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Posted by: mhameline, Monday, May 3, 2010, 1:12pm
I've been struggling with carpel tunnel type pain in my wrists and elbows lately and I really need to get the avoids back out of my diet.  Can gluten, corn, coffee cause those types of symptoms in an O?  
Posted by: Jane, Monday, May 3, 2010, 1:15pm; Reply: 1
Missy,
It's great to see you here!  Don't have an answer for you but just glad to see you!
How's Jordan?
Jane
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 3, 2010, 1:44pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from mhameline
I've been struggling with carpel tunnel type pain in my wrists and elbows lately and I really need to get the avoids back out of my diet.  Can gluten, corn, coffee cause those types of symptoms in an O?  



Yes, yes and yes! Also not enough exercise will do it for you as a type O too. Stretching from your pec all the way through to your wrist... make sure you extend gently and don't over stretch. Just go till you feel it lightly. A bit of flex and than stretch also helps. But yes, seriously take out the gluten first and foremost! Ouch! And any dairy you might be eating.
Posted by: NewHampshireGirl, Monday, May 3, 2010, 2:01pm; Reply: 3
May I suggest Topricin cream for pain control while you are adjusting your diet.  My homeopath told me about this and it has been wonderful for my sciatic nerve pain lately.  I'm trying to get that pain under control with exercises my chiropractor has given me.  You can get Topricin at iherb.com or at your natural foods store. (sunny)
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Monday, May 3, 2010, 3:44pm; Reply: 4
Quoted from NewHampshireGirl
May I suggest Topricin cream for pain control while you are adjusting your diet.  My homeopath told me about this and it has been wonderful for my sciatic nerve pain lately.  I'm trying to get that pain under control with exercises my chiropractor has given me.  You can get Topricin at iherb.com or at your natural foods store. (sunny)


Have you tried Yoga for your sciatic pain.  There are a couple of "hip opener" positions that cured it for me.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 3, 2010, 3:51pm; Reply: 5
have you been eating dairy?
Posted by: NewHampshireGirl, Monday, May 3, 2010, 5:32pm; Reply: 6
Good suggestion, DenverFoodie.  Right now I'm sticking to exercises.  :)
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 3, 2010, 6:03pm; Reply: 7
YES YES IT WILL in fact be the avoids..no doubt about that so one week off all but BENEFICIAL's or even SUPER BENEFICIALS> will make all the difference..

THEN secondly: find a person in your are who has a ZYTO machine.. a chiro or someone .. its a thing that looks like a hand.. you place yours on it and out comes a computer report.. and with it you can determine which minerals you need... FOR ME that was Ligaplex ll form Standard Process.  and I took them as often as I had pain again.. as often as needed.  then in several month later I was down to several times day.. and then later even less as my pain did not come back..  NOTHING like it .. (and not advertised that way- but for me it worked better than any painkiller meds)

BUT EATING right is a must first and foremost or you will spend time and money and surgery.. for no darn reason...

now before ever considering surgery... find Dr who will do Prolo..  http://www.getprolo.com.. see my signature.. its painless and permanent..
Posted by: Sky, Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:06am; Reply: 8
I find that washing dishes seems to make my carpal tunnel pains go away. I think qigong helps to, since a fair amount of it involves arm and wrist movements.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:32am; Reply: 9
can you come over and heal your CT pains away!?? ;) ;D
Posted by: AKArtlover, Friday, May 21, 2010, 10:09am; Reply: 10
CTS is associated with forward head posture (as is a whole lot of other things). Cause/effect not proven, but if this is an issue for you, may be good to correct for other reasons too...
http://www.chiro.org/LINKS/Forward_Head_Posture.shtml
Posted by: Lola, Friday, May 21, 2010, 4:43pm; Reply: 11
more on the same
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/config.pl?read=75392
Posted by: geminisue, Saturday, May 22, 2010, 12:45am; Reply: 12
Hot water helps to ease the pain, especially at its worse, at night try wear close fitting gloves that go up the arm.  
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, May 22, 2010, 1:20am; Reply: 13
Good tips about hot water.  I found that relaxation is really important, meditation where you relax the areas.  With me part of it was tensing under stress.

If you get symptoms at night from sleeping positions where the wrist is bent, get a wrist brace or use a compression bandage to support and bind the wrist straight before bed.  Later, when the swelling goes down you may just need a pillow next to you (if you sleep on your side) to rest the wrist on so it doesn't bend too much.

I had tendonitis really bad and probably CTS, thought it would never go away but with the right diet (especially wheat and corn - your avoids may be different) it's almost gone completely, only comes back when I'm really tired now.   (Also stopped my high data entry job) :)
Posted by: MileHighRob, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 5:44pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Sky
I find that washing dishes seems to make my carpal tunnel pains go away...

Quoted from Lola
can you come over and heal your CT pains away!?? ;) ;D

hahaha Lola too funny.  ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 10:59pm; Reply: 15
Good link Lola, interesting Heidi's experience with sugar, but not surprising!
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sugar/my experience

Posted By: Heidi O+
Date: Wednesday, 6 December 2000, at 2:32 p.m.

In Response To: Carpel Tunnel (Scamp A+)

I had carp-tunnel a few weeks ago. I gave up sugar and the pain immediately
went away- 100%-100%!!!
It was so painful I could not even take notes in school- holding the pen
was agonizing in itself.
I think mine is related to candidia problems, but I thought you'd like this
information, cause, who knows- if it could ease you like it eased me- and it was
helpful within 24 hrs of going off sugar- the relief was amazing.
I also believe that if you begin a yoga program it will immensely help.

Best to you,

Heidi
:) :)
Posted by: Stargate, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:05pm; Reply: 16
Don't know if this would also be helpful, but there is a book called The Egoscue Method of Health Through Motion by Pete Egoscue, and it talks specifically in one place about 'carpal tunnel' syndrome as almost always being the result of a shoulder dysfunction. Fix the shoulder dysfunction and the carpal tunnel goes away. Hope this helps :)
Posted by: Stargate, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:16pm; Reply: 17
Also, mhameline.....i may have written this somewhere else (or not)....but anyway, although this is not specifically carpal tunnel, i did have an experience several months ago, where i thought i would have to give up rock climbing (for life). I truly thought i was done for as far as climbing, as the 'arthritis' in my hands and fingers was so painful. It even got to where, at night when i would pull my pillow in close to my chest to wrap my arm around, I had to do so with my wrists as i couldn't 'grip' the pillow and pull. I felt like my arms were 'flippers' with useless appendiges (hands/fingers).  Long story short....i was already off sugar/processessed foods, dairy, but still clung to my coffee. I gave up the coffee and the pain is a distant memory (comletely). Afterward i was climbing 2 hour stints with no pain whatsoever. I didn't read all of the posts so i don't even know if you are drinking coffee but like you i am an O....so who knows if carpal tunnel would also respond to eliminating coffee. Certainly (as i think i read above)sugar would have to go! All the best, :)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, May 24, 2010, 2:31am; Reply: 18
Quoted from Stargate
Don't know if this would also be helpful, but there is a book called The Egoscue Method of Health Through Motion by Pete Egoscue, and it talks specifically in one place about 'carpal tunnel' syndrome as almost always being the result of a shoulder dysfunction. Fix the shoulder dysfunction and the carpal tunnel goes away. Hope this helps :)


Egoscue is awesome. He has a DVD called Pain Free Workout.

http://www.amazon.com/Egoscue-Pain-Free-Workout-Vol/dp/B000PAU2ZS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1274667573&sr=8-1

I have been going to chiro for over 2 years and it has helped put my body in better allignment than ever. The concept is to use every muscle every day in a strategic way and let the body gradually increase it's range of motion. It has really helped me with little aches and pains and owies from doing something that hurt because it wasn't a normal motion for me.

Sleeping on your side and hence your shoulder/arm can cause issue in the hands as well. I was getting CTS like pain on one side only. The chiro inevitably pulled the shoulder/elbow to release the tendons. I do my best to sleep on my back, but sometimes I end up on my side. Old habits sometimes die hard.

The sugar idea. I feel processed sugar when I ingest it unintentionally as I haven't consumed it in significant amounts in several years. I feel achy in the muscles and brain fog.

Posted by: shoulderblade, Monday, May 24, 2010, 4:24am; Reply: 19
Quoted from Stargate
Don't know if this would also be helpful, but there is a book called The Egoscue Method of Health Through Motion by Pete Egoscue, and it talks specifically in one place about 'carpal tunnel' syndrome as almost always being the result of a shoulder dysfunction. Fix the shoulder dysfunction and the carpal tunnel goes away. Hope this helps :)


I think this is worth looking into. I have a sister who has carpel tunnel and claims the problem is really nerve pressure in the upper back and not in the wrist. Will ask her for more detail.

Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 24, 2010, 4:40am; Reply: 20
As a Massage Therapist dealing with carpal tunnel issues was something that became one of my specialties. I started getting carpal tunnel after years of work and it's fairly common in the profession. I fixed myself and through fixing my carpal tunnel I was able then to know how to help my clients.

Here is the very most simple way to explain it...

When the pectoral muscle on the front on the chest is tight it pulls on the upper back and causes pain through the upper back and neck. When the pec. gets tight the upper arm gets pulled tight, when the upper arm gets tight it pulls on the forearm and than in through the wrist.

By focusing on gentle pec stretching in which you also extend the wrist back and open up the arm all the way from the wrist to the finger tips will actually cause a light tingling sensation in through the fingers. Don't over extend! Just stretch lightly until you feel a little bit of a tingle or a stretch. Remember to extend and open all the way through to the finger tips. Stretch at shoulder height and than again at a higher height along the wall or door frame.

Also as you continue to eat for your BTD you will heal your inflammation issues.

As a side note... when you are already having inflammation issues and are in pain increasing the heat to the area just increases the inflammation. If you are feeling pain, ice it. If you are feeling tight and there is no pain, then go ahead and heat it up.
Posted by: Possum, Monday, May 24, 2010, 6:00am; Reply: 21
Quoted from Goldie
THEN secondly: find a person in your are who has a ZYTO machine.. a chiro or someone .. its a thing that looks like a hand.. you place yours on it and out comes a computer report.. and with it you can determine which minerals you need...
Wonder how widespread these machines are? Sounds like it would be great thing to access...Anyone else know?

Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 24, 2010, 9:20am; Reply: 22
Wow that does sound like a good idea! I'd love to know if anyone can answer that! Cool!
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 24, 2010, 10:32am; Reply: 23
Quoted Text
THEN secondly: find a person in your are who has a ZYTO machine.. a chiro or someone .. its a thing that looks like a hand.. you place yours on it and out comes a computer report.. and with it you can determine which minerals you need...

Wonder how widespread these machines are?

Sounds like it would be great thing to access...Anyone else know?


You can Google ZYTO.. the best read is the one on Zito is the one on what not to buy.. they are most comprehensive in telling you more about it, while it is their job to downgrade anything.. so read with on open mind..

NOW HERE is my experience..

1--- I had pain for a life time.. first from intestinal issues with dairy.. no more dairy .. life is good.. COMPLIANCE will help better than all the pills in the world.. (I KNOW because I bought them all) in the end food that is good for us is the right way to heal from the inside out.. takes no time or some time it does not matter...u will get there and its permanent........ until you go to the dark side.. I know about that also.. I am prone to forget.. BTD/GENO is King!

2--- I had been classified with 'near' lupus - and NERVE PAIN -fibro myalgia.. just a label for other stuff.. nerve issues are anything from tingle to tears from injuries, to cramps PMS and the like.. all LABELS..

3--- then finally diabetes- NEUROPATHY is the issue all along.. its painful at night and tingling restfulness cant sleep twitching and cramping and nerve path restrictions.. the slightest touch can trigger it.. sleep is near useless and is not really restful.. either by trying to stay motionless or one is twitching involuntary during sleep.

Going offffff sugar really helps a lot.. (even if you are not diabetic) as the sugar accumulates fluid to 'protect' the joints from the effects of sugar.. a scratchy substance .. as scratchy as sugar perhaps.. that fluid doe not move freely until the body figures out how to remove it.. if you eat sugar every day.. guess what the fluid stays and eventually we get arthritis.. YES this takes time but we have years to poison out body.. until we learn.. (and after I learn then I fight-back- stupidly)

EATING BTD/GENO and embracing it fully is the cure..

BUT in addition: the ZYTO: it is equipment that can measure what your body mineral composition is.  IT is obviously tied to the sale of some supplements, why else would any one have it in their office and spend time using it.. BUT this is my experience:  I took the test that takes a minute or less.. to find out I had all sorts of issues.. (see above I had pain every where)  If I remember about 10 items showed.. organ issues, other issues .. and when I suggested comparing it with (in my case) MANGANESE all the issues went away.. !!!

THE REASON of why I knew about the manganese,, I had accidentally taken it for ligament issues.. (Carpel Tunnel is ) and unexpectedly the pain went away within on hour.. (without other painkillers) I proceeded to test it again and again... to see if some or most of my pains would go away.. I kept taking 2 Standard Process LIGAPLEX ll capsules and the pain went away each time.. (follow your own info - I do not recommend anything medical-- )   at first every hour then after some weeks every 2 hours then after some months every 3-4 hour and eventually 3 times a day and then only at night.. !!!!!!! .. It was the first time I was out of pain.. during my whole life..

NOW it is my guess that I was lucky and found the mineral I needed.. but it is possible that the same would work for many.. as Ligaplex indicates what to use it for.. for me I am still taking Ligaplex as painkiller whenever I need it.. IN FACT after my hip surgery I got enormous cramps and the Hospital had nothing to give me.. so I checked myself out and at home took the Ligaplexll and was fine.. no pain and no need for qxyconton a pill I hate.. ..

I never felt ill effects from taking Ligaplexll MY way as NEEDED for pain.. ----  it is available in most Chiros offices.. or order direct..

NOW is will say that in the end we need to look at pain some more.. but for today.. for those in pain you figure it out your way.. I have recomended the same to my friends and it worked every time.. good for sleep also..  

a Zyto reading at the chiro's office is not expensive.. and might even be covered by the chiro that will make a UPPER BODY adjustment at the same time.. BUT TO FIX a dislocation/disturbance in a joint permanently,  please see my signature..
Posted by: Possum, Monday, May 24, 2010, 10:38am; Reply: 24
Cheers; I was considering whether it would be worth buying one for work... ;)
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 24, 2010, 10:50am; Reply: 25
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Cheers; I was considering whether it would be worth buying one for work...


I am considering it for my self.. one can rent them .. I wonder how world wide they are available.. Possum-  What work do you do?? and would you get Supplements?? or look up supplements in food .. see my links.. interesting finds on computer.. one could do it with all sorts of minerals .. interesting..  

here are links to manganese..

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/manganese/

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/manganese/

INterestingly I just learned that GREEN tea seems high in Manganese..  I dont like green tea?? but now I will research it more.. DrD .. was he on to something???????

http://www.zyto.com/

http://www.devicewatch.org/reports/zyto/overview.shtml  --- by the money making nay sayers..
Posted by: Possum, Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:07am; Reply: 26
Actually thanks for the reminder about manganese - I was studying up on minerals last week at work (I work in a Health Food Shop) & came to the conclusion that I could benefit from some more manganese rich foods and/or supplements... ;)

Whether you go for foods or supplements, I guess would come down to whether you could get the amounts you needed from foods...and whether there was any other issues going on as to being able to absorb enough...(like as in Ribbit's case)

& thanks for the links... ;)
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:08am; Reply: 27
look at these numbers.. in Tea::  
Rank Food Name  


Tea, instant, unsweetened, powder Manganese: 84mg  

Tea, instant, unsweetened, powder, decaffeinated Manganese: 84mg  

Tea, instant, unsweetened, powder, prepared Manganese: 78mg  

Tea, brewed, prepared with distilled water [black tea] Manganese: 44mg  

Tea, brewed, prepared with tap water [black tea] Manganese: 44mg  

Tea, brewed, prepared with tap water, decaffeinated [black tea] Manganese: 44mg  

Tea, ready-to-drink, unsweetened, WENDY'S, fast food, without ice Manganese: 27mg  

Salt, table Manganese: 20mg  

Epazote, raw Manganese: 19mg  

Spices, cloves, ground Manganese: 19mg  

Spices, saffron Manganese: 18mg  

Spices, cardamom Manganese: 18mg  
Posted by: Possum, Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:12am; Reply: 28
Powdered tea? Like as in instant tea ::) ??)
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:14am; Reply: 29
YES Possum... my Ligaplex ll also has VIT B .. so you are right abut the absorbtion - tea situation.. why are people so willing to drink tea?? we could have a discussion on that alone.. maybe tea makes us feel better.. washing out bad stuff / adding good stuff...and water at the same time..  

imagin when 'they' know what all is in food .. big pharma here they come.............

DRD is light years ahead of the rest of the world.. he talked about it before DNA .. testing was completed..

gosh if  we listed all foods ingreedients in this way.. I might even get to like green tea..  
Posted by: Possum, Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:17am; Reply: 30
There are green teas & there are green teas...some taste better than others... Years ago my Mother In law accidentally made me green tea, instead of earl grey (which does not compare when you are expecting the latter ::)... I was very polite & drank it ;D
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 24, 2010, 1:05pm; Reply: 31
that took courrage.. I don't like to drink either..

but I could buy tea powder and get the results maybe ?? I wonder can tea be hidden in broth.. ??)

I wonder what would be better for the body.. or the pocketbook..
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 24, 2010, 4:00pm; Reply: 32
and read mine as well!!! :P
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