31am; Reply: 16
Quoted from AKArtlover
Dr. Nash at Dr. D's office practices CranioSacral Therapy (from the website). http://www.dadamo.com/clinic/craniosacral.htm
I also have a friend who completed her first class and recommended...

Your Inner Physician and You by John E Upledger
http://www.amazon.com/Your-Inner-Physician-John-Upledger/dp/1556432461/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1278893455&sr=8-1

I am just finishing it up. Fabulous, not too technical read-- a lot of it fits in with other modalities. Good amount of individual stories.

I am fearfully and wonderfully made. ;)


Well, I just had an CranioSacral session today and it was awesome. I am breathing better than I have ever in my life. I didn't even know this was an issue. I am breathing, I feel, like I was born to.Much deeper, fuller. Something opened up in my airflow in my head, maybe my lungs too. I am taking awesome deep breaths. WOW. :o

Go oxygen!

Released some muscle trauma from falling on my butt twice last month. AMAZING.

Other things too profound to explain on a forum. Not sure I have the words to even explain it to anyone.

Finished the book over dinner and praised God for the knowledge and the healing.

Fabulous!



Posted by: 10111 (Guest), Saturday, July 24, 2010, 3:46am; Reply: 17
This is pretty interesting stuff I must say.  My cranial joint doesn't bother me but other parts are acting up.  A little over a year ago I was in a car wreck and messed up my upper body, especially my arms.  Since starting the gtd what I thought had healed seems to be acting up again, lots of popping of joints and muscles and ligaments and stuff along with aching and pain.   I never felt I healed right after the wreck, things just got usable and all the bruising went away.   I can only hope the diet is rearranging things the way they are supposed to be.  Thanks for posting about this as if I mentioned this to anyone I know they would surely have me committed.  ;)
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, July 24, 2010, 4:31am; Reply: 18
Quoted from 10111
This is pretty interesting stuff I must say.  My cranial joint doesn't bother me but other parts are acting up.  A little over a year ago I was in a car wreck and messed up my upper body, especially my arms.  Since starting the gtd what I thought had healed seems to be acting up again, lots of popping of joints and muscles and ligaments and stuff along with aching and pain.   I never felt I healed right after the wreck, things just got usable and all the bruising went away.   I can only hope the diet is rearranging things the way they are supposed to be.  Thanks for posting about this as if I mentioned this to anyone I know they would surely have me committed.  ;)

From what I'm feeling, I think you can rest assured that the body is healing thoroughly now...
My Chiropractor is in awe at the progress that I'm making.  He makes a comment every time I see him, that he can tell the difference even in my posture and carriage.  If he hadn't treated me for many years and seen me go downhill, then turn around and get back to where I am, I'm sure he wouldn't believe it either...  

I have continued self-treating using the Cortices treatment from the bodytalk website - referenced in a post above.  It has really helped my head and upper spine.  My practitioner found me slightly dehydrated of spinal fluid at the last visit.  I needed some homeopathic spinal drops to correct it...   The healing continues.
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Saturday, July 24, 2010, 8:54am; Reply: 19
Being a Massage Therapist for over 11 years now and practicing Cranial Sacral Therapy and Body Talk along with other therapies I just wish I would've been able to know about the BTD sooner. I actually believe that my clients would need me less and be able to do more self care ( which is the way I believe it should be) if they were following their BTD/GTD.

As for the feelings you are having in your head... it is such an A blood type thing to be sensitive enough to actually feel those energetic shifts. Cranial shifts are ever so slight. I too have felt shifting along my occiput, it's less compressed that it used to be. I hit it pretty hard on a cement floor when I was about 10.

Something to also pay attention to is... When you lay down and close your eyes do you ever feel like you are flipping backwards, sideways, frontwards... this is what is called "unwinding" in Cranial Sacral Therapy. I have had more and more of this as I have been following my BTD/GTD.

Very exciting that our bodies are able to heal on many level.

AB Joe - I too have 20/15 vision! My night vision is almost cat like! lol
Cortices will help quite a bit. I would highly recommend going to see a Body Talk Practitioner for a more indepth treatment. You'd really enjoy the process. It's the best energy therapy out there. Good for you for all the work you've done to heal yourself as much as you have. Fantastic!!!
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:00pm; Reply: 20
Christy,

Wow, I didn't know they had a term for the "flipping".  I just thought it was there to make me really nauseous...  I have been "unwinding" quite often recently...  

I watched all of the videos on the bodytalk website and am very interested...  
Posted by: grey rabbit, Sunday, July 25, 2010, 3:23am; Reply: 21
Quoted from christaalyssaA+


Something to also pay attention to is... When you lay down and close your eyes do you ever feel like you are flipping backwards, sideways, frontwards... this is what is called "unwinding" in Cranial Sacral Therapy.



This is the first time I've heard anyone talk about this, I thought I was just weird. As a child I would lay down at night, close my eyes and spin sideways, 360.
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Sunday, July 25, 2010, 10:22pm; Reply: 22
Unwinding is quite common. That's not fun that it makes you nauseous ABJoe. I have noticed that it's only really my AB and A clients that feel "unwinding" whereas O's and B's aren't as sensitive to energies of things. Lucky them!

There are things connected with Body Talk that just get a bit too weird. But generally I've found that BodyTalk is such an amazing way to shift the body quickly and effectively. I've done BodyTalk sessions and have seen such a huge shift in my client, more than if I had done 100 massages or 100 cranial sacral sessions. It finds the bodies highest priority to fix and gives you a mathematical combination of things that are all connected that need to be balanced out. Than with tapping, holding, breathing... huge shifts!

But yes, you're not nuts if you feel yourself flipping or twisting while you are laying there with your eyes closed. I've felt this ever since I was a child too. It got less during the times when I was sick and unhealthy. Now that I'm doing my GTD I do a lot of unwinding on and off when I lay down to sleep at night.
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 12:50am; Reply: 23
I didn't realize it had been almost two years since I updated this thread...

The cranial plate joints across the top of the head are still sore, but now the all of them around the back of the head and at the base of the skull/top of the neck are all sore as well.  I know there is still garbage removal and healing happening although I can't really feel any movement happening for the last month or so.

I have been having tingling around the whole back of the head quite often in the morning for about 3 hours each day when it happens.  It is best to not be very active when this is happening or I get some real exciting, but rather undesirable flashes...

Most of the major dizzyness has abated.  When the cranial movements were really active, I would have to walk the wall to go anywhere...  Now I only seem to get light headed or dizzy when I exert myself too much for a bit.  It is like a concussion symptom, which is probably telling me I shouldn't be doing that much work/movement...

I still have times when my ears plug up, either 1 or both, and they still vary in the frequency and intensity of ringing.

My TMJ gets pulled out of joint sometimes.  This creates a very intense headache and the teeth don't fit right when biting down.  Unfortunately, it isn't always easily released.  Sometimes I have to rub the joints for several hours and take a natural muscle relaxant to be able to adjust it...

I've been having a lot of pain recently.  Some of it at the base of the skull, some of it at the base of the neck / shoulder area and some in the low back / sciatica region.  I'm sure that with all this pain, something has to be happening - hopefully for the better.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 2:38am; Reply: 24
have you been adding trehalose?
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 4:16am; Reply: 25
Quoted from Lola
have you been adding trehalose?
What? ??) ??)
Posted by: Spring, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 4:25am; Reply: 26
Quoted from Lola
have you been adding trehalose?

I started to mention the same thing earlier! Certainly seems that it would be a fit, doesn't it?
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 5:16am; Reply: 27
Quoted from Lola
have you been adding trehalose?


Yes...  It seems to have increased the symptoms, so I assume that means it has helped speed up the healing.  
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 5:42am; Reply: 28
Quoted from TJ
What? ??) ??)

TJ,
Trehalose Complex is a new supplement from DPN that stimulates MTOR independent autophagy.
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP067

Here is a blog by Dr. D. about it:
http://n-equals-one.com/blogs/2011/12/22/1851/

He also posted an audio presentation that I can't find at the moment.  The title is mTOR Independent Autophagy.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 5:44am; Reply: 29
it is doing its thing no doubt!

I too fell as a child, 1 whole floor when playing on the banister......

but on my but!!!!

recurrent sciatica pain throughout my youth and adolescence, motherhood....
bladder infections.....bla bla.....
bt/gt guidelines has left those way behind, never to return

I find your healing journey fascinating!!
keep us posted
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 5:47am; Reply: 30
Glad you are better.  It is stories like that and of course that I see progress in myself that keep me going.  

I'm sure it will be better when finished...  Right now it is plenty annoying. ;)
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 5:47am; Reply: 31
here s the audio

http://generativemedicine.org/blogs/dadamolab/?p=106
Posted by: yaeli, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 6:06am; Reply: 32
My cranio-sacral therapist explains to me that the cranial plates are in constant movement. Actually every single organ and system has its own breathing rhythm and directions.
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 6:23am; Reply: 33
I read the blog on trehalose when it was first published but I had not idea that it would apply to this situation.  Maybe I should read it again.
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 12:29pm; Reply: 34
Here is on exercise for EVERYONE .. for back and neck pain and for RELAXATION while doing GOOD for you!.  Especially those who jog and push their body forward, thus creating a hunchback stance when getting older..

1)   Choose a time when you can spend 20 minutes beginning to end.. take the phone with you or let it ring.. take eye shades with you or listen to TV .. just don't read a book as it would bend your neck.

2)   THE IDEAL here would be IF you can do it without many books or just a skinny one under your head. But to start with, take as many books needed to be comfortable as that is most important -- this is not a one time CORRECTION.

3)   If you can get on the floor (and get up again) lye on the floor and place your knees and feet in a square angle over the couch, scoot close to the couch to support your knees but not hanging from them........   If you are not able to get off the floor, then build a couch pillow tower on your bed.  

4)   Support your head comfortably. Eventually you will only need a one inch book/pillow.

5)    Now lie down for 20 minutes with your arms comfortable.

6)    After a while put your hands on the floor straight out and rotate one arm at a time (holding the shoulder with the other hand to feel the shoulder rotation.) Turn the hand 'out' slowly and 'in' again making sure that you move the shoulder cuff but NO STRESS.... Then shift to the other side and do the other arm and shoulder a few times.   Essentially tou will not feel any changes .. but the body knows what to do.. ALLOW it - to do it..

7)    Now push ONE shoulder at a time into the floor comfortably.. for a few seconds.. feel the pull back across to the other side hip.  Repeat a few times and relax then do the other side..  

GENTLY is the key to this 20 minutes RELAXATION of your NECK and WHOLE spine/ adjusting ONE nerve at a time.. Until you lengthen the spins to where you only need a one inch book/pillow.. The BODY will readjust it SELF..    Do this and you will save more money on chiros ..

Price 850 please send it to me.. Pretending I am the doctor on 5th Ave. .. A price well worth having paid for.. This is the true value of my sharing his instructions with you.  Haha

THE IDEAL is sleeping position would be on 1/8 of your side.. by pulling up the leg on the bed into more fetal position by 3 inches and the top leg being more straight.. thus moving your body off the shoulder and collarbone..
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 4:53pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from TJ
I read the blog on trehalose when it was first published but I had not idea that it would apply to this situation.  Maybe I should read it again.

I read the part where neurodegenerative diseases was mentioned and thought that if trehalose helped clean up cellular parts damaged in construction, it would probably help those damaged by trauma as well...

Some of the damage may also be to the myelin, which is described as the insulation around the nerve fiber, and I recently learned that iodine and selenium are necessary for healthy myelin.  Of course, this information was presented in a one-size-fits-all presentation, but I can find sources that are good for me!
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 5:13pm; Reply: 36
I THINK WITH --- TREHALOSE we NEED to distinguish it form TREHALOSE COMPLEX by Dr D..    

Maybe we could call it TC and know what we mean.. because as I indicated in another thread one can buy the trehalose as a sugar 'substitute' and still do less harm than by using sugar.  

If one just googles Trehalose- one gets the 'trehalose sugar' but does NOT get the more expensive additional items contained in the TC from by Dr D and one would not be able to get the same 'scrubbing' action ... as far as I figure..  

I like Trehalose Complex as a supplement IN (SUGARY) powder form (nice)(finally no capsules!!!)
recommended dose -1 Teaspoon with grapefruit, lemon or lime, as suggested by DR D.
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 7:25pm; Reply: 37
I got it, Joe.  Maybe I should look into it for my gut lining damage.
Posted by: Sun, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 9:38pm; Reply: 38
I have been taking Trehalose Complex since January and have experienced the same ear clogging sensation. I was so worried about it- thought it was due to nutritional yeast (excito-toxin? histamines?) which I stopped.

The clogging has subsided but still comes and goes. I was just beginning to suspect TC and hoped it was a good sign.

Thank you, ABJoe for updating this thread today- I just so happened to see it!
Posted by: Spring, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 10:06pm; Reply: 39
Has anyone experienced any UNalarming, good "sensations" from taking TC? It seems as if there is the possibility that the alarming "benefits" are taking the stage and possibly the exciting benefits are getting less attention. I certainly would like to hear about them though. Of course, we know that some things take months and years to correct. It is a pity that patience doesn't come in pills!
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 10:09pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from TJ
I got it, Joe.  Maybe I should look into it for my gut lining damage.

I'm sure it wouldn't hurt...

There are lots of things that help the gut lining.  I would make sure I was getting lots of ghee, I really like Intrinsa, and I know you are taking lots of probiotics.  
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 10:18pm; Reply: 41
Quoted from yaeli
My cranio-sacral therapist explains to me that the cranial plates are in constant movement.

I don't doubt this, but I'm sure it isn't to the same extent I have experienced it.  The back of the top of my head has crowned probably 1/4 of an inch in the last 2 or 3 years...  When the major movement was happening, it was a major effort to walk around, much less try to get anything done.
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 14, 2012, 10:32pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from Spring
Has anyone experienced any UNalarming, good "sensations" from taking TC?

I don't get that alarmed by any symptoms anymore...  I note them and attempt to determine if they are indicating something beneficial or detrimental and act accordingly...

I also can't pin any specific symptoms on the addition of Trehalose - more just a little increase the nerve tingling in the head/spine and a little decrease in appetite...
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, April 15, 2012, 3:28am; Reply: 43
I've loved Trehalose since the first time I tried it.  It feels very clean in my throat and stomach.  I definitely experience more vitality when I take it and my eyesight seems clearer.  Also my mind is more clear too.

A couple of things seems like cleansing processes or 'healing crises' -- I get occasional bumps that arise on a shoulder or wrist or back;  after a few days, the bump dries up, crusts over and falls off.  These are the size of a sesame seed and I don't have those otherwise.  I just think that my body is dumping some of the cellular stuff that the Trehalose is clearing out.

One other thing is weird and maybe relates to ABJoe's "increase the nerve tingling in the head/spine".  With me, it's not head and spine, but tops of my feet and around under the feet across the arches.  Also a little bit on the front of my shins.  A definite activation of some kind on those nerve endings.  I'm just watching and waiting to see how it pans out.  

I did check it out with my doctor who said he didn't think it was signaling any illness.  So, I'm assuming the Trehalose is doing its' work.
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, April 15, 2012, 12:16pm; Reply: 44
TC is interesting in the way it works.. seems to work.. since I have no prof other then my say so based on maybe that is what it is..

My tongue has cleared itself of white stuff; first time in my life..

I feel lighter inside.. hard to describe..

I tried it today ..instead of breakfast or nothing to eat (dieting in a specific ways so don't go there) I tried a spoon of trehalose complex on blueberries.. First I just ate the TC then a few about 10 blueberries and HUNGER is gone..

Throat seems clear, no drip, thought that my eyeballs feel better not the sight YET so I can tell..

I have Neuropathy the real term is poli.. meaning all over, nerve pain or nerve damage/pain.. tingling is too much said.. but as of late the ankles up to my knees really seem to FEEL cold in the evening, having me go so far as putting on socks (which I NEVER wear) and needing to warm up.  I would like to think it is showing awakening of some nerve cells.  On my feet, the spots that I have been treating with other methods (ondamed.net) they seem to have normal feelings now, but I would say I was 98% better from treating them.. awakening of nerves has its drawback.. but feels right..

as for the  cranial movements my exercise list above is so easy to do.. try it.. in my case my neck needs a little towel under it or the muscles get weak.. from a whiplash.. and my head does not have the strength to stay right side up so I bunch the towel on either side giving those muscle a rest from holding up my head all day and at night being all crunched sleeping on my side..

THE IDEAL is sleeping on 1/8 of your side.. by pulling up the leg on the bed into more fetal position by 3 inches and the top leg being more straight.. thus moving your body off the shoulder and collarbone..    

    
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Posted by: AKArtlover, Thursday, September 27, 2012, 5:57pm; Reply: 45
Back to the cranial...

Any updates on your experience?

I think it OMT/cranial is amazing tool. I want to learn a bit about that 'body talk' as well.

Looking into osteopathic college as a long term goal.


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iodine and selenium are necessary for healthy myelin

GRACIAS.
Posted by: BluesSinger, Thursday, September 27, 2012, 6:35pm; Reply: 46
I LOVE THIS THREAD!!  Thanks all for posting.  

So..from the overall conversation... I take it, we all get worse before we get better once we start on heavy compliance?  
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, September 27, 2012, 11:58pm; Reply: 47
Quoted from BluesSinger
So..from the overall conversation... I take it, we all get worse before we get better once we start on heavy compliance?  

I hesitate to say that we get worse before we get better.  

In my opinion, we become more aware of pain that either we ignored or was masked by overloaded nerve centers.  Most of the symptoms I have had during the healing process are pain I had earlier, it is that now that I have a low avoid lectin diet, that the old areas seem to be doing additional healing.

The only set of symptoms that seem to be new are those related to the cranial healing / reshaping that is in progress.  I assume that this is due to my cranium not developing "normally" (mine developed a flat top on the back half of my head) after a fall at about age 7 due to nerve damage, high avoid diet or a combination of these or additional reasons...  It may be that I just don't remember how bad it hurt at the time of the fall, or that since the pressures are all changing in the head, that these symptoms are similar to someone having a traumatic cranial incident / concussion, etc...
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, September 28, 2012, 12:13am; Reply: 48
Quoted from AKArtlover
Back to the cranial...

Any updates on your experience?

The cranium is still adding curve both side-to-side and front to back on the back half of the top of my head.  I am still having some nausea and dizziness, but the intensity is less, so that most of the time it is only after some exertion and usually passes in about 10 to 15 seconds.  I still have ringing in the ears and the frequency and intensity varies widely.  I did have 2 days, apart from each other in the last month where I had almost no ringing for the whole day, though.  Something that hasn't happened in probably 10 or more years.  I still have intense TMJ, neck and upper back pain, but I keep stretching and moving so these areas don't fixate, etc.  If the TMJ gets out of place from nerve induced muscle spasms, I get an intense headache - so I watch this closely.  The TMJ is healing as well, as I have a much smoother glide now than I did for many years.  There used to be much noise in my ears when I chewed from the "gravel" in the TMJ joint.

It is progress - however slow.  I would rather not have this move too fast, as these symptoms are intense enough most of the time.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Friday, September 28, 2012, 5:56pm; Reply: 49
Thanks for the update ABJoe.

Just wondering if you take any supplements or focus on foods that support the nervous system...
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, September 28, 2012, 6:13pm; Reply: 50
Quoted from AKArtlover
Just wondering if you take any supplements or focus on foods that support the nervous system...

I am taking Trehalose Complex to assist nerve healing.  

Otherwise, I am eating as the body directs to provide the "medicinals" needed.

When needed, I take digestive or detox aids to handle detox products being removed from the liver or lymph system.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Friday, September 28, 2012, 6:21pm; Reply: 51
Are you doing a lot of this intuitively?
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, September 28, 2012, 6:29pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from AKArtlover
Are you doing a lot of this intuitively?

To a certain extent, "Yes."  I started by using a practitioner who practices using Muscle Response Testing.  I practiced until I can ignore any "desire" and focus on "need".  I've tested the accuracy many times when the practitioner is testing that I know that I am accurate, so this removes any hesitation I have to using it.  Through the last 10 or so years, my body has gotten so sensitive to what it needs, that (most of the time) all I have to do is walk through the kitchen (or grocery store) and allow myself to be drawn to what it needs.  I know this isn't something that everyone is able to do, so don't "advertise" it too much.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Friday, September 28, 2012, 9:38pm; Reply: 53
Thanks. That seems to be the direction I am headed as well. I went through a period where I seemed to need a huge variety and amount of supplements (sometimes my analytical mind was shocked-- but no negative affect that I could tell) and then it has been tapering off with just some supps occassionally and foods I couldn't eat for a long time are coming back into the mix as being good choices. I take this as getting to a point where I am getting what I need from actually digesting the food instead of it going unprocessed into my system and then having immune reactions.

I have been malnourished for a long time with gut issues.

Digestive enzymes have helped tremendously and are the one thing I am drawn to consistently, but the other day I "forgot" after eating a full meal and was an hour from home and several hours from returning home. No pain or negative consequence. Big victory.

I am seeing/meeting/discovering other people that are doing well with this concept. I was a little weirded out by it at first because it doesn't seem "scientific" i.e. 200 mg/ 3x per day but I do think I am getting better results. I take it as my body knows what it needs; I just need to pay attention. I do think that a gut that has flora imbalance influences thinking though and creates cravings for what "it" needs and not necessarily what is best for you.

I do agree, though, that it is a process and it takes a certain level of awareness. I like that "need" vs. "desire" distinction. Hmm....

Yeah, I don't really advertise it either. My husband gets it, as does my local doctor (THANK GOD!), but it is pretty out of sync with the way American culture thinks.

I use food based supplements whenever I can.

Eating tremendous amounts of acerola cherry extract lately. Whole food, but insane amounts of vitamin C over what was listed on the RDA on the side. 1.5 tsp=500% and I am calling for like 4-5 TABLESPOONS. No diarrea or other ill effects. Watching the rotation to keep it spaced so I definitely won't create a reaction from consuming multiple days in a row.


Plan to put Trehelose into the repertoire of choices soon. Haven't even read the 500 post plus thread. Doing lots of detox/rebuild right now, so we'll see. 8)
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, September 29, 2012, 12:16am; Reply: 54
Quoted from AKArtlover
I went through a period where I seemed to need a huge variety and amount of supplements (sometimes my analytical mind was shocked-- but no negative affect that I could tell) and then it has been tapering off with just some supps occassionally and foods I couldn't eat for a long time are coming back into the mix as being good choices. I take this as getting to a point where I am getting what I need from actually digesting the food instead of it going unprocessed into my system and then having immune reactions.

I did much the same...  Only for years before Eat Right, I kept getting worse.  Once I started ER, it took some time and LOADS of supplements to get the digestion back to mostly working.  I still have work to be done there, as my white lines are not totally gone, but definitely have gotten much better.

Quoted from AKArtlover
I have been malnourished for a long time with gut issues.

Once I found ER, my appetite started tapering down some and I made the comment to WW that I had been eating like a pig, had actually developed a layer of fat(toxic waste), but starving to death...

Quoted from AKArtlover
...but I do think I am getting better results. I take it as my body knows what it needs; I just need to pay attention. I do think that a gut that has flora imbalance influences thinking though and creates cravings for what "it" needs and not necessarily what is best for you.

I get better results when I follow my body.  I like Dr. D's statement (paraphrased) that anytime you put something into a complex system that it doesn't need, you reduce its robustness.  This is why I let it make the call.

I agree that flora imbalances (or spinal misalignment) can have negative effects on accuracy of the testing.  Most of the time, it makes two opposing tests result in the same answer, so it is easy to see that there is a problem.  I can usually go rest for a bit or stretch to move the spine and correct the testing errors within anywhere from 1 to 12 hours...

Quoted from AKArtlover
Yeah, I don't really advertise it either. My husband gets it, as does my local doctor (THANK GOD!), but it is pretty out of sync with the way American culture thinks.

Indeed.  My family and practitioner get it, but the rest of the world is ???.  I test WW and DD for supps. as well and they do well based on the tests...

Quoted from AKArtlover
Watching the rotation to keep it spaced so I definitely won't create a reaction from consuming multiple days in a row.
I never get a reaction to something I need - unless it is part of a reaction I've had in the past and need to clear the "memory" of the reaction out of the allergy record in the hypothalamus...


Quoted from AKArtlover
Plan to put Trehelose into the repertoire of choices soon. Haven't even read the 500 post plus thread. Doing lots of detox/rebuild right now, so we'll see.

The best parts of that thread are the links to the autophagy talk, Dr. D.'s blog about autophagy - thought there was a third, but can't remember it now...
Posted by: AKArtlover, Saturday, September 29, 2012, 2:01am; Reply: 55
Quoted from ABJoe

need to clear the "memory" of the reaction out of the allergy record in the hypothalamus...


Fascinating.

This is such a great forum. :)
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