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Posted by: nwiser, Friday, April 9, 2010, 12:41am
I live in MD and rarely feel any allergy related symptoms (especially when the pollen
starts to turn the cars yellow and most others are feeling it). The last couple of days I am SICK. Feel worse than ever. I know I have a little thing with mold, but
this is crazy. Tree pollen and mold are high and I feel like I have the flu.

I've been avoiding things like dairy and wheat and have been more compliant
to my SWAMI, but not perfect. Could this be a little detox with allergies, or
can I be missing something from my diet that used to keep them at bay?
Also, do any allergy sufferers have any tips? I'd appreciate any feedback.
Thanks! :'(
Posted by: mikeo, Friday, April 9, 2010, 2:01am; Reply: 1
probiotics
Posted by: 8717 (Guest), Friday, April 9, 2010, 2:06am; Reply: 2
Second the probiotics, and utica dioca, or stinging nettles helped me in the past also.
Both probiotics and nettles guard against any candida also!
Posted by: Lola, Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:12am; Reply: 3
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Posted by: Leanne, Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:44am; Reply: 4
As an O, probiotics haven't done a whole lot for my allergies.  I don't know if it's different for an A or not.
Going on BTD 10 years ago took away my spring allergy and left me with the fall allergy.  Mostly the ragweed.  Kills me!  And it's the quercitin/bromelain/turmeric combination that gets me through the fall.
I've been on GTD for nearly 2 years and it hasn't touched my fall allergies.  Was a bit disappointed.
Probiotics keep me healthy and get rid of anything else for me... but not allergies.  And I've taken it by the boat load and - nothing!  
So anyhow, just another perspective.

Leanne!

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Posted by: Lola, Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:01am; Reply: 5
start fermenting! :)
Posted by: battle dwarf, Friday, April 9, 2010, 7:29am; Reply: 6
you said it feels flu like? body ache, fever, running nose and couph? i had that three weeks ago and i am now fighting a sinus infection/couph that is left over.
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, April 9, 2010, 9:02am; Reply: 7
go for natural antihistaminica... like highest dosages of calcium, vit.C, hesperidin,quercetin,pygnogenol or larch arabinogalactan....entre autre ;) :D....
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Friday, April 9, 2010, 11:06am; Reply: 8
http://www.immunesupport.com/92fal004.htm
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Friday, April 9, 2010, 1:39pm; Reply: 9
I always ate honey my whole life. It's kept me from having terrible allergies. I was tested as severly allergic to ragweed.  I hardly sneeze in the fall.. I've been desensitized to pollen thanks to honey. The only problem I seem to have is itchy eyes in the spring from the trees blooming.  I use to use Patanol, but I can now use
Similason and get through the 2 weeks that it's really bad..I just have to use more of it than Patanol.
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, April 9, 2010, 2:46pm; Reply: 10
Collinsonia root (stone root) has gotten me through the past month of allergy season. Had itchy
burning eyes, stuffy head/ears for many weeks. I stopped eating dairy for 2 weeks and
slowly I'm doing much better.   Will go back to dairy after everything has bloomed and the yellow
dust goes away.

And a more vegetarian diet has been helpful for me as well...I've been eating beans every day,
cultured vegetables, LOTS more vegetables, sprouted foods (alfalfa seeds, sunflower seeds,
broccoli sprouts)..more salads, more raw foods.  Cleansing time for the liver....It's Spring! :)
Posted by: Leanne, Friday, April 9, 2010, 2:59pm; Reply: 11
I did the honey thing too but to no avail.  And it was local and everything.  

Ragweed and mold are my two worst killers.  

Monday I was exposed to mold and it's a whole lot worse than being exposed to ragweed.  I've never been poisoned before but I imagine that it would have felt similar to this.  My mold reaction starts out with the typical sneezing, itchy eyes, but then proceeds to a fever, achy all over my body and much congestion in my nasal passage.  Today, I'm finally doing better.  I don't hurt I'm just blowing everything out.
I'm not sure what to do about the mold allergy.  Fortunately I'm not exposed it often.  I've tried the stuff that works with my normal allergies but nothing seems to do the job.  I stay strict to GTD, take everything I know to take, including probiotics, ARA6, quercitin, bromelain, turmeric, Vit. C, and even tried silver but it's like my body has to process it out.  Milk Thistle seemed like it helped some but I don't really know for sure.
Posted by: Plucky, Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:17pm; Reply: 12
While avoiding dairy and wheat are major helpers for me, certain times of the year even that doesn't do the trick.  Probiotics don't seem to make much difference either, but I've taken them forever so maybe I just don't know what good they're doing.  What I find that really helps is doing a saline nasal rinse several times a day, just using the cheap squirt/drip bottles you can get at the drug store.  And then if I get desperate a child dose of Benedryl takes care of the rest.  It's not perfect, but considering I used to live on Benedryl, sudafed, and steroidal nasal sprays most of the year, it's good enough for me.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:30pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from nwiser
I live in MD and rarely feel any allergy related symptoms (especially when the pollen
starts to turn the cars yellow and most others are feeling it). The last couple of days I am SICK. Feel worse than ever. I know I have a little thing with mold, but
this is crazy. Tree pollen and mold are high and I feel like I have the flu.

I've been avoiding things like dairy and wheat and have been more compliant
to my SWAMI, but not perfect. Could this be a little detox with allergies, or
can I be missing something from my diet that used to keep them at bay?
Also, do any allergy sufferers have any tips? I'd appreciate any feedback.
Thanks! :'(


It sounds to me like you have a virus, not allergies. Drink lots of fluids, take extra vitamin C, and get plenty of rest.

For the allergy sufferers on this thread, I still reccomend vitamin C and lots of fluids, as vitamin C is a natural antihistamine. I take about 6 grams per day during allergy season (and more when ill.) I try to use my neti pot twice a day to wash all that polllen out of my nose (then rinse my eyes with saline to get pollen out of there) but in reality I usually only remember to do it once a day.
Posted by: SoulfulLori, Friday, April 9, 2010, 3:57pm; Reply: 14
I'm right there too...heavy chest, productive cough, teary eyes, sore ears and overall ick.  Though not as bad as previous years and have not had to resort to the inhaler so I say my compliance has made this a bit better.
Posted by: battle dwarf, Friday, April 9, 2010, 7:27pm; Reply: 15
vit c is a nateral antihisamene? i wonder if that exslpains why as a kid i absolutly craved it. my mother would buy a bottle of the nonchewable (so called) adult vit c's and i would get hold of them and eat them like candy! sucking and chewing on as many as 8 at a time! i remember i ate so many one time that a layer of skin peeled off my tounge. LOL
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 12:18am; Reply: 16
that was citric acid!!!
glad you re not a nonnie!! :X
Posted by: kauaian, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 12:48am; Reply: 17
Or ascorbic acid....still corn.
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 2:54am; Reply: 18
I used to have "flu symptoms" every other day due to allergies or sensitivities...

I eliminated the problems using a combination of BTD/GTD and NAET / energy balancing.  

Some people on this forum totally pooh-pooh the energy balance, but it works for me and others I know who use it.  If you want details, PM me and I will forward information to you.
Posted by: ABOALL, Saturday, April 10, 2010, 6:19am; Reply: 19
Enzymes between meals
Raw onion with meals
Green tea extract
Ginger tea before bed

:D
Posted by: Plucky, Sunday, April 11, 2010, 2:27am; Reply: 20
Oh, I loved to chew and suck on those vit C tabs my mom gave us as kids, too.  I loved the taste, but just like candies coated in that sour powder they'd make me create tons of thick spittle and then my throat would feel like it's closing off if I ate more than one or left it in my mouth for too long.

My in-laws have many, many cats and my FIL smokes so whenever we'd go see them my allergies would flare terribly, to the point where I'd end up with a low-grade fever and I'd have to take so much Benedryl I'd be totally out of it.  The next day I'd be totally worthless, exhausted just getting over it.  With BTD I have very little problem going there now, if at all.  And it's nice to be able to visit my parents, surrounded by clover and wheat fields, without being drugged, too.
Posted by: battle dwarf, Sunday, April 11, 2010, 2:39am; Reply: 21
i might be nonnie. there is a good probability. i just have not been tested.
Posted by: nwiser, Sunday, April 11, 2010, 7:35pm; Reply: 22
Thanks everyone for the tips.
I am feeling SOOO much better - like a normal person again.
Other than being around smoke, I can't remember an allergen ever making
me feel that bad.

I've used the neti pot with saline now - this is the 4th day - and it just keeps getting better every day. Also using the honey in my tea, yogurt, etc and eating
raw onions with everything. Getting Vit. C though lots of berries and pineapple
(is that enough?) I've always been on the probiotics so I can't
really say if that's affecting anything. I'm just happy to be
normal again, and without having to take any OTC drugs. Wish the same
was true for my son, but the chewable Claritin worked wonders for him
so I'm happy for now, since we are going to Disney next week and I just
want him to feel ok.
Posted by: battle dwarf, Sunday, April 11, 2010, 8:06pm; Reply: 23
ever have hybiscus flowers? they are high in c and very crunchy. i like to just eat them. i also droped my old mutivit this morning. it has not been setaling well becuse i am on sinus protocal right now and there are just to many pills to have it too. it makes me burp and i hate the taste of that.  :P
Posted by: SoulfulLori, Monday, April 12, 2010, 12:27pm; Reply: 24
Well, I'm full blown sick now.  Could not get out of bed yesterday and cannot breathe.  Dipped into asthma med for the first time in maybe two months.  Allergies and stress turned into catching the bad cough thing my DH kids have.  Hopefully this will blow over quickly.
Posted by: nwiser, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 8:11pm; Reply: 25
Yep - that's what I had too. Lasted only 2 days, but it was bad.
I'm thinking the Neti Pot REALLY helped. Honey and onions too so hard
to tell what worked, maybe just time, but I have to go with the nasal
rinse (neti pot) on this one. Hope you're better soon! My ears are still
crackly, but SO much better than those 2 days. :'(
Posted by: Wholefoodie, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 8:24pm; Reply: 26
nwiser--glad your better!

Lori--hope you heal quickly and rest up! So sorry you are not well. Meditate while you are resting and destress!! Down the river, with the current, let go....relax...........feel better
Posted by: Robyn Mc, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 8:54pm; Reply: 27
Lori, you are NOT alone!  I have been suffering with sinus fog for about a week now and finally had to resort to sudafed red along with the mucinex...I have been doing Neilmeds sinus rinse daily, which helps a lot--but sometimes, I need to kick it in the butt before it becomes a full-blown sinus infection.

I started BTD last fall and it completely cleared  my usual fall/winter allergy aggravations...but I think the tree pollens are getting me.  And yes, I bump up all the related protocols for allergies...sometimes, you gotta do whatcha gotta do...hope you feel better, soon!  
Posted by: nwiser, Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 10:10pm; Reply: 28
The allergies are way over the top in count this year. Something
to do with the harsh winter I think. Whatever works to fend off
infection at this point.
Posted by: SoulfulLori, Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 3:54pm; Reply: 29
nwiser, Lisa and Robyn...thanks for the get well wishes and concern, that helped me feel a little better.

Well, I started with sore ears a week or so ago and Sunday I was stuck in bed with a serious cough, tiny fever of 99 and exhaustion.  Monday I sort of got moving and got dressed and did laundry but by afternoon I was coughing so hard and exhausted I parked it on the couch.  Yesterday I did not dress but I did make dinner.  This morning I am back to the land of the living and I am dressed with makeup on and in my studio looking at my painting that needs work.  I finally slept last night for the first time in a week.

I can say that though this was bad and required massive amounts of tea, saline washes of my nose, vit D, tons of water, mucinex and my inhaler, previous years for me were worse and for weeks I would have no energy and become very down over it.  My weak point is my left lung that is slightly damaged from treatment and the tumor so when these things set it I struggle on the left.   Today mucus is getting to a less scary color.

The great thing is I was about 85% compliant during this when usually my eating would get awful when I was sick.  I don't feel I put on weight or have any food hangovers and that makes me feel more energetic.  I only missed 3 days of exercise and was able to do a light yoga routine this morning that made me feel great.  I coudl tell I was still sick because I was sweating like crazy over a little stretching but it made me feel better.

I will live!  LOL.  Bring on the pollen...or not.  LOL
Posted by: December, Wednesday, April 14, 2010, 6:44pm; Reply: 30
Allergies and Athma

http://www.jstor.org/pss/2830331?cookieSet=1
Posted by: KonaBoy, Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 4:24am; Reply: 31
I'll try the more probiotics and more Omega 3, but the honey, the alfalfa, the omega3 and probiotics I already take, don't seem to take put much of a dent in my suffering.  In fact, just tonight it has gotten WORSE even though logic would dictate that outside, during the day, as opposed to my room with an ionizer at night, would worsen my condition.

Honestly I'm confused.  Aren't allergies, of the seasonal/pollen variety, supposed to be an indicator of an OVERACTIVE immune system?  I'm a non-secretor!  I should have a poor immune system...what is going on?!  :-/
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 4:38am; Reply: 32
follow the allergies book and protocols......check out the food lists and compare to the ones you are now following
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED062H
Posted by: KonaBoy, Thursday, April 22, 2010, 4:01am; Reply: 33
well thanks, but...I don't have that book or know what's even in it and I already follow my diet.

Thankfully the advice on here as been helpful in that the extra nose-douching at night with the neti pot (was only previously doing it in the morning), taking an extra Omega 3 (total of 4000 mg/day now), and 2 Probiotic Acidophilus a day that I discovered leftover in my closet, my allergies have gotten A LOT more manageable.  Not completely gone, but much better.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, April 22, 2010, 5:44am; Reply: 34
at your local library, you might want to glimpse into it.....also follow some protocols.
glad you already know your secretor status, that helps target the choices given.

you have seen the protocol index here online right?

there s an allergies protocol as well.
Posted by: KonaBoy, Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:25pm; Reply: 35
Lola, I don't believe I've seen the protocol index on here before, the site is a little overwhelming to me at times and I've been too busy with work to really delve into it of late.  Could you link to it?
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:29pm; Reply: 36
http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/1.html

use the general search feature, window top right hand corner....it s a lifesaver!! :)

also this one here above, which is more for recent forum threads
Posted by: battle dwarf, Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 5:41pm; Reply: 37
i am on the sinus protacal from nap, it seems to have nocked a nasty sinus infection due to bad seasonal alergys right out of there. mom got it for me when it was on sale becuse she thought i looked miserable.
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