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Posted by: balletomane, Friday, April 30, 2010, 11:44am
Intrigued by the BMI measurement, I did one here:
http://www.cdc.gov/healthyweight/assessing/bmi/adult_bmi/english_bmi_calculator/bmi_calculator.html

Here are my results:

Height: 5 feet, 3 inches
Weight: 96.5 pounds (99 pounds during period ::)!)

Your BMI is 17.1, indicating your weight is in the Underweight category for adults of your height. For your height, a normal weight range would be from 104 to 141 pounds.

Talk with your healthcare provider to determine possible causes of underweight and if you need to gain weight.

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I am wondering if this should be a concern for me... I remember a nurse at a clinic also told me that I am underweight. But I feel absolutely fine and happy with my weight and body shape. I am small-boned and Asian.

Perhaps I need a bit more fat for my progesterone production but... I am following SWAMI and feel better than ever in my life. I don't want to gain any more fat but I do feel hungry very often even if I follow the portion suggestions. Should I eat more beneficial animal protein or more frequent meals? Any suggestions?
Posted by: marjorie, Friday, April 30, 2010, 12:14pm; Reply: 1
I think you need to listen to your body-- I am 5'3 and weigh about 110-112..however, I feel I could lose 5 poundls and feel gret regardless of what anyone else says

how much fat are you eating? what about the carbs? do you workout?
Posted by: balletomane, Friday, April 30, 2010, 12:31pm; Reply: 2
Marjorie,

Well, my eyes are happy with how my body looks but the stomach is often growling  ;D.

I am eating roughly 2-3 tbsp of ghee/almond oil/sesame/olive oil a day, and whatever fat is in the meat. But I usually eat meat that is quite lean. I also eat an egg a day.

I have cut down my carb/grain consumption to about 2-3 cups a week but it slows down my metabolism and makes me drowsy. When I eat carb/grain I feel less hungry but more heavy/bloated.

I work out quite rigorously (ballet dancing) at least twice a week (1-1.5 hours each time), and then walk for 20-30 minutes a day.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, April 30, 2010, 12:39pm; Reply: 3
BMI is a very crude tool. Most adults' healthy weights fall into the "healthy weight range" BMI. Some adults are healthy at a higher weight, some at a lower. My "ideal weight" falls into the upper range of the "healthy weight" category. Yours falls below it.

We're all different.
Posted by: balletomane, Friday, April 30, 2010, 1:53pm; Reply: 4
That's true. We're all different. I remember doing the Genotype test and that my waist-to-hip ratio falls under the normal range. Besides, for my type--Hunter--it just feels right (at least for me) to be slim when in a healthy condition.
Posted by: marjorie, Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:16pm; Reply: 5
Maybe you could increase your portions? I know what you mean, I am hardly eating grains for the same reason.

also, what meats are you eating? any red meat?

do you eat fruit?
Posted by: RedLilac, Friday, April 30, 2010, 4:23pm; Reply: 6
Enjoy your underweight status now.  I was under weight for most of my life until I hit menopause.  It happened to my mother and female cousins too.  Now I have to be careful with how much I eat and make sure I get enough exercise.  I never even thought about it before.
Posted by: balletomane, Friday, April 30, 2010, 5:05pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from marjorie
Maybe you could increase your portions? I know what you mean, I am hardly eating grains for the same reason.

also, what meats are you eating? any red meat?

do you eat fruit?


I am thinking maybe I should eat more frequently because I tried upping my portions and ended up having my reflux back. Maybe I should have an extra little meal with protein in between lunch and dinner, coz I don't get to eat dinner till around 9 or 10 usually, and I get so cranky while my stomach complains loudly!

I'm eating beef, lamb and chicken, all of which are bennies for me.

Re: fruits, I eat 3 pcs of beneficial fruit a day--mango, banana and mangosteen are my favorite seasonal fruits right now ;D
Posted by: balletomane, Friday, April 30, 2010, 5:07pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from RedLilac
Enjoy your underweight status now.  I was under weight for most of my life until I hit menopause.  It happened to my mother and female cousins too.  Now I have to be careful with how much I eat and make sure I get enough exercise.  I never even thought about it before.


I do enjoy it right now, but then I also have pre-menopausal hormonal imbalance issue, which actually would benefit from having a bit more fat. I heard that it is Nature's blessing for menopausal women to gain some weight because the extra fat would help the body manufacture some estrogen to counter the drop of its level during menopause.
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Friday, April 30, 2010, 5:11pm; Reply: 9
I would use BMI as reference data and not a goal.  Just another tool in your tool chest.
Posted by: kauaian, Friday, April 30, 2010, 8:31pm; Reply: 10
Since u said that your stomach is growling, I would eat small meals 4 or 5 x a day.  I wanted to gain some of my lost weight back & in 2 years finally got to a good weight & don't want to buy new clothes or gain anymore, so now I eat protein & vege meals 3 x a day w/ the smallest portion @ night.  I hope this stabilizes my gain because I'm going through menopause.
Posted by: Wholefoodie, Friday, April 30, 2010, 8:47pm; Reply: 11
I did some experimenting to try to gain some weight (5'7 and 112 lbs right now) and increasing my food added between 2-4 pounds (I can get as low as 108 if I eat a little less for a few days). I will not be able to gain any more unless I start eating refined sugar and lots of unrefined carbs.

It is what is is and for what it's worth, I am in menopause and still can't a pound!! I thought for sure that would be the ticket that would "round me out."

We've had many talks on the forums about being "underweight." I think if we feel good and are eating correctly we have to accept it as healthy for us. They called me "bag of bones" as a kid but I have built more muscle in the last few years than I ever did, still skinny, though.

Also, I programmed my SWAMI to have me gain weight and the amount of food it has me eating in a day is just not possible. I try to reach it sometimes, but most days it is just too much food. I am supposed to eat 16 servings of protein a week and I eat about 14. Seven cups of veggies, 4 fruits, 4 grains, 1 serving nuts or seeds each day but very little ghee, butter or cheese, overall.

You say you feel great, don't worry!
Posted by: narnia, Monday, May 10, 2010, 10:39pm; Reply: 12
Quoted from Wholefoodie
I did some experimenting to try to gain some weight (5'7 and 112 lbs right now) and increasing my food added between 2-4 pounds (I can get as low as 108 if I eat a little less for a few days). I will not be able to gain any more unless I start eating refined sugar and lots of unrefined carbs.

It is what is is and for what it's worth, I am in menopause and still can't a pound!! I thought for sure that would be the ticket that would "round me out."

We've had many talks on the forums about being "underweight." I think if we feel good and are eating correctly we have to accept it as healthy for us. They called me "bag of bones" as a kid but I have built more muscle in the last few years than I ever did, still skinny, though.

Also, I programmed my SWAMI to have me gain weight and the amount of food it has me eating in a day is just not possible. I try to reach it sometimes, but most days it is just too much food. I am supposed to eat 16 servings of protein a week and I eat about 14. Seven cups of veggies, 4 fruits, 4 grains, 1 serving nuts or seeds each day but very little ghee, butter or cheese, overall.

You say you feel great, don't worry!


I didn't start to gain weight until the past 2-3 years, and I went menopausal around 12 years ago.  It took a while, but it slowly crept up.  I have been skinny all my life before that.  When the weight came, it mostly came on my belly!  

I've lost about 14 lbs., but still have about 2 more lb.s of fat on my belly that I need to displace.  I'm 1/2 Asian and small boned, too.
Posted by: nodoubt147, Monday, May 10, 2010, 10:52pm; Reply: 13
I hear ya sistas! Here I am 5'3" at 92 lbs. It is what it is I guess. When I work out hard I can gain anywhere from 5-10 lbs in muscle mass fast, but I've since chilled out on that since I had adrenal issues. But yeah my metabolism in my biggest enemy.
Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 1:11am; Reply: 14
hey nodoubt, you brought up a very good point and I just had an epiphany. I noticed my weight does increase if I workout 5 days a week.. or it remains stable around 110-112. However, if I cut back to 3- 4days, I instantly can lose 2 or 3 pounds within a few weeks or so.


I think this makes sense now, I am striving to lose weight, but then I will not workout as much ( which I love). Maybe it is what it is, and I should not try to lose anymore. Needless to say,  I had a huge salad with bison and loved every morsel of it. I usually dont eat as much as I did, but I was starving! I often think of what you said about the fat and how it is good for us o's. I just dont want to get too chubbby.... I am 10 years older than you.

Feels like it has been awhile since I saw your name! hope you are well.
Posted by: Wholefoodie, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 1:45am; Reply: 15
Well, Narnia, maybe there's hope for me, not that I'm looking to add belly fat but a nice overall increase would be OK! Today was a good day. I weighed in at the gym at 117 lbs., minus about 4 lbs. for sneakers and clothes, I'm up to 113! Haven't hit that number in a while.
Posted by: marjorie, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 4:09pm; Reply: 16
Listening to you all, looks like I need to lose about 5 pounds.

Good job, wholefoodie.
Posted by: JJR, Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 9:17pm; Reply: 17
I wouldn't worry about it.  I wonder if you're fully digesting?  Maybe some digestive enzymes might help.  If you feel good though, ppffffffffft.  Forget the "charts".  My doctor keeps telling me to quit worrying about it.  I think if I was still losing I would be worrying.  But I bounce around 126-130 and I'm 5'8".  I wrestled at 140 my senior year in high school.  And I was losing weight to do that.  But I was much more muscular,  due to the fact of being in sports and I ate like a horse.  I had that see food diet.
Posted by: MileHighRob, Wednesday, May 19, 2010, 4:14am; Reply: 18
Quoted from ruthiegirl
BMI is a very crude tool.

I agree 100%.  My BMI is 21.3 and according to the BMI tool I could lose an additional 18 lbs before falling into the "underweight" category.  I know my body and if I lost that much weight I'd be very sickly.    
Posted by: Luana, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 10:05pm; Reply: 19
Hi,

I have been underweight every since I started the BTD.  However, I really lose weight in the summer with all the garden work and heat that takes my appetite away.

I've stopped fretting about it and just do the best I can.  Like you, I am 5 ft and 94 pounds at this time.  In the winter with more cold weather in Canada, I eat more of course and weigh 100-103 pounds.

Luana
Posted by: balletomane, Monday, November 8, 2010, 9:57am; Reply: 20
Half a year after posting my original post here, I have gained weight eating more closely to the portion size that my SWAMI suggested. At first I couldn't eat the suggested portions of meat for both lunch and dinner because prior to that I was on a semi-vegan diet. I guess my body has now found an equilibrium. Now I'm at about 100 lbs and am not feeling starved in between meals--just having an "itchy tooth" and want to eat snacks from time to time but I think this is mostly psychological. Anyway, I make sure I eat a good amount of protein by getting myself a little kitchen scale and weighing my meat for each meal. It would be 2-3 oz for lunch and 3 oz for dinner. I believe the protein intake has given my body what it had craved after having been on that vegan diet and gone anemic. I guess I should be happy about the weight gain... it's just that when I put on my dance leotard, I feel so self-conscious and "fat" ("fat" in the dance world standard)... Is there something wrong with me??? :-/ At the same time, I can't help snacking... I love to eat (bennies of course)!
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, November 8, 2010, 5:09pm; Reply: 21
I think that most people today have a very unrealistic view of "healthy body weight." A little bit of fat is NORMAL. If you've been underweight for a long time, and you're not "normal weight" then of course you're "fatter" than you were before, but that's not a bad thing.

Looking like an anorexic teenager shouldn't be the goal here.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, November 8, 2010, 5:32pm; Reply: 22
looking good! keep up the positive attitude and love yourself more! ;)
Posted by: Niagreen, Monday, November 8, 2010, 10:58pm; Reply: 23
this is really interesting - when I was very underweight with a BMI of 13 (was very ill, couldnt eat and it seemed my muscles began to eat any fat I had) I was desperate to gain weight. I searched for ways I could do it. I had to have food guidance at my hospital and it took about 2 years to get 'normal'... a while after this I do remember wishing I was a bit skinnier again, even though my initial weight loss was completely unintentional
Posted by: IssyGirl, Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 1:13am; Reply: 24
Quoted from balletomane
... it's just that when I put on my dance leotard, I feel so self-conscious and "fat" ("fat" in the dance world standard)... Is there something wrong with me??? :-/


There is nothing wrong with you!  You are thinking/feeling the way you have been trained to for, maybe, most of your life?  You are a dancer, and a ballet dancer, at that!  

I grew up dancing.  I went on my first diet when I was 12 years old...I weighed 110 at 5'4".  That was the beginning of a life long battle with poor body image.  I am 38 and haven't danced in 10 years, but I am still having that battle.  I really don't have any good advice for you  :(  except to say, try to give yourself a break.  Know that you feel "fat" due to many, many years of that type of reinforcement.  That way you may be able to take the emotion out of it and simply look at it logically.  You need to find a way to combat the self talk that you've likely had running around your head for a long, long time.

If you figure out something that works...give me a shout!   ;)
Posted by: mikeo, Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 1:41am; Reply: 25
Considering most hunters are catabolic, I always considered myself underweight at 6ft 160lbs which was my weight when I first stared the blood type diet....I could eat and eat and never gain weight without exercising (lucky me?). I was 10lb 8 oz baby at birth so I was programmed for abundance. Interesting, that once I stared the hunter diet I started to gain weight (15 lbs )and I noticed that my years battling inflammation of my gums ceased and hair began to grow back on my completely bald head after 15 years of total absence.The hunter diet down tuned my thyroid (A bit hyper for years) and tamed my inflammatory response and hyperactive digestion. I feel stronger and have more endurance at this weight and I exercise every day now.

If I could recommend a diamond hunter meal that may help you gain a few pounds, then try hot buckwheat grouts with ghee and flaxseed meal with a sprinkle of agave for breakfast three times a weak
Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 2:00am; Reply: 26
Like Ruthie said a little bit of fat weight is OK... after all you are a female and that is normal. You might have aquired a bit of muscle weight and that is OK too. More muscle mass will only make you stronger and a better dancer for those more demanding moves. :)
Posted by: balletomane, Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 9:42am; Reply: 27
Thanks all for your supportive comments. Yes, I should not be so harsh on myself. I guess having been so skinny once, I started to like how I looked, especially when I put on my leotard!

IssyGirl, actually I have not been a dancer all my life... I have only started to learn ballet at the good age of 35  ;) Before the recent weight loss due to going vegan last year and then switching to BTD/SWAMI, I had always been a bit puffy, despite being a Hunter. Now I realize that having lean muscles is a natural for Hunters so I do want to keep it that way. Perhaps my huge fibroids are making me especially self-conscious around the pelvic area. I sometimes worry if the weight gain is due to the growth of the fibroids. I hope not. Will go for an ultrasound next month to find out.

Captain Janeway, I hope you are right about gaining weight in terms of muscle mass, which I welcome. I did start to exercise a bit more in recent months and this can only be good for a Type O, right? The thought of gaining muscle weight makes me comfortable. I do notice that whenever I eat grains and food with corn/tomato ingredients, I gain weight. That must be water weight and I lose it after turning back to compliance.

And Mikeo, thanks for your suggestion of this hearty hunter breakfast. I tried it once and it was very filling. However, I later found out that buckwheat is an avoid for me. Otherwise it surely would put some extra meat on me :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 4:57pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from balletomane
And Mikeo, thanks for your suggestion of this hearty hunter breakfast. I tried it once and it was very filling. However, I later found out that buckwheat is an avoid for me. Otherwise it surely would put some extra meat on me :)

It should be pretty easy to substitute a different grain for the buckwheat...  Just choose a Diamond or Superfood grain and use it...
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, November 11, 2010, 12:32am; Reply: 29
Quoted Text
Perhaps my huge fibroids are making me especially self-conscious around the pelvic area. I sometimes worry if the weight gain is due to the growth of the fibroids.


choose a lower carb content in your overall compliant diet

check out the female balancing protocols
Posted by: balletomane, Thursday, November 11, 2010, 1:42pm; Reply: 30
ABJoe, thanks for your suggestion. Currently I try to cut down on grains so....

Lola, Great reminder! Yes, I try to keep the carb content low... mainly keep down the grains...

I have been doing some parts of the protocols... and taking FemBalance and Aromastat, too. Am considering doing some castor oil packs.
Posted by: IssyGirl, Thursday, November 11, 2010, 6:47pm; Reply: 31
Quoted from balletomane

IssyGirl, actually I have not been a dancer all my life... I have only started to learn ballet at the good age of 35  ;)


Ha!  Well, don't I feel silly!?   :P  At least you aren't dealing with the body image issues that come with being a dancer!  Such a challenge!

And BRAVO for taking that on at such a ripe age!    ;)  :P  Ballet is tough!
Posted by: balletomane, Friday, November 12, 2010, 12:29am; Reply: 32
Oh, IssyGirl, don't feel silly! How would you know anyway? Yes, it certainly is a challenge to the body (and mind) to pick up ballet at such a ripe age  :P It's an age when professional dancers generally retire! So you can imagine the muscular-skeletal issues I have to deal with these days. But it is such an enjoyment that it's worth all the little pains  ;) Keeps my body more nimble than how I would be otherwise.
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, November 12, 2010, 1:02am; Reply: 33
Quoted from balletomane
ABJoe, thanks for your suggestion. Currently I try to cut down on grains so....

Don't worry...  All my suggestions are "use as needed or helpful"...
Posted by: ecstasy, Thursday, November 18, 2010, 9:58pm; Reply: 34
haven't really been following the thread but.. sounds like you aren't eating much at all. And if your stomach is growling and you're doing lots of dancing, why would you not be eating?

Plus it doesn't really make sense that you would be feeling really good if you were still hungry.. I mean, at least for me I don't feel my best if my stomach is growling. Just eat more!
Posted by: ecstasy, Thursday, November 18, 2010, 10:02pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from mikeo
Considering most hunters are catabolic, I always considered myself underweight at 6ft 160lbs which was my weight when I first stared the blood type diet....I could eat and eat and never gain weight without exercising (lucky me?). I was 10lb 8 oz baby at birth so I was programmed for abundance. Interesting, that once I stared the hunter diet I started to gain weight (15 lbs )and I noticed that my years battling inflammation of my gums ceased and hair began to grow back on my completely bald head after 15 years of total absence.The hunter diet down tuned my thyroid (A bit hyper for years) and tamed my inflammatory response and hyperactive digestion. I feel stronger and have more endurance at this weight and I exercise every day now.

If I could recommend a diamond hunter meal that may help you gain a few pounds, then try hot buckwheat grouts with ghee and flaxseed meal with a sprinkle of agave for breakfast three times a weak


woww! what an interesting story.. I have always had trouble gaining weight, my whole family. Even my mom who up until she died, she didn't do much of any exercise and ate whatever, she still didn't gain weight.

ANd I always thought that balding was all hereditary but obviously not! haha
Posted by: O plus, Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 7:16am; Reply: 36
Quoted from balletomane

I am wondering if this should be a concern for me... I remember a nurse at a clinic also told me that I am underweight.
Any suggestions?



I made the mistake of going to my local VA clinic today. I went in happy, humorous and confident. I came out angry and self concious. The nurse practitioner there asked me if I was bullemic, Asked me if I do drugs and wanted me to take and AIDS test. I haven't had a partner in almost 3 years.

I'm 5'10" and 144. I recently got over a long term virus that kept me from losing wieght and actually made me put more on when I tried to lose. After I broke it all went back to normal. And the overly healthy lifestyle I adopted while sick made me go down to a lower weight than I was before it all began. I'm not going back there. I feel fine and in a few days I'll be back to my confident self. I'm not interested in what traditional medicine says. I'm interested in what my body says.

Now I'm up at night peeved at myself for going there in the first place. I went to them for years and tried to tell them I had something wrong with me (that virus). They didn't help me at all. I found a way to break it myself. Now they want to treat me like I'm sick now that I'm BETTER???  I'm starting to really have an aversion to traditional medicine..

Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 7:33am; Reply: 37
live and learn :-/
Posted by: balletomane, Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 10:29am; Reply: 38
Quoted from O plus


I'm starting to really have an aversion to traditional medicine..



Me too. Been there.... felt that. I don't go to traditional medicine clinics anymore unless for diagnosis purposes (to monitor my tumor growth.) Other than that, the BTD is my guiding star (sunny)
Posted by: ecstasy, Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 6:55pm; Reply: 39
agreed.. traditional medicine is terrible. Modern medicine knows how to treat with drugs... and that's about it. How ridiculous.

But drug companies have so much power, who knows when the truth about healing with foods will ever be known
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, November 25, 2010, 3:35am; Reply: 40
we all are prove that the truth about healing with foods is well known......
cause we ve walked the walk......climbed every mountain, forged every stream......
you know the song.... ;)
Posted by: O plus, Thursday, November 25, 2010, 7:50pm; Reply: 41
2 days later and I'm over it. Funny thing,  the  nurse practitioner was young and very atractive. She had the kind of glow that doesn't come from trad. med.  I picured her going home and doing a liver cleanse. I bet  she's secretly  frustrated she can't advise people to do what we do (what, I suspect, she even does).  

When I went in that day I was teesing all the LPN's. They had a closed for inservice (from 12 - 1) sign on the door when I got there. Me and several other vets waited outside till they opened up. I immediatly outed them on having a TG party. I said inservice?, yea inservice to ourselves. They all laughed. I said you all could have invited me. I would have like to have been invited to a party with all these good looking women.

I really noticed the diff in myself after I left the building. The nurse prac. was the only downer. The rest of them were nice and couldn't believe I lost 117 pounds from the last time I was there over a year ago. I tried to warn the LPN who weighed me. I said, you're in for a surprise. She weighed me, looked at my chart and then fiddled with the scale some more. She then began to ask me my social security number, DOB etc all over again. She thought I was someone else.  She wanted me to help her do the same.

I was having fun unitl ....
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, November 25, 2010, 10:51pm; Reply: 42
that is an excellent testimonial!
keep it up!

do you have more extra weight to loose?
Posted by: O plus, Friday, November 26, 2010, 7:27pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from Lola
that is an excellent testimonial!
keep it up!

do you have more extra weight to loose?


http://pic20.picturetrail.com:80/VOL1398/7684621/14526931/393648246.jpg

Posted by: Lola, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 2:38am; Reply: 44
do you have a before picture?

guess you do NOT have any more weight to loose!! :)

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Posted by: O plus, Sunday, November 28, 2010, 4:22pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from Lola
do you have a before picture?

guess you do NOT have any more weight to loose!! :)

what is nbsp;&nbsp?

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So you agree with my doc as well. How could you betray me like this... haha ...j/k.

I won't post a fat pic online EVER :)

I don't know what all that is in my avatar. I just chose O non, hunter.

I'm starting to get concerned myself. Seems like the more I eat the faster I lose. I'm going for blood testing next month. Those pants in that pic are even looser and it's only  a few days later. I'm thinking my body has changed dramatically over the several years I had that virus. The new nurse practitioner  mentioned they were treating me for anemia while I was obese (260+).  I had forgotten about that. I would think that also would point to a parasite. I remember it did for me at that time. I'm thinking she mentioned it because I was telling her how I was trying to tell the prior doc it was a parasite of some sort.

I'm starting to think my body was starving (for nutrition) the whole time I was obese. And now it doesn't know the fight is over and is still reacting somehow. When I go back I know I'll be in the 130's. I'll have lost half of my body weight in less than a year.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, November 29, 2010, 7:02am; Reply: 46
truly remarkable!
important is you feel great, right? :)
Posted by: O plus, Monday, November 29, 2010, 3:59pm; Reply: 47
Yea I feel great. I only regret letting this person rent space in my head even temporarily. When I was sick, my body was really letting me know something was wrong. Now,  I'm not getting even close to that message.  I've never felt or slept better. The only place I'm getting that message is from  people on the outside. I told the NP, they weren't very concerned when I was obese. THAT'S the time they should have been.
Posted by: balletomane, Monday, November 29, 2010, 4:03pm; Reply: 48
artspooner, I get those messages from people on the outside too. Some of my friends/family always signal to me that I'm not eating enough! But I eat all the time, LOL! I'm a Hunter like you. Yea, I may look underweight to other types of people but then I've never felt better in my life. What I have are lean muscles on a small frame, and that's the "optimum me" as I call my physical body. I was very puffed up before thanks to the inflammatory food I used to eat. Not anymore and I don't regret a bit.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, November 29, 2010, 6:53pm; Reply: 49
If you're concerned about parasites, you could request a Comprehensive Stool Panel, which is sent to a lab and analyzed for any number of parasites.
Posted by: O plus, Monday, December 13, 2010, 1:51am; Reply: 50
Quoted from balletomane
artspooner, I get those messages from people on the outside too. Some of my friends/family always signal to me that I'm not eating enough! But I eat all the time, LOL! I'm a Hunter like you. Yea, I may look underweight to other types of people but then I've never felt better in my life. What I have are lean muscles on a small frame, and that's the "optimum me" as I call my physical body. I was very puffed up before thanks to the inflammatory food I used to eat. Not anymore and I don't regret a bit.


Most of the ones who make those types of too thin comments seem fat to me now.  I guess they wouldn't know the size a person is supposed to be since they're too big themselves. I also think we as americans have become too accustomed to big as normal.  Like you, I feel great and eat all the time. Sometimes I wonder where it all goes. But, then again,  I'm usually in constant motion througout the day running my business.  I'm 52. When I tell people that, they don't believe me.

Posted by: mikeo, Monday, December 13, 2010, 2:37am; Reply: 51
Quoted from balletomane
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And Mikeo, thanks for your suggestion of this hearty hunter breakfast. I tried it once and it was very filling. However, I later found out that buckwheat is an avoid for me. Otherwise it surely would put some extra meat on me :)


R u on a swami hunter diet or the book diet?
Posted by: balletomane, Monday, December 13, 2010, 2:43pm; Reply: 52
Mikeo, I'm on SWAMI.
Posted by: JJR, Monday, December 13, 2010, 11:24pm; Reply: 53
It's not strange.  When I eat good and my gut sticks out from eating good, I think, you're getting fat.  But by morning, that's gone.  But I'm really underweight also.  So...  I think it's just those little changes that are noticeable mess with your mind.  And looking back on your weight is probably messing with your mind.  Again, how do you feel is the main test I think.  

I don't feel good, and I look like it.  But that's a different story.  I don't mind being skinny, I just wish I had the energy and strength I used to.  If I did, I probably wouldn't give two thoughts to how skinny I am.
Posted by: Possum, Monday, December 13, 2010, 11:55pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from O plus
I don't know what all that is in my avatar. I just chose O non, hunter.

I'm starting to get concerned myself. Seems like the more I eat the faster I lose. I'm going for blood testing next month. Those pants in that pic are even looser and it's only  a few days later. I'm thinking my body has changed dramatically over the several years I had that virus. The new nurse practitioner  mentioned they were treating me for anemia while I was obese (260+).  I had forgotten about that. I would think that also would point to a parasite. I remember it did for me at that time. I'm thinking she mentioned it because I was telling her how I was trying to tell the prior doc it was a parasite of some sort.

I'm starting to think my body was starving (for nutrition) the whole time I was obese. And now it doesn't know the fight is over and is still reacting somehow. When I go back I know I'll be in the 130's. I'll have lost half of my body weight in less than a year.
Congratulations on the impressive weight loss!! It must feel really great to have halved your weight & overcome your ill health in a year??! However, I am wondering from your photo (since you are also expressing concern) if you might benefit from putting a bit more back on??!! Maybe it is the angle of the photo but your eyes do look a bit sunk in their sockets (oh)(no offence) It could be you need that extra nutrition you are not absorbing :-/
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 2:23am; Reply: 55
Quoted from JJR
It's not strange.  When I eat good and my gut sticks out from eating good, I think, you're getting fat.  But by morning, that's gone.

You need to change that self talk to, "Wow, what a great meal.  I need to do that more often."
Posted by: balletomane, Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 2:49am; Reply: 56
Ha ha, I'm trying to do that self talk now...  ;)
Posted by: JJR, Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 4:42pm; Reply: 57
Quoted from ABJoe

You need to change that self talk to, "Wow, what a great meal.  I need to do that more often."


Yep.  You are correct.  Thank you sir.
Posted by: O plus, Monday, December 20, 2010, 2:58am; Reply: 58
Quoted from Possum
Congratulations on the impressive weight loss!! It must feel really great to have halved your weight & overcome your ill health in a year??! However, I am wondering from your photo (since you are also expressing concern) if you might benefit from putting a bit more back on??!! Maybe it is the angle of the photo but your eyes do look a bit sunk in their sockets (oh)(no offence) It could be you need that extra nutrition you are not absorbing :-/


No offense taken. After being obsese for several years, I'll take (LR) people saying I'm too thin over that. And ANYTHING any LR'er says means a whole lot more to me than those who choose to ignore this lifestyle.

I eat as much as I can. When I get hungry again, I repeat.  If I try to over eat my stomach hurts. I guess I could down some wine and then pig out. But I'm not going to do that. I just don't like comments from people who choose to ignore this simple (LR) solution. They're just ignorant to me.

I'm still losing. Trying to add more calories. Cooking with as much olive and walnut oil as I can etc. I think I'm down to the 130's. I go back to VA tues for blood work. I'll ask them to weigh me then. My chiropactor says I now have arthriits in my left leg and it's giving me a noticeable limp. I reasearched anorexia and advancing arthritis is one of the things that come from that. But I'm not binging and purging. I eat a chocoalte bar every day on top of 2 meals. Just not hungry for more. But I'm probably undernorished as you said. I have LOTS of energy though. And I often see people skinnier than meyself.
Posted by: O plus, Monday, December 20, 2010, 3:04am; Reply: 59
Quoted from balletomane


Me too. Been there.... felt that. I don't go to traditional medicine clinics anymore unless for diagnosis purposes (to monitor my tumor growth.) Other than that, the BTD is my guiding star (sunny)


I hear ya. I used to tell everyone about LR. But have backed off quite a bit. Just seems like a waste of time with a lot of people. Goes in one ear and out the other. I'd never give up on this lifestyle. I never did even when I was in the grip of that parasite or bacteria.  I think those things are precancers. And LR can only do so much.  I turned to Hulda Clark's protocols and other methods.

Posted by: O plus, Monday, December 20, 2010, 3:06am; Reply: 60
Quoted from ecstasy
agreed.. traditional medicine is terrible. Modern medicine knows how to treat with drugs... and that's about it. How ridiculous.

But drug companies have so much power, who knows when the truth about healing with foods will ever be known


If the drug companies have their way, it'll never become mainstream. I watched Dr. D's interview from a past Regis show on  youtube. Regis made it into a joke. I was insulted for Dr. D.

Posted by: Lola, Monday, December 20, 2010, 4:39am; Reply: 61
Regis is a clown...... :-/
Posted by: O plus, Tuesday, December 21, 2010, 10:11pm; Reply: 62
Went back to the VA for blood work today. Weighed myself when they weren't looking. Lost another 7 pounds since Nov. 23rd. From 144 down to 137.  The chart in their office says underweight would be under 130 for 5 foot 10 inches. The nurse practitioner said " I don't go by that chart".  They have it hanging on the wall!!! I used it when I used to refer to myself as obese.??

Doesn't look like the pace of my weight loss has slowed much. At this rate I'll be at 0 in no time.
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 2:44am; Reply: 63
Do you have loose stools?  I'm wondering if the food stays in you long enough to be utilized?
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, December 22, 2010, 2:52am; Reply: 64
are you going to the gym or doing weights?

you should be gaining muscle weight, not loosing
Posted by: O plus, Friday, December 24, 2010, 11:26pm; Reply: 65
Quoted from Lola
are you going to the gym or doing weights?

you should be gaining muscle weight, not loosing


Maybe I'm diabetic?  I do sleep a lot. I urinate a lot. I get irratable more often and sometimes feel as if I can black out when I get up too fast.   I do lift some weights in that I use one of those elastic curl bands daily and often.  But I've stopped for a few days to let my body rest. I'm also cutting back on walking for a period to see what happens and to give my arthritic ankle some rest.

The VA has sent me to a chiropractor for treatment of the ankle problem and the limp I'm developing. It's helping. He's a very good chiropractor and he educates.  I can already see my limp improving. It would kill me (as an O) to have to give up my walks long term.

I was supposed to fast for the blood work. But I had to eat some small pieces of turkey or I would have been too hungry by the time I got to the VA clinic. I hope that doesn't throw the tests off too much. Didn't eat much.

I do use nicorette gum. That is the only difference between me prior to all of this and now.  I found a brand that agrees with me and doesn't bother my sleep at all. Don't really want to quit using it. It relaxes me and is my only vice.

Seven pounds later.
http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1398/7684621/14526931/394223585.jpg
Posted by: O plus, Monday, December 27, 2010, 8:49pm; Reply: 66
Didn't really mean to hijack this thread. But I've figured out the limp part of the puzzle. After going over my xrays with my chiropractor, a light bulb went on in my head.  Although I didn't immedialtly have the solution, I knew my higher mind did. A few days later I realized the resistance band I was using since the bacteria broke was causing a pushing down effect on my spine as I was using it.

I've since stopped using that one and the pain and numbness in my left leg is quickly disappearing. Walks are now fun again and find myself walking longer and faster with hardly any limp.  That's what was concerning me. I lose 124 pounds and THEN I develop a limp and numbness in my lower leg, ankle and foot?  It didn't make any sense to me.  The discs he pointed out that were being pinched pointed right back to that excersize. This guy's a really good chiropractor and not at all the kind I expected the VA to refer me to.

I'm now a lot less concerned about what's going on as being bad. I'm upping my calories and eating every 2 hours, albeit small portions. Grazing as it were. Also turns out the pinched nerve in my spine was causing inconsitant bowel and urine function as well.  That is improving also. Getting used to and starting to enjoy being skinny again. I won't assume anything is wrong until a doctor can point to something that proves there is, since I feel great again.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:04pm; Reply: 67
There are a lot of lean Hunters out there.  :)
Posted by: TJ, Monday, December 27, 2010, 11:00pm; Reply: 68
Hooray for breakthroughs!
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, December 28, 2010, 2:22am; Reply: 69
:)
Posted by: Luana, Thursday, December 30, 2010, 3:29am; Reply: 70
From what I understand, the GTD puts your body at the ideal weight it should be eventually.  I am looking forward to finding out what that really is for me.
Posted by: JJR, Thursday, December 30, 2010, 5:17am; Reply: 71
Maybe some of us are just meant to be skinny as rails.  I think how you feel is the best indicator though.  Not how big you are.
Posted by: O plus, Saturday, January 1, 2011, 10:22pm; Reply: 72
Blood tests  came back all negative. And my anemia is gone. I was 261 and anemic. Now I'm 130 something and no anemia. So much for traditional medicine. I think I'll just use the VA for mostly informational purposes and chiropractic adjustments and little more. They just threw iron pills at me for my anemia back then without caring why I was obsese and anemic.

I've picked up on my eating. But it just amps up my metabolism the more I eat. As I've said before, it's hard to curse the light when you've been in the dark for years. So.... I won't. :0)
Posted by: JJR, Saturday, January 1, 2011, 11:13pm; Reply: 73
Wow, you're literally half the man you used to be.  I'm only 2/3rds the man I used to be.
Posted by: balletomane, Sunday, January 2, 2011, 4:13am; Reply: 74
Artspooner, congrats on the stellar lab results! Keep up the good work in the new year  :)
Posted by: O plus, Sunday, January 9, 2011, 7:19am; Reply: 75
Quoted from JJR
Wow, you're literally half the man you used to be.  I'm only 2/3rds the man I used to be.


Seriously. It's bizarre in a good way!  I saved a size 44 jeans I had. I could easily fit in them twice. Funny as heck. I had on a size 28 levis in TJ maxx the other day. they fit perfectly. Now I'm hunting small clothes like I used to big ones. Can't find 'em to fit me. Those 28's fit perfect. I'm finding levis tend to run smaller than other brands. But I don't like levis for some reason, so end up not getting them.

Seems like I've also reversed the aging process as well. My attitude towards the world has changed. I act like a teenager more than I do a 52 YO. I drive like one lately as well. Good thing my car is only a 138 HP, 4 cyl. I'd have lost my license by now.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, January 9, 2011, 7:21am; Reply: 76
:)
Posted by: balletomane, Sunday, January 9, 2011, 8:59am; Reply: 77
After following more closely my SWAMI suggested portions on animal protein, as well as the recent increase in grain and starch vegetable intake, I am only 1lb shy of the "official definition" of normal weight. I am now 103 lbs, 6.5 lbs heavier than when I started this thread eight months ago! I think the "normal range" was probably defined during winter time, when people normally need to eat more  :P !
Posted by: JJR, Sunday, January 9, 2011, 10:07pm; Reply: 78
Quoted from O plus


Seriously. It's bizarre in a good way!  I saved a size 44 jeans I had. I could easily fit in them twice. Funny as heck. I had on a size 28 levis in TJ maxx the other day. they fit perfectly. Now I'm hunting small clothes like I used to big ones. Can't find 'em to fit me. Those 28's fit perfect. I'm finding levis tend to run smaller than other brands. But I don't like levis for some reason, so end up not getting them.

Seems like I've also reversed the aging process as well. My attitude towards the world has changed. I act like a teenager more than I do a 52 YO. I drive like one lately as well. Good thing my car is only a 138 HP, 4 cyl. I'd have lost my license by now.


Ford Focus?

You can get in trouble in any car.  So be careful!!!!  Especially up here when it's slippery.

I'm the same way with clothes.  I have some 29's that are pretty much "big" on me.  But I like em big, so those fit good.  I used to get the Old Navy jeans, but at the size I'm at, I haven't found any that I'm really excited about.  Although I haven't really looked that hard.  I love cordouroy.

Posted by: Luana, Monday, January 10, 2011, 7:13pm; Reply: 79
balletomane the weight increase gives me hope since I am presently 95/96 pounds and really need to gain 5 pounds.  Just started SWAMI and following the frequency guidelines.
Posted by: balletomane, Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 5:18pm; Reply: 80
Luana, yes, SWAMI really gives a very accurate guidance, and you have the choice to go above and below the portion recommendations according to your needs. I'm sure you'll be able to gain that 5 pounds by eating the right things and right amounts. Also, I find that exercising according to my type increases my muscle mass, which also may be a contributing factor in my weight gain. So don't forget the exercise guidelines for your type ;).
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