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Posted by: nodoubt147, Monday, May 31, 2010, 11:11pm
I seem to be very sensitive/intolerant of dairy products. Even raw goat's milk cheese is an issue. I've been trying to take grass-fed ghee in and out of my diet. I think it gives me a bit of nausea. I feel like I could benefit from ghee's butyrate. Any opinions? I know all the proteins from ghee should be eliminated. So why am I still having a reaction?
Posted by: jayneeo, Monday, May 31, 2010, 11:22pm; Reply: 1
you might consider whether you take it with food or not, and see if that has any effect... it is a very special food and can heal the gut.
Posted by: nodoubt147, Monday, May 31, 2010, 11:57pm; Reply: 2
I do eat it with food.
Posted by: Lloyd, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 12:22am; Reply: 3
You can get the butyrate as a supplement. NAP has a version (Intrinsa).
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 1:21am; Reply: 4
Are you making your own or buying ready made?  
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 1:45am; Reply: 5
ever thought of a liver cleanse, maybe even weekly for starts....
work on your liver, follow the protocol

this might help
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1275078409/s-25/#num25
Posted by: narnia, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 1:47am; Reply: 6
I used to cook with butter all the time pre-BTD, and I thought I was fine, but since getting on BTD, I bought some ghee and cooked something in it, and it just sort of turned my stomach.  I wonder why the diff?  Do we need to eat ghee?  Is this essential?
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:03am; Reply: 7
a compromised gut and liver function my very well not tolerate the goodness of butyrate

first things first....heal the gut and organ function, then comes the rest
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:18am; Reply: 8
Quoted from narnia
... but since getting on BTD, I bought some ghee and cooked something in it, and it just sort of turned my stomach.  I wonder why the diff?  Do we need to eat ghee?  Is this essential?


I would guess that the good stuff in the ghee prompted something in the gut to cause the reaction - whether it was junk or flora balance...

Ghee is really good for healing the gut, so you may be doing yourself a disservice if you choose to not eat it...
Posted by: narnia, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:19am; Reply: 9
Is there a brand that's purer than another?  This particular ghee had a yellowish tint.
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:42am; Reply: 10
Ghee made from organic butter may have less pesticide in it or ???  

Usually ghee is yellow with a slight grainy texture, with maybe a small amount of liquid oil on top...  I usually make my own, so I've never looked for brands, etc. of ghee.
Posted by: pegf1008, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:46am; Reply: 11
I am extremely sensitive to milk, both the lactose and the proteins, but I have had no problems with ghee. I make my own. I can tell the difference between days that I use ghee and days that I don't because I feel worse when I do not use it.
Posted by: nodoubt147, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 2:56am; Reply: 12
I am buying one that comes from grass-fed cows in Colorado. I have done several liver cleanses. I work at a health food store. You know from all this feed back, I will try again and report back. I do want to experience the benefits from the ghee.
Posted by: narnia, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 3:19am; Reply: 13
I bought the ghee, but used it only once, and didn't like the taste it gave me, so I quit.  I didn't pursue the matter, because it's listed as a neutral for Os in LR4YT.

I have stuck to OO, because that is listed as a beneficial.  So, this is the first that I'm hearing of it as being needful for healing the gut.  What exactly does it do for the gut?  How does it heal?  I thought that EVOO would do the job.  How does ghee differ in its function for the gut?
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 3:34am; Reply: 14
Here from Dr. D...
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2009/01/15/butyrate-and-ghee?blog=27

Another blogger:
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/blog1.php/recipes-sg/quick-ghee-for-cooking
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 3:35am; Reply: 15
use this sup instead
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP054
here read all about the benefits
http://www.4yourtype.com/intrinsa.asp


this should convince you :)
and the link Joe gave you above
Posted by: narnia, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 5:38am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Lola
use this sup instead
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP054
here read all about the benefits
http://www.4yourtype.com/intrinsa.asp


this should convince you :)
and the link Joe gave you above


So, you recommend this over using ghee?  If ghee is so wonderful, I wonder why Dr. D didn't put it in the beneficial column for the Os?

So...then it stand to reason that people in India should never get colon cancer, since they cook all of their food in ghee.  However, my ex-fiance's father died of colon cancer.   ::)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:51am; Reply: 17
you mentioned not liking the taste of ghee
this is the reason I am recommending the sup

I do love my ghee! ;)
Posted by: balletomane, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 7:11am; Reply: 18
Narnia,
I think whether ghee is beneficial for you or not may be an individual thing. When I did my SWAMI, ghee has become a bennie  ;)

With the case of your ex-fiance's father, I guess there were many other contributors to his colon cancer, so that the ghee alone was not enough to save him  :-/.
Posted by: narnia, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:06pm; Reply: 19
Well...this is very strange!  I used to love the smell of butter prior to BTD.  I ate popcorn with butter on it and loved it.  I used butter to cook most of my food.

I just pulled out the ghee again for oil to cook the steak, and I just can't even stand the smell of the oil!  It almost gives me a headache!  What gives?
Posted by: narnia, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:08pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from balletomane
Narnia,
I think whether ghee is beneficial for you or not may be an individual thing. When I did my SWAMI, ghee has become a bennie  ;)

With the case of your ex-fiance's father, I guess there were many other contributors to his colon cancer, so that the ghee alone was not enough to save him  :-/.


Yeah.  I expected this type of answer.  :B   It was very late and I was very tired when I wrote the above.  Not thinking very clearly.  He was a very bitter man, and also highly introverted, so that he never spoke his mind.  Bitterness can kill you!   :o
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:16pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from narnia
I just pulled out the ghee again for oil to cook the steak, and I just can't even stand the smell of the oil!  It almost gives me a headache!  What gives?

Is this ghee that you made?  
How old is it?  
I would definitely not use that if it is almost giving you a headache. :o  :P  
Doesn't sound like my experience with ghee! ;D

Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:16pm; Reply: 22
If your body really is repelled by the ghee, I would say don't worry about it at this time.  Just move on and focus on your other good fats and maybe at a later date your tastes will change.  This does happen quite commonly as people eat for their type for an extended time.

The Intrinsia is quite a healer, but I'll warn that if the smell/taste of ghee is horrible for you, you may really not like the smell of Intrinsia.   ;)
Posted by: narnia, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:20pm; Reply: 23
Quoted from ABJoe

Is this ghee that you made?  
How old is it?  
I would definitely not use that if it is almost giving you a headache. :o  :P  
Doesn't sound like my experience with ghee! ;D



I just bought it a couple of months ago, and it's been in the fridge the whole time.  It smells just like butter, which I used to love, but can't stand the smell of anymore.

This one is not organic.  Maybe I should buy some organic butter and try making some of my own?   ::)
Posted by: narnia, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 6:25pm; Reply: 24
Surely there must be other ways to provide this benefit to the colon.  
What about countries that don't use milk products, like in some Asian countries?  

What was the natural thing that they could have eaten to derive this same benefit, as not everyone has the knowledge or ability to take these supplements.
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 7:11pm; Reply: 25
Quoted Text
Butyrate, a fatty acid, comes from two dietary sources. First, it is one of the metabolic end products of unabsorbed dietary carbohydrate that has been bacterially fermented in the gut. Butyrate is the single biggest metabolite of fiber. Second, the only direct source in the diet is from butter, which contains 3% butyrate. Adequate amounts of butyrate are necessary for the health of the large intestine cells.

It has a particularly important role in the colon, where it is the preferred substrate for energy generation by colonic cells. Whether by supplement or by enema, a few pilot studies suggest it is useful in reducing symptoms and restoring indicators of colon health in ulcerative colitis, but one study showed no benefit over placebo. Several doctors claim that many people are helped with butyrate enemas. Butyrate levels are commonly measured in comprehensive stool analyses and act as a marker for levels of beneficial bacteria.

Butyrate has been shown to significantly inhibit the growth of cancerous colon cells. Scientists have found a human gene that stops the growth of cancer cells when activated by fiber processing in the colon. Although scientists have long linked butyrate to overall reductions in the incidence of colon cancer, the molecular basis of that benefit has remained largely unknown. Butyrate effects a chemical "unloosening" of molecules that otherwise bind and constrict the activity of the p21 gene. This gene is responsible for the manufacture of p21 protein, a compound that slows the growth of cancer cells. A separate study has indicated a possible benefit in breast cancer prevention.


http://www.digitalnaturopath.com/treat/T242313.html#G996
Posted by: jayneeo, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 7:32pm; Reply: 26
Awesome, ABJoe! Thanks.
Posted by: nodoubt147, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:36am; Reply: 27
Well I had a serving with my breakfast this morning. About 1 tsp. Everything seemed to go ok. No negative reaction. :) I will continue to try and use it slowly and monitor the results.
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:39am; Reply: 28
Quoted from jayneeo
Awesome, ABJoe! Thanks.


;D
Posted by: MileHighRob, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 2:10am; Reply: 29
Quoted from nodoubt147
Well I had a serving with my breakfast this morning. About 1 tsp. Everything seemed to go ok. No negative reaction. :) I will continue to try and use it slowly and monitor the results.

Great news nd!  I hope you're able to continue without negative reactions to it and are able to get to the point where it becomes a staple in your diet.  
Posted by: narnia, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 2:38am; Reply: 30
So..if butter is 3% butyrate, how much does ghee have?

The ghee that I bought when heated, smells like theater popcorn butter, which I have never liked.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 3:25am; Reply: 31
don t buy ghee......nothing compares to home made

don t know about the butyrate amount, but if you dislike ghee so much, supplement instead with intrinsa
the quantity is stated on the ingredient facts
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 4:04am; Reply: 32
Quoted from narnia
So..if butter is 3% butyrate, how much does ghee have?

The ghee that I bought when heated, smells like theater popcorn butter, which I have never liked.

There isn't a huge loss when making ghee from butter...  A pound of butter is 2 cups and I usually get just less than a pint of ghee from each pound of butter...

If you don't like this smell, you probably won't like the smell when making ghee...  But then again, it may be an acquired smell... ;)  
Posted by: narnia, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 5:37pm; Reply: 33
Well!  I'm going to attempt to make my own ghee today!!  I'll report back later!   :)
Posted by: nodoubt147, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 5:53pm; Reply: 34
Again, no negative reaction on having a small amount this morning. Do you feel like it's best to obtain it from ghee instead of supplementing?
Posted by: narnia, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 6:07pm; Reply: 35
That's encouraging!!  I'm no expert, and I'm sure that others will answer your question, but I would tend to think that getting any kind of nutrition directly from food would always be better than supplementing, as it contains all the accompanying nutrients that would work synergistically.
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