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Posted by: VictoriousLiving, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:16am
I don't understand about coconut oil! It is either an avoid or a neutral for everyone - yet there are books that tout it as a miracle fool and give ample reasons why this is the case. I understand that it is high in saturated fat - but so are many other foods that some types are free to enjoy on the BTD.
What's more it the advocation of coconut oil for specific conditions like Autism, Candida, Crohn's Disease and even weight loss.
I'm sure the Dr. has a good reason why coconut oil is an aviod - but can someone help me out?
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:41am; Reply: 1
to give you an example

Quoted Text
Why isn't coconut oil an Explorer Superfood?  
Dr. D

I don't like the effects of one of the main constituents (lauric acid) on the cytochrome CYP4A subfamily (CYP4A11) when used by GT4; in particular liver peroxisomal oxidation, which is about the last thing GT4 needs in this world.

Dr. Enig is a fine lipid chemist, but has a tendency to think coconut oil is just wonderful in everyone.  

In English:

Some people don't do as well as others running a soap through their bile ducts.


I have followed Dr D s advice in everything food related, and so far so good.....
13 years now! ;)
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 7:04am; Reply: 2
Wow 13 yrs Lola - no wonder you look so amazing :K) Well I reckon you're a living testament to all things Blood type... ;) You've got my vote!!
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 7:17am; Reply: 3
It is a Super Food in my new Teacher Swami! I have not used it yet, never ever used it before.  I will have to research the hows, which to get ...  ;D :) :) :)
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 8:08am; Reply: 4
here I only can agree with the soapy runnings of our bile tract... ;) ;D I guess this was the main problem for me one I tried to be super ok when coming along with MMS; I didn't realized  that it was a gluthadione depleetor :o :-/ :B :B
Fragmental knowledge... :P :X :B(shhh)(shy)(mad)but good to get to know where I've to
go for....
Posted by: 547 (Guest), Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 9:42am; Reply: 5
Quoted from Cristina
It is a Super Food in my new Teacher Swami! I have not used it yet, never ever used it before.  I will have to research the hows, which to get ...  ;D :) :) :)


Hi Cristina!

I use coconutoil every day.. In my spelt/oat porridge. In combination with chiaseed it is weightbalancing in menopause. Dear Victoria taught me that..  ;D
I use the virgin unrefined (only a litte coconutvapour when baking!!) coconutoil and the odourless coconutoil both. But making the coconutoil odourless means 'refining' and refining means less quality. :-/ Try the unrefined type.. It is great for Teachers.

Take care!

Cocky 8)
Posted by: Karen Vago, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 10:48am; Reply: 6
Here is a link that may help those who can eat coconut oil (neutral for O non secretors, super diamond food for Teachers and Nomads, black dot avoid for Hunters and Gatherers) choose the right one:

http://www.tropicaltraditions.com/what_is_virgin_coconut_oil.htm

...preferably made from fermented raw fresh (not dried)  coconuts.
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 3:23pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Cristina
It is a Super Food in my new Teacher Swami! I have not used it yet, never ever used it before.  I will have to research the hows, which to get ...  ;D :) :) :)


You're a Teacher?

I thought so.

Welcome to the A2 Teacher club....:)

Posted by: Karen Vago, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 4:20pm; Reply: 8
Here is some more information on coconut oil

http://www.coconutresearchcenter.com/
Posted by: VictoriousLiving, Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 6:18pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from Lola
to give you an example



I have followed Dr D s advice in everything food related, and so far so good.....
13 years now! ;)


Thanks, Lola for the information. I never would have guessed that coconut oil could be banned for its interference with liver functioning. I'm glad to know!
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, January 21, 2010, 9:28am; Reply: 10
Quoted from VictoriousLiving


Thanks, Lola for the information. I never would have guessed that coconut oil could be banned for its interference with liver functioning. I'm glad to know!
Its amazing the testing that has been done; isn't it??!! ;)

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, January 21, 2010, 2:03pm; Reply: 11
Ah, that explains why coconut oil is a complete avoid for me. I used to love that stuff! I used to eat a whole lot of coconut products when I discovered my dairy allergy, and it's the only food that I REALLY miss since starting BTD/GTD/SWAMI.
Posted by: ronhynesfan, Saturday, February 6, 2010, 5:57pm; Reply: 12
Can someone explain to me what this means when I go to the food values thread at the top of the page and click on coconut oil:-

AVOID: Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins.

I have also been doing some searching on the internet for a "miracle" to help with my dogs and their allergies (scratching continuously and licking their paws).  One thing that a lot of people mentioned was giving their dogs coconut oil - in particular one brand called Nutiva that is Organic extra virgin coconut oil and pressed from fresh coconuts - not capra (spelling?) like Dr. D. mentions in the definition of coconut oil.  I then got looking throughout the internet and how beneficial coconut is and now I question that if the coconut oil is pressed from fresh coconuts - would there be a different outcome as to whether it is good for a certain bloodtype or not?  Everyone's thoughts on this welcome  :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Saturday, February 6, 2010, 10:57pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from ronhynesfan
Can someone explain to me what this means when I go to the food values thread at the top of the page and click on coconut oil:-

AVOID: Flocculates serum or precipitates serum proteins.


Flocculate - VERB:    intr.    To form lumpy or fluffy masses.

Serum - NOUN:   pl. se∑rums or se∑ra  (sÓr) KEY
   1. The clear yellowish fluid obtained upon separating whole blood into its solid and liquid components after it has been allowed to clot. Also called blood serum.

Precipitate - VERB:    trad.   Chemistry: To cause (a solid substance) to be separated from a solution.

I provided dictionary definitions for the major components, but putting it all together provides a very graphic description of the problem:
    Causes the blood proteins to separate from the liquid portion of the blood.  I assume that the solids form lumpy masses within the blood liquids!
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, February 6, 2010, 11:03pm; Reply: 14
ask your vet.....I d avoid letting my dog ingest the oil but perhaps applied topically might be a better idea.

dog s livers are quite delicate as well.
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, February 7, 2010, 5:04am; Reply: 15
Quoted from 547
I use the virgin unrefined coconutoil and the odourless coconutoil both. But making the coconutoil odourless means 'refining' and refining means less quality. :-/ Try the unrefined type.. Cocky 8)
Why would you want odourless coconut oil?? ??) Is there something wrong with the pure smell of coconut? :-/ I love it ::)

Posted by: Possum, Sunday, February 7, 2010, 8:29am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Karen Vago
Here is a link that may help those who can eat coconut oil (neutral for O non secretors, super diamond food for Teachers and Nomads, black dot avoid for Hunters and Gatherers)choose the right one:
And an outright avoid for Explorers... :(

Posted by: ruthiegirl, Sunday, February 7, 2010, 6:32pm; Reply: 17
The point of the odorless oil is to use it in recipes where the coconut flavor isn't desirable, plus the refined oil has a higher smoke point (so it's a better choice for deep frying foods.) Back when I thought coconut oil was healthy for me, I used to keep both kinds in my kitchen for various purposes.
Posted by: ambermac, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 1:27pm; Reply: 18
ahh its an avoid on my swami, i use it on my skin but dont eat it, however, i keep reading people saying they have a spoon a day and it does wonders?! too confusing
Posted by: Golfzilla, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 4:13pm; Reply: 19
My brother the Swami says it's a superfood for me -(woot)
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 5:01pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from ambermac
ahh its an avoid on my swami, i use it on my skin but dont eat it, however, i keep reading people saying they have a spoon a day and it does wonders?! too confusing


Perhaps it does wonders for them specifically.  ;)  It doesn't work to generalize too much when following Dr. D's programs.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, October 24, 2012, 5:21pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from ruthiegirl
The point of the odorless oil is to use it in recipes where the coconut flavor isn't desirable, plus the refined oil has a higher smoke point (so it's a better choice for deep frying foods.) Back when I thought coconut oil was healthy for me, I used to keep both kinds in my kitchen for various purposes.


Well, now that I know I'm a non-secretor, SWAMI decided that coconut oil is actually a superfood for me!

I no longer keep the odorless oil on hand; we bake with grape seed oil (neutral for my kids, black dot for me) if we really need a mild-flavored oil. Most of the time, this is for baked goods that I won't be eating anyway. I like the unrefined oil as a "butter replacement" with meat meals, stir a little bit into hot beverages sometimes, or cook with it for myself.
Posted by: Rev144, Thursday, October 25, 2012, 3:15am; Reply: 22
Quoted from ronhynesfan


I have also been doing some searching on the internet for a "miracle" to help with my dogs and their allergies (scratching continuously and licking their paws).  :)


Try switching to a non grain dog food or feed your dogs a raw food diet.  Most likely, your dog is having reactions to the grains in the dog food.  There are several brands on the market now days, but they cost about 50.00 for a 30 lb bag.  YOu feed your dogs alot less food because its not all fillers!   When I switched to a raw diet my itchy dogs stopped itching, and my dog who threw up every night stopped.

Posted by: Rev144, Thursday, October 25, 2012, 3:21am; Reply: 23
Y'all need to be careful on buying coconut oil or coconut flour from any where in the asia type countries.  

I bought some 2012 coconut flour a while back and it made me have horrid reactions.   I have some 2010 coconut flour that does not bother me.  I tried another brand that had a 2012 date and it made me have reactions too.  
I am assuming that the fukushima radiation is blessing the coconuts!  
On a side note, I am also having problems with new nuts!
Posted by: Victoria, Thursday, October 25, 2012, 4:32am; Reply: 24
Quoted from Rev144


Try switching to a non grain dog food or feed your dogs a raw food diet.  Most likely, your dog is having reactions to the grains in the dog food.  There are several brands on the market now days, but they cost about 50.00 for a 30 lb bag.  YOu feed your dogs alot less food because its not all fillers!   When I switched to a raw diet my itchy dogs stopped itching, and my dog who threw up every night stopped.



I agree!  Dogs (and cats) do not do well on grains.  Clean raw meats and raw meaty bones are the natural foods.  No cooked bones because they can splinter.
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