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Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 3:50pm
As we get to the bottom of the foods that affect Emily - it's becomeing clearer that Mold and the like are Big players.

Do you have a problem with mould?

How does it cause a problem

Does any food make it worse ot better?


I bought two Nscessity air Plasma UV Air Purifier which seems to help. http://www.nscessity.co.uk/Plasma-UV-Air-Purifier.html

our kitchen seems to be the worst room, gets no sun
Posted by: battle dwarf, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 4:00pm; Reply: 1
alot of people have issues with mold. funny thing is every one blames the damp, sure it GROWS were it is damp but it has to dry out for the spores to be released and thats when they try to eat your lungs. some molds can be deadly to the wrong people. i remember reading about a weman who died after a trip to egypt. they finally traced it down to a mold growing on the walls of one the tombs they visated.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 4:07pm; Reply: 2
Funny old world lol Emily's skin seems to blush and if the skin is broken the results are the worst yet. but calming down super quickly with the air purifier. going to look at humidity next it seems that having the right humidity is good for the skin and bad for things like mould and dust mites. interesting to hear how others are coping. I'll post updates on this thread if I can find it in future lol
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:03pm; Reply: 3
I got sick cleaning up around a leaky washing machine.  Mold allergy seems to be becoming more common or at least we’re hearing about it more now days.  
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:14pm; Reply: 4
Even in the dry air of Colorado we have to be on the lookout for mold.
Posted by: Sharon, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:21pm; Reply: 5
The bedroom I grew up in had mold in the closet. I slept in that room everyday for 18 years of my life. I can't say how it affected me but I do think it affected my brain somehow. I could only smell the mold when I came back from college after 3 months of being away from that bedroom. I was so used to living with the mold that I never smelled it or noticed it until I left for many months. Now when I come back to visit my parents, I have to stay far away from my old room or I feel dizzy.
Posted by: karen, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 5:58pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from PCUK-Positive
As we get to the bottom of the foods that affect Emily - it's becomeing clearer that Mold and the like are Big players.

Do you have a problem with mould?

How does it cause a problem

Does any food make it worse ot better?


I bought two Nscessity air Plasma UV Air Purifier which seems to help. http://www.nscessity.co.uk/Plasma-UV-Air-Purifier.html

our kitchen seems to be the worst room, gets no sun




Mold has always been an issue for me.  It would cause sinus and asthma like symptoms.  If I ate strawberries (which are known to have mold) I would break out in hives.  I've been on the BTD for about ten years now and have seen some improvements in many of my symptoms, including mold.  I still react but not as severely as I did.

We had a duct cleaning company clean our ventilation system when we moved here and the owner knew a lot about mold and he recommended we keep our dehumidifier set at about 50% humidity because mold can't grow below that level.

Concerning the diet, make sure the adrenals are supported with BTD proteins and vitamin C from foods.  Also, I've read from many sources that selenium and iodine are necessary to detoxify molds and are also needed for the thyroid.

Hope things settle down soon for you and your family.  
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 6:11pm; Reply: 7
I bought a LIVING Air ionizer (660.about) and love it as I have no issues in my house and no smells from food.. and i cook small meals in no time so make much less steam.. I air out a lot .. zx a day at least.. and I do not belive in airtight houses.. a little air circulating is good for  me..


Posted by: DenverFoodie, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 6:26pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from karen
We had a duct cleaning company clean our ventilation system when we moved here and the owner knew a lot about mold and he recommended we keep our dehumidifier set at about 50% humidity because mold can't grow below that level.  


In many regions through out Colorado our climate is considered semi-arid and on average, outdoor relative humidity (RH) levels will range between 20-25% RH. During heating season months when your furnace is in constant operation the already dry air is dried out even more each and every time your furnace runs and relative humidity levels indoors can dip down to as low as 15-20% RH ranges easily.

We still get mold!
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 17, 2010, 7:34pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from DenverFoodie


In many regions through out Colorado our climate is considered semi-arid and on average, outdoor relative humidity (RH) levels will range between 20-25% RH. During heating season months when your furnace is in constant operation the already dry air is dried out even more each and every time your furnace runs and relative humidity levels indoors can dip down to as low as 15-20% RH ranges easily.

We still get mold!

Most of the mold I saw in CO was where condensation gathered against a cold interior surface in winter...  This happens due to the temperature difference between in and out.  what little humidity is inside, clings to the interior windows and runs down to the wood surfaces below, causing moist wood for the mold to grow...

I get the same thing here in CA...  The In/out difference is less, but the humidity level is much higher, so same problem...  Reminds me, I need to wash the interior of the windows/frames with chlorine again to reduce the mold population.  I used to be much more sensitive than I am now - the benefit due to BTD/GTD with lower toxin levels and NAET to be less sensitive to specific molds.
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 1:14am; Reply: 10
OK si I am doing a good deed by helping someone for a week.(babysit a handycaped person) . but the house is kept so cool that I feel there is mold all over.. I am also dizzy for 3 days already ( never been that way before) and I am seriously thinking that it has to be to environment.. could I be right??

the temp they keep their hous even in winter is 65.. and they have a cat that does not go out so the windows are kept closed.. I can't wait to go home again.. am I just immagine my reactions?? not that I am not dizzy, I am, but that I am in a toxic house.. as no one else seems to be bothered by it???  

what do I do when I am home again by wednesday.. how to detox?  gosh now I dont wan to breath.. lkuckely I brought my own food.. BTD as on excuse..  
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 1:32am; Reply: 11
It could be mold, especially if there are lots of things stored that aren't aired frequently.  

It could be ammonia from the cat.  

It could be perfumes from the litter in the litter box, or other perfumes from dryer sheets or other products used on the house.

Almost everyone's house smells different, and some smell really toxic when you enter.  Some affect you more as you are there longer.

Other people are just bothered when they aren't in a normal environment for some time.  I know a man that gets nervous and jumpy if he is away from his house for more than a few days.  He want to the Army when a young adult, but wasn't really comfortable there for the duration of the enlistment and couldn't wait to get out.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 12:31pm; Reply: 12
Emily reacted to something this morning, since she only had beef and broccoli for breakfast we think it must may be environment, the lounge and her bedroom are permanently air purified 24 hours a day, so may be hall or kitchen, although she wasn't in the kitchen for long or the hall. although the broccoli was different to last week still organic but not the same source they had run out.

We did however manage to get some organic turkey yesterday, without thinking we gave Emily some because we thought it was beneficial, it was not on her allergies list (error) so that could be it too.

mid morning she had spinach soup and beef and got the same or a slightly worse reaction, not breaking skin but extremely flushed in the cheeks.

lunch we changed to sardines and kale seemed to not affect her so much, slight flushing.

could be the mould from boxes in the hall and dining room. or just out a reaction to our mistake giving her turkey (leg only) they ran out of breast. also got a source now for organic mutton in the future.
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 2:04pm; Reply: 13

IF she was a Gatherer .. shorter legs  then Turkey would be ok and even as O its ok .. but THESE green veggies are not for 4 YEAR OLDS..

she needs peace, peaceful foods,  

no nuts no oranges no junk no greens no beets. she does not have the digestive system to deal with it..

Just now I am in ahouse hwere all sorts of stuff is done wrong .. and I over react to it so I think.. the less the better..  

enough said.. .with kind regards Goldie..



Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 3:46pm; Reply: 14

Jesus Goldie, I'm following a book written by the good doctor D, called allergies, I take your point about the veggie, and I think you may be right. up to a point. "hamburgers" not so good though.

If you fully follow my posts, albeit difficult as they are a bit all over the place.

the boxes, we sold another house so I can’t exactly just put them outside. I will move them when I get a chance. lol

Emily reacted to carrots, she also reacted to peach’s, sweet potatoes’ were stopped last week I think due to being a neural often food as part of the allergy diet, which has actually started to point us in the direction that you are saying, but we had to get there I think rather than just guess.

we can't get organic peas by the way. we are doing the best we can which is just not great today
oh and the sardines were because we ran out of cod. shopping tomorrow.

Emily is inside today because the summer in Ireland just stopped today, normally she would be outside. or doing something. but she has had a busy week and a day of rest was called for.

Keep posting though Goldie, but your nice relaxing posts are slightly more enjoyable. ;)





Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 3:56pm; Reply: 15
Emily pretty well reacted to every fruit that was allowed on her list in the book, so we stopped them all for a this week.

Here follows what is allowed for this week and next week we drop the beneficial and only use the supers

Just so you know what we are up to. sorry about poor layout.

Super beneficial

Vegs

Avocado
H- Broccoli.
Collard greens.
Kale.
Kelp.
L- Onions-O
Okra
Seaweeds.
Spinach.

Benificial

Globe artichokes.
M- Carrots.O.
VH-Chicory
Dandelion greens.
Escarole.
Garlic.
horseradish.


fish
Super beneficial

Cod..
Rainbow trout.

Beneficial

Hake.                    Herring fresh
Halibut.                Sole.LEMON
Mackerel.             Sardine CAN OIL.
Swordfish.           YELLOWTAIL

I have never been a fish eater so have little idea what fish has i high salt content , thanks for pointing that out by the way ;)
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 4:39pm; Reply: 16
Ok daaaling.. i take back of some ut still not all..

I am not saying you are bad in any way.. truley...  just overly about what the intestines of a SMALL child can eat..

I think this list is for adults.. I would not give my 4 year old child any of it.. DR D not withstanding..

so then I suggest that Lola pipe in here she may know where the children's foods lists are ....  and I am going to send you a list later after I look into it a little..

I also think that all those foods would make her loose weight.. she needs some soothing filler stuff.. relaxing stuff not meant to digest in a hurry..

I also think that some foods like carrots might have been mixed with something at the time and not maybe now will be soo hyperactivating.. one food every 2.5 hours..

food for their little bodies is where one mouthful of grapes is enough to keep her going.. grapes is just a metafor... stuff you already knows she can eat..  

as for being indoors .. yes with the air quality in your neck of the woods with ashclouds ..going outside is not a good thing .. boxes .. oh well - I did not read all your posts.. but IF you just MOVED in the they should not be moldy??!!?? so should be no issue..

NOW I go back to some items I said before and meant irt then and still do..

ONE food at a meal and at a inbetween meal.. and ONLY those foods you know she can eat..KIDS food.. fruit she is not reacting to.. meat or fish she is not reacting to, drinks she likes, and NEVER YOU mind  she will get balanced food eventually.. no worry.. she will go to school and graduate college if she so desires..

Honestly you are doing so much right that it's sad that it is too much.. If you could   know what all the child needs.. I am still thinking one more time about inheritances..

what who in her family great and grandparents have had any issues.. so much of what DrD has written is the stuff grandparents bring out in children.. 3rd generations..

so also I will take my post off as you have seen it and understood my intentions no need to keep it there.. with caring and supporting i like what you are trying to do..
:)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 5:02pm; Reply: 17
there is no kids specific list per se, since allergic reactions to food and environment are pretty much individualized

I d also adapt what works from the baby book lists, while applying the allergies book guidelines, using the food log.....trial and error here as you already are doing is better than following any other approach.

Mike s talkshoe on Dr Crinnion s book is also worth looking into, since he has specific eco friendly food lists.

we all have our very personal puzzles to resolve and your approach looks very solid to me.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 5:04pm; Reply: 18
Don't take it off too quickly petal.... I'm taking notes and referring back and forth all the time. and I’d love a list of child friendly foods..

I think the idea of the allergy list book is to do the exclusion once and get most of the fact s made. albeit we keep messing it up. but I appreciate what you’re saying, and everything helps.

Emily is fairly lean, but she is well within the guidelines, so don’t worry on that front. Next week is her last week on the allergy diet. After that we will hopefully have a base line to go on and we can gently add back some foods. Minus the ones that affected her the worst.

We’ll try the carrot again for example. We even just gave her peas, we missed them somehow, because they are classed as a bean, although they are actually a neutral but often. So thanks for that. Making me check you see. lol
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 5:12pm; Reply: 19
see i told you you are a good guy..I will send the list but I already took the old post off - you did not deserve it- the list of foods is where I have real issues. its for adults 40 plus.. hahaha  :)  

and I will send you a list of foods for children that i know is used for sensitivites going way over the top compared to your Emily..

and I am sorry I can not spell check on my travel computer.. and the MOLD in this house is driving me batty..  :-/  
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 5:14pm; Reply: 20
funny you say that Lola, after chatting with Goldie, I thought about the baby book, so I’ll buy that now.

If you're chatting to Dr D, ask him about getting ebooks on his site would you, but also ask him about being able to print them, as currently you can't.

May as well sart a library!
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, April 18, 2010, 5:19pm; Reply: 21
;D
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Monday, April 19, 2010, 4:23pm; Reply: 22
Good article on Mold / Mould lol very detailed very useful for me.

http://www.naturalhealthweb.com/articles/b2.html

"No canned tomatoes, unless homemade .* Avoid citric acid*,
which is a very common food additive; not derived from citrus fruit].

This type of diet also reduces the unpleasant effects of headaches, nausea and fatigue, known as the "herxhiemer reaction", which are caused by the release of toxins when pathogenic microbes "die-off".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herxheimer_reaction
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