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Posted by: Frances AB, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:18am
I could use some advice here as I'm contemplating using SWAMI but wondering if it will cause me more confusion. I've posted elsewhere about my difficulty in establishing my genotype definitively. I'd been doing BTD for years and switched to genotype when it came out but wandered around the genotypes a bit (husband kept getting different measurement results, we changed our minds about jaw width etc) but settled on Nomad because we got it more often than the others. My question is, is SWAMI even more complex when there's an element of subjectivity/room for inaccuracy involved? I had improvement on AB BTD (fewer digestive symptoms mainly) but I realised with hindsight that my low energy levels could have be down to eating grains, so, even though the simplicity of BTD is great, I'd like to stick with genotype, possibly SWAMI.  Many thanks, Frances
Posted by: Agathe, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 12:59pm; Reply: 1
Actually I find SWAMI brings more confusion. Yet I don't regret to have purchased it. I explain.

Like you, I've had a hard time to be sure of the measurements I made. I first thought I was a Teeacher, and followed this diet during six weeks. Then I started all the measurements again and found I had done one big mistake. In fact I was a Warrior.

Now, for SWAMI I am a Warrior if I say I am a Warrior... but the program sees me as an Explorer.

So, currently I'm a bit tired of changing diets all the time. It'll be the fourth change in six months ! (I began BTD in April.)

I've really payed a lot of attention to my diet throughout those past months, and I decide to take a break now. I mean that I'll continue to be careful about avoiding... avoids (which are pretty much the same in both diets) but I won't bother so much about wheither foods are beneficial or neutral. I'll do that during a few weeks and then I'll take a decision about following SWAMI's Warrior diet or SWAMI's Explorer diet. (I already guess it'll be Explorer's... because it allows me lamb and some poultry which Warrior's diet prohibits  ;))
Posted by: Frances AB, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 1:48pm; Reply: 2
Thank you Agathe for your detailed reply. Am I right in thinking that you can either input what you believe to be your genotype, in which case SWAMI accepts that, or allow SWAMI to work it out for you from scratch? It sounds intriguing.

I can certainly imagine how you must be fed up with switching several times, I felt rather the same when I went from Explorer to Teacher to Nomad, or something like that anyway. Each time, just as I did originally with BTD, I got myself all psyched up for losing certain foods and acquiring others, only to have to start again.
I'm still interested to hear of other people's experiences in working out their GT, are we (husband and I) in a minority of people who can't seem to measure accurately, decide where to measure from and to, can't determine fingerprint patterns etc. Frances  
Posted by: Agathe, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 2:30pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from Frances AB
Am I right in thinking that you can either input what you believe to be your genotype, in which case SWAMI accepts that, or allow SWAMI to work it out for you from scratch?

Yes, this is correct.
There is currently a lot of - interesting - talking about this on the SWAMI part of the forum.

IMHO, you and your husband do not belong to a minority because you're never sure your measurments are well done. Of course, certain people find it easier to do than others but I bet most GT people keep one or more doubts... about whether they have picked the right GenoType.
Posted by: Lloyd, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 2:30pm; Reply: 4
If you use SWAMI, the ultimate label it gives you for GT is irrelevant except in a very generic way. The diet will be for you, and only you. Whatever GT it tells you you are is less important than the diet it comes up with.  :)
Posted by: paul clucas, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 4:32pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Lloyd
If you use SWAMI, the ultimate label it gives you for GT is irrelevant except in a very generic way. The diet will be for you, and only you. Whatever GT it tells you you are is less important than the diet it comes up with.  :)

This is so very true - the Genotypes are real - the statistical evidence is there. Despite this a Genotype is not equivalent to any person so they cannot represent either you or your husband!

There is a difference in the "head space" or way of thinking between Swami and GTD.  In the GTD Genotypes are locations, whereas in Swami-land Genotypes are directions.

The advantage of the Swami diet is that you will generally have more generous lists unless you have a pressing health issue. You should see my carbohydrate list; I couldn't buy anything in a regular grocery store! This is because I am possibly the heaviest member on the board.

Adjusting is hard; I am still banging my head against some of my Swami diet. To avoid the measurement frustration you could message someone on the board and arrange a meeting. A Fellow or Master IfHI who is close to where you live could be your best resource. Everyone who has experienced your frustration has had help from someone. That's what the board is for.

Regular diet  - >  BTD  - >  GTD  - >  Swami  

Improved living with each transition. The greater the initial adjustment comes with the greater improvement in health.  

We would like to help make the adjustment easier, so please ask!
Posted by: Gale D., Saturday, October 3, 2009, 4:47pm; Reply: 6
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In the GTD Genotypes are locations, whereas in Swami-land Genotypes are directions.


I really like that description.

I think SWAMI is worth it, but not if you are going to tell it what your Genotype is. The whole aim is to let SWAMI figure it out for you. My SWAMI spits out 39-43 percent Warrior Genotype, depending on minor field changes.
Posted by: Melissa_J, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 10:08pm; Reply: 7
I am a big fan of SWAMI, and interestingly, even when I entered my finger measurements wrong it gave me about the same diet, which is the diet that works for me and feels the most right to me...the foods I crave when I want to be healthy, even though a few were not superfoods for me until SWAMI.  I lost some that I knew didn't help me, and got some neutrals back that I felt didn't do me any harm.  I thought I'd have to make some adjustments, throw some switches, make some changes, but I didn't have to, it just knew.
Posted by: Pink, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 10:46pm; Reply: 8
I'm fairly new to the whole BTD/GTD concept.  I've been trying to slowly incorporate the diet into my lifestyle without making any drastic changes that I know I won't stick with.  I tend to jump into things like this head-first without even taking a breath first, but I'm feeling more than a little overwhelmed!  Will jumping into SWAMI so early in my exploration be helpful, or should I continue to make slow, gradual changes?

Thanks for any help,
Debbie    ??)
Posted by: Lloyd, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:16pm; Reply: 9
Debbie, going stright to SWAMI might save some confusion and give you a less restrictive diet.

On the other hand, going gradual is fine too. Whatever you are comfortable with.
Posted by: mikendomsmum, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:22pm; Reply: 10
I really just dove in to the SWAMI.  I took the measurements and believed in them, entered everything in and voila.  I've got my diet and I'm done.  It does seem to turn out that the foods I crave are the foods I should be eating.  I've lost 5 pounds in a tad more than a month and I haven't felt like I'm on a diet at all because I've been enjoying all of my favorite foods!
Posted by: Pink, Saturday, October 3, 2009, 11:33pm; Reply: 11
Thank you Karen - that's great news!  Congratulations on the loss :)

I've been going to the gym, and I know I'm getting stronger, but the weight just seems to keep hanging around, so between that and the confusion with the diet, I've been getting frustrated.  Wow, that was one really long run-on sentence, huh? LOL

Anyway, I think I'll go ahead and take the plunge, too  ;)
Posted by: JJR, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 3:42am; Reply: 12
At this point, I'm frustrated with my swami.  I spent the money and it came up with a list that is nearly just like the AB diet.  And I felt better on the Teacher diet in comparison to when I was on the AB diet.  Then, I just tried a new grain that is supposed to be neutral according to my swami, and my guts haven't been the same since.  That was like Thursday night.  Although I will admit it could be something else.  I'm just not sure what.  Maybe something is going around, or it was something else I ate that was bad or something.  Or it's the full moon.  That has made things worse in the past.  

Also, I fit the description of a Nomad, like it says, but I also struggle with Teacher symptoms with my insides and bacteria overgrowth, yet I don't know if my swami is recognizing that as much as I'd like.  Even though I marked "yes" to stomach problems.

So, I don't know what to think.  I think once I get past this bout of inside upsetness by going back to what I know works, it could work.  But my guts are so sensitive, I have to take it really slow.  And I wish I could foresee which new things will mess with me.  It seems like certain grains and meats do it to me, but veggies I could probably eat everything and they don't seem to mess with me.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 4:08am; Reply: 13
I believe you are following another Dr s protocol.....
why not give one or the other a chance to work?
Posted by: Frances AB, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 8:54am; Reply: 14
Thank you so much for all your replies, your experiences and insights are very illuminating, and I now understand about the individuality in SWAMI as opposed to being a rigidly defined GT.
Another question - I'm very slender and have never been doing the BTD/GTD to lose weight but to boost my health (I have an autoimmune condition). I'm not sure if this is right but I seem to get the impression that people doing SWAMI want to lose weight, is that right?

Re the post about stomach problems and bacteria overgrowth (really sorry, I can't see your name now) I think that any change in diet may cause an immediate improvement or aggravation because different bacteria like different nutritional environments and the balance between the many gut bacteria shifts with a change in diet, so it's probably well worth sticking to one diet for a while to get the longer-term picture (unless you're in unacceptable pain/discomfort obviously). I've also experienced adverse reactions to supposedly beneficial or neutral foods and have a tendency to constipation, bloating etc. The criterion I use to judge whether a food is ok for me is my energy level, some foods just make me feel tired. It's not an exact science of course because reactions aren't always immediate, I think it can take up to 3 days if an allergy is present

I have contacted Dr Tom Greenfield (tip form Lola) so already feel that I'm on the way to being able to improve my diet even more. Thanks again to all.
Posted by: Gumby, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 2:37pm; Reply: 15
Many of us are on swami for our health rather than weight loss.  Some are even on it to gain weight.   :)
Posted by: mikendomsmum, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 5:23pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Pink
Thank you Karen - that's great news!  Congratulations on the loss :)

I've been going to the gym, and I know I'm getting stronger, but the weight just seems to keep hanging around, so between that and the confusion with the diet, I've been getting frustrated.  Wow, that was one really long run-on sentence, huh? LOL

Anyway, I think I'll go ahead and take the plunge, too  ;)


Thanks for the congrats!  I was doing ER4YT before SWAMI and I felt good on the O diet but wasn't losing weight.  SWAMI is better.  ;)
Posted by: delightfuldeb, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 6:33pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Pink
Thank you Karen - that's great news!  Congratulations on the loss :)

I've been going to the gym, and I know I'm getting stronger, but the weight just seems to keep hanging around, so between that and the confusion with the diet, I've been getting frustrated.  Wow, that was one really long run-on sentence, huh? LOL

Anyway, I think I'll go ahead and take the plunge, too  ;)


I've found that A blood types do NOT lose weight if they work out too much in a gym. My daughter was working out daily and not losing. I kept telling her to stop working out and just walk and her weight really started dropping.

I personally love the Swami. I find it not to be so generic and it is very specific for my health and weight concerns  ;D
Posted by: JJR, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 7:38pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Lola
I believe you are following another Dr s protocol.....
why not give one or the other a chance to work?


Lola, if you were referring to my post, my doctor's protocol is with the supplements that my body needs.  The diet is all Teacher since January.  And I feel LOTS better.  It has worked.  For sure.  

My goal with swami was to see about if I needed more protection for my liver and kidneys.  As I've said before, the supplements I take, look just like what Dr.D recommends for Teachers and Explorers.  And they definitely help.  

I'm kind of scratching my head because the SWAMI is calling me a Nomad, even though the measurements entered would put me as a teacher according to the book.  I KNOW I struggle with bacteria in the gut, but it has gotten better.  I also KNOW I struggle with a sluggish liver and kidneys.  So, I am sooooooo skeptical that this will work.  The list of foods on my swami is so liberal compared to the Teacher diet, that I don't see how it will work.  And then when I eat something new and it makes me fill icky, I start second guessing.  My mind wants to do the swami, but my body is telling me to stick with the teacher diet.  

Maybe FrancesAB is correct though, something new may have just upset the applecart and possibly even is helping.  I don't know.  I am just debating whether I want to continue with it.  I may just highlight all the teacher foods on the swami, and just add one real tentatively.  I don't know why this stuff has to be so hard on my body.  I just don't want to undo all the good that has happened so far.
Posted by: Chandon, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 8:51pm; Reply: 19
I found that after starting the Teacher diet after being on the wrong diet, I was sore for around a week. Since my nerves have issues from celiac disease and also intestinal absorption problems, my body was going through some healing. And really the healing just keeps continuing. With SWAMI, I am gradually seeing more nerve healing and more energy. After eating some avoids and then getting back to good compliance, my intestines were messed up again but quickly got back to normal. I think I was also experiencing some liver cleansing in the process. I see GTD and SWAMI as health-building, but SWAMI is  more specific to my needs. SWAMI calculated me as a Teacher just as the book did. I must be pretty definitely a Teacher because any changes to answer I give, as I remeasure or think about them more, doesn't change much at all.
Posted by: Wholefoodie, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 9:09pm; Reply: 20
Frances AB,
I am following my Swami and hoping to someday gain weight. Although I am doing it for my overall health, I have hope it may be the formula for me to put on a few pounds but it sure has me eating a large amount of food. Sometimes I just can't eat it all but maybe that is the amount I need to gain weight.
Lisa
Posted by: girly, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 10:14pm; Reply: 21
Alright..pardon my stupidity but where can I read more about this SWAMI? I also have no clue about the Genotype thing....any easy way for me to figure it out? ??) By doing a quick read ..I seem like an Explorer
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Sunday, October 4, 2009, 10:22pm; Reply: 22
Girly just waiting for you to be curious ;).
Dr. D'Adamo wrote a new book in 2007 called the Genotype Diet.
Rather then the 4 blood types he broke us up into 6 groups. It targets weight loss  and health issues better.

Then you have the SWAMI  which takes it one step further it is a diet that is just for you, it is like writing a diet/health book called Girly.

You can purchase  the SWAMI from the link "Store" at the top of this page.

Many of us have done the SWAMI but some are using the book as a guide.

Hope this helps a bit.

HiJacked thread.. :X :X
Posted by: Lola, Monday, October 5, 2009, 1:32am; Reply: 23
I referring to someone else s post AB..... :)
Posted by: Lola, Monday, October 5, 2009, 3:15am; Reply: 24
Quoted Text
have no clue about the Genotype thing....any easy way for me to figure it out?

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED010
Posted by: JJR, Monday, October 5, 2009, 3:25am; Reply: 25
Quoted from Lola
I referring to someone else s post AB..... :)


OK, gotcha, sorry about that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    :B :P ;D :K) :D :)
Posted by: Pink, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 4:18am; Reply: 26
My order is packed and ready to ship!  I can't wait (dance)
Posted by: Squirrel, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 5:12am; Reply: 27
Just a couple of quick questions, sorry if I'm in the wrong place.

Do I have to buy two SWAMI DVDs, one for me and one for my DH? Or can we both use the same software? Here in Singapore we are being charged the equivalent of US$100 for your US$70 package.

I'll be honest, I'm scared to try it. 10-ish months ago while I was waiting for GTD to arrive, I asked the question - am I going to lose yet more foods from my already limited list? Dr D himself answered me by quoting the part about how in "almost all" cases the food choices are better or something (can't find the post now). But I was one of the exceptions :( with my food choices being drastically cut and replaced by stuff that we can't get here. I feel the need for some encouragement with spending all those bucks on SWAMI. :B
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 5:24am; Reply: 28
you buy one swami for each of you.....that makes 2....is hub following GTD as well?

does he feel the same way about his food plan?


fresh produce you can get anywhere......and we might be able to help you find anything specific through internet....

I have learned to survive cooking everything from scratch...
and I, like you, do not get anything most people in the US
can buy at WFS.
Posted by: Squirrel, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 9:07am; Reply: 29
Ouch. Ah well.

Neither of us is following the GTD. I tried it for a month, lost a stupid amount of weight and went back on the BTD. Then the BTD/GTD questionnaire came out and it came up BTD for us both.

Hubby doesn't care one way or the other about his food plan, bless him. Not much makes him feel sick, avoids or not. He eats and enjoys the compliant food I put in front of him, or junk when I'm not there. ::) But at least it's sushi or chicken junk for my A-nonnie rather than beef junk these days.  :-/

I have also learned to survive cooking everything from scratch. Much of the fresh produce here is untested, so it's a lot of trial and error, and possibly the reason why things still aren't right. I know it's all progress and new research, but I have been feeling that the BTD is not being supported in the same way as the GTD. There are a lot more foods tested for GTD than BTD, even though BTD is still an accepted, marketed diet in its own right.

Hopefully SWAMI will sort all that out.
Posted by: Frances AB, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 6:29pm; Reply: 30
Hi, I am still a bit confused about how you decide whether to do BTD/GTD because surely foods are either ok for you or they're not. When I was doing BTD I was eating several foods that were AB beneficials and are avoids for Nomads. The most glaring example was eating spelt for years and then doing the GT calculator and finding white lines all over my fingerprints. I'm looking forward to doing SWAMI with Dr Tom Greenfield because, over all my 8 or 9 years of doing either BTD/GTD I've always felt that, although it's going on the right lines, it hasn't quite hit the spot for me and I'm hoping that SWAMI will..
I'm sure that the question of BTD conflicting with GTD foods must have come up before, so apologies if I'm being tedious here and also if I'm missing a point about choosing between the two, but I don't understand how a (probably) gluten intolerant Nomad could choose to go back to the AB diet. SWAMI, on the other hand, as I understand it, seems like the logical evolution of both ideas.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 8:51pm; Reply: 31
Quoted Text
Hubby doesn't care one way or the other about his food plan, bless him.


good!
that makes buying one swami easier!!! ;)

and more affordable!
Posted by: Dr. D, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 9:40pm; Reply: 32
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...because surely foods are either OK for you or they're not.


You'd think so, but that is not really true.
Posted by: girly, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 10:10pm; Reply: 33
It will be interesting for me too seeing that I am so allergic to wheat, eggs, all dairy and pineapple...could it go deeper??
Posted by: JJR, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 1:45am; Reply: 34
Quoted from girly
It will be interesting for me too seeing that I am so allergic to wheat, eggs, all dairy and pineapple...could it go deeper??


Yes

Posted by: paul clucas, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 2:56am; Reply: 35
Quoted from Dr. D

Quoted from Frances AB
because surely foods are either OK for you or they're not.


You'd think so, but that is not really true.


Foods marked with a black dot in Genotype or Swami can be re-introduced occasionally after an initial complete avoidance.  Also digestion function will improve as you work with the diet.  Use of deflect to force out lectin damage will take quite some time, rolling back years of lectin-borne health issues.  There are more examples that I cannot think of just now.

When you purchase the Swami Xpress diet it will adapt to a very personalized "You" diet.  You fill out your profile for this.  The diet can be changed to suit changes in yourself (successful weight loss) or become more accurate as you are able to answer more of the questions for your diet profile.  You are welcome to the help here on the board.
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 4:02am; Reply: 36
Quoted Text
There are more examples that I cannot think of just now.


take the health series books as an example on how food varies according to your issues, or disease susceptibilities, so not all
foods are either ok for you or they re not.....many variables come into play, thus swami s accurate personalized food choices.
Posted by: Frances AB, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 7:36am; Reply: 37
Thank you for your replies, v helpful - Dr D's a bit enigmatic but I think I see what you all mean. Basically, the effect that individual foods have will change as a person's health profile changes with compliance with the "right" diet. Presumably it's possible that some of the AB ok foods that didn't really agree with me might be ok after a period of eating an individualised diet. I find this very exciting because I've always felt that the approach is sound but the regimes I've followed (AB then various GTs until settling on Nomad) haven't been quite right.  Incidentally, possibly like many people here, the thing that got me started on the diet in the first place was seeing in the avoid column a whole load of foods that I'd stopped eating of my own volition because I'd realised, in some cases years before, that they made me feel ill: kidney beans, oranges, mangoes, blue cheese to name but a few.
Posted by: Squirrel, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 8:15am; Reply: 38
We did it. We bought one each. I've just done mine, doing hubby's tonight. As I'm the food preparer around here, I'm just praying that there will be a workable overlap between the food lists. And that the foods listed will be available in the UK.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 6:26pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from Squirrel
... And that the foods listed will be available in the UK.


To help identify foods in the UK set the preferred vernacular on the "Manage Your Account Page."

Preferred Vernacular:
Posted by: Pink, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 9:20pm; Reply: 40
Okay, now I'm confused and a little frustrated - yesterday, it said my order was boxed and ready to ship, and now it says "web order received" again!

Should I be concerned?  Or just patient?   ??)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 9:47pm; Reply: 41
there s a customer service number....
try that
Posted by: Pink, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 11:43pm; Reply: 42
False alarm!  I just got home from work, and SWAMI was in my mailbox - yea!

I can't wait to get it loaded(woot)
Posted by: paul clucas, Friday, October 9, 2009, 11:31pm; Reply: 43
Quoted from Frances AB
Another question - I'm very slender and have never been doing the BTD/GTD to lose weight but to boost my health (I have an autoimmune condition). I'm not sure if this is right but I seem to get the impression that people doing SWAMI want to lose weight, is that right?

I have contacted Dr Tom Greenfield (tip form Lola) so already feel that I'm on the way to being able to improve my diet even more. Thanks again to all.

With Dr Greenfield you would be better off than using Swami Xpress; you are in good hands.  My understanding from both of their forewords was that Dr, Greenfield also noticed the "genotype phenomenon" (intuiting that the patient was going to be a difficult Explorer or Warrior).  They have at least used each other as sounding boards for ideas, but the collaboration is likely deeper than that.

Just to answer you question about Swami; it is a dynamic hybrid of blood type and genotype approaches.  The emphasis is determined by your current needs.  As your needs change you can and should re-generate your Swami report.
Posted by: Squirrel, Saturday, October 10, 2009, 6:57am; Reply: 44
Quoted from C_Sharp


To help identify foods in the UK set the preferred vernacular on the "Manage Your Account Page."

Preferred Vernacular:

Yes, we spotted that one, although I hadn't realised that was what it meant - thanks!

A lot of things are still just not for sale there though, even when "translated". At least, they weren't last time we were there. I'm sure things are getting more varied all the time. I can't wait to get back and start searching now!
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Saturday, October 10, 2009, 2:58pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from C_Sharp


To help identify foods in the UK set the preferred vernacular on the "Manage Your Account Page."

Preferred Vernacular:


amazing I have to look into that - thanks
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Saturday, October 10, 2009, 3:37pm; Reply: 46
Quoted from paul clucas

Foods marked with a black dot in Genotype or Swami can be re-introduced occasionally after an initial complete avoidance.  .


The black dots are there for a reason. If I eat too many black dot foods my weight goes up and I start feeling lethargic.  For instance, I have many black dot cheeses. My weight loss gets stalled when I started eating them.  So you really have to be careful. But I don't think that's what Dr. D was referring to.   :)  Because I think that black dots are avoids. They just don't do as much damage.. I think Dr. D was referring to neutral foods as compared to beneficial foods. Ok...correct me Dr. D if I'm wrong..I like to understand as well :)
Posted by: Squirrel, Sunday, October 11, 2009, 1:51am; Reply: 47
Frances AB - I meant to say this earlier but I kept getting side-tracked, sorry! You asked about how to tell whether you should be on the BTD or GTD.

There is a questionnaire somewhere on this site which answers that, based on many of the questions which now appear in SWAMI. Before SWAMI-X, DH and I tried the GTD and found it unworkable for us for various reasons. Then the questionnaire came out, and when we ran it, it said we would be better off following the BTD anyway, so we went back to it.

Now we're just starting SWAMI-X and it's a mixture of BTD and GTD for us both. Interesting eh?
Posted by: Frances AB, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 2:12pm; Reply: 48
Thank you for that Squirrel. I've recently been SWAMIed by Tom Greenfield, as recommended by Lola (thanks again Lola). Much to my surprise I've emerged as a Teacher (I'd had a sneaking suspicion that I wasn't a Nomad after all but an Explorer).

The diet it's given me though is mainly BTD which is also a surprise because when I did that questionnaire it told me GTD. So a bit confused all round.
I had been doing the BTD for years and my energy wasn't great, although I'd stopped getting stomach pains, so I thought that I needed something different because it wasn't quite hitting the spot. Anyway, my diet now has Teacher input too, so I'll give it a go.
I'd better change my shield too.
Posted by: Ellie, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 4:26pm; Reply: 49
It's been interesting reading about the Swami, I can't afford it at the moment though..

i have been sticking (as much as i can, which may not be enough!) with the GTD, but still have issues with certain foods on that, which is really frustrating..(but amazingly have managed to keep off the weight I lost last year). I have a problem with citrus fruit (too much gives me really horrible headaches which last for days amongst other things.)

One of my concerns, as mentioned above, is that recommended foods may not be available where i live..(UK). So some feedback from fellow UKers would be interesting..

Also, do you put in details of any medical conditions you have? what kinds of things does it take into account? I see above it asked about stomach problems..Does it take into account any problems you have with certain foods? (apart from lactose/caffeine)?
Posted by: Frances AB, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 6:20pm; Reply: 50
Hi Ellie,
I'm obviously new to SWAMI so no expert, but yes, you can input medical conditions, allergies etc. I'm a bit confused about that aspect too, because even though Tom put in a mercury filter for fish, that I had white lines on my fingerprints and am (possibly) allergic to cow's dairy, I still got tuna, spelt and several cow's milk cheeses listed as beneficials, which doesn't make sense to me. However, he also input honey and alfalfa sprouts as being a problem for me and they appeared in the avoid column. So I don't know if it's a glitsch in the programme or what, but I shall ask him next time I see him.

BTW, the reason for alfalfa sprouts is that I have an auto-immune condition and alfalfas may trigger lupus or exacerbate existing auto-immune.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 6:52pm; Reply: 51
The specific health conditions asked about:

Swami health questions:


There are also family history questions and lab tests questions.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 7:02pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from Frances AB
Tom put in a mercury filter for fish, that I had white lines on my fingerprints and am (possibly) allergic to cow's dairy, I still got tuna, spelt and several cow's milk cheeses listed as beneficials, which doesn't make sense to me. However, he also input honey and alfalfa sprouts as being a problem for me and they appeared in the avoid column. So I don't know if it's a glitsch in the programme or what, but I shall ask him next time I see him.

BTW, the reason for alfalfa sprouts is that I have an auto-immune condition and alfalfas may trigger lupus or exacerbate existing auto-immune.


The mercury filter is available in SWAMI GenoType, but not in XPRESS.

In SWAMI when you tell it to deemphasize a type of food, it often just lowers ratings and does not totally eliminate them.  

In the GenoType edition it is possible to set a specific food value to avoid, that may have been done in your case for Alfalfa. The setting of a specific food value is a different sort of action than saying your lactose intolerant.

SWAMI Xpress does not allow us to set an individual food value, but if one knows they should not eat a specific food like Alfalfa, you do not have to eat it if SWAMI Xpress rates it highly.

Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 7:22pm; Reply: 53
Quoted from Ellie

One of my concerns, as mentioned above, is that recommended foods may not be available where i live..(UK). So some feedback from fellow UKers would be interesting..



I will point out that many of the food listed on SWAMI are not easy to get in the US either.

But most of the food ingredients used in the UK should be listed in SWAMI.  There is a vernacular settings to have the foods listed using names that are more common in the UK.
Posted by: Frances AB, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 7:54pm; Reply: 54
Thanks C_Sharp. Ellie, I'm also in the UK and still haven't fathomed out all the translations yet. Re availability, there are foods in several categories that we couldn't get, especially fish, but there's more than enough that we can get quite easily, sufficient to provide a varied diet rich in beneficials.
Posted by: Ellie, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 10:19pm; Reply: 55
Thank you, Frances & c-sharp for your helpful replies.

I shall be interested in seeing how you get on, Frances. I hope that it really helps you.
Posted by: Debra+, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 10:28pm; Reply: 56
Quoted from Ellie
Thank you, Frances & c-sharp for your helpful replies.

I shall be interested in seeing how you get on, Frances. I hope that it really helps you.


Hello Ellie...nice to see you on here again.  

Debra :)

Posted by: Frances AB, Friday, October 16, 2009, 9:04am; Reply: 57
Thank you, and yes, I'll certainly let you know how I get on.
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