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Posted by: Tea Rose, Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 10:37pm
After trying SWAMI Explorer and going back to SWAMI Hunter, I think Hunter works better for me.   I have been unsure and going back and forth on the SWAMI medical history questions.  It seems that some of the medical history items change me back and forth and it is really close.

Honestly if I am truthful, I like eating like an Explorer in the warmer months and more like a Hunter in the colder months!  I was doing well as an Explorer, but since the cold weather it feels like the yeast is kicking up and I need a more Hunter type diet which is calming it down.

I haven't posted much lately because I feel bad that I have gone back and forth between Hunter then Explorer and now Hunter again with SWAMI  :-/

Happy New Year to everyone!
Tea Rose


Posted by: Debra+, Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 10:55pm; Reply: 1
Happy New Year Tea Rose...hey you can come here anytime.   Don't feel bad about jumping back and forth.  We'd love to hear from you no matter what.  :D

Debra :)
Posted by: Tea Rose, Wednesday, January 6, 2010, 11:06pm; Reply: 2
Thanks debra+  :K)
Posted by: Lloyd, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 12:09am; Reply: 3
How much does the SWAMI change your actual food list?

I'd be looking at the differences there for clues and not worry so much about the label. The differences will give you a clue on what goes with what, for you. The bulk of your list should stay about the same.

When you see how you are using the foods that change rating a light bulb may go off in your head.
Posted by: Tea Rose, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 1:01am; Reply: 4
Lloyd -

You absolutely right.  Most of the changes are of the same foods changing between diamond, super or neutral.  The avoids are pretty much avoids on both.

I don't know if you saw my other thread on sea salt, but this is a one of the items I know I have to watch.  On Explorer it is a super and on the Hunter it is only neutral.

I will look more closely though at the differences, maybe even make a list so I see it right in front of me, of which foods it involves and watch those ones :)

Tea Rose
Posted by: Chandon, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 2:09am; Reply: 5
I have jumped between Teacher and Explorer. It has become really clear that my liver is creating a lot of issues for me. The fact that Explorers need to support their bone marrow is also very correct for me, in terms of the health issues I've had in the past. I've even learned that I need to make sure the herbs I take don't overwhelm my liver. I think that if your liver is your main issue, that will make itself known over time. It can be difficult to get to the bottom of it, though!
Posted by: Tea Rose, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 2:22am; Reply: 6
Chandon - I know that my liver has a hard time keeping up and I have just recently stopped all my supplements (except Capyrlic Acid and the oils I take) to give my system a rest, so its funny you should say that.

Tea Rose
Posted by: Golfzilla, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 3:25pm; Reply: 7
If supplements are high quality (NAP) and are food derivitives why would one need a break from them ??)
Posted by: Tea Rose, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 3:47pm; Reply: 8
Golfzilla,

I only take high quality supplements but your liver still has to process everything that you take and so my thought process was to give my liver a rest and give the SWAMI Hunter food plan a chance to do it's magic.  Also I wonder if all the capsules and gel caps the supps come in at some point get to be too much.   It is just a short reprieve from them anyway - I haven't given up on supplementation.

I am resuming some of my supplements today but slowly, along with the oils that I didn't stop taking.

As I am allergic to mold/yeast - I stopped taking the NAP Type O Polyflora when I realized that it has brewer's yeast in it.  I know that this is healthy for many people but not for me.  I have been having skin yeast problems lately.  I would never have thought that it had yeast in it when I purchased it.  I recently saw Dr. D's explanation for having it in there and understand that it can fight candida, but its not for me.

Tea Rose


Posted by: Golfzilla, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 3:57pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from Tea Rose
Golfzilla,

I only take high quality supplements but your liver still has to process everything that you take and so my thought process was to give my liver a rest and give the SWAMI Hunter food plan a chance to do it's magic.  Also I wonder if all the capsules and gel caps the supps come in at some point get to be too much.   It is just a short reprieve from them anyway - I haven't given up on supplementation.

I am resuming some of my supplements today but slowly, along with the oils that I didn't stop taking.

As I am allergic to mold/yeast - I stopped taking the NAP Type O Polyflora when I realized that it has brewer's yeast in it.  I know that this is healthy for many people but not for me.  I have been having skin yeast problems lately.  I would never have thought that it had yeast in it when I purchased it.  I recently saw Dr. D's explanation for having it in there and understand that it can fight candida, but its not for me.

Tea Rose




Tea~ Please understand I'm not in any way questioning what you choose to do. I am just very curious to this whole yeast dilema. Thanks for the info :)
Posted by: Tea Rose, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 4:02pm; Reply: 10
No problem Golfzilla - we are all here to question and learn from each other  :)

Tea Rose
Posted by: kittykar1, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 10:11pm; Reply: 11
Don't feel bad. I do as well on the Hunter SWAMI, as I do the Gatherer SWAMI. Gatherer gives me more veggies, fruit and cheese options. But moved sweet potatoes to a neutral not a diamond. Still eat them like a diamond though. Best meal is still a big slab of beef, baked sweet potato and steamed broccoli or other green veggie. Also need way more fat than Gatherer allows ( have just added it back) I shed a lot of hair and break nails if I don't. I really need a lb of beef daily to be at my best. ;D
Posted by: Tea Rose, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 10:25pm; Reply: 12
kittykar1

I feel really good eating a lot of beef too, I am glad that you said that.  I don't do it though because my portions only allow 3 serving a week.  Maybe I could increase it a bit.

And I hear you on the fat also, I think that my fat is my body's favorite food category, then meat.

Tea Rose
Posted by: kittykar1, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 11:16pm; Reply: 13
I only get 5 portions a week, but since I hate fish, I have to replace it with something. I never really feel full or satisfied with poultry, even turkey which is a diamond. Can we have pork? I have  pork bacon and  pork ham listed as avoids. What about pork chops and ribs? If I eat only the amount of meat listed I don't lose weight or belly. ;D
Posted by: jayneeo, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 11:28pm; Reply: 14
no one can have pork....unfortunately.
I am not too keen on fish either....but am trying to have it every now and then. I eat lots of turkey. I have no problem with that, I like it a lot.
Posted by: Tea Rose, Thursday, January 7, 2010, 11:47pm; Reply: 15
Wow kittykar you get 5 portions of red meat, that is great!

There are only a few meats that I eat so I tend to eat them alot:

Beef -Diamond        love it
Lamb-Diamond       can't bring myself to taste it
Bison-Diamond        I have it occasionally
Venison-Diamond   can't bring myself to taste it
Chicken-Super        like the dark meat, can take or leave the white meat
Turkey-Super           not a big fan but eat it occasionally if I don't have to cook it

I have a good number of fish that are Diamonds so I have been eating more fish.

I love pork!  This was hard to give up - I would say that this was my favorite meat.  Now I don't eat it.
Posted by: Chandon, Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:04am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Tea Rose
Golfzilla,
As I am allergic to mold/yeast - I stopped taking the NAP Type O Polyflora when I realized that it has brewer's yeast in it.  I know that this is healthy for many people but not for me.  I have been having skin yeast problems lately.  I would never have thought that it had yeast in it when I purchased it.  I recently saw Dr. D's explanation for having it in there and understand that it can fight candida, but its not for me.

Tea Rose




Maybe you are an Explorer then. You sound like me! I was having those types of issues, constant issues with mold, an intolerance of yeast, and skin yeast problems. Are you index finger prints different?
Posted by: Tea Rose, Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:27am; Reply: 17
Chandon,

Yes my index finger are different, one is a radial loop the other is an ulnar loop.  I thought that this alone made me an Explorer.

I have the environmental allergies and sensitivities of an Explorer.

The SWAMI Hunter diet feels more comfortable for me though and that is what the book said I was.

Funny, that even with the radial loop, I haven't been able to get SWAMI to say I am an Explorer again.   It keeps coming up Hunter now......  I will keep fiddling with it and see if I can get it to come up Explorer again.

Tea Rose

Posted by: kittykar1, Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:31am; Reply: 18
I haven't eaten pork since I started BTD/ GTD either, was just wondering. Tried lamb, it is a diamond, didn't like it, too gamey and strong. We eat vension quite a bit, but hubby and son both hunt. Don't like it in burger, but great as steak and loin and in jerky. I cook in the crock pot with veggies and gravy. It becomes very tender. Don't like it tough or gamey. I  would  not eat it when we first moved from CA, as a teen thought it was barbaric and gross. I've totaled 2 vehicles hitting deer, and daughter has hit 2, :o so don't feel the same now. We would be overrun with them like rats in a trash can here, if not for hunting season. :-/
Posted by: Tea Rose, Friday, January 8, 2010, 12:42am; Reply: 19
Funny I just can not get SWAMI to say I am an Explorer now.  I think I am going crazy.....(dizzy)
Posted by: Lola, Friday, January 8, 2010, 1:21am; Reply: 20
both index the same loops might work

:)
but that wouldn t be you now, would it?
Posted by: Tea Rose, Friday, January 8, 2010, 1:36am; Reply: 21
:)
Posted by: Chandon, Friday, January 8, 2010, 3:33am; Reply: 22
I have one radial loop and one whorl for the index finger and that made me an Explorer in SWAMI; no other changes that fit me changed my SWAMI from Teacher until I did that. Before, they were both down as whorls, but then I realized I had really misread one print.

I guess you could be a Hunter with strong leanings to Explorer. I definitely have strong leanings to Teacher (thus a receptive type), especially in the personality department. My tai chi teacher just had me help with teaching class, although as an INFP it would feel better to not have to teach at all!
Posted by: Tea Rose, Friday, January 8, 2010, 2:20pm; Reply: 23
Chandon,

That is what I am thinking - I am a SWAMI Hunter but have very strong Explorer health issues.  My plan after doing both versions I think is to adjust the portions (adjusting meat and fats) a bit during different seasons but I am committed now to stick with the Hunter version.

I am feeling really good being on the Hunter version after 4 or 5 days, my skin/yeast problems are clearing up nicely to where I don't focus on it all day and I see my Naturopath next week so he may be able to help me clear that up further.

Also I feel really good that in the last 4 or 5 days I have treated sea salt as the neutral that it is for me.   Salt (even sea salt) used in the way I was using it could be the majority of my problems even though I no longer have edema, it may still have been effecting me on other levels.

Tea Rose (sunny)
Posted by: Chandon, Saturday, January 9, 2010, 4:00am; Reply: 24
Great news. Your SWAMI is supposed to bring a lot of things into balance, so that is great it is doing that. Maybe the Hunter diet is really right. I haven't read about the Hunter issues recently, so I don't know what the main issue would be.
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