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Posted by: Sed, Thursday, November 19, 2009, 12:26am
Probably has been done before, although I haven't seen it on the boards.

I am curious if genotype influences the liking of sweet food. I could mabey do one for savoury as well.

I also wonder how much these preferences are related to our gut flora? Well, don't think that's an easy answer. But, who knows mabey soon...
Posted by: geminisue, Thursday, November 19, 2009, 12:42am; Reply: 1
I always had a sweet tooth, and always craved salt.  The sweet tooth is almost gone, just once in a while, it hits me, (but maybe that is because, I had the last of my teeth pulled out, a while, ago)hahaha

Seriously, the protein intake helps to get rid of the sweet tooth, and I don't worry about the salt too much, as I switched to sea salt, and don't need it as often as I did regular salt.

I always connect these two together, for some reason, not sure why.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, November 19, 2009, 12:44am; Reply: 2
Wonder if taster status has more influence?
Posted by: Sed, Thursday, November 19, 2009, 12:47am; Reply: 3
Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Wonder if taster status has more influence?


Doesn't that influence bitter taste?
Posted by: RedLilac, Friday, November 20, 2009, 5:20pm; Reply: 4
You need “no” votes on the survey.  Neither Explorer I nor my Nomad son is a big sweet eater.
Posted by: Heidi, Friday, November 20, 2009, 10:30pm; Reply: 5
I don't have a sweet tooth. Maybe because sweets have always left me feeling icky  :X

My Teacher husband has a whole mouth full of sweet teeth though, lol.  ;)
Posted by: jeanb, Saturday, November 21, 2009, 1:12pm; Reply: 6
My hunter Nonnie Son and I have the nastiest sweet tooth known to man.  We would prefer a dinner of dark chocolate with a side of prime rib and a coffee chaser, no vegetables thank you.

My other Hunter Son (sec) is more of a dairy fan.  He would drink chocolate milk even though it would induce vomiting within about 30 minutes (I still can't believe that took me so many years to figure out).

My A warrior sec husband used to be a dairy boy, but I think he really loves the taste of red wine (still can't figure that one out)
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Saturday, November 21, 2009, 1:51pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from Sed


Doesn't that influence bitter taste?

Not necessarily, I have two super taster friends that love, sweet. Sweet to the point that it would make someone else sick, they are both overweight. Both have messed up bowel flora, not sure how high the breathe hydrogen was for them.

Gut bacteria plays a role here too, I posted a study that stated that gut bacteria crave sweet, probably triggers hormonal responses that get us craving sweet. Leptin might be involved?

I think it is more complicated then GT.
Posted by: Sed, Saturday, November 21, 2009, 5:49pm; Reply: 8
I also used to have a sweet tooth, which has virtually disappeared with the GTD. When I had a minor 'attack' last week, I was able to satisfy it with some pureed prunes mixed into a sweetener free basmati rice pud. My Type A, Teacher (yet to be verified) husband on the other hand, who follows a non BTD/GTD, but reasonably healthy diet (quite in line with his GT incidentally) has a very sweet tooth and is always longing for Nigella Lawson chocolate brownies..

I haven't included the 'No' response as there were only 10 poll question options.

"We would prefer a dinner of dark chocolate with a side of prime rib and a coffee chaser, no vegetables thank you." Once in a while, why not, breaks the 'monotony' of beef stew with sweet potatoes..?

Although the poll indicates an 'O' connection, esp Hunter sweet tooth, from the written responses it appears that things aren't that straightforward, possibly, yes, because other factors like individual gut flora, type of diet or upbringing play a part. However, if each genotype has a more specific gut bacteria composition and GTD brings the natural flora in line for genotype, with larger data and a GTD compliant population of at least 3 months some trends might be observed...  
Posted by: yaman, Sunday, November 22, 2009, 11:35am; Reply: 9
This hunter never had a sweet tooth, yet I like to have a bite of those unibars now and then :)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Monday, November 23, 2009, 9:50am; Reply: 10
Quoted from RedLilac
You need “no” votes on the survey.  Neither Explorer I nor my Nomad son is a big sweet eater.


I don´t have a sweet tooth ( only dark choc ::))
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Monday, November 23, 2009, 3:25pm; Reply: 11
You've GOT to be kidding?!!  I'm the only Warrior that has a sweet tooth?  :o :B crikey.
Posted by: paul clucas, Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:01am; Reply: 12
Sweet tooth.

Sed if you want to measure Genotypes that can be sweet tooths, just count the number of allowed "sugars"  

Gatherers have the least access to sweets - not a big surprise!  All the rest base Genotypes are about equal.
Posted by: Chandon, Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 12:12am; Reply: 13
I definitely have a sweet tooth, but I can get into a rhythm with the GTD where I can resist sweets a lot of the time. I tend to think some fruit-flavored foods are usually too sweet, like raspberry or lemon frozen yogurt tend to taste much sweeter than they should to me. I do like sweet veggies, but I find that I generally like to have a dinner that is pretty savory. I need salt, big time, but I don't know that I LOVE the taste. I guess I crave it from a physiological rather than taste-based stand point.

If I let myself eat chocolate, it can turn into an addiction in no time. It is not on my SWAMI.
Posted by: Paulppaul, Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 4:03pm; Reply: 14
I'll always like sweets but I don't crave them anymore.  I take probiotics which helps with the sugar overload and keeps me from craving them.   :)
Posted by: Sed, Thursday, November 26, 2009, 9:55am; Reply: 15
The poll could perhaps be improved by creating the following options:

Had a sweet tooth before starting GTD

Had no sweet tooth before starting GTD

Hunter, 3 month compliancy, have sweet tooth/ have no sweet tooth

Hunter, 6 month compliancy, have sweet tooth/ have no sweet tooth

Hunter 1+ year compliancy, have sweet tooth/ have no sweet tooth

Same for all other genotypes

And there is the problem of how to define sweet tooth. Like sweet flavours or I eat them for enjoyment or I can't exist without having any? Also, sweet flavours of what, fruit, veg, sweeteners, sugars other carb?

But probably if one has a sweet tooth in the classic sense of the word, one knows it. No precise definition is needed.
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, November 26, 2009, 5:22pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from jeanb

My A warrior sec husband used to be a dairy boy, but I think he really loves the taste of red wine (still can't figure that one out)


Red Wine is a SF for Warrior...  That may explain it! ;D

I like some dark chocolate, but definitely do not have a sweet tooth.  I cut the sugar in most recipes in about half to where my Teacher family members think it needs more and I think it could still have less!
Posted by: Lin, Monday, April 19, 2010, 7:15pm; Reply: 17
There is also at what time of day? I find I don't need something sweet until mid afternoon to evening. So I'm wondering if it is when some nutrition is dipping, chromium or something?  And yes agree with comments about state of gut makes a difference, and if we are talking sugar that is definitely addictive for me.
Posted by: 4thRabbit, Monday, April 19, 2010, 7:41pm; Reply: 18
I said I have a sweet tooth, but I don't like things super sweet, but I LOVE dark chocolate, maybe it's really just a chocolate tooth. There is a direct association between protein deficiency and sugar craving, I was once told by a bio-chemist sort of  a person. Sugars give the cell the fuel that protein does, but not for as long. It takes about three days of enough protein to shut off sugar cravings. SInce Hunters have such a high protein need it would make sense that more of them have sweets on the mind.....
Posted by: battle dwarf, Monday, April 19, 2010, 9:05pm; Reply: 19
i like the occasonal sweet but if you give me a choise of sour over sweet i will probly go for the sour. i mostly like chocolat, i never cared for hard candy and it always made me mad that all the pastery places had to cover every thing in goo  (a.k.a. white suger frosting)  :P if they just left it as pastery with fruit or cream cheese i would probly have been a fatter person. LOL
Posted by: Lisalea, Monday, April 19, 2010, 9:10pm; Reply: 20
Oh yes, much to my dismay- I love sweets. :-/
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:08pm; Reply: 21
I'm a Gatherer and I've never really had a sweet tooth. I get cravings for starchy foods, but not sweet ones.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, April 19, 2010, 10:10pm; Reply: 22
I voted "yes", but here's the real story. Prior to going on the Teacher's diet...prior to doing a SWAMI I was a lifetime sugarholic. I kept myself from indulging in sugar all day but it took effort.  I wanted desserts more than food. As a child I craved sweets...Sweets never affected my weight, but it certainly affected my mood.

OK, fast forward to my Teacher's SWAMI since September.  I now eat no refined sugar whatsoever anymore
and that's basically because I do my own baking and it's gluten free. So, I never have the opportunity
to eat other people's baked goods and that's where most of the sugar would be.  Chocolate is a black
dot on my SWAMI.  I use small amounts of honey and a little molasses but I'm not craving those
types of sugars..  The thought of eating sweet food isn't predominantly on my mind anymore.  Baked apples are sweet.  Prunes and dates are sweet...That's about as sweet as my foods are.

And I find if I mix a bunch of different flavors into a meal....sweet, salty, bitter, pungent, sour, I'm satisfied.

My SWAMI diet cured my sugar cravings. :)
Posted by: Lola, Monday, April 19, 2010, 11:48pm; Reply: 23
unfortunately starchy foods turn to sugar..,specially in a gatherer body. :-/
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 5:30pm; Reply: 24
Oh, yeah, I know starchy foods turn to sugar within half an hour of consumption. I do my best to limit them, and only have them with plenty of protein and a bit of fat. But it's still a starch craving, not a sugar craving. Eating sugar messes up my blood sugar within a few minutes of eating it, while starches leave me hungry an hour later but don't give me any obvious sugar rushes. Eating too much sugar makes me feel physically ill, while starch just makes me feel good, especially if I keep eating more every hour. ;) Of course I gain tons of weight that way, and I don't eat that way anymore.
Posted by: mpca66, Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 7:42pm; Reply: 25
Quoted from Lisalea
Oh yes, much to my dismay- I love sweets. :-/


I second that  :P

Monica
San Diego
Posted by: SandrAruba, Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 9:49pm; Reply: 26
When I am pretty compliant my need for sweet(s) disappears but when I get stressed or tired (or bored) the craving comes back. It totally depends on the sweets, I don't care for chocolate but I adore things like nougat and anything with coconut.

So my best answer is yes. Because it's probably something I will have to deal with the rest of my life. But I can control it somewhat by being compliant.
Posted by: Leanne, Tuesday, April 20, 2010, 10:07pm; Reply: 27
Nope, no sweet tooth here.  They make me sick to my stomach.  In our house growing up all the sweets went bad.  The cakes, ice cream was freezer burnt... Mom was always throwing stuff out.  
Do like dark chocolate; can't stand the other stuff.  Way too grainy.

Leanne
Posted by: Lisalea, Wednesday, April 21, 2010, 12:41am; Reply: 28
Quoted from mpca66


I second that  :P

Monica
San Diego


We should have met up for dessert when I was in San Diego last fall:)
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Sunday, May 2, 2010, 9:54am; Reply: 29
I have realized for me personally that if I eat something that is on my avoid that I than crave sugar after. I have found that we don't "crave" things that are good for us. I eat the good things because I know they are good for me, but I don't believe there is such a thing as a "healthy craving". I think cravings have to do with addictions and addictions are connected with lectin damage. I've been thinking a lot about this recently. Especially since I'm pregnant and so many pregnant women claim to have such crazy cravings for things. What have I craved? Anything on my avoid list... hence the realization.

Did I have a sweet tooth before I followed my BTD or GTD explicitly? HECK YA!!! Just thinking about certain sweet foods will cause me a chemical reaction of endorphins to flow. Do I eat them? HECK NO!!! Because I know if I do it will make my body ache, I'll feel sick, my bowels will almost completely stop or I'll get IBS from it.

What a difference being on a solid BTD or GTD makes to a persons belief systems about foods!
Posted by: SandrAruba, Sunday, May 2, 2010, 5:45pm; Reply: 30
Quoted from christaalyssaA+
but I don't believe there is such a thing as a "healthy craving".


I have to disagree. I do crave healthy things. It doesn't happen often, but I often buy my veggies based on what I want that evening. Brussels sprouts is one of those things I can really look forward too.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, May 2, 2010, 5:49pm; Reply: 31
I get healthy cravings every time it s time to have lunch, breakfast, or dinner, so yes I do get those daily......
:)
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, May 2, 2010, 7:50pm; Reply: 32
I get cravings (demands) for foods (or supplements) the body needs...  I sometimes find I need to go through the cupboards to determine what I'm needing, but I can usually find it and most of the time, it is a beneficial that I need.  I no longer get avoid cravings!

Quoted from SandrAruba
Brussels sprouts is one of those things I can really look forward too.
Me too!  Brussels sprouts and pinto beans, with some garlic and curry powder makes a great dinner!
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 3, 2010, 2:50am; Reply: 33
I need to explain what I mean by "healthy cravings". A craving to me is something that you feel so compelled to eat that you overeat on it. There is nothing on my superfood list or highly beneficial that I ever have a desire to overeat on.

Having things that you enjoy eating as opposed to things that you get an addictive response to when you eat it... that is the difference for me. I hope that explains what I meant. I personally never feel like if I don't get a grapefruit I'll throw a temper tantrum or get irritable like someone does that is actually addicted to something like sugar.

For some of us here I think we are so used to being healthy and eating the right things that you don't remember what it feels like to actually feel addicted to certain foods or maybe you never have.

I was watching a young girl standing infront of a pop machine last week. She was very overweight and under 8 years old. The desperation and look on her face of "craving" and "addiction" of wanting that pop was not the look of someone hungry or starving for nourishment. It was that of addiction. I would actually call it "Lectin addiction".  
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, May 3, 2010, 3:05am; Reply: 34
My demands are different than you describe, because I remember those as well; which is why I noted it as demands...  

That being said, I can't ignore the "symptoms" as they provide much of the same drive to fulfill.  Yes, the body only demands what it needs - but the force with which it demands it is very consuming until dealt with fully!
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 3, 2010, 8:47am; Reply: 35
ABJoe - That makes sense to call them "demands" I can relate to that. I do feel strongly the urge to eat or drink something that is healthy. Like every once in a while I think, "Wow, wouldn't some fresh sushi be awesome right now???" My favorites have always been salmon and red snapper nigiri. Go figure! Perfect foods for my type. When it comes to avoid foods though is what I would call addictive cravings. For some reason I personally only see "cravings" in terms of it being addictive in nature. Probably due to my years of counseling clients and seeing how they craved certain foods that would only cause them pain. Like my O blood type client that was addicted to dairy and gluten. Every week he would come in and be aching from head to toe from the toxic damage he was putting himself through.
I have a sister who is drug and alcohol addicted. She gets cravings for drugs and alcohol, and than has cravings for foods that are only listed as avoids for all blood and geneotypes. I don't know her blood type and knowing it wouldn't help until she actually has a desire to change. I pray that day will come sooner than later though.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Monday, May 3, 2010, 2:37pm; Reply: 36
Wow, that's really interesting that O's have a higher ratio of sweet toothness to A's  :o
I would have thought we A's were the carboholics... lol  ;D
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Monday, May 3, 2010, 2:49pm; Reply: 37
We are also better genetically fit to deal with carbos we secretors at least ! I could not live without my right A Teacher carbos...
Maria Giovanna
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Monday, May 3, 2010, 3:46pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from Maria Giovanna
We are also better genetically fit to deal with carbos we secretors at least ! I could not live without my right A Teacher carbos...
Maria Giovanna


I suppose since A's get more carbs to start with, we can better control where they come from. A carb is a carb.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 3, 2010, 4:03pm; Reply: 39
you grow out of those avoid cravings eventually......
balance is key.....read my signature, under Dr D s quote. :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Monday, May 3, 2010, 4:26pm; Reply: 40
I would surmise that most of the O cravings are really a demand for energy, but it gets fulfilled with sugar rather than a beneficial fat.  Once it has been fulfilled in that manner once, the brain automatically associates that food with the need, so future demands trigger that self-destructive "need".  If the person fulfills the need with a beneficial several times, the brain realizes that this is a better plan and demands the beneficial in a more correct amount...

Again, it goes back to knowing the body's needs and fulfilling them with beneficials...
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 3, 2010, 4:57pm; Reply: 41
ABJoe, yep I totally agree with you on that! Smarts!
Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Monday, May 3, 2010, 5:23pm; Reply: 42
Not a big sweet freak :D But if I must have then I prefer a fruit pie or cobbler to something ooey-gooey
chocolate disaster.
Posted by: AKArtlover, Monday, May 3, 2010, 8:54pm; Reply: 43
My taste changed when I gave up processed sugar. Used to eat Hershey's Kisses everytime I visited my husband's family business. Total Pavlov response. Go to the business, down a handful of chocolate.

Gave up the processed sugar. Went in. Thought, one will be alright. I spit that thing out. Nasty sweet. Broke the link. :P

Still like pure ground chocolate nibs, honey, ghee every now and then. Put a recipe on here for dab of chocolate or something like that.

I'm also a supertaster. My bent toward eating the more bitter veggies has gotten better too. Theorize that I was too bent to the sweet side before. ;D


Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 3, 2010, 9:03pm; Reply: 44
Quoted Text
Put a recipe on here for dab of chocolate or something like that.

was this last conference what finally got you to join the boards?
:)
Posted by: AKArtlover, Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 7:39am; Reply: 45
Quoted from Lola

was this last conference what finally got you to join the boards?
:)


Kind of. I don't usually get a lot of downtime. I guess I was inspired yesterday because I took the day off to poke around. I thought adding a few things here and there would be nice if they were helpful to people.

Pay it forward from all I got from the conference, you know.

;)
Posted by: mpca66, Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 10:49pm; Reply: 46
Quoted from Lisalea


We should have met up for dessert when I was in San Diego last fall:)


Well .. not to throw you off your diet, but .... next time you're in town .. check out Extraordinary Desserts:

http://www.extraordinarydesserts.com/index.htm

Simply the best :-)

Monica
San Diego

Posted by: cajun, Friday, June 4, 2010, 8:55pm; Reply: 47
Christaalyssa,

I am an A+ with the same cravings as your O client. I am currently avoiding all dairy, wheat and yeast to see if it helps with my chronic sinus problems. Wheat free, yeast free "cardboard" is not the same as delicious artisan bread!!!!! There really is no substitute for yummy French cheese, either. Its been 3 weeks and I am SOOOOO craving a piece of good toast! Naturally, I love chocolate, fresh fruit crisps, pies, and anything coffee or caramel.
Posted by: DenverFoodie, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 12:55am; Reply: 48
Quoted from 815
Wow, that's really interesting that O's have a higher ratio of sweet toothness to A's  :o
I would have thought we A's were the carboholics... lol  ;D


You still might be.  This poll does not take into account the number of "no's" out there.  ;)
Posted by: paul clucas, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 2:28pm; Reply: 49
A sweet tooth may just be another manifestation of impulse control issues that are common to O's

(Hunters & Explorers that is.  Gatherers have a different relationship to sweet foods.)
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 6:59pm; Reply: 50
Os with low self esteem....ooops sorry low dopamine is what I meant to say

so get up and shake that body!!! ;)
Posted by: marjorie, Monday, June 7, 2010, 1:35am; Reply: 51
I never had a stron sweet tooth, however, if I eat too much fruit this starts to happen.

I need to get the swami done so I can see how much fruit I should be eating.
Right now, I can have one pear a day and be fine.. sometimes, I go without any fruit all day. However, I think fruit is healthy and it will assist in flushing out the toxins.

When everyone speaks of sugar and sweets, are you referring to fruits as well? I never crave any other sugar (processed items)
Posted by: Goldie, Saturday, June 19, 2010, 2:51am; Reply: 52
Quoted Text
impulse control issues that are common to O's


ok so when I come over and take a bite out of your pet cow you will call it impulse while I just call it steak??  ;D

Gatherers /// sweet food actually has nothing to do with food.. It is a means to energy, to happiness, relaxation, to contemplation of your naval.. you name it,, good before and after.. and for sure in anticipation of... nothing whatsoever to do with hunger, appetite nor satiety.. its the best friend, always near, self starting and satisfying no matter the mood , good when angry, good when going to sleep, in coffee on ice-cream.. get the picture??  
Posted by: deblynn3, Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:51pm; Reply: 53
Quoted from paul clucas
A sweet tooth may just be another manifestation of impulse control issues that are common to O's

(Hunters & Explorers that is.  Gatherers have a different relationship to sweet foods.)


I agree. I voted yes, but as a gatherer I just like food. On BTD I've learned to love my foods (and that means less sugar,gluten types food)  I think also the statement that sugar is  "quick energy"  learned by O type, often as children. We learn I can fix my energy needs, quickly with sugar. I have learned now to use protein.  
Posted by: paul clucas, Saturday, September 4, 2010, 12:44pm; Reply: 54
Lots of positive co-processes that the animal protein triggers on the ways down.  Supporting IAP levels, promoting lean muscle mass, fat soluable nutrients, ammino acids, are a few that come to mind.

Protein is the opposite of sugar as food cravings go for O's.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, September 4, 2010, 3:07pm; Reply: 55
and promotes calcium absorption
Posted by: fennel, Friday, October 29, 2010, 5:37am; Reply: 56
Actually, this is one of the things that really turned me towards the genotype diet.  I do not have a sweet tooth.  It'd be a potato or a milky sauce or something like that (or a great beer) that would pull me off track.  Getting the lists was amazing.  I didn't do sweets, because they were "bad", and I didn't really miss them, but I now find myself throughly enjoying things tinged with a bit of agave or honey that are totally diamond-driven.  My cravings were always for other toxics.
Posted by: Mother, Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 6:44pm; Reply: 57
Yes, I have a sweet tooth but I've learned (over and over again), that fulfilling that sweet tooth only makes it worse, to the point of not stopping. If I don't eat sugar, I don't crave it. Same with wheat, can't stop, even when full and feeling sick. I still look for more food. Its disgusting.  It usually doesn't taste as good as I think it's going to and it then becomes a physical craving. My moms an A and chocolate is her middle name. Man, can she put that stuff away! watching her really helps me stay away from it.
Posted by: focused, Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 10:10pm; Reply: 58
Before starting on my SWAMI meal plan i could eat tons of sugar but once you take it out you don't crave it near as much. I hardly think about sweets now (refused a milk shake today).  :)
Posted by: Easy E, Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 12:57pm; Reply: 59
I have a weakness for cookies, especially chocolate chip cookies.  I have to be careful to not go through them too quickly.  If i have a coffee or tea i made, i will eat three or four after a meal, then eat a few as a snack, then have a few more after my next meal.  I don't seem to gain any weight from them, but i am still pretty young.
Posted by: Jesi, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 5:34am; Reply: 60
I love cookies too...but that's really it...not much of a sweet tooth because I cut sugar out of my diet about 8 years ago. I'd rather have some potato chips or a warm ham and cheese croissant...
Posted by: purlgirl, Sunday, March 27, 2011, 10:44pm; Reply: 61
I have a hard time controlling sweet so best to avoid.  (wheat treats)

I have found small Chocolat Coconut Maccaroons at whole foods.   No wheat at all - these I can eat.  
I have one with a cup of tea or after a meal and I'm fine.

When I'm compliant  -  I don't crave sweets
Posted by: Kim, Sunday, May 15, 2011, 3:29pm; Reply: 62
I want salt more than sweets.  
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Sunday, May 15, 2011, 7:37pm; Reply: 63
I've had better control the last 10 years then I did in my  20s but sure I like a small bit if chocolate & go through cycles with dried fruit etc.  I drank a lot of wine last few years always paired with chocolate, not great for my moods or blood sugar.  I try to keep stevia around & have that on healthy foods like kefir or oatmeal.  I've generally outgrown cookies & ice cream-- the occasional pastry with wine is about it for me these days.  And ok I sprinkle zane currants on my food also.  Fine I have a sweet tooth!
Posted by: upnorth6, Thursday, June 2, 2011, 10:13pm; Reply: 64
I am fine if I don't have anything sweet

Once I get a taste of something it's hard to stop eating it.....I do my best to pass on dessert when I'm at a party.....holiday's are the hard part....but it's more about enjoying the "traditions" with my sisters that I love so much...the sista time  ;)

What I've done to combat this is I have something sweet like honey before I head out to the gym....that way I don't feel deprived and it gives me a boost of energy for my work out  :)
Posted by: LuceBCN, Friday, July 29, 2011, 9:32pm; Reply: 65
I have an incredible sweet tooth! From healthier sweet stuff like fruit and yoghurt, to unhealthy stuff like lollies, chocolate, ice cream, biscuits, cakes. Every day, every meal, and snacks too - I'm always eating something sweet. I prefer sweet vegetables like capsicum, peas, carrot and lettuce to other more savory veggies. I never have cravings for crisps or other salty/savory snacks. I've probably eaten 100g of chocolate every day for most of my adult life. Now that I've found out that I'm a teacher, it looks like I better switch to carob! Preferably sweetened with vegetable glycerine or honey...  fingers crossed I can find something like that!
Posted by: marjorie, Saturday, July 30, 2011, 3:19am; Reply: 66
never had a sweet tooth.. only thing I sometimes struggle with is sometimes eating my fruit too soon after dinner. Today, i had half a pear that was it.

could care less if I eat sugar or sweets ever again.
Posted by: Kim, Thursday, August 11, 2011, 11:30am; Reply: 67
I keep carob walnut brownies and almond flour cookies in my freezer.  The portions are small and if I just want a bite of something sweet after a meal, these work out well.  Bonus is they are diamonds on my Swami!

You can put all kinds of good compliant ingredients in the almond flour cookies, what ever you like and can have.  I never thought I would like carob, but I just love it.  DH is sold on it too.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Friday, August 12, 2011, 1:35pm; Reply: 68
I have a monster sweet tooth.  It seems to run in both sides of my family, which was probably encouraged by a southern culture where super sweet desserts are endemic.  I read in the past that people in warm climates do eat more sweet foods.  I don't know whether or not that's true.  I went to a family reunion on the Gulf coast and the dessert table was like a separate meal in itself, lasting into the afternoon (Gosh, re-reading that, it sounds weird, like a Roman orgy.  It wasn't quite like that, just that the desserts were not cleared away and people kept picking into the afternoon).  I hope there are lots of bakeries and chocolate shops in Heaven - and no repercussions!   :D  And I hope I get there!

I have cut waaaay back on my sugar consumption (and eliminated wheat and corn), but I still crave sweets sometimes.  Eating lots of veggies helps, but I don't think I will ever fall out of love with desserts and really good chocolate.  Just have to keep a muzzle on that monsta and only let him out for holidays.  We're going to NOLA in November and that is going to be challenging.
Posted by: funnygirl5, Saturday, August 13, 2011, 3:44am; Reply: 69
Quoted from 815
You've GOT to be kidding?!!  I'm the only Warrior that has a sweet tooth?  :o :B crikey.


Mayflowers, don't despair..... I have a really bad sweet tooth  ;D  I can eat many chocolate bars a day and not turn a hair  :o . I'm still getting organised to follow the GTD (using up everything in my pantry) and it may be that my sweet tooth will subside in time (gosh I hope it does.... as at the moment all I have to do is think of chocolate and I can't get it out of my head......) but I doubt that it will disappear altogether. I've had a sweet tooth ever since I was a kid.

Sam (sunny)(sunny)(sunny)
Posted by: O in Virginia, Saturday, August 13, 2011, 2:11pm; Reply: 70
Quoted from funnygirl5


Mayflowers, don't despair..... I have a really bad sweet tooth  ;D  I can eat many chocolate bars a day and not turn a hair  :o . I'm still getting organised to follow the GTD (using up everything in my pantry) and it may be that my sweet tooth will subside in time (gosh I hope it does.... as at the moment all I have to do is think of chocolate and I can't get it out of my head......) but I doubt that it will disappear altogether. I've had a sweet tooth ever since I was a kid.

Sam (sunny)(sunny)(sunny)


I think you will see that if you follow your GTD diet as compliantly as possible the sweet cravings will begin to abate in time.  They may not totally go away.  I think sugar addiction is hard to break, as difficult as nicotine addiction.  At least in my case sugar is addictive.  I eat far less chocolate than I used to.  I used to be able to eat chocolate for breakfast.  My DH was so amazed by that when we first knew each other.  He tried hiding the chocolate from me so I couldn't do that.  >:(  He soon learned not to get between me and my chocolate!  I also could (and often did) eat leftover birthday cake or pie with a cup of coffee and call that breakfast.  ::)  So I have come a loooong way.  I have not completely eliminated sugar from my diet, but I have vastly reduced it just by following my swami and not eating prepared packaged foods that are also loaded with sugars.  And eliminating wheat (no packaged breads, no cookies, no bakery pies or cakes) has eliminated sugar from those sources.  

There was a day last week I thought about having some chocolate (out of habit), and I realized that I didn't really have a taste for it after all.  That was a first!  :o  But, in the back of my mind, like a true addict, I always have a little inkling, a little itch, for the sweet.  I'm getting better at recognizing it and managing it, but it's still there.  I feel like I could easily fall off the wagon and have a good 48 hour sweets binge, lock myself in a hotel room or something - ice cream, pastries, capuccino with sugar, cookies, chocolate covered marzipan, butterfingers, snickers bars, all of it.  It would probably make me sick, but I feel like I would have a great time doing it.  I guess I just won't go there.   :-/
Posted by: cajun, Saturday, August 13, 2011, 9:24pm; Reply: 71
O in Virginia,

OMG! NOLA???? One of my all time favorite places for food in general! I admit to indulging in beignets and chickory coffee at Cafe du Monde and at least one awesome meal at Emeril's restaurant, NOLA. I do try to stay compliant other than that...red beans and rice, meatless jambalya, fresh fish and veggies.Yummo!

Chocolate....Lindts or Cadburys or European milk....I want it a few times a year.
Fresh fruit tarts, crunches, pies....... I want once a month.
Homemade, gooey, chewy chocolate chip or peanut butter cookies ....I want after dinner! :o :-/
Posted by: O in Virginia, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 4:15pm; Reply: 72
Quoted from cajun
O in Virginia,

OMG! NOLA???? One of my all time favorite places for food in general! I admit to indulging in beignets and chickory coffee at Cafe du Monde and at least one awesome meal at Emeril's restaurant, NOLA. I do try to stay compliant other than that...red beans and rice, meatless jambalya, fresh fish and veggies.Yummo!

Chocolate....Lindts or Cadburys or European milk....I want it a few times a year.
Fresh fruit tarts, crunches, pies....... I want once a month.
Homemade, gooey, chewy chocolate chip or peanut butter cookies ....I want after dinner! :o :-/


I'm really excited, too.  I haven't visited New Orleans since 2003.  I have to stay away from the beignets, unfortunately.  And the red beans are avoids, too.  But seafood and rice is...mighty nice!  :)
Posted by: Beachgirl, Sunday, September 4, 2011, 3:48am; Reply: 73
I've always had a sweet tooth.  By eating compliantly, it's still there, but much less noticeable than when I was eating a wheat driven diet.  Most of the sweets I craved were in carb form...cookies, cakes, etc.  I still enjoy sweets, but after a week of feeding my body better, I can be satisfied with a small piece of high quality dark chocolate and I don't feel deprived.  Add bennie, chocolate's a superfood!  (woot)
Posted by: 14922 (Guest), Wednesday, September 7, 2011, 9:18pm; Reply: 74
My sweet tooth permanently went away after I did 34 days in a row on the Master Cleanse. Ever since I finished it, I don't want to eat or drink anything sweet. That was 5 months ago.

CURED!!  (clap)
Posted by: marjorie, Saturday, November 26, 2011, 4:05am; Reply: 75
Quoted from 14922
My sweet tooth permanently went away after I did 34 days in a row on the Master Cleanse. Ever since I finished it, I don't want to eat or drink anything sweet. That was 5 months ago.

CURED!!  (clap)


Congrats. What cleanse did you do?
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, November 27, 2011, 12:46am; Reply: 76
google Master Cleanse....
this is NOT BT/GT specific......it is a one size fit all registered TM
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Saturday, December 3, 2011, 7:05pm; Reply: 77
Mine has decreased since eliminating grains.  I'm actually loving parsnips and sweet potatoes.
Posted by: Melisa, Saturday, December 3, 2011, 7:05pm; Reply: 78
Quoted from Lola
google Master Cleanse....
this is NOT BT/GT specific......it is a one size fit all registered TM


I did the Master Cleanse and lasted 3 days. I hated it! It just made me want to chew food so I could "sweep" clean my digestive system. There is something inherently wrong with not cleaning the digestive system - it's just like cleaning the house - some friction is needed.

Melissa
Posted by: Dianne, Sunday, December 4, 2011, 4:38pm; Reply: 79
Since I eradicated candida 2.5 years ago, no more sweet tooth. I follow SWAMI and rarely eat the honey that is a diamond. Have it to soothe my throat if it's sore. I get stevia but don't want that either. Parsnips, sweet potatoes and carrots are plenty sweet for this tooth now! ;D
Posted by: 14442 (Guest), Wednesday, February 1, 2012, 5:57pm; Reply: 80
Intermittent fasting has more or less "cured" my sweet tooth.  
Posted by: Spring, Wednesday, February 1, 2012, 8:56pm; Reply: 81
Desserts don't bother me too much EXCEPT my daughter-in-law's pineapple upside down mini-muffins, pecan pie and egg custard. I just don't need to be around those three very often! About twice a year! Of course, I am talking about these three in their traditional versions. SWAMI has thrown pecans back into a black dot for me along with some other items that has me gritting my teeth! Hey, over there, we can't keep throwing out food because of these changes! Most of this stuff is expensive! I spent hours shelling all those nice, fresh pecans, do you hear? I think I am going to stay away from re-running that thing for a while! ;D I don't like the idea of it sticking its nose over my shoulder when I'm eating something that was just fine yesterday but isn't today! ----Just joking, of course!  (hugegrin)
Posted by: passionprincess, Wednesday, February 1, 2012, 10:56pm; Reply: 82
Same here! I stopped eating sweets after I got braces in my 20s which probably helped keep the candida under control at the time. I would get sweet cravings ever so often but ever since the candida cleanse, I do not have any desire for sweets. I had 2-3 pieces of chocolate a day during Christmas season only because the candy box was in front of me but I do not get strong urges. I had 1-2 jelly beans (yes, a whole package of Jelly Belly would last me about a month or two) a day for about three days while watching t.v. My whole sweet splurge was more out of habit - family sitting around the t.v. with various snacks.

I crave salt more than anything else. I think this is because of my low blood pressure. I came in at 82/60 about a week and half ago.

I crave rice cakes or grain based snacks more than sugary stuff. My recent carb/starch craving was due to eating proteins and veggies without grains for almost a month. My body just wanted a more balanced diet, that is all.

Quoted from Dianne
Since I eradicated candida 2.5 years ago, no more sweet tooth. I follow SWAMI and rarely eat the honey that is a diamond. Have it to soothe my throat if it's sore. I get stevia but don't want that either. Parsnips, sweet potatoes and carrots are plenty sweet for this tooth now! ;D


Posted by: Lin, Thursday, February 2, 2012, 10:02pm; Reply: 83
The Doctor I go to, told me when we want something sweet after a meal it can be caused by not having enough digestive enzymes and the body is looking for an expansive food which sugar is.....   I also like something sweet.  Mostly I can satisfy with figs, dates, and peanut butter with jam.
Lin
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 6:47am; Reply: 84
or bacterial overgrowth
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Sunday, April 7, 2013, 11:54pm; Reply: 85
I prefer real food to sweets, but they are addictive.
I rarely had sweets as a young child, so didn't develop the taste for them, but I suspect that if I were raised on them like most kids, I would have a sweet tooth.

If I do crave sweets, it usually is in the morning to eat fruit. I think it is a blood sugar thing as well as the fact that fruit is better on an empty stomach.
(I didn't vote in this poll.)
Posted by: san j, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 7:17am; Reply: 86
If you don't know what percent of the respondents are of each genotype (assuming no one's genotype is changing over time, too) what can this poll really tell you?
Posted by: cat2, Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 11:13am; Reply: 87
I like something sweet every now and again, I'd miss sweet things if I never had any - but I don't crave sweet things unless I start eating them a lot.  If I don't eat them much I don't miss them, I think it's a bit like salt, the more you eat the more you want.  I do love agave syrup though and since my SWAMI  I've switched from sugar, I don't have lots but prefer it now to sugar.
Posted by: ginnyTN, Sunday, January 5, 2014, 5:45am; Reply: 88
Quoted from Spring
Desserts don't bother me too much EXCEPT my daughter-in-law's pineapple upside down mini-muffins, pecan pie and egg custard. I just don't need to be around those three very often! About twice a year! Of course, I am talking about these three in their traditional versions. SWAMI has thrown pecans back into a black dot for me along with some other items that has me gritting my teeth! Hey, over there, we can't keep throwing out food because of these changes! Most of this stuff is expensive! I spent hours shelling all those nice, fresh pecans, do you hear? I think I am going to stay away from re-running that thing for a while! ;D I don't like the idea of it sticking its nose over my shoulder when I'm eating something that was just fine yesterday but isn't today! ----Just joking, of course!  (hugegrin)


WOW - that is interesting.  My Swami puts me at 44% Explorer and pecans are a diamond for me!  But dates are now a black dot, so I can't make my "pecan pie snack bars" now without the dates.........boo hoo   :'(

But I do know what you mean about having to get rid of things that were beneficial before:  I have a huge stock of soy milk and several pound packages of tofu and a few quarts of goat yogurt that were our breakfast staple foods until LAST WEEK when I ran the Swami!  Now those are all black dots or total avoids.  Guess that's what I get for stocking up on food    ::)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, January 5, 2014, 11:00am; Reply: 89
haaa I justamente finished.. with biiig troubles , yesterday this blo..ahem beautiful book written by Bouchard & Ordovas, all about  molec. biology & translational sience...(hehe)(hehe)(hehe) even here a lot of *might be's* can be...etc is taken for guaranted... :o :-/ :P ;D and sorry I can't agree when it's mentioned *recent advances in nutrigenetics and nutrigenomics* coz Dr. D' seems really to have knittet it well all together in establishing a true groupe of genotypes (btw..also mentioned in this book but descriptions aren't given nor fixed!) So far I was able also to honour the mentioned *thrifty genes* in our gatherer-warrior context ;) ;D...and last but not least.. I observed that exactly those commit the biggest errors by comparing and establishing *insights* gotten during SNP's issues... and malheureusement those don't work cross border but stay in their own little castle... which prooves the correctness of the Enneagram....that almost those are or 1-5-or 7 and do show up with *self reported- established phrases...* that none of another relevant groupe was able to verify until now !!!
Next: It seems to be known and even agreed...accepted...that  genetic variability of taste perceptions and preferences are acknowledged and even that the Prop taster
and non-tasters are detected (so far... bravo Peter you've been first for another time ;) :D... :K) )....and are almost fixed by so named TAS2R38 and PAV-TAS2R38)

When I observed all those written words, I can only agree with an acient teacher of mine Prof. Dr. Bodo Köhler who simplifyed all this in his book: Grundlage des Lebens.....! And for another time, sorry we are on the wrong way... medicine is artwork and no science...why... coz even with comparable amounts of numbers of tests etc... we are all far away from true outcome and verité!!!I observed and think today... there are a lot of different new approaches for new medicine... but indedd and truth.... a lot is nothing but new packings of an old thema!!!

We spend billions of money, vaste time and money instead of the acceptance that even here natural healing occurs as one of the correcter ways for healing procedures...... and what else ??)! All those belief systems can't accept as usual that a lot is much simpler then thought...as Dr.D. always mentioned and pointed out in his teachings........

The problem here as usual are and is stil : interrests... nothing about this theme then money ...subventions and interrests... the outcome- and look of a money making mashine working by itself in reproducing even more money...as thought in our todays so called *school medicine* showed up as the super erroning way... coz they do produce even more worse pathways in creating *chronic sick people*....!

So far I observed and still think: we need to take us more serious and taking full power of attorney... instead of blaming all docs to act in case of sickness.... when having given away our potency of our own responsability, no wonder that those will profit and send you into *nowhere-s land*... in such a heavy detoured society!!! :X
Posted by: Averno, Sunday, January 5, 2014, 1:43pm; Reply: 90
Amen!  (book2) (sunny) (smarty) (clap)

Medicine is science until applied to humans... it then becomes art-- much of it illusion. So much so that distraction and diversion must be employed to gain our cooperation, as in correcting one ailment while oops!... creating three more. Greasy food giving you indigestion? Take this pill. Low testosterone? Take this one.

Side effects? Pish posh. There are more pills for those, too. Surgery, chemo, radiation... all quite regular!

The primary outcome is income, and there is no denying that this is Big Business. The wellness industry and the sickness industry really need to get more distance between them, and that is up to us.



Hmmmnnn... Just noticed, Amazone I, that these 2 posts don't really belong in this thread. What to do?






Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, January 5, 2014, 4:44pm; Reply: 91
thanx for the *racourcis* dearest Averno ;) ;D... :K) sorry I'm always that blubbering in my tries to make me understood... :o :B :B :X(disappointed)(goofy) but sorry even here you got lost...... this mentioning has ++ to do with the mentioned blas above...look all about TAS and trallallas' & cha'cha'chas'  about *sweet tongues* ;) ;D.... oummmm sigh... yess I know I'm getting onto the nerves... but this doesn't means to help outta situations... :X(evil)(evil)(funny)(shrug)(wiseman)(clown)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, January 5, 2014, 5:42pm; Reply: 92
ps. forgot to mention that often not only cancer cells are living onto those sweet issues... but almost first : all kinds of funghii....almost candida !!! :X(mad)(shrug)(whistle)... so far for me it isn't clearly declared from and in what this very thema can  *really be fixed*.... is it now trully genetically related nor......... prooved.... .b l a..'s  (evil)(eek).......
Posted by: Averno, Sunday, January 5, 2014, 6:38pm; Reply: 93
Quoted from Amazone I.

... sorry I'm always that blubbering in my tries to make me understood...


What you've said is perfectly understandable.

Quoted from Amazone I.

but sorry even here you got lost...... this mentioning has ++ to do with the mentioned blas above...look all about TAS and trallallas' & cha'cha'chas'  about *sweet tongues* ;) ;D....


You're right, I got swept up in the other points.

Quoted from Amazone I.

oummmm sigh... yess I know I'm getting onto the nerves...


It's a learning environment and in everyone's best interest to hear these thoughts. Thanks for sharing them.   8)




Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, January 5, 2014, 6:50pm; Reply: 94





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Posted by: yaeli, Monday, January 6, 2014, 3:37am; Reply: 95
Quoted from ginnyTN
Now those are all black dots or total avoids.
The hell with them. Toxins!

During the 22 and 9 months I didn't have meat & poultry I devoured tons of tofu, until I realized it was making me so weak that I discarded it from my menu. If I remember well, this was before I read ER4YT.

Posted by: huntermama, Thursday, May 29, 2014, 7:25pm; Reply: 96
I'm a hunter and do not have much of a sweet tooth. My warrior husband loves sweets!
Posted by: Easy E, Thursday, July 10, 2014, 1:24pm; Reply: 97
I like salty stuff!  I can devour some fresh hot French fries!  Occassional craving for sweet stuff, but less with no coffee consumption.

My wife is a gatherer, and craves sweets like ice cream and the like fairly often, more so than me.
Posted by: Averno, Thursday, July 10, 2014, 2:42pm; Reply: 98
Same here.

I find it much easier to limit sweets than to limit salt. Often chewing on coarse salt crystals while cooking.

I don't think this is as naughty as it sounds, either. The amount of salt incorporated into a recipe to make it palatable is far greater than when added at the table. Another reason processed foods are so dangerous. The manufacturer can't very well ask the consumer to "sprinkle on a little salt before eating", so they load it up on the front end.

Doctors had it upside-down when they first told us to "put down the saltshaker". Should have said "season lightly, at the table only."
Posted by: san j, Thursday, July 10, 2014, 9:30pm; Reply: 99
Quoted from Averno
Doctors had it upside-down when they first told us to "put down the saltshaker". Should have said "season lightly, at the table only."

??)
In cookery, there is a vast difference between using salt correctly and overdoing it.
Considering all use of salt to be superimposed on a dish that is considered Finished (and no chef worth her salt (ha!) would agree) is anathema to correctly prepared food.

The solution to oversalted fast-food is to avoid it, not to stop using salt in one's own cooking.
IMO.
Posted by: Averno, Thursday, July 10, 2014, 10:48pm; Reply: 100
Quoted from san j

??)
In cookery, there is a vast difference between using salt correctly and overdoing it.
Considering all use of salt to be superimposed on a dish that is considered Finished (and no chef worth her salt (ha!) would agree) is anathema to correctly prepared food.

The solution to oversalted fast-food is to avoid it, not to stop using salt in one's own cooking.
IMO.


I totally agree, but for those who were facing health issues, the doctors advice was pretty Draconian and yes, should have been focused more on processed and fast food. I should have mentioned what you've said here... layer and finish..  a little more finishing can compensate for an overall "backing off" if necessary. Thanks for pointing that out.  ;)

Kinda beside the point, but it also bears mentioning that using a better quality salt makes a difference in health consequences, too.



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