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Posted by: Curious, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:25am
I have read that China is the main producer of ingredients for vitamins and my naturopath has confirmed this. I am worried about the quality aspects of those ingredients and my immediate reaction is to stop taking any vitamins. What is your view on this?
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, January 14, 2010, 11:34am; Reply: 1
read the labels and ask where they come from ;) ;D....btw...would order by NAP or other
well known providers likewise Solgar=made in Europe, or Natural Factors= made in Canada
from Dr.Michael Murray...for example.... and I am sure you have GMP-producers as well in Australia.... :D
Posted by: Golfzilla, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 12:01pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Curious
I have read that China is the main producer of ingredients for vitamins and my naturopath has confirmed this. I am worried about the quality aspects of those ingredients and my immediate reaction is to stop taking any vitamins. What is your view on this?


I get all my supps from NAP I am able, and the rest from GNC
Cheers! :)
Posted by: Dr. D, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 1:58pm; Reply: 3
It's like anything else in this world. You get what you pay for.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Thursday, January 14, 2010, 3:54pm; Reply: 4
I'm to the point where I don't want to purchase any food items from China..Heaven knows what they put in them to save money. Cardboard box noodles. What was that poison they were putting in food to save on using milk?  I can't remember... was it gummie candy? Some kind of candy I think.
I've never seen such unscrupulous business practices with absolutely no regard for human life as some of these Chinese manufacturers. Evil. >:(
Posted by: SoulfulLori, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 4:13pm; Reply: 5
Before I quit to work for myself I worked for a company that had some of their product manufactured in China and Taiwan.  I would often be sent there to help them match colors and such.  I was saddened by many things.

The Shanghai newspaper read that caligraphy was being phased out of their colleges because of the lack of need for the ancient practice.  Fast food joints were everywhere and very busy.  The offerings in those places were different (corn on pizza) but the cr@p factor was unbelievable.  Their sweets were less sweet but I was told the level of sweet desire was increasing and soda drinking and smoking were everywhere.  Only older people could be seen exercising in the morning along the waters edge and younger people were trying so hard to act like Americans and no longer participated in those activities.  There was nothing Chinese about Hong Kong.  It was all Australians and Germans which is fine except that I was hoping to see more of China as I did along the outskirts of Shanghai.

The quality control part of manufacturing did not exist at all and we had to create one for them. Still they fought that very much.  We did not use solvent based inks in our USA made products but there...especially in Taiwan they used very nasty chemicals and poor ventilation and run-off that left me feeling very ill after a 10 hour shift.  I felt poisoned just working there.

Family was still a very strong influence but because of the growing independence of women, the modern family was quite different and most modern women there had no interest in marriage or family.

Having a car was a luxury and very hard to come by (you needed to have a special permit and a proven place to park it) so bicycles used to be the main way to get around.  Now the place is loaded with moped type motorized bikes and the smog is unbelievable.

Also, Shanghai is sinking a little every year due to the increase in building and industrialism there.

Unfortunately I think what happened was their Asian way of life has been corrupted by the desire for American like industrialism and monetary gain.

It seems every civilization begins to destroy itself when it is tempted by greed and loses its center.  It does not mean they are doomed but I think things will have to get ugly before they get better.

Gee...where did that come from???
Posted by: BuzyBee, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 4:21pm; Reply: 6
I am very reluctant to purchase anything from China. They are not out for the well being of others just making money.
Posted by: Sharon, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 5:54pm; Reply: 7
The pet food recall in 2007 made me rethink what and where I buy things.  The melamine that was put into dog food in China as a cheap ingredient killed two dogs in my neighborhood.  That scare is why I started reading about food and that ultimately brought me to the work of Dr.D'Adamo. I'm very happy that I found his books and I will be forever grateful. I ate the SAD (most of my food and vitamins was coming from China) diet until learning about the BTD. It's like night and day. The NAP products are very pure and have been a great support for me.
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 7:08pm; Reply: 8
It was also melamine they put in milk powder/milk products... Sheesh!!!:o  Aren't some plates made of melamine?? And bench tops too??? Eeek!!::)
Posted by: kauaian, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 8:56pm; Reply: 9
Just read an article in my local paper how they are using cadmium in cheap to mid range jewelry. AP tested & found 89-91 % in friendship bracelets sold in Claire's.  It is more toxic than lead. >:(   To get around the inspectors in US, they mix the lots.
Posted by: newtypeA, Thursday, January 14, 2010, 9:46pm; Reply: 10
I've noticed that the clothes I'm buying from Walmart are getting thinner and thinner...the last pair of jeans I bought was almost as thin as a standard blouse. (eek)
Cute pants, but THIN.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:47am; Reply: 11
Sharon,
bless the food recall which brought you to us!! ;)
Posted by: Curious, Friday, January 15, 2010, 9:52am; Reply: 12
I have avoided buying products from China. For example, I needed a new kettle and it is impossible to find a kettle that is not made in China. So I am using a pot to boil my water. However, I did not think about the possiblity that I would ingest ingredients in my vitamin/mineral tablets that are from China.

I am in the process of writing to companies that make the vitamins that I have been using. One said that "where we source our products is considered to be confidential information". That probably means China.

It is difficult to get the NAP, Solgar or Natural Factors products here. So I stopped taking all supplements until I find some here that are not made in China.
Posted by: speedy, Friday, January 15, 2010, 10:35am; Reply: 13
This is a bit scary and worrying - keep any news flowing - we buy ours here in England mostly from Holland Barrett

Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Friday, January 15, 2010, 1:20pm; Reply: 14
I recently purchased a rabbit ( for cooking) and was dismayed to find a label on the underside that read product of China.
I did a search an sure enough most rabbit for food comes from China. I fed it to the dog, my son refused to eat it, which was fine with me.

Sort of reminds me of the book The Jungle by Upton Sinclair, they put sawdust in the meat sausage and people actually ate it.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Friday, January 15, 2010, 2:02pm; Reply: 15
Remember when no one wanted to buy products made in Japan? lol...lol. Now it's nobody wants to buy products made in China! Curious,  Farberware kettles are not made in China.
Here check this out... http://www.usstuff.com/teakettl.htm

Here's another site I found: http://madebyyankees.com/2008/04/19/made-in-usa-tea-kettle-and-toaster/
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, January 15, 2010, 3:27pm; Reply: 16
In general, I try to avoid buying products made in China- buying from thrift stores or just doing without whenever possible, But sometimes it's unnavoidable- a child outgrows their socks or underwear, an item I can't find in thrift stores, and that we can't simply "do without" until I've saved up the money for the "non-MIC" versions.

Does anybody know where Trader Joe's vitamins are made?
Posted by: Curious, Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:20pm; Reply: 17
Thanks Mayflower, for the info on the kettles. I sent them email to ask whether they can send the kettle to Australia, but have not got a reply yet.

Ruthiegirl, based on my research, if Trader Joe's vitamins are cheap they are probably made in China. Almost everything cheap seems to be made in China.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:38pm; Reply: 18
Trader Joe's has removed some Chinese made products from its stores:

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In October 2007, Trader Joe's began to phase out foods imported from China amid concerns that standards on "organic" products from the country aren't as stringent as they should be. Between February 2008 and April 2008, Trader Joe's phased out single-ingredient products from China due to concerns over tainted goods


http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-tj12feb12,1,1079460.story

None of this to me means that some components of Trader Joe's supplements are not from China.
Posted by: Sharon, Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:46pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from Lola
Sharon,
bless the food recall which brought you to us!! ;)


Awww!  Thanks, Lola.  You made my day!  :) ;)

Posted by: Possum, Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:48pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Andrea AWsec
I recently purchased a rabbit ( for cooking) and was dismayed to find a label on the underside that read product of China.
I did a search an sure enough most rabbit for food comes from China. I fed it to the dog, my son refused to eat it, which was fine with me.

Sort of reminds me of the book The Jungle by Upton Sinclair, they put sawdust in the meat sausage and people actually ate it.
Eeww re the rabbit :o and the sausage...come to think of it how do we really know they don't put sawdust in them already... :-/ ??) ::)

Posted by: Sharon, Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:50pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Curious
I have avoided buying products from China. For example, I needed a new kettle and it is impossible to find a kettle that is not made in China. So I am using a pot to boil my water. However, I did not think about the possiblity that I would ingest ingredients in my vitamin/mineral tablets that are from China.

I am in the process of writing to companies that make the vitamins that I have been using. One said that "where we source our products is considered to be confidential information". That probably means China.

It is difficult to get the NAP, Solgar or Natural Factors products here. So I stopped taking all supplements until I find some here that are not made in China.


You can also buy NAP products online. I buy through a paypal account so I never have to re-enter my credit card #.  It's very easy and you can also just pay over the phone or over the internet with a credit card or e-check.

http://www.4yourtype.com/products.asp?dept=31

Posted by: Sharon, Sunday, January 17, 2010, 11:53pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from Possum
Eeww re the rabbit :o and the sausage...come to think of it how do we really know they don't put sawdust in them already... :-/ ??) ::)



This might just be a rumor but...I heard that Subway puts sawdust into their bread.
Posted by: newtypeA, Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:16am; Reply: 23
Quoted from Sharon


This might just be a rumor but...I heard that Subway puts sawdust into their bread.


Ewwwwwww!!!  :o(eek)(disappointed)(tongue)(mad)
Posted by: Lola, Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:23am; Reply: 24
they must believe it s great fiber and good for your internal ecosystem growth!!! ;)
Posted by: Sharon, Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:26am; Reply: 25
Quoted from Lola
they must believe it s great fiber and good for your internal ecosystem growth!!! ;)


:) and sawdust grows on trees.
Posted by: Dr. D, Monday, January 18, 2010, 12:34am; Reply: 26
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php?blog=24&s=sam+therapy&sentence=AND&submit=Search
Posted by: jeanb, Monday, January 18, 2010, 1:25pm; Reply: 27
Wow, rumors run rampant.  In my former life I used to work with off shore producers a lot.  If you do your process correctly, you should have spec'd out all of the items within the product you are producing, you should receive preproduction samples which you test rigorously, make changes as required, log those changes, then production samples, approve those then go into production.

While your goods are in production, you take samples as required and test them at separate labs. I preferred to either be on site for production to ensure all goods were made in house or have a staff member do all inspections for the whole production time so no funny business can arise.

Walmart sets their price points of what product they want Landed, Duty Paid.  The contractors work within those constraints of $$$$.  So what happens is the quality suffers.  I never buy anything from Walmart as the raw materials that go into their products suffers because of the final price point Walmart wants.

If is expensive getting product made in China if you do it correctly by testing all preproduction samples and of course having feet on the ground and testing all production raw materials and final production goods.  So, when companies are not willing to go through the testing they can save massive amounts of money by not setting appropriate production standards at the start of meetings. Therefore, substitutes can be made when no one is looking.
Posted by: Curious, Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:03pm; Reply: 28
I found another interesting article about products made in China (including vitamins). Here it is:
http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_31/b4044060.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index_businessweek+exclusives
Posted by: Possum, Monday, January 18, 2010, 11:17pm; Reply: 29
Very interesting Curious!!! & Wow jeanb - eeek!! Indeed "Food for thought" (only) ::) :o
Posted by: Possum, Monday, July 1, 2013, 5:30am; Reply: 30
Does anybody buy from Ceres? If you check their website (or talk to them) re made in China, they are very defensive of their Chinese made products... Anybody know how good/trustworthy the info re Ceres food made in china really is? The flax I applied topically & reacted sooo badly to, was sourced from there ::)
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, July 2, 2013, 5:31am; Reply: 31
Well apparently the flax has cross contamination with soy?? I wonder why only soy? If it was a case of being processed on equipment used for other things, surely it would be used for more than soy & flax & this wasn't ground linseed? I think I will have to follow this up further, as I had only just woken up when they rang back this morning...
Posted by: ginnyTN, Saturday, July 20, 2013, 10:37pm; Reply: 32
I resesearched where D-Mannose is manufactured because I needed it to cope with recurring urinary tract infections.  It is made in 6 factories in China and 1 factory in Russia.  When contacting "brand" companies the most frequent answer I got was that they buy from varied factories depending on the market.

I absolutely believe that you cannot trust any one brand to provide you with all supplement ingredients that are pure and healthy.  (Now I suppose people will write and tell me I'm all wrong.  But remember, I said "I BELIEVE", not "I know")

The ideal is to take no supplements but eat only whole foods, organic whenever possible.  Unfortunately some of us are old and just plain can't hold enough real food to get all of the nourishment we need, so we are stuck taking things that may help or may make us sick.  
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