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Posted by: creativeclaire, Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:21pm
Is there anything good about being a non secretor?

This is what I read.  

http://www.right4eu.us/Lewisgroup.html

It looks like I, a non secretor, am at a disadvantage to a myriad of ailments.    :'(

Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 1:30pm; Reply: 1
Yes they now know how important it is to eat right. :) ;D (I just couldn't resist)
Posted by: Victoria, Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 5:11pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Yes they now know how important it is to eat right. :) ;D (I just couldn't resist)


Ok, you know us too well, Andrea!   :B  :D  Those of us who don't give up our unhealthy lifestyles until we're brought to our knees!   ::)

Claire, you might find some camaraderie over on THIS THREAD about non-secretors.  :-)
Posted by: geminisue, Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:48pm; Reply: 3
from all our ailments, etc. We pretty well can assume we a non-secretor.

There's a Clubhouse for US!!!!! when were SURE!!!
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 6:58pm; Reply: 4
We are all looking much younger than all sechis at our ages...haaa...
isn't that a value ??) ;) ;D ...(goofy)(clap)(ok)(dance)(dizzy)(think)(clap)(smarty)....
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 12:48am; Reply: 5
"Nonnies" might end up being healthier because they have to watch certain things more.
But for nonnie Os, they get to eat avocados!!
There are others on here that will give you more answers. Wait a little & they will post.  Help is on the way!
Posted by: glamour, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:00am; Reply: 6
What? Is there something wrong with being a Nonnie?  ::)
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:40pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from glamour
What? Is there something wrong with being a Nonnie?  ::)



For me yes I largely feel so... the affects of it and me being a child and not knowing any better are holding me back from everything I want and feel is important to me.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:41pm; Reply: 8
DOS how is that a benefit?
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:45pm; Reply: 9
Sorry I was referencing the last person to post. Fixed it.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 6:48pm; Reply: 10
Oh so you think that you being a nonnie has kept you from accomplishing things in life?
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 8:30pm; Reply: 11
I think Candida and bad diet have. However be a nonnie puts me in the situation where recovery is much harder. There are some things that do not recover and would not of happened as well.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 8:33pm; Reply: 12
DOS you are so young you have time to figure this out.
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 8:42pm; Reply: 13
From an economic stand point not really as far as I can tell, well the opposition is a little much with candida not backing off.
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 9:49pm; Reply: 14
Give it time.  And drink some Yerba Mate.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 10:01pm; Reply: 15
DOS might want to try this

PM me if you want more information.
http://www.nativeremedies.com/articles/the-roll-of-biotin-in-the-treatment-of-candida.html
Posted by: Debra+, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 10:03pm; Reply: 16
Quoted from Andrea AWsec
Oh so you think that you being a nonnie has kept you from accomplishing things in life?


Yes, to this answer, at times.   Understanding nonnieness now has really helped.

This is one of my favorites...

'Note to self:  I am me and, also, an O-nonnie..  I'm allowed not to fit the mold.'-Squirrel

Debra :)
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Thursday, October 1, 2009, 10:38pm; Reply: 17
Ah how I love my nonnie friends because they don't fit the mold.  I had a teacher that told us to delight in differences.
  I love how they think!

Posted by: Plucky, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 1:56am; Reply: 18
Is it common for nonnies to look younger than their ages?  Or was Tomatilla just joking?  Most people are very surprised when they find out how "old" I am.  
Posted by: Tom Martens, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 2:56am; Reply: 19
Non Secreting Blood Type O's get the benefit of having better clotting when it comes to wounds.
Posted by: gulfcoastguy, Tuesday, October 6, 2009, 3:00am; Reply: 20
Well people tend to under estimate my age also but then I also come from a long life family. I also was never a smoker, I understand that tends to age people....or maybe prevent them from aging.
Posted by: paul clucas, Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 8:41pm; Reply: 21
If Nonniehood is so negative in health terms why are Explorers (mainly nonnies) said to come from areas where people live the longest; Basque, Caucuses mountains?  Perhaps when Dr. D' Adamo has not entirely figured out all of nonnie differences.
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, October 8, 2009, 1:17am; Reply: 22
Why do nonnies exist?  Because of the ever-changing evolution of man, man is now evolving faster than ever and becoming more unique as time goes on.  Diversity is increasing as population increases and now with the globalisation and mobilisation of man.  

Why do they live the longest?
Just a theory, the annoying low-grade health problems like candida overgrowth, bacterial overgrowth, for instance, make nonnies more aware of their health.  With self-awareness, over time they learn to avoid food that is bad for them such as those containing too much sugar.

Increased sensory awareness, e.g sense of smell, and reactions to foods as above, makes them more sensitive to what they take in, leading to overall better health.  They are more likely to be super tasters (from what I have seen) and lower in digestive enzymes to process fat, so select less fatty or bitter food.  They have better hearts from eating less fat.  Also the reduced risk of cancer which is one of the biggest killers of older people.

Blah blah alright, just a theory
Posted by: paul clucas, Thursday, October 8, 2009, 2:51am; Reply: 23
Quoted from Symbi
Increased sensory awareness, e.g sense of smell, and reactions to foods as above, makes them more sensitive to what they take in, leading to overall better health.  They are more likely to be super tasters (from what I have seen) and lower in digestive enzymes to process fat, so select less fatty or bitter food.  They have better hearts from eating less fat.  Also the reduced risk of cancer which is one of the biggest killers of older people.

Blah blah alright, just a theory

Well yogurt use, which my father swears by, is endemic in the Balkans, Caucuses.  Also vinticulture started in the Caucuses. Perhaps the local food culture is acctualy close to an ideal Explorer (read majority of Nonnies) diet. I don't know enough of Basque culture.  Do they eat much lamb?
Posted by: Squirrel, Thursday, October 8, 2009, 3:08am; Reply: 24
Quoted from Debra+


Yes, to this answer, at times.   Understanding nonnieness now has really helped.

This is one of my favorites...

'Note to self:  I am me and, also, an O-nonnie..  I'm allowed not to fit the mold.'-Squirrel

Debra :)

Wow I had no idea I had so much influence!

I just edited my siggie yesterday when I did my SWAMI-X - I think I'll put that back in again.  ;)
Posted by: DoS, Thursday, October 8, 2009, 5:27am; Reply: 25
Quoted from paul clucas
If Nonniehood is so negative in health terms why are Explorers (mainly nonnies) said to come from areas where people live the longest; Basque, Caucuses mountains?  Perhaps when Dr. D' Adamo has not entirely figured out all of nonnie differences.


Mixing between Neanderthal and African lineage is my conclusion at this point in large part.

It seems to have less to do with secretion in a lot of ways and more to do with the bad parts of Neanderthal mix. If you read up on Neanderthal genes and problems that seem to be expressed these days, associated with them, you will find a list of things that are more likely to be non-secreter problems.

The people that resemble old Basque and Neanderthal people seem to have the lowest problems until rather old age. There are exceptions. Also perhaps the asymmetry that comes with Explorers is contradictory DNA traits between African and Neanderthal in the womb. I have noticed that many Explorers are very symmetrical but they all resemble the classic Neanderthal/Basque look. The ones that do not seem to be the ones with more problems, more asymmetry, less physical qualities that resemble Neanderthal/Basque.

Benefits? I think eating the right stuff can make you extremely physically capable when healthy. I think the stamina quality can carry over. The ability for survival in harsher conditions seem to show sometimes. The survival traits seem to be negated by common day food that is abusive to the person though, often. I guess it depends as what you see as benefits.

Type A non-secreters, Teachers seem to have greatly enhanced physical size and capability. The Warriors seem too resemble the more slow twitch Teacher not the fast twitch bulky secreter Warrior; they do not seem to be endo anything. The warrior non-secreter may not be as likely to cancer by being subject to eating meat, and benefit better from the meat when forced into it for food. Not to say there are not a ton of bad things, but not all seems to be horrid. I know the healing factor applies to me. Physical ailments I deal with better. My heightened sensitivities make me physically capable of a lot of things too.

I can not speak for any other GenoType since I have no experience with them and secretion, yet.

Anyways overall the lack of protection from being a non-secreter in today's world is not good overall I would say. It is an old thing and will not be societal useful until the next apocalypse and days of Mad Max living, if you ask me. Personally people may like some of the aspects but that is from person to person, has nothing to do with the grand picture.

I still think secretion is a modern adaptation, but it seems Neanderthals genes are a little too strong to just surpass completely, over night. They have infiltrated relatively every society it seems. I think that says something about some early mixing. Genetics tell us we have some similarities they seem to increase over time with assumed ancestors.





Posted by: proto, Friday, October 9, 2009, 10:20am; Reply: 26
Non-existent body odour?
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:24pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from DoS


The warrior non-secreter may not be as likely to cancer by being subject to eating meat, and benefit better from the meat when forced into it for food.


Well I guess that once again makes me a "non mold fitter". I do really really poorly on meat. I have had ovarian cancer and am only 28.

I need to figure out what really I need to know about being a non secretor A Warrior. Is there any reading someone would suggest?
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:25pm; Reply: 28
Quoted from proto
Non-existent body odour?



Well that is a nicer upside of being a nonnie! lol Which does makes sense as to why everyone always comments on how good I smell! haha
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:46pm; Reply: 29
If you are a true Nonnie.. you will never ask about it... you will be strong you will know who you are you will be proud to be one of a special group.. you will adjust and then say WHY HAS NOT MOSES thought about being a nonnie?? the eleventh commandment: thou shall eat Nonnie Compatible foods.. ha-ha

It makes me what I am.. BUT I DID THE TEST.. and I LIKE my UNIQUNESS amongst millions of others..     I like rolling eyes I like fun and if you ask me our sex life can be great.. so what is your question??
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 10, 2010, 7:59pm; Reply: 30
Well you have to actually be having sex for your sex life to be great... but it sure was when I was having a sex life. lol

Just found out that I am a nonnie. So now I'm trying to figure out what that really means... All my stuff that was in storage is being brought to the house for me to sort through and store here... and in that stuff is all my books. So I'll have to read through my "Live Right" book to understand my unique nonnieness.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:40pm; Reply: 31
welcome nonnie.. so nice to have you here..  

as for a sex life.. its all in the intent.. get your stuff unpacked and then find a friend to go to town with.. or whatever.. but never talk of it in past tense.. no matter the realities..  8)

I personally likee idea if taichi its such a powerful way to live and good for A's.. while other exercise is not really all so good..  ;D
Posted by: christaalyssaA+, Monday, May 10, 2010, 9:43pm; Reply: 32
Well my sex life will just be past tense for awhile. I'm living in the middle of no where and am just about to give birth. The dating pool here is non-existent. I will probably be here for the next 3 years at the most now. So... ya... I'll just have to remember the good times for now.

I like Pilates and yoga. That good exercise. Generally I just enjoy the laziness of being an A. lol
Posted by: Poppy, Monday, May 10, 2010, 11:30pm; Reply: 33
Hi! I'm sort of new to the forum. I was on here a cuple of years ago. I have logged on under another name, and have just found out today that I am a non secretor. I have the BTD book, the Cook Right book, but so far haven't read the Live Right book. Is this the one I need for particulars about the NON diet, for type O??
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 12:20am; Reply: 34
If you want to follow the Blood Type diet for Non-Secretor, Live Right 4 Your Type would be the correct book.

If you want to take the test to determine if The Genotype Diet would be more suited to you, it is here:  http://www.dadamo.com/which_diet_is_right.htm

If it says the Genotype Diet is best, then The Genotype Diet is the best book.

The SWAMI software would give you the best version of The Genotype Diet for you...
http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=ED070
Posted by: Goldie, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 12:49am; Reply: 35
actually I was told .. that the conditions books are the only ones showing the nonnies food value.. so if it matters then ...
Posted by: nwiser, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 3:14am; Reply: 36
No stomach flu!
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 4:19pm; Reply: 37
Poppy welcome back!

which was your ID before?
Posted by: SandrAruba, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 4:30pm; Reply: 38
Are there any benefits to being a secretor? You are what you are and finding out one is a nonnie explains a lot of issues that people are having. There are pros and cons to everything, this is also one of those things.

Personally I think it's cool to be special.  :P ;D
Posted by: ABJoe, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 4:30pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from Goldie
actually I was told .. that the conditions books are the only ones showing the nonnies food value.. so if it matters then ...

Live Right 4 Your Type introduced Nonniehood to the world and it definitely has the Nonnie food values in it.  The http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/typeindexer.htm on the website has the most current BTD values...
Posted by: SoulfulLori, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 4:33pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from nwiser
No stomach flu!


Is that typical for a nonnie?  Oh...see that, I always thought I was like a horse and just coudn't throw up.  I haven't had a stomach virus since I was a kid.  Everyone gets them but me.  Hmmm...who knew.
Posted by: Poppy, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 6:04pm; Reply: 41
Thanks for the sites for the NON secretor info. I will be checking it out. What are the "conditions" books??
Posted by: Poppy, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 6:11pm; Reply: 42
Hi Lola, Hi everybody! I was under Tish, did so well from the BTD for a couple of years, that I didn't use this forum for a while. Then I had a heck of a time because when I logged on later, it said "e-mail already in use." So, I made up all new stuff, and here I am.

I now want to "tweek" this wonderful diet some more, and found out I'm a Non secretor, a bit of a surprise for me.I'll be on here more often. It's a wonderful place, with all you very supportive and well informed people!  
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 7:37pm; Reply: 43
:)
Posted by: Green Root, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 7:41pm; Reply: 44
I also read that non secretor are more resistens to at least noro viruses.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 7:49pm; Reply: 45
Quoted Text
What are the "conditions" books??


http://www.4yourtype.com/products.asp?dept=19
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 8:20pm; Reply: 46
My non secretor warriors in my family can eat the beautiful organic tomatoes growing un my garden!!!!  I am jealous!!!(drool) :) :)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 9:44pm; Reply: 47
I don't know if I'm a nonnie or not, but I do seem to have a lot of the "nonnie sensitivities". So, even if I'm a secretor, I still have fibromyalgia and need to be extra-careful with my diet and environment.

What this sensitivity means, to me, is that I'll feel sick when I eat something bad for me. So then I have to be super careful about what I eat or I'll feel the effects immediately. It's uncomfortable, but I really have no choice but to clean up my diet. The alternative is to be barely functioning.

Meanwhile, others can eat toxins and not know it. They think they're "fine", when in reality deeper problems are occurring in their bodies. Things like cancer are more likely to develop in people who don't realize they're poisoning themselves and keep on doing so.
Posted by: macawluver, Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:24pm; Reply: 48
Quoted Text
No stomach flu!


Not always the case. Although I don't get them frequently, I have still had some pretty nasty ones over the years.
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, May 21, 2010, 9:03am; Reply: 49
Goldie...too funny... but you're hitting the nail...as often ;)...I vote for Tantra ;)  ;D :D ;D ;D(funny)
Posted by: Goldie, Friday, May 21, 2010, 12:04pm; Reply: 50
To the original question what is good about being a nonnie.... this:: you are here.. without being one you would be doing "slimmmmm slow" diet.. and poisoning your body until you get cancer or something..

so maybe being a nonnie (with issues)  brought you to BTD/GENO.. is there  :Dmore to be said????
Posted by: Poppy, Friday, May 21, 2010, 12:38pm; Reply: 51
I'm still not sure I'm a gatherer.... my hubby said, "Are you having fun reading, researching, thinking about all this?" Since my answer is definitely YES, I shall continue, and probably go and get the Live Right book, maybe from the library to start, to find out about nonnie stuff(totally new to me).
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, May 21, 2010, 2:03pm; Reply: 52
Good point Goldie.  
What about as well as no body odour, you don't secrete your blood type antigen into your saliva so you (if you eat right) have good breath and are kissable.   :K)
... Not my fault someone started talking about it in the past page and got me thinking..

I like you can be referred to as your Nonnieness if you are acting regal.   :D (wink)

The disabled parking is good too, just kidding  ;D Like we need it if we follow Dr Ds plan. Ha!
Posted by: RedLilac, Saturday, May 22, 2010, 6:00pm; Reply: 53
If we spit on the sidewalk, the cops can’t tell our blood type.   If we get slashed in the arm by a robber, then we’ll clot up fast and still be able to run away.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, May 22, 2010, 10:21pm; Reply: 54
characteristics nonnies
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-nonnie/m-1254092590/
Posted by: SandrAruba, Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 8:00am; Reply: 55
Quoted from RedLilac
If we spit on the sidewalk, the cops can’t tell our blood type.   If we get slashed in the arm by a robber, then we’ll clot up fast and still be able to run away.


Hahahahaha, I have to remember that...   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 6:44pm; Reply: 56
I know, I'm just repeating what I've said so many times, but if I was not a nonnie, I don't think I would take this to heart the way I have.  I know myself, and I would make excuses why a little of this and that wouldn't really hurt me in small amounts . . . .  :B

I know I'm a nonnie.  I know I don't have the kind of body that holds up under the abuse of eating toxins.  So my life is simple, and my health regime is a success!  (sunny)  
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