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Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 5:45am
OK, it arrived!!  After all this time and now I have to wait some more to get my secretor status. >:(
In the meantime I'll be playing with it and going with the majority of the population, I will use secretor value. :D ;D :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:01am; Reply: 1
Both my parents are descendants of immigrants from Italy and Spain, so I am ticking 'Southern European' for ethnicicity.  OK?
Posted by: Kumar, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:41am; Reply: 2
Hi Cristina, sounds exciting. I am curious to know what % of teacher the SwamiXpress will accord to you, and what major changes in your regular teacher diet will it make. Looking forward to know the results. I am as eager as you are!
Posted by: Jenny, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:31am; Reply: 3
So glad yours came today too Cristina. By the way, Kumar, I have not found any % on my print out---where do you look for it?
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:31am; Reply: 4
It looks like swami is making me a Teacher, secretor or non, I tried them both.  But I did not get a chance to check the food plans/cookbook because Swami has been optimized to use Mozilla and I am using Explorer.  So here I logoff to download Mozilla and get back into swami.
Posted by: Jenny, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 7:32am; Reply: 5
Quoted from Cristina
Both my parents are descendants of immigrants from Italy and Spain, so I am ticking 'Southern European' for ethnicicity.  OK?


sounds good to me
Posted by: Kumar, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:14am; Reply: 6
Jenny,

I have not done SwamiXpress as yet and do not have plans to do it in the near future too. Since all those who are doing it are reporting % (Jumari? just did it too) without fail. Possibly, some of our friends can tell you how to see it?
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 8:59am; Reply: 7
Jenny,
You will find the percentage on your report, a couple of screens down where is talking about your Genotype under RESULTs section.  In one of my reports it is in the 4th page.

Yes, I have printed 2 reports, one for secretor and the other one non-secretor.
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 9:50am; Reply: 8

When choosing secretor status I get a 45% (Good Association) with the GT3 Teacher Genotype.

When I choose non-secretor I get 41% (again good association) with the GT3 Teacher Genotype.

I have not have time to digest the lot yet, but a quick skim through the reports indicates that the diet choices have expanded and I have more options than the GT book (except for dairy).

AT first impression, if I were to choose one, I will keep the nonnie diet plan, I get tomatos ( no ketchup or tomato juice), I get peaches, strawberries, apples, lots of juices and red wine.  All diamonds.

In the dairy department I gain Feta and lost to the Black Dot category most of the GTD cheeses in both reports. No Neutral in the non-secretor report while I gained Goat milk in the secretor report under neutrals.

No Superfood or Neutral meats for secretor, but I have 3 choices with a diamond in the non-secretor.

Because by the time they send me the saliva test kit, perform the test, send the specimen and get results back it may take at least a couple of weeks, I will be compiling a 'common' ground list of items to get me through.

My portion sizes are small in the range of 'smaller than the palm of my hand' and quater cups or single tbsps per week!!!  I will check the forum first to see if there are comments or answers regarding my queries, otherwise I will keep on posting them here.
Posted by: Kumar, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 10:26am; Reply: 9
So we have one more case of confirmed "philanthropist" among us! The portion sizes recommended are possibly linked to your weight loss target? May be the sizes go up once you are around the expected weight?
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 10:29am; Reply: 10
Yes, Kumar in both cases, I think.
Posted by: Gale D., Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 6:29pm; Reply: 11
Quoted Text
My portion sizes are small in the range of 'smaller than the palm of my hand' and quater cups or single tbsps per week!!!


I thought all of my 1/4-cup and Tbsp foods were "Weekly" but it turned out some of them are "Daily". Big sigh of relief.  8)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, September 23, 2009, 11:50pm; Reply: 12
My First Swami breakfast!!(drool)

warm lemon water 1st thing in the morning. (missed the walk today, got up at 6:00am, record late time for me!!  And I went to bed at 9:30pm last night.  Is my body using more hours to sleep now? Walked up as usual feeling great. Now back to the breaky:

Yogi berries (SF), currants (SF) (demoted to BlackDots thanks to C_Sharp advice below), some plain yogurt (D), 1 small sliced kiwi  fruit (D), a few sliced strawberries (SF).  Sprinkled Chia and pumpkin seeds (both neutrals but love to have them back good vitamins contributions), and flaxseeds (D).

2 Diamonds+ 3 SuperFoods + 3 Neutrals + (1 Hidden Black Dot)= One plateful of yummy Swami medicine taken under a beautiful sun for a boost of hormones!! (ondrugs) :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:19am; Reply: 13
Lets talk portions:
I have created a printout of Swami suggested portions for each category.  I have stuck this to the fridge and pantry door, so they are on my face, grabbing my attention when I most need it.

But, I do not walk around with a measuring cup and a spoon in my hand. A little bit more of this, a little bit less of that, knowing that I am being honest, truthful and closest to the diet as possible, using the right positive energy when putting food in my plate or glass, with the feeling of doing the right thing and with my eye on the writings on the wall and fridge, is more important to me.  I know it is what keeps me going ...

I weight myself today and I am proud to annouce that I have been demoted to the very healthy 87s: 87.5kg.  That may sound like a lot to some, particularly when I am only 1.56m, but looking behind an unhealthy over 95kg a few weeks ago, this is big!! very big!! I owe it all to Dr D's GTD system, Teacher GT.  It has been an easy, effortlessly ride.

I am expecting nothing less from SwamiXpress and today marks the beginning of it.

(Although I missed the walk this morning, I will be compensating with some more reboundings later on.)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 12:25am; Reply: 14
keep up the spirit and great work! ;)
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 1:00am; Reply: 15
wd lost so much weight already on the book genotype diet imagine what SWAMI will do! (book2)(clap)(woot)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 1:04am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Cristina
...
Yogi berries (SF), currants (SF), some plain yogurt (D), 1 small sliced kiwi  fruit (D), a few sliced strawberries (SF).  Sprinkled Chia and pumpkin seeds (both neutrals but love to have them back good vitamins contributions), and flaxseeds (D).
...


You may already be aware of this, but just in case you were not. The currants referred to in the blood type diet and GenoType (and I presume SWAMI as well) do not refer to small raisins.

Instead they are small red, black, or white berries similar to gooseberries.

Typebase explains the difference between currants which are small dried grapes and the berries:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?134



Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 1:23am; Reply: 17
My stragegy to fight hunger cravings:

Well, doing what Dr D and many wise people out there have been telling us for ages: Use our grinding devices before we send the fuel down the digestive ride.

Last night we had steamed brown rice (cooked on rice cooker) and tossed on an iron pot with some dry curry, sage (D), sea salt and broccoli and enough water to make it nice and saucy (very tasty). We accompanied this with grilled portobello mushrooms filled with tamari sause, minced onion and garlic. A few leaves of lettuce and grated Romano cheese completed the dish.
I served a plate for myself and a plate for DH.  We sat down to enjoy our meal.  I like to enjoy my meal, eat slowly and chew it, chew it, chew it before I take my next mouthful.  Our servings were generous, fill my plate and I tend to give hubby a bit bigger serving, thinking his male constitution can handle it better.  Well, before I had a chance to finish my serving, DH finish his first plate, had time to get up and munch on something else in the kitchen while he dish his second serve, sat down and finish his second serve, a few minutes before a finished my first serve.

The interesting thing is that, I could hardly finish my serving.  I completed the meal feeling very satisfied and did not need to eat anything else for the rest of the night.  Needles to say, within the hour, DH was munching on Apples, kiwis, nuts, flaxseed bread ...

I should be happy though, at least he is now eating his teacher food, since it is all he can find at home now ... He is starting to get the message now, at least he is asking if this is OK or not to eat ... ;D

I used to behave like that, living with this constant hunger, sloping butter on bread all day, craving for chocolate and eating whole bars on my own.  Feeling the hollow feeling in my tummy, and the desperation of covering it up with food ... Those were the bad old days ... It seems so far away now ... ::) :) :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:01am; Reply: 18
C_Sharp, Thanks for the advice.  I did not know that there were two different fruits for currants and it did not occurred to me to check Typebase for it.  I have contacted the suppliers to confirm if our currants are the grape or berry type, but I suspect it is the grape type.  I am waiting for their reply. :-/ :D

In the meantime, I demote them from SF to BD (Black Dot, same category as Grapes in my swami).
Posted by: Chandon, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 2:17am; Reply: 19
Quoted from C_Sharp


You may already be aware of this, but just in case you were not. The currants referred to in the blood type diet and GenoType (and I presume SWAMI as well) do not refer to small raisins.

Instead they are small red, black, or white berries similar to gooseberries.

Typebase explains the difference between currants which are small dried grapes and the berries:

http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/depictor5.pl?134


Didn't the tip of the day for teachers recently mention using the typical dried currant that we readily find? I think it said they were like raisins but smaller.




Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 3:03am; Reply: 20
Quoted from Chandon


Didn't the tip of the day for teachers recently mention using the typical dried currant that we readily find? I think it said they were like raisins but smaller.



Could some of the moderators maybe check this?  I usually download those tips, but I missed a few and the one you mentioned was one of them ...  But Currants do get mentioned for teachers in at least one I have (to sweeten up yogurt), but not explanation on them.(think)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 4:05am; Reply: 21
Quoted from Cristina
Could some of the moderators maybe check this?  


The tip of the day data is not organized in search a way that I can search it (or even access it, beyond the current day).

The tip of the day material used to be emailed by WaterFront Media to a mailing list. When this was done it was noted that some of the tips contained advice that was counter to the GenoType diet book. I do not know if all the errors were edited out after WaterFront Media no longer controlled the GenoType diet site.

As a teacher I keep hoping to find grapes and dried grapes that would not be avoids. But I think the reason currants are diamonds is they are not derived from a grape.
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 4:12am; Reply: 22
Quoted from C_Sharp


The tip of the day data is not organized in search a way that I can search it.

The tip of the day material used to be emailed by WaterFront Media to a mailing list. When this was done it was noted that some of the tips contained advice that was counter to the GenoType diet book. I do not know if all the errors were edited out after WaterFront Media no longer controlled the GenoType diet site...


Oooops! Reality check!!  And I thought that Dr D himself was putting up these tips!!  :( :'(  I still find most of them useful and appropriate, but I will be keeping a weary eye on their content though ... ??)(grin) :)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:26am; Reply: 23
no worries, I believe those reappear like a scroll..... :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 5:35am; Reply: 24
Quoted from Lola
no worries, I believe those reappear like a scroll..... :)


Yes, they do.  When I was getting the e mails it appeared to be like a three month cycle.
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 7:20am; Reply: 25
Subtle changes:
I made some changes to SwamiXpress personal medical history remembering that I had a duodenal ulcer in my early twenties (I ticked digestive problems) although it got fixed then and its been fine since; also considering the blood result with the slightly elevated liver enzymes, I also ticked the appropriate box.  After these changes I reset the corresponding calculating fields to allow Swami to define the best diet report.

The result produced some subtle changes with more cheeses, vegies like Pepper Bell moving from superfood to the Avoids list, Yogurt although still a SF is not a diamond any more, but the cheeses are. And my suggested supplements stayed the same.  

Interesting ...
Wonderful to have the doctor at home!!(book2)(sunny)
Posted by: Jenny, Thursday, September 24, 2009, 9:57am; Reply: 26
;DSo true
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:16am; Reply: 27
Today I decided to update Swami with new values.  My weight has been in the low 87kg the whole week, today 87.0 so I decided it was time to record this progress.  OK, the weight is not moving fast, but I do not think I want that at this stage, with the level of activity I am doing (I probably need to increase that a bit - did anyone say something about As having it hard to focus on exercise?) and not taking any supplements yet.
The tape measurements are keeping me very happy though.  I do not know what is going on, but I lost 3 more centimetres off the waist and 2cm from the hips. :) :) I am very, very happy ...

Hopefully my supplements will get here today, that may help to safely speed up things a bit.

Since I recorded my medical history in SwamiX, the GT% values changed a bit compare to my earlier report here:  41% for non secretor and 44% for secretor.  Still both very good associations.

Have you noticed my Avatar is still showing Sec? I am living it there even though I do not know what I am.  I will have to change it later, so why bother now?  I am sort of doing the nonnie diet though, go with the hunch.

Today I had a one-two punch antioxidant breakfast full of color and rextures: yogurt, strawberries, kiwi fruit, dates, grated apple,gojiberries, flaxseeds, chia seeds, pumpkin seeds and honey.

I have just taken the flaxseed foccacia of the oven (thanks Lola for the tip) and I will have that with DH with a cup of steaming black organic coffee (freshly ground).
:) :)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 12:46am; Reply: 28
:)
Posted by: shells, Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 9:37am; Reply: 29
Christina,

I had an ulcer in my twenties also, so I am placing a bet that you are a nonnie!    ::)  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, October 10, 2009, 7:12am; Reply: 30
A bit of an update here:

Pathlab does the Secretor tests for saliva and blood.  So I completed them both.  For the blood specimen I had to go to the local QML lab and get them to juice me up and then I posted both the saliva and blood speciments back to Path Lab.  That was about two days ago, so I will have another 2 weeks or maybe less to wait for the results.  
Yes Shell, I bet myself to being a noni too, that is the Swami choice I am following now.

I received my supps last week and I am starting to use half the recommended dosages, thinking of increasing as I lose more weight.

Teachers 3 pack, Protein Blend A, Deflect A and Proberry are in my patry now.  3 pack and Deflect, I take daily.  Protein blend depending on the kind of day I have, it is now part of my emergency kit and Proberry is on stand by for when needed if at all.

My DD has arranged for me to have easy access to her gym club, getting me a good promo.  I have started doing the resistance work recommended by Swami increasing my level of activity to 5-6 days a week of good workouts.  I had a screening session done which showed me as being pretty flexible, except for my pectorials and some hidden areas at my upper back.  No surprises here, the result of doing IT work for so many years.  I have been doing pilates twice a week and walking for over two months, but two session of this PT resistance training (doing squats and floor ball work) left me this weekend discovering muscles (in a painful way) that I did not know I had. :(  But, the experts reckon that is good, it means the muscles are getting a work out!!  
I think I should be pleased, although the scales showed a bit of an up trend from last week.  Gaining muscle mass? :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, October 11, 2009, 12:03am; Reply: 31
All this personality talking on the forum, I decided to try different test. I am posting my results somewhere else too, but I want to record this in here to keep record of my Swami journey.

Well!!  Surprise!!!  I took the 'similarminds.com' test recommeded by Jeanb and Dgale in some other thread and it gives me the following values:

Actual and preferred as ESFJ

My previous Swami Briggs was ISFJ, by just changing the I to E it changes my diet completely and now makes me a 41% Warrior!!  Before I was a 41% Teacher!!

So, the million dollar question is: I am an Introvert or an Extrovert?  How do you people perceive me?

The curious thing is that in looking at both diet lists, although the Teacher diet list is a lot more diverse than the Warrior one, my food choices since I started in the Teacher journey had been suitable to both.  A couple of cheeses and fruit items, plus honey that I have been eating in the Teacher diet are now either avoids or black dots in the Warrior one. And, even though I have the Teacher supplements something inside me has told me to go easy on them ... Ummmm

I started the GT journey as a Warrior, remember? Had measurements wrong then ...  Is something else going to take me back there?

I still have the Secretor saliva and blood tests results to get.  That may also decide the swaying to one way or another.

In the meantime, I keep doing what I am doing, but I will type those Warrior lists on my handy spreadsheet just in case ...
(think)(wink) :)
Posted by: Jenny, Sunday, October 11, 2009, 8:51am; Reply: 32
In answer to your question, I experience you as a wonderful Extravert my dear. You keep sharing and sharing in a really open way, and even make long distance phone calls to colleagues to keep in touch. But I am also sure that the final scientific measurements that you are waiting for will be the main touchstone, and will help you get settled. As I have said to J., you will not be a Teacher or a Warrior, you will be you. ;D
Posted by: Kumar, Sunday, October 11, 2009, 10:52am; Reply: 33
Cristina,

Your results provide insights into how sensitive Swami is to personality type. I just completed the test and I am now discovering that my ISTP has changed to something different in the mean time. As I have been administering these tests for about two decades now, I would suggest that you take more time with them and also do them repeatedly before ascertaining your type. Have your close friend or someone who knows you for very long time (not those who have not met you physically but only via internet) or spouse assess you on the same questionnaire and this will give you better results. A personality test involves a lot of subjectivism and there are chances of errors. Also please note that, our inner prefences are often opposite of what we appear doing. For example, an introvert now and then mixes with people and even becomes the centre of the party but she will only be able to energize herself with quiet moments of reflection after such parties; whereas an extrovert would energize herself by simply involving in the party and would now and then go for alonness, this alonness does not energize her. And so on.
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, October 11, 2009, 11:30am; Reply: 34
Thanks for your appreciation Jenny and excellent explanations Kumar.  Much appreciated both of you.  I will have to do some soul searching to determine if this open extrovert is hidding a real Introvert.  8) :D
Posted by: Drea, Monday, October 12, 2009, 12:42am; Reply: 35
Having just finished inputting my own info into the SWAMI software (even though I've had the log-in instructions for months -- long story), I'm now semi-confident that my status is correct. A lot of foods that used to be avoids have migrated into the neutral category (yay!). A few neutrals are now avoids (sniff).
Posted by: Drea, Monday, October 12, 2009, 12:52am; Reply: 36
Quoted from Kumar
Cristina,

Your results provide insights into how sensitive Swami is to personality type. I just completed the test and I am now discovering that my ISTP has changed to something different in the mean time.


That's interesting, because as soon as I read this post, I typed myself into the Swami software and went from a Warrior to a Teacher! I so identify with a Warrior that I'm wondering if my Myers-Briggs results might possibly be off, rather than my Genotype...so very interesting....it's all about our point of reference, isn't it?

Posted by: Drea, Monday, October 12, 2009, 1:07am; Reply: 37
This time I took a test that I found using Google http://www.humanmetrics.com, and I tried to be as truthful as possible -- meaning I answered as quickly as possible without thinking -- and I came up with ENFJ, and that put me squarely back in the Warrior camp. Very, very, interesting.
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 6:57am; Reply: 38
Well, well, I have got the secretor blood tests results and they are:

A Rh(D) Positive  A-B+ M+N+

All that or at least part of it, makes me a Secretor.

(I have been living as a Non Sec for a couple of months ... wrong hunch)!

I have entered these results in SwamiX since I do not think that the saliva tests results I am waiting for will change anything.  My secretor status is confirmed with the Lewis results, very unlikely saliva results will change that.

Now back to the personality types deciding factor:

I have done the personality test from 'similarminds' and I get the ESFJ all the time
Done the one posted here from 'humanmetrics' and I get ENFJ, so I have decided I am an extrovert after all which gives me the same genotype all the time.  It is only when I type as an Introvert that I get Teacher Genotype, and that was when I did the shorter tests.

So, after all that, SwamiX makes me a GT5 - Warrior!!  44% as an ESFJ and 46% as an ENFJ.  So I am going to give the Warrior type a try.  Going back to my first impulsive assessment for a GT, when I measured myself as a Warrior.... :)

PS: if my tendons are not visible, I get 49% warrior!! But I will not go there, I am convinced to try Warrior lifestyle ..
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 7:22am; Reply: 39
Welcome to Warrior-hood Miss Cristina!  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 7:42am; Reply: 40
Hi Jenny, and thanks.  I am quite happy with my food lists:

I lost the red meats, but I have not had them at all while in the teacher diet.

No SF in poultry, Turkey, ostrich and Emu are now neutral: have not eaten them at all either.  Bough Turkey the other night but it is in the freezer untouched.

Fish, long list as Teacher, may be changes there but no problems, ok.

Dairy, lost a few cheeses but only one I have been eating a bit lately: Gouda, the rest I tried them here and there not much anyway.  I still have Parmesan, Romano and Peccolino, and lost Feta to the neutrals where is joining newly addition Riccota.  Kefir joined Yogurt and the soft Paneer, Farmers and Quark are new to my SFs.  Quite happy with all this.

Lost wheat all varieties (makes sense with the white lines), so my bulk supplies will have to be converted into wheat grass which I believe is OK for everyone to have?

Gain Amaranth, Barley, my Quinoa which I have had almost every morning for breaky is still a SF and I cannot remember what else changed here.

The live food group removed my Tomato from SF but kindly kept tomatillo in neutral, so if desperate, I can use that with some red beets to give the look of red tomato sauce.  OK here, lots of vegies to choose.

Fruit, I am very happy with too, all my favourites are there.  Lost mango which is going to be hard with my mango trees showing baby shoots of mango at the moment, given a couple of months they should be right size to eat.  Maybe Mango juice maybe OK, have to check that.

On the subject of juice, although grapes are no, grape juice appeared in SFs and coffee of course is there too.

Spices and condiments, well somewhere there is chocolate!! And I thought I lost it.  Carob of course is there too.

Warrior lifestyle, I have not read it yet. Do that after dinner.

I am happy with the options and for the first time in a while I have a sense of relief that I now know a lot more about myself and how to provide nourishment for best health.   :)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 8:04am; Reply: 41
Quoted Text
A Rh(D) Positive  A-B+ M+N+

A+; L(a-b+); MN
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:44am; Reply: 42
Something else I gained in my food lists is Yerba Mate, as a SF.  This is the traditional drink where I come from and grew up drinking it.  I have not tried that for the last 15 years or so.  Where I am in Australia, you cannot get it.  I think I may have to order it from Sydney or Melbourne.  

Jenny, Jumari is that something you can get in Camberra, Sydney, if you know of any good suppliers let me know.

I believe these days you can get them in tea bags, but we used to drink them in these special gourds with a metal (silver) straw.  I suppose we were getting then a double health boost: the goodness of the Yerba tea and the benefits of silver (I think there is info in the net about silver being good).  I still have both the gourd and metal straw.  It will be nice using them again, walking the ancestral path... :)

And Lola, thanks for the lesson on blood grouping nomenclature, fixed info under shield ... :) :) :)
Posted by: Kumar, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 11:20am; Reply: 43
Wonderful Cristina! My hunch for the last couple of weeks also was tilted towards you being a Warrior, due to the fact that you have carried on so much of weight on your body. My experience shows that Teachers do have lesser problem managing the weight than warriors. So I am sure you must be an extrovert significantly. In personality tests, the dimension (among the four dimensions) that often resists change is the introvert-extrovert dimension. I also sense that this particular dimension is more objectively measured than the other dimensions.

You once mentioned your Swami giving you cow milk as neutral or so? I am still curious on this and want to know whether it is due to some programming bug?
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 12:12pm; Reply: 44
Quoted from Kumar
...

You once mentioned your Swami giving you cow milk as neutral or so? I am still curious on this and want to know whether it is due to some programming bug?


Thanks for your comments regarding my personality traits, tests, Kumar.

The cow milk issue was a bug I was reporting in the Bugs thread.  The 'Meal Planner' program in Swami was picking up foods from the avoid lists.  I noticed today that Dr D posted a reply in the Updates thread, stating that this has now been fixed.  Swami lists were always right, milk has always been an avoid and I knew that.  I remember Dr D then stressing that the foodlists have priority over anything else in Swami, the food lists are the ruling factor.  I hope this answers your question.  Thanks again.   :) :)
Posted by: Kumar, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 12:20pm; Reply: 45
My mind can rest now, Thanks a lot.
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 9:28pm; Reply: 46
I have recently found Yerba Mate in teabags at my HFS in Griffith, ACT. They also have loose 'mate' tea which the owner says is the same. The teabags are rather expensive, the loose reasonably cheap.
Posted by: Chandon, Thursday, October 15, 2009, 2:37am; Reply: 47
Quoted from Drea
This time I took a test that I found using Google http://www.humanmetrics.com, and I tried to be as truthful as possible -- meaning I answered as quickly as possible without thinking -- and I came up with ENFJ, and that put me squarely back in the Warrior camp. Very, very, interesting.


I think that's a good point that you don't think too much about it. It's good to be relaxed and clear minded. When I took the full Myers-Briggs test, I was instructed to skip any question I couldn't answer right away, then go back to them and try again without spending much time. For that test, questions could be skipped altogether if it was difficult to answer them without thinking much.

Posted by: Cristina, Friday, October 16, 2009, 12:49am; Reply: 48
Thanks for your reply on Yerba Mate Jenny.  On Wednesday 21st I have to go to Brissie to pick up my son from the airport, returning from his Las Vegas trip!!

I will be traveling from the north (sunny coast) anyone recommends any good HFS along the way that may source Yerba Mate?
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, October 16, 2009, 1:22am; Reply: 49
Try the great Ironwood Cottage in Sandgate.  It's not far off the M1 and you could enjoy a walk around the lagoon near there too and enjoy the quaint shops, not far from the nice foreshore there too.  http://www.startlocal.com.au/retail/healthfood/qld_brisbane/Ironwood_Cottage_1424799.html

They have wholesale flours (1/2 price compared to supermarket!), dried fruits (including preservative free), baked breads, free-range organic hormone-free meats, free-range fruit and veg.  Biggest range of orgran products I've seen.  
Big range of healthy snacks and lots of things I've never seen before.  Helpful staff too, you could give them a call and find out if they've got Yerba Mate.  I bet they have!
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, October 16, 2009, 1:23am; Reply: 50
There have been a few signs with me lately that are putting me in alert mode.  I think I burnt inside, the top of my mouth, had a small irritation there that made it hard to drink hot drinks or chew food.  Used celtic salt granules (dab inside with my finger) last night before going to bed and today was much better, hardly feel it there.

Something got into the corner of my eye the other day and since I have had this dry skin area, just on the outside corner of the eye.  Rubbed the sap of a cut Aloe Vera leaf and that is much better today.

I was supposed to be at the dentist today to remove my last bit of amalgam, but woke up with a bit of a 'not quite sore but not 100% either' throat and decided not to go.  My DH made me green tea and brought it to bed, I added a bit of Agave syrup to it and enjoy it.

But, did I really?  My gosh, a few minutes after drinking the tea I felt sick, queasy, wanting to get sick but not quite there.  So, I quickly prepared breaky and after eating it I felt much better.

So, I checked what I have been eating the past few days and honey and dried dates figured high in the scheduled.  Honey in breakfast, snacks, tea, coffee.  Munching on dates and walnuts, after 6pm and exercise routine fig fat zero.

This morning as I was having breakfast, i reach for the Mapple syrup to garnish it, instead of usual honey.  SwamiX has placed honey in the Black Dots and Mapple Syrup as SF and my intuition today goes with it.  Not blame honey, but my overindulgance of it!!!
Or was it the fact that I have been eating some avoids according to the new Swami: Blueberries most days for breakfast (now avoids) and Gouda cheese quite a bit for lunch and on dinner dishes.
The other thing I noticed is that the ingredients of the dried dates I have been eating include not only 100% dates, but also vegetable oil!! Who knows what kind: hidden avoid here?
And the wheats SFs before avoids now. I had the occasional pasta, pie and pizza dish, including the odd tomatoes (also avoids now).

Have I stirred the natural levels of candina in the system?  Everything else seems normal, except my weight has this week plateau at 87kg.

In conclusion I will be very watchful of what I eat in the future and strictly stick to the Warrior diet. I do not want this to develop into anything but best health.  :o :)
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 16, 2009, 1:45am; Reply: 51
we all need to go easy on the sugar reaching a certain age, you know..... ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, October 16, 2009, 1:47am; Reply: 52
So, my warrior compliant breakfast today was:

Wake up: Green tea (D), agave (N) , water (D)
Quinoa (SF) flakes (boiled in a 2 part water with a bit of Celtic salt (SF)), served over some dried Goji(SF) berries and frozen Blackberries (D), dab with plain yogurt(SF), sprinkled with Chia seeds (N), pumpkin seeds(D), sesame seeds (N), Brewers yeast (N) and topping it all with a bit of Maple syrup(D).

It felt great!!

A couple of hours later I had Coffe (D) sprinkled with organic chocolate (SF) and a tiny bit of Agave (N)  Syrup.

My Lunch:

Slice of Flaxseed bread (D) with peccorino cheese (D)

Summary for day:

Ratings:
Diamonds: 8
Superfoods: 5
Neutrals: 5

Food Groups:
Dairy: Yogurt
Veg Protein: Pumpkin seeds, Chia seeds, Sesame seeds
Carbohydrates: Quinoa
Fruits: Blackberries, Goji
Spices: Chocolate
Beverages: Water, Green Tea, Coffee
Condiments: Maple syrup, Celtic salt, Brewers yeast, Agave syrup x2

Constructive criticism:


:) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, October 16, 2009, 1:50am; Reply: 53
My Swami has has Nutritional Yeast as SF and Bakers yeast as Neutral.  I have a packet of british Brewers Yeast which is what I used for my breakfast above.  What rating shall I give this?   :)
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, October 16, 2009, 1:53am; Reply: 54
Been alot of dust around, we all have allergy like symptoms and sore throats here too
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 16, 2009, 1:58am; Reply: 55
I only get brewer s down here powdered .....
think baker s is synonymous of brewer s, cause I wouldn t think of supplementing with yeast used for making bread!! lol
no one has heard of nutritional, down here, unfortunately.
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, October 16, 2009, 2:17am; Reply: 56
Regarding Brewers Yeast:

On reading the ingredients:
quote
Dried yeast with added thiamin (b1) and riboflavin (B2). ....Classed as a nutritional, non-baking yeast.
unquote

So, is it subtitution for Nutritional yeast here?  The brand is Soland (packed in Australia) and bought it at a HFS.  They did not seem to know about nutritional yeast per say.
??) :) :)
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 16, 2009, 2:40am; Reply: 57
as I previously mentioned, swami has both ratings
Yeast, Bakers
Yeast, Nutritional

I consider the first to be the equivalent of brewer s.

so to answer your question, no, brewer s is not to be considered nutritional,
it is less sweet than nutritional.

nutritional grows on sweet tubers like beets.
there are many sites explaining the differences.
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, October 16, 2009, 4:22am; Reply: 58
Quoted from Symbi
Try the great Ironwood Cottage in Sandgate.  It's not far off the M1 and you could enjoy a walk around the lagoon near there too and enjoy the quaint shops, not far from the nice foreshore there too.  http://www.startlocal.com.au/retail/healthfood/qld_brisbane/Ironwood_Cottage_1424799.html

They have wholesale flours (1/2 price compared to supermarket!), dried fruits (including preservative free), baked breads, free-range organic hormone-free meats, free-range fruit and veg.  Biggest range of orgran products I've seen.  
Big range of healthy snacks and lots of things I've never seen before.  Helpful staff too, you could give them a call and find out if they've got Yerba Mate.  I bet they have!


Hope you saw my previous post!
Posted by: Jumari, Friday, October 16, 2009, 8:07am; Reply: 59
I found some Yerba Mate today at a place called About Life. And over priced organic shop here in Balmain, NSW. Its incredibel how the word organic just ups the price instantly. Do you have the About life franchise over there?
Posted by: shells, Friday, October 16, 2009, 8:23am; Reply: 60
Hi Christina,

Before going off hunting for Yerba Mate give a couple of Woolworths a ring to see if any are in stock.  I have found packets of 25 teabags made by 'Lotus Peak' packaged in W.A. (www.lotuspeak.com.au) just here in my local supermarket!

Was so excited to see them by accident only to find out that they are only neutral for me.  These were found in the tea section of the supermarket but you may want to check in the health section (store variation).  Lotus Peak also make a gentle white tea which I have had in the past and the Yerba Mate was alongside this tea.  

Good luck   :D
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, October 19, 2009, 8:34pm; Reply: 61
There has been a slight change of plan and my son gets here on Friday instead of tomorrow Wednesday.  Thanks for the tip Shells, I 'll check local woolies for it.

I am pretty happy today.  The scales started moving again and today I weight 86.0, a whole new Kg down!

I had a couple of days last week where I was not feeling too good (those nasty dust storms here could have been responsible), but it did not develop into anything.  The only supplement I used was a couple of Proberries a couple of days and the protein blend when I was not feeling up to even cook breaky or lunch.  What a savior with a few fruit pieces and allowed juices in a smoothie.  Pick me up delicious!!

Also, the change of GT means my Teacher supps, which I just bought, are stuck in the pantry ... Not ordering the warrior stuff yet until a few more days on this path.

I made fresh soy milk (SF) this week and have been using it in my coffee.  I have beautiful Okara from the process, which I am planning to use in some patties today.   Great stuff to increase use of Veg proteins.

1 cup of vegies 5 times a day says my Swami, and I have been trying hard to comply which may explain how those nasty symptoms earlier were kept in check.  Lots of antioxidants and good organic stuff most from my garden to fight them off.

Ah, also, I received an e-mail from a local supplier of american PawPaw plants which he grows in his nursery.  So we (DH and I) are planning to pay the nursery a visit and come home with some plants.  I do have areas of bush undergrowth in my land, as suggested by C_Sharp, so I should be able to find them a suitable snugly spot to grow them.  If not, the Tea Tree forest across the road looks good too ... :) :) Joking!, would not dare to introduce exotics there, love that forest too much!

:) :)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, October 19, 2009, 11:51pm; Reply: 62
Hey, sounds like your green thumb is great for your tummy.  Paw paw !  Fantastic.  I found info on growing it and will post it on the aussie thread when finished researching.  Clever you making soy milk.  Congrats on the weight loss!

We're so glad the dust has gone away too all had sore throats here and sinus problems.
  
About HFS, I went into a Mrs Flannerys store (gourmet type chain health food store in Brisbane) yesterday and got out as quick as I could.  I couldn't believe how expensive everything was, (dissappointed) later went to the Chemist Warehouse and got a Calcium vitamin for $11 that was $20 in Flannery's!  ;) Even the wholesale flours were $2 a kg more than the Ironwood Cottage.  It scared me to see how exclusive and trendy it was in there, health food is a big business.  Saw alot of processed food in fancy packaging and very little actual fruit and veg in there.

I'll be sticking with basic food for a while on our very basic budget, though the Ironwood Cottage will get some visits from me, even though it's a few suburbs away!

BTW about supplements, I saw Jumari on here offering to sell his Warrior supplements at a discounted rate somewhere.  You should PM him!
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, October 20, 2009, 12:03am; Reply: 63
Thanks GW, and yes, HFS is a big business, that is why I do not take those trips to the HFS that often and make the effort of trying to source things in bulk (ie organic soybeans ) and make or grow things myself.  But it is not always possible ... $$$$.

It is my DD's 25th this weekend, and I am ordering a SWAMIX for her gift.  She had some of my proberries this morning, looks a bit flueish.  I adviced her to stay away from dairy and wheat for a few days at least.  She is an A, so hopefully that is a good advice.

Also, I am not sure how much use of SwamiX she will have to start with, but I showed it to her this morning and she understands it will be good for her to have.  She sees how much progress I am making and healthy looking all the time.  She reckons I have good genes and I have given her good genes too, but, I said, you still got to look after them if you want them to keep on working for you.  She is a very fit young girl, very active, runs RPM classes at the local gym, and body attack too I think.  She could be Teacher or Warrior, got to take her measurements ... :) :) :)  
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 2, 2009, 12:51am; Reply: 64
In answer to a relevant PM:

In the not too distant past (maybe 3 months ago now), I had great difficulty to go to sleep.  Now I know that what was really keeping me awake was what I was eating: all the wheat (got white lines, so nononono wheat), sugar foods (ice cream, lots of sugar in tea, cakes, biscuits - could not help it, craving terrible ...), tomatoes galore, chilli, nightshades, not so many vegies, too much wrong fruit (never thought there could be such thing as too much fruit, but too much fructose can be as bad as wheat for the specif person like me) and generally eating wrong for my type.

I had a duodenal ulcer very early in life (there is that gut thing again), and I had periods in my life when, looking back, without knowing about BTD, I was naturally eating right for me.  That helped me enough to keep me in a sort of healthy state, but my weight kept on creeping on and on and on and other symptoms started appearing, that annoying continuous need of getting rid of that mucus down my throat and then just before I joined this forum,  deficiency in B12 and iron were spotted in my blood.  This started to awaken feelings of fear that something was really wrong with me.

So, that is how I came to this forum and this way of life. I have had an amazing response from just eating the right foods (and in a very short time), including yogurt and right cheeses in my diet to fix gut. Those mucus symptoms are now a thing of the past, including the many other 'little' things that kept on creeping up and we take to accept them as part of living, old age, or unlucky genes ...(naughty), together with the lack of sleep (as I posted in another thread discussion today), they are all part of my past.  All of this by mostly eating the right food stuff.

I have not started yet to take supplements in a regular basis, because of Genotype tweaking: I was Teacher and now I am Warrior, I do not have the warrior ones yet, but I have ordered them (have to check post office today), and I plan to use them as needed.

I am now a firm believer that if you give your body what it needs in the form of proper food and lifestyle then the body will respond back by giving us that amazing feeling that comes from living in a healthy state, to your full potential.  I may not have reached that 100 % state yet, but hey, I am sure way down the right path. I keep on sharing my experiences and asking question for whatever I do not get, no shame on that, the end prize is worth it.   :)   :) :)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:16am; Reply: 65
We're all aiming for that state of health and we're here to help each other along.  I've still got mucus in my throat at the moment and put it down to wheat, since I've added that back into my diet because of the colonoscopy coming up and wanting any problem with wheat to show up.  Can't wait to get that over and done with (been waiting 6 months!)

Did you check with Jumari - he might want to sell some Teacher Supplements he had (I posted that on this thread before somewhere)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:26am; Reply: 66
Quoted from Symbi

Did you check with Jumari - he might want to sell some Teacher Supplements he had (I posted that on this thread before somewhere)


Well, I was waiting for Jumari to show up to talk to him, have not seen him around for a while.  But things worked out in a funny way (as I hint the other day), and even without ordering them, the Warrior supps are turning at my address today, due to some missed up in deliveries.  There is a reason for everything, and although they were not meant for me initially by the sender, some higher power brought them to me!!  Of course I am paying for this order I did not order, mind you with a 10% discount for accepting it, but suits my type, obviously, It seems like Swami moves in strange ways and have higher links with the universe ... How could I not accept that!!!  :)
Posted by: Lola, Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:31am; Reply: 67
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Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:40am; Reply: 68
Thanks Lola, I am not sure if available in Australia. Will check with Gina, although, thinking about it, I think they might all be at the Sydney Mind festival.  That is where Jenny and Jumari and others might be now, or be ready to go there soon.  Jenny posted something about it somewhere, and Gina sent me an invite to it, but unfortunately I can not make it.  I need to check those posts and e-mail.
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 2, 2009, 1:51am; Reply: 69
Mind Body and Spirit Festivals in Sydney from Thursday 5th November through to Sunday 8th November and Melbourne from Friday 20th November to Sunday 22nd November.
Please refer to http://www.mbsfestival.com.au for full details.

Our Distributor Gina will be there too.
Posted by: Jenny, Monday, November 2, 2009, 5:04am; Reply: 70
Actually I am at home, but slightly off the air as I am trying to focus on other things rather than a four hour trip each way into the Sydney traffic (ugh). Also not on the board much due to changes in my computer set up, trying to limit internet use. Using all those extra hours to practice the fiddle, wait for my second grandson to arrive, prepare for a birthday party next weekend  and plan a little romantic get away soon. But be sure, I will be checking in to all your wonderful research and progress from time to time. ;D
Posted by: Possum, Monday, November 2, 2009, 5:08am; Reply: 71
Hi Jenny!! Was wondering what you were up to??!! Had planned to email you to say hi!!! ;) All the best with your new grandson, birthday party & romantic get away!!
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 2, 2009, 5:53am; Reply: 72
Quoted from Possum
Hi Jenny!! ... All the best with your new grandson, birthday party & romantic get away!!


Ditto Jenny, have lots of fun!!  :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 12:54am; Reply: 73
Well, my Warrior supps arrived yesterday afternoon.  I started taken them in this morning: The Warrior 3 pack and the Multivitamins!

Also, today I started serious excercising in the Gym.  Went for gym fitness scan about 2 weeks ago, but since then could not make it.  There is again that blood type A excuse for not exercising seriously, like getting a good sweaty workout. Thanks DD for getting me such good deal $$$ on it.

I have been feeling fantastic, I seem to be eating heaps of food, the 5 cups a day vegie thing is the driver...  But my weight is still stuck on 86kg.  Weigh myself this morning.  I think that now with the supps and the extra workouts, things will be moving on a bit faster.  

I am not in a hurry, I did not get here overnight (I know I am repeating myself here), but I am feeling healthy, happy, active, alert, generous, assertive, look glowing, feel flexible, in other words the good genes are working well.  The extra activity and nutritional push from the supps, will assist in creating more muscle and pushing the fat load away.

No, I have not ordered the weigh loss pack, it was a toss between the Warrior supps and that, and then the Warrior supps turned up ... ;) :)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 5:33am; Reply: 74
keep it up! :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, November 4, 2009, 1:34pm; Reply: 75
I like to visualize things to keep me on track and lately I have been feeling inspired and spurred on by the following thoughts.

I imagine my lists of beneficial food as being like a giant master puzzle of the optimum healthy representation of my body that Dr D has gelled together for me, with the pieces in the puzzle being each of the food items and lifestyle recommendations that I need to include in my daily life to reach that healthy state myself.  The aim is to reproduce that masterpiece each and everyday of my life, building my own puzzle, by placing food items in my daily menus of the right type, in the right quantity, and in the right location as well as applying each lifestyle recommendation from the masterpiece.  Eating food items that are not on the lists, or in the wrong quantities, or not following any of the lifestyle recommendations for my type,  will be like trying to place a distorted piece into the puzzle, no matter how much you try to make it fit, if it does not belong there it will not work and you end up with a weird, looking picture, which normally will be funny, except that our health is not laughing matter.  So, I talk myself into keeping working on those daily puzzles until they are cemented in my life in such a way that I become the personification of the masterpiece Dr D is showing me today.  :) :)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, November 5, 2009, 1:07am; Reply: 76
:)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, November 5, 2009, 6:07am; Reply: 77
Great summary!! All the best in your puzzling... ;) Btw how tall are you; just for interest ??)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, November 5, 2009, 6:31am; Reply: 78
1.56, still packing it a bit, got another 20kg to lose, to get me to the first stage of my goal. I always felt better around the 58-62 kg range.  I know some charts according to my height required me to be below 55, but I have been there and I looked terrible, felt awful and vulnerable.  The upper end of 50s is my ideal, but at this stage of my life, I will be thrilled when I get it to the sixties.

Meal planning and cooking within the guidelines is becoming easier and easier.  Today for lunch I cooked a big barramandi fillet, I just had a little portion that could fit in the palm of my hand and hubby and son had the rest.  It was so yummy and tasty.  That with brown rice with lots of onion, garlic, carrot and zuccini.  Yum, Yum.  
I am sipping a cup of Nettle and green tea while typing this.  Thanks for asking. ..   :)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, November 5, 2009, 7:00am; Reply: 79
Quoted from Cristina
at this stage of my life, I will be thrilled when I get it to the sixties. You realise you are closer than you think ;) - being 58 ;)
1.56 - I am struggling ot get my brain to compute that into feet...??!! ??)
Meal planning and cooking within the guidelines is becoming easier and easier.  Today for lunch I cooked a big barramandi fillet, I just had a little portion that could fit in the palm of my hand and hubby and son had the rest.  It was so yummy and tasty.  That with brown rice with lots of onion, garlic, carrot and zuccini.  Yum, Yum.  
I am sipping a cup of Nettle and green tea while typing this.  Thanks for asking. ..   :)
That lunch sounds wonderful... well done!! Was thinking about you, earlier... as I pondered over whether to buy the sole that was on special in the supermarket tonight...But decided to wait and be sure...after my experience this time last week with my fish with lemon pepper ::) :o Besides, my husband said sole tastes like old boots :D ;D!!!

Posted by: Symbi, Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:40am; Reply: 80
It's not Sole food hey Possum!  he he  :) :) Yep, pays to have great fish, sounds yummy Cristina.

I like to bake my fish in Aluminium foil ( I know that could be bad but don't think it leaches into food  ??) and it at least keeps all the fish oils in) with garlic, mozzarella cheese, butter or olive spread or ghee, herbs, and lemon juice.   :K)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:12am; Reply: 81
Great hints GW, I normally would have used foil, but this fish has been frozen for a month, so I was worry it will go all watery (like boiled) on us.  So, I rubbed sea celtic salt and olive oil, put it in a baking tray in a 350 oven and hoped for the best!  Kept a close eye on it, opening oven a few times to make sure it was not drying out too much. I think it took 15 minutes?  I do not know, was not checking the time, just waiting for it to be ready to eat.

I learnt something though, frozen barra does not lose its taste at all, if it does, I am glad I did freeze it, otherwise the taste would have blown me away and I would still be wondering around the house with glazy eyes, and muttering incomprehensive things like ate moya, car ica, tri bola, ... and that would have not only kept me away from this forum, but got me in trouble at home ...  :-/ :o :) ;) ;D ;D
Posted by: Golfzilla, Friday, November 6, 2009, 6:52pm; Reply: 82
Lola & Cristina, I have been reading this string and your genuine and sincere appreciation of "the Dr D Programs" is quite inspiring. Really makes me feel like I am making good choices with it :)

Also picked up on the mucus issue you (Cristina)  mentioned in your throat. It has about worn me out. By the end of the day my throat is so sore from clearing my throat. This could be from wheat right? Just gave it up and hoping to see adifference soon :)
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Friday, November 6, 2009, 6:55pm; Reply: 83
Collonsonia will help with the mucous too!
Posted by: Golfzilla, Friday, November 6, 2009, 7:04pm; Reply: 84
Ordered it this morning - thanks!
Posted by: Lola, Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:58pm; Reply: 85
most avoids may cause this discomfort....
dairy is another one for instance..
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:38pm; Reply: 86
Golfzilla   :B thanks.

Regarding the mucus, I had also picked up that grabbing a few too many dates (which I love) is sure to trigger that throat clearing need.  The dates itself are a bene, but the only dry ones I have access to, come packed with vegetable oils,    :(  sure to be avoids ...  Pity, but, no thanks ...   :)
Posted by: Possum, Friday, November 6, 2009, 11:48pm; Reply: 87
Quoted from Cristina
I learnt something though, frozen barra does not lose its taste at all, if it does, I am glad I did freeze it, otherwise the taste would have blown me away and I would still be wondering around the house with glazy eyes, and muttering incomprehensive things like ate moya, car ica, tri bola, ... and that would have not only kept me away from this forum, but got me in trouble at home ...  :-/ :o :) ;) ;D ;D
I am intrigued/amused::) ??) Please...is it possible to explain or is it too private ??) ;D

GW Your fish recipe sounds wonderful too!! Now that one is sole food!!! ;)
Never been too sure on re the aluminium foil issue myself... from all the warnings/conflicting info I've read...Would be an interesting discussion??!!
If you can trust Wiki..."Aluminum is the third most abundant element in the earth's crust after oxygen and silicon, making up about 8% of the surface. It finds its way into the air and water and is taken up by plants from the soil. With that much of the element on earth, if it were toxic to living creatures, there would not be many around.
Acidic or highly salty foods tend to leach more aluminum out than other foods...
There are a few risks associated with aluminum. Excessive amounts in children with kidney disease can affect bone strength. Large amounts - in excess of what is possible to ingest in a normal person's diet - affect fetal brain and skeletal development. Also, people can develop skin sensitivity to aluminum chlorhydrate in deodorants."
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 12:12am; Reply: 88
Quoted from Possum
I am intrigued/amused::) ??) Please...is it possible to explain or is it too private ??) ;D



Posumm!!  Not like you not to get the pun!  I meant that the fish would have been so delicious if I just cooked it fresh that it would have sent me into a state of bliss and the muttering of words is from all the recent research I have been doing with relevant words still twirling in my mind: atemoya (our custard apple), carica papaya (our papaya), annona tribola (US PawPaw). The trouble at home is that when I start muttering those words they all seem to shake their heads: there she goes again with that forum thing ... :)  All good fun ...  

With the punning question, it makes me think that I still got to learn a lot from the master punning friend from NZ.   ;D
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 1:14am; Reply: 89
Cristina, ha ha! sounds like some incantations maybe from Harry Potter!  Glad you're enjoying your tucker, this is not like any other deprivation diet thank goodness.  Never felt like I'm on a starvation diet on the BTD/GTD only a get healthier diet!  :)

You must have defrosted your fish before you cooked it?  I always get frozen fish (that's what budget allows at the moment really).  Heard from fisherman that they are all frozen on the boat straight after catching anyway, so fresh fish in a fish shop is a misnomer.  Our local fish and chip shop catches some themselves though.  If it's frozen too long it can get freezer burn (crystals forming) so I watch out for that.

When I defrost it myself then I can trust that it's safe to eat.  My Mum bought some fish from a supermarket deli once and got food poisoning from it (in Darwin (semi-tropical north of Australia) mind you).  

Golfzilla - know exactly what you mean, it's very annoying, ahem (clear throat).  
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 1:53am; Reply: 90
GW, nope, I did not defrost it, went straight from the freezer to the oven, (after rubbing the oil and salt).  Broke all my conventional traditions with that one.  To start with, I did not think it was going to work.  But my goodness!! It did work, finger licking work!  And to think of it I had the oven quite high to start with (in a hurry to get it on the table to waiting family).  When I said I was keeping an eye on it, I was also doing some intervention.  I took it out once or twice to remove the thinner bits of meat that were cooking (did not want them paper dry and kept the hungry mob waiting with fork and knife happy).  Also, at some stage I cut it in half (across not lengthwise), because of the thick mid drift, too thick, too long to cook, and left the one half in the oven while I pat and toss the other half on a very hot cast iron pan.  We ate the pot one first while the one in the oven was finishing off cooking slowly.  By the time we finished the first half, the second one was ready.  I guess it was a case of play it as you go and the experiment worked.  

Obviously barra must be naturally good to produce something so nice even after this rough treatment and a month old in the freezer.  Bought it at local woolies, where they seem to get good fish lately.   :)
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 3:07am; Reply: 91
Quoted from Cristina
Posumm!!  Not like you not to get the pun! Quite true... :B I think its to do with me failing to give your findings the attention they deserve - I am (just) surviving all the new things to learn at work at the mo, by taking it in, on a needs to know basis... & my brain has shut down temporarily on things I think I can afford to focus on at a later date.. however it caught up with me when I didn't know whether sole was a good purchase the other evening...:B
I meant that the fish would have been so delicious if I just cooked it fresh that it would have sent me into a state of bliss and the muttering of words is from all the recent research I have been doing with relevant words still twirling in my mind: atemoya (our custard apple), carica papaya (our papaya), annona tribola (US PawPaw). The trouble at home is that when I start muttering those words they all seem to shake their heads: there she goes again with that forum thing ... :)  All good fun ... Indeed!!!
With the punning question, it makes me think that I still got to learn a lot from the master punning friend from NZ.   ;D
Not sure about that...I think you're great as you are...
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 4:08am; Reply: 92
Guessing the ice in the fish melting into water kept it moist while it was cooking and defrosting at the same time.  That may be a whole new way of cooking using the iceblock method.  Great stuff.
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, November 7, 2009, 4:28am; Reply: 93
Quoted from Possum
I am intrigued/amused::) ??) Please...is it possible to explain or is it too private ??) ;D

GW Your fish recipe sounds wonderful too!! Now that one is sole food!!! ;)
Never been too sure on re the aluminium foil issue myself... from all the warnings/conflicting info I've read...Would be an interesting discussion??!!
If you can trust Wiki..."Aluminum is the third most abundant element in the earth's crust after oxygen and silicon, making up about 8% of the surface. It finds its way into the air and water and is taken up by plants from the soil. With that much of the element on earth, if it were toxic to living creatures, there would not be many around.
Acidic or highly salty foods tend to leach more aluminum out than other foods... That's a worry since I like putting lemon in my fish! like the way you say we're still here and there's lots of it around!
There are a few risks associated with aluminum. Excessive amounts in children with kidney disease can affect bone strength. Large amounts - in excess of what is possible to ingest in a normal person's diet - affect fetal brain and skeletal development. Also, people can develop skin sensitivity to aluminum chlorhydrate in deodorants."


Thanks for the info small, cute furry animal! I get swollen lymph nodes in the neck from normal deodorant so I go for aluminium free tea tree type now.  We used to have aluminium pots and I've worried about that.  I heard it's linked with alzheimers.  Yicky.
I think there was a thread on it before on here.  Searching and found some people saying canned foods are a source, it causes Autism, it's in some cream of tartar, baking powders, immunisations.
Found this in the Blood Type Diet FAQ at http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi?subject=988813483
Quoted Text
"Avoid aluminum cookery (it can contaminate your food with aluminum) and microwaves (they change the molecular structure of foods in unknown ways) for heating foods."


Yep, there's a lot to know and it can get a little overstimulating at times.  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, November 8, 2009, 12:29pm; Reply: 94
Cristina's two month reflections:

September and October (and these few days in November) were the months where there have been moments of celebration (my DD's 25th), moments of a mixture of pain and feeling of relief (dentist amalgam removal), lots of learning and joy and networking in the forum, scary moments (DH bee thing and DGD accident) and life in general.  I am here and determined to reach my goals. :)

After secretor tests and in depth look at personalities ... I joined the Swami Warriorhood on the 15th Oct dragging a 2 week plateau of 87kg.

Four days on the Warrior lifestyle, still low activity levels though, but I saw the scales moving again down to 86kg where they stayed for the next 20days til today.

Nov 4, the warrior supps arrived, started taking them.  Weight still plateaued at 86.

Five days later which included some supps  and two heavy sessions of gym, transformed the plateau into a 1.5kg loss.  Now on 84.6Kg.

Except when we had the dust storms here that caused me a bit of discomfort for a couple of days, I have been feeling fantastic during this Swami ride: satisfied, rested, alert.

REality checks:
Got to improve my exercise and supps taking routines. Do not make enough time for the heavy sweaty physical activity and keep on forgetting to take the supps (end up doing both, but at different times all the time). :-/   :) :)
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Sunday, November 8, 2009, 1:02pm; Reply: 95
Quoted from Cristina

When choosing secretor status I get a 45% (Good Association) with the GT3 Teacher Genotype.

When I choose non-secretor I get 41% (again good association) with the GT3 Teacher Genotype.


Isn't this exciting? I loved getting GenoTyped!  :)  Refresh my memory, why are you following the Warrior diet?
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, November 8, 2009, 10:49pm; Reply: 96
Quoted from Symbi


Thanks for the info small, cute furry animal! Cheers I like this... ;) although if you've ever riled/cornered one of us...you may alter your review  ::) ;D
I get swollen lymph nodes in the neck from normal deodorant so I go for aluminium free tea tree type now.  We used to have aluminium pots and I've worried about that.  I heard it's linked with alzheimers.  Yicky. Doesn't seem to be any conclusive reports on this... :-/ I've also heard other info  :-/ But again, its prob'ly an individual thing :-/
I think there was a thread on it before on here.  Searching and found some people saying canned foods are a source, it causes Autism, it's in some cream of tartar, baking powders, immunisations.
Found this in the Blood Type Diet FAQ at http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi?subject=988813483 Excellent!!! great reminders - Am gonna file it!! Thanks
Yep, there's a lot to know and it can get a little overstimulating at times.  :) Indeed!!!


Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, November 8, 2009, 11:17pm; Reply: 97
Hi MF, it has been an evolving thing of finding more about myself with tests results, personality, family history.  I input this data into Swami and let it compute the best for me.  I was a bit surprise to start with, but it goes with my intuition.  I have been very open about what is been happening in this journey.  You will find more explanations in posts 31 and 38 (page 2, or pg1 and 2).  

Actually, I have to check my Swami again, but by now with all these refinements, Swami is making me 51 or 52% warrior.  I am adaptable and these are just labels, but the food lists are working great for me at the moment.
Checked it and it is 52% strong association.  Have a look at these values (moderators, hope it is OK to post this here).

Calculator Points:

    * Torso to Leg Ratio /Characteristic of Warrior.
          o Your lower leg is longer than your upper leg.
    * Your ABO blood type (A) is characteristic of Warrior.
    * Rh positive blood type is often observed in Warrior GenoType.
    * Secretor status is often observed in Warrior GenoType.

Strength Testing, First Pass

    * Caffeine insensitive /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * Gynic upper leg space in women /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * Mesomorphic or meso-endomorphic somatotype /Characteristic of Warrior.

Strength Testing, Second Pass

    * Characteristic MN subgroup (MN) /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * Ethnicity strength points /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * Lactose tolerance /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * MBI EI(E) Attitude suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * MBI JP(P) Function suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * MBI SN(N) Function suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * MBI TF(T) Function suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Warrior.
    * Parameter suggestive of GenoType (High Risk WHR) /Characteristic of Warrior.

PS: the 51% happens when I change MBI JP(J) where is where I sit most ( think, although these TJPNFS markers go past my attention ... )  Swami uses them, so I put them there.  Either way makes me a warior.  The biggy one for me was the EI, that could change labels (Teacher/Warrior), but most now see me as extrovert.  Maybe I was always extrovert that deteriorating lifestyles (from BTD point of view), made introvert, but the gene resetting process has made me revert back to extrovert.  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:20am; Reply: 98
Congrulations on the weight loss.  Keep up the good work!
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:23am; Reply: 99
Quoted from Cristina
Hi MF, it has been an evolving thing of finding more about myself with tests results, personality, family history.  I input this data into Swami and let it compute the best for me.


Oooh. I must have missed that. :)   I knew there must have been something I missed. So are you tall?  I'm 5'7"...Andrea is about 5'4" I think. Warriors are supposed to be tall. I don't know what happened to Andrea though with her height..lol.  I guess it doesn't apply to all Warriors.  :)

Posted by: Possum, Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:28am; Reply: 100
Hmmm not all warriors are tall by the look of it??!! :-/ Cristina you aren't tall are you ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 9, 2009, 4:20am; Reply: 101
I am 1.56m  (we are metric).  So, not all Warriors are tall, I supposed.  You are implying Andrea is also not Warrior tall?  Well, we come in all shapes and sizes, and besides, we are Swami warriors, each with our own uniqueness.  The height could be very valuable from a GTD point of view if you were fine tuning there, although in its own, it is not considered, but as a ratio against legs, torso, you know, why Iam I telling you this when you know it better than me?  Stop me!!  I guess, nice refresher for the newies.  :) ;)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, November 9, 2009, 5:03am; Reply: 102
1.56 meters is 5 foot 1.5 inches tall
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, November 9, 2009, 5:55am; Reply: 103
Still I wouldn't want to mess with ya!  ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 9, 2009, 6:15am; Reply: 104
No worries, GW, we can pack a good punch to anything trying to interfere with our gene resetting, but, like Jenny's avatar depicts, we are otherwise all peace loving warriors.   ;) :)
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Monday, November 9, 2009, 3:51pm; Reply: 105
Quoted from C_Sharp
1.56 meters is 5 foot 1.5 inches tall


Whoa. That's not tall. I need to ask Dr. D about that.  He never mentioned how important height is to GenoTyping a Warrior.  He told me the give away other than my blood is the long head..see our long heads? Also check Andrea's picture..in the album...Christina, you don't look like a long headed person but the shot isn't a straight on pose. Do you have one that's not straight on for my studies?
Thanks! :) I also just remembered that Sharon doesn't have a long head either but she's an AB. Fascinating stuff..
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 9, 2009, 9:20pm; Reply: 106
Yes, it is not easy to try to outguess Swami ...  Lots of little variables and things playing in there ... just when we thought we had figured it out!!   :) ;) :)

OK, you got me there, it is a moments like this when I realize that I have not been here that long and I still got places to uncover and a lot more study to do in this 'roadmap'.  Where is that album you are talking about? ??)  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:51am; Reply: 107
Well, I thought I mention this, my visitor from Vegas is O negative and we did the measurements today and it all came down to the secretor status: secretor she is a gatherer, non secretor, she is a explorer.

BTW I am not starting this on a different thread, so she can start her own herself if ever ready.

Anyhow, we then went through the traits in the book and almost no points for gatherer, but heaps of traits on the explorer.  On checking the explorers food lists, she identified with a lot of the avoids there as being things she knows cannot tolerate: almonds, oranges, coconut oil, coffee. Now that is a biggie, my son loves coffee and this morning they had some at a cafe and as soon as she drank her coffee she started trembling, like shaking ...  That was very early in the morning,  they were having breaky at the beach.  Mid morning we were doing the genotyping and when she saw the coffee in the avoids, it all made sense to her.  I think I may have pick up a convert in here, and she may be a nonnie . ...  ;) ;)  :)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 5:57am; Reply: 108
she ll be wanting to test as soon as she gets back! :)
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 8:35pm; Reply: 109
Quoted from Cristina
Where is that album you are talking about? ??)  :)


Oh. Sorry. I thought you knew. It's in Little Fishes, and at the top in the Stickies.  All or most of the members have pictures in there.

Also check in the same Little Fishes forum, "Some Shots from the IFHI Conference" (another sticky) I took the first group of shots and I have Andrea in them. You'll find her easier  in there.
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 11:44pm; Reply: 110
Ah thanks... So much to learn and discover ...   ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, November 15, 2009, 5:28am; Reply: 111
I suppose anyone can just go and post photos there, so I will try later tonight.  I have a couple of urgent things to finish first.

Returning to the subject of Warrior Swami lifestyle, I just want to record my experience with the 3 pack supps and multivitamins caps.

Soon after I got them I started the recommended dosage for the trio, 1 x morning for each (including multi) and one evening.  My spacing was a bit skewed there a couple of days, maybe that had something to do with it, that or some hidden avoid I consumed somehow (I am very compliant though!! sneaky things)!.  The thing is that I started to feel not so good, queezy.  That was on the second day of having them I think, not funny to feel like that.  

I always drink a lot of water, but I sort of got this feeling that I should increase my water intake to help wash away this queazy feeling. I started drinking lots of water, I think I drank my whole water bottle in one go!!  Like I was into a water extermination mission.  >:( Maybe I was a bit dehydrated, we had a few humid (no much rain though) hot windy days here! (sunny)  Anyway, it did go away after that.  So, just in case it was the supps, (my body not used to having pills), I decided to walk steady with them and introduce them slowly to my diet.  So I am on 1 cap, once a day for the tri-pack every other day with the multis the off day (also only once a day).  Seems to be working OK, no quezy feelings again.

I keep this for a week, until I get to recommened doses.  Work with my body, seems to be working.  

I have been studying my swami report in more detail and I am feeling happier and happier that Warrior is what I am.  Seems to describe me pretty well.  Also, personality wise, INFP is where I am at the moment, it describes pretty well what I have been doing here (forum wise). :) :)
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, November 15, 2009, 5:41am; Reply: 112
Quoted from 815
Christina, you don't look like a long headed person but the shot isn't a straight on pose. Do you have one that's not straight on for my studies?
Thanks! :) I also just remembered that Sharon doesn't have a long head either but she's an AB. Fascinating stuff..
Fascinating... I would've said with this new shot that Cristina has a long head/face??!! ??) :-/



Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, November 15, 2009, 6:09am; Reply: 113
Posum, i think MF's comment was before I posted this more head on picture.  So, I think I am long faced, or oval, not squared, except when I carry over 30kg.  Remember too, even in this shot I am still over 20kgs over what experts think right for my height.   :-/  Less according to my goals  :)
Posted by: Chandon, Sunday, November 15, 2009, 3:35pm; Reply: 114
Quoted from Cristina
  Also, personality wise, INFP is where I am at the moment, it describes pretty well what I have been doing here (forum wise). :) :)


I think you mean ENFP, right? Weren't you saying that the E puts you in the warrior category? Yes, your activity on the board appears extroverted. I think the key, though, is whether you feel energized by people or drained--something that would be most apparent in how you deal with people in person, or really how you feel after being with people in person. I know an extrovert who loves having parties/gatherings. That is not me at all. I am an INFP. Having so many parties would create stress and anxiety for me. I do need social interaction though! I really need days where my husband goes off and does something with his own friends and I have time to myself.



Posted by: Chandon, Sunday, November 15, 2009, 3:37pm; Reply: 115
Yes, I have to agree your head looks long/oval in the new picture.

Do you feel different on the Warrior diet versus the Teacher one? The change could be psychological rather than physical, even. I think both Chloe and I felt really "down" and anxious on the wrong diet (2 different ones) before finding the right diet.
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, November 15, 2009, 10:27pm; Reply: 116
Chandon,

Extrovert/Introvert:
Introvert in association with the other two changes I registered here is acceptable by Swami Warriorhood.  You see, It may be related to gene resetting, but, maybe I am not that Thinking and Judging as I thought.  In the quiet of night, when on my own and working here, I feel touched, sensitive, rerceptive of other peoples needs and want to be truthful, want justice, but with tact, harmony, and when I move in those fields, I get energized, like I am doing the right thing, feel at peace with myself.  That is when I become inspired and analogies and representations of situations flow from my mind to my fingertips.  
While studying my Swami report, clicked on the help tab in the personalities section and took the test on the link there.  INFP was the result.  Then I thought, oh not, this is going to make me a teacher, here we go again  ::) But, Swami, still make me warrior, I think the % went down a bit to 49 or 50, but still warrior.  Lists did not change, so it is a cosmetic change, more about finding who you are.

I also know that parties do not energize me.  If I go to one (I do not look for them), I can dance, socialize like the best of them, but then, I would only be at that party because I am happy with the people there.  I do not go making parties, organizing gatherings as such, unless they are family ones for special occasions.  But my door is open to anyone, and there is always room at my dinner table for the unexpected but always welcomed visitor.  The only time that visitor will not be welcomed is if it would try to enter my home with the wrong energy.  I think that my real warriorhood will kick into action and the shield, full of tact and resolution will come up to push the intruder away!!

Warrior vs Teacher diet:
Maybe it is not fair to compare them as such because when on the teacher diet, i did not explore the full possibilities of it.  I think I mentioned here before that while eating as a Teacher I was actually eating mostly as a warrior, did not even get to have the supps.  My life is full of situations like that, it is like my body knows, or something is guiding my actions to what I should or should not do. Like being on off vegetarian lifestyles for as long as I remember, or going in and out strong sporting activities vs periods of meditation emphasis in the lifestyle. There is that feeling, perception, intuition thing coming out, ruling my life.  Now I know, there were my A type genes screaming for vegetarian nourishment and meditation actions to keep the stress hormones in check.  ;) :)

Yet, I chose a computer career, started as programer (where my creativity  had a chance to thrive) but then took a turn for the worse (for my type) into a kind of inflexible project driven environment.  That is where I spent trapped my last 20 odd years and I think that is when my weight move up and up and up.  There was not much room for creativity or relaxation, bit by bit in a sure way my energy was being drained.  But, hey, there is a silver lining to everything.  Being there, living that is what helped us pay for what we have today in the physical world, did not planned it that way, but it happened.  I am now retiring, long leave without pay at the moment, officially say goodbye in March 10, but I am here for the first time in many, many years, enjoying and thriving in what I live and the vision ahead is bright and clear and I am so releived, and feel spiritually light as a feather on this.  It is so in synch with who I am, from the intra, ultra deep down molecular level to the expressive self of real me!  :)

BTW: thanks for asking ... :)
Posted by: Possum, Monday, November 16, 2009, 12:56am; Reply: 117
Quoted from Cristina
But my door is open to anyone, and there is always room at my dinner table for the unexpected but always welcomed visitor. Cool... The only time that visitor will not be welcomed is if it would try to enter my home with the wrong energy.  I think that my real warriorhood will kick into action and the shield, full of tact and resolution will come up to push the intruder away!!:eek:  - mental note to self...must remember my key AT ALL TIMES if I ever visit ;D :D


Posted by: Symbi, Monday, November 16, 2009, 1:03am; Reply: 118
It's great to see you chillin' out gradually, I've seen your T side alot early on more recently your F side is making a come back in what you write on here.  Maybe so many years of programming made your T side more dominant?  I reckon you're extroverted too.  Keep enjoying and having fun!  :K)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, November 16, 2009, 2:52am; Reply: 119
;D Please do (visit)  ;D
Posted by: Possum, Monday, November 16, 2009, 3:48am; Reply: 120
Ha ha...Cheers... 8) Try & keep me away... ::) :D Well a few thousand kms achieves that quite effectively.. ??) ::) but once we move back..I will be holidaying up North for sure...visiting my BT buddies.... ;D ;)
Posted by: Chandon, Monday, November 16, 2009, 11:59am; Reply: 121
Neat, I guess I forgot you had had J in your type. I'm an INFP too! I think Chloe is as well. I checked whether J would make me a warrior and it didn't. My sister has wondered if I'm a J, but I don't feel like one at all. I know without a doubt that I'm an I, so I didn't check what would happen if put E.

Sometimes we have to go through passages in our lives that lead somewhere better. I know what that is like! I enjoy getting some creative outlet through my job too, although with this one I also have to deal with drudgery. My husband is in the computer field and is a creative person. I think he gets SOME satisfaction through it, as it is web-based, but needs to find other avenues for his creativity too. (Just as I do.)

It sounds like you and SWAMI have found the right diet and it is a good place to be.
Posted by: paul clucas, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 4:59pm; Reply: 122
I know what you mean about the programmer/creative remark.

I trained and worked as a programmer before and during university.  After my degree I found that programming difficult to get into and hard to keep going.  When I was producing uncreative programming all day long I would compensate by drinking to excess.  Only now do I know that short-changing my need to be creative leads to destructive behaviours.

Learning is a must, but teaching requires me to have lots of alone time - or I will burn-out quickly.  Although management is not what you prefer, I see that side to you still prevalent sometimes.   ;)
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 5:24pm; Reply: 123
Quoted from Chandon
Neat, I guess I forgot you had had J in your type. I'm an INFP too! I think Chloe is as well. I checked whether J would make me a warrior and it didn't. My sister has wondered if I'm a J, but I don't feel like one at all. I know without a doubt that I'm an I, so I didn't check what would happen if put E.

Sometimes we have to go through passages in our lives that lead somewhere better. I know what that is like! I enjoy getting some creative outlet through my job too, although with this one I also have to deal with drudgery. My husband is in the computer field and is a creative person. I think he gets SOME satisfaction through it, as it is web-based, but needs to find other avenues for his creativity too. (Just as I do.)

It sounds like you and SWAMI have found the right diet and it is a good place to be.


Yes, Chandon, I'm an INFP too..We are very similar in lots of ways.  The thought of having a party would cause me stress (although I could manage to do it) I would just
make lots of lists and be relieved the day the party was over....however if I went to someone else's party, I'd probably find a quiet space and prefer to talk to one
person at a time. I can only do one thing at a time...If many people are talking at the
same time or if there is loud music in the background, I feel like retreating to somewhere quiet because I perceive lots of people and noise as chaotic..I used to be able to go to rock concerts...and be right in the middle of blasting noise...but I realize that level of energy goes beyond my scope of tolerance now...  I am not completely introverted.  I mean I do like to be with people, be helpful, but rather on my own terms and in fairly quiet environments.....and although it's just me and my DH in the house since kids are grown and married, it's often a great feeling if he's got something to do and lets me have the entire house to myself for a few hours..I love when things around
me feel calm.  But I'm an artist and artists love daydreaming.  This is why thinking I
was a Warrior seemed so wrong...Their world moves a lot faster than mine :)

Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 8:10pm; Reply: 124
Thanks guys for your insight.  When on my own, I feel best with background soft music (usually the SPA type radio music channel) or just the music of nature through the open windows in the right day (when not too hot outside and birds are at their singing best.  It is amazing how we do change as time progresses.  Maybe when younger our adaptability and need to 'fit in' society and peer groups or work environment to financially survive in a materialistic world,  hides our real personality needs which are now surfacing.  This is the time when some of us can really make the choices, without pressure  We could be partying all day, going to discos or blast our homes with loud noises, but some of us opt to have a quieter life and thrive in what the calmer, simpler things of nature or society (like music) have to offer.  I guess that is what makes me an introvert.  :)(think)
Posted by: Chandon, Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:47am; Reply: 125
Quoted from Cristina
Thanks guys for your insight.  When on my own, I feel best with background soft music (usually the SPA type radio music channel) or just the music of nature through the open windows in the right day (when not too hot outside and birds are at their singing best.


Yes, I tend to thrive on quieter music most of the time and love the outdoors and its sounds.

Posted by: Chandon, Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 11:54am; Reply: 126
Quoted from Chloe


Yes, Chandon, I'm an INFP too..We are very similar in lots of ways.  The thought of having a party would cause me stress (although I could manage to do it) I would just make lots of lists and be relieved the day the party was over....  I am not completely introverted.  I mean I do like to be with people, be helpful, but rather on my own terms and in fairly quiet environments.....and although it's just me and my DH in the house since kids are grown and married, it's often a great feeling if he's got something to do and lets me have the entire house to myself for a few hours..I love when things around me feel calm.  But I'm an artist and artists love daydreaming.  This is why thinking I was a Warrior seemed so wrong...Their world moves a lot faster than mine :)


Yes, we do sound a lot alike! I'm not at all drawn to planning parties--but occasionally I will do it and put a lot of effort into it. Then I find there hasn't been enough time to just "be" at the party rather than managing it. That's if we invite a lot of people (a lot to us, but not a lot to others, I suppose). I prefer small groups, for sure.

For the last couple of years my job didn't require all that much interaction with people, which in a way suited me, but made it so I couldn't picture being in a position that was more involved with people. Now I'm in such a position and I'm finding it isn't really stressful because there is plenty of time I spend working alone as well. It's probably a good balance for me. There have been times when I have worked at home. I find I do prefer going to an office, so that I do get some social interaction and a routine.



Posted by: Cristina, Friday, December 18, 2009, 5:13am; Reply: 127
Goodness me!  It has been about a month since I posted here.  Today I went to the doc had my blood pressure checked and it is perfect!!  I wish i could say the same about DH!!  That is another story as usual ...

The good thing is that the doctor I went to is very agreeable in ordering those blood tests necessary for our typing identification!!  So I ordered the only test I have not done so far: the Serotyping for A1 A2.  Since DH was also there checking his vitals, he also ordered all his blood grouping tests including Lewis, MN, A1A2.  We are both having our cholesterol and sugar checked and Liver enzymes which 3 months ago were a bit high on me (the previous Dr did not think much about it, but this Doc spotted it and even before i asked for it, was ordering a re-check).  It has been 3 months since the last blood test.  Time certainly flys when you are having   fun.   :)  It will be interesting to see my progress in this journey shown in these blood tests!!  It is a fasting test, so, no drink or eat at all before it!!  Gosh!!  I will miss my early morning lemon water!!  I think I will try to go to bed late tonight and try to stay as late as possible in bed in the morning to be ready for the 8:00am appointment!!  Will be hard when you are used to get up at 4:30 5:00am and walk for an hour before the start of the day!!
:) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, December 18, 2009, 5:58am; Reply: 128
The good thing about today as well is the fact that I was able to confirm that in Australia QML labs can do the ABO, RH, MN, and serotyping grouping tests as well as the Lewis tests (for secretor status)!!  I am sure Symbi will be elated about this, and so all the other Aussies seeking to do these tests.  Eventually, moderators can update the link where they keep this sort of info as reference, but wait until tomorrow morning after I come back from doing the test, just to make sure!!  What do they say: the proof is in the pudding? ...   ;) :) :)
Posted by: Lola, Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:01am; Reply: 129
Quoted Text
Eventually, moderators can update the link where they keep this sort of info as reference


that link would be our very cool search feature which Dr D has put up for us all! ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:10am; Reply: 130
We had a late lunch today which was some sort of Pat Tai resemblance with rice noodles, leeks, soy tempeth, carrots, baby red bellpepper (capsicum), parsley, beets, onion, tamari sauce and garlic.  Serve with a handful of fresh Alfalfa sprouts and a spoonful of basil pesto!!!  Yummy

I also had my Warrior trio, plus Deflect A,and Multivitamins, all blood type compliant.  I do not have them often, try to have them once a day, but sometimes I forget!!!  My weight plateau again! But I feel satisfied and great! Clothes fit better and my wardrobe is expanding in choices with the inclusion of those smaller sizes stuck at the bottom of the wardrobe as too small!!  Maybe I should up my supps to the recommended dosage to give my system a boost and trigger the fat burning machine back on!!  

Anyway, I am not complaining!!  it took me nearly 30 years to make me what I am today, so a few weeks here or there is nothing!!  This is a life journey and i am just on my 4th month of it ...   :)
Posted by: Lola, Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:21am; Reply: 131
good thinking!
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, December 18, 2009, 6:44am; Reply: 132
Hi Cristina,

Well done! (clap)
That's great that you found that out thanks!  Glad you're getting DH checked out too.  I've been researching blood tests at QML too.  Went into QML for a full blood count and asked the busy nurses, we looked in their book of tests.  Found:
lewis phenotype
ABO bloodgroup (doesn't mention subgroups of A)
Bloodgroup Rhesus factor
ABO bloodgroup Genotype (I guess AO etc)

Also there was a test for MN in the blood, but it was for Manganese, I wonder if you're going to get that result?  Could be interesting though!

I actually rang up the bloodbank division where they do these tests today, asking about M and N factor.  She said that they don't test those at all.  They do lewis and she didn't understand why I'd want to know and said I'd probably have to pay for it (I don't mind I said).  I asked about the subgroups of A (A1 and A2) she said they don't routinely test those unless results require it and it's not required for transfusions.  Got a bit prickly I think with me for asking all these questions.

So I hope you get the results that you want!  Can you tell us what your doctor actually put on the request form, the codes, like FBE for full blood count???  I want to make sure I know these before asking the doctor as they want you in and out of there in 10 minutes or less! (after waiting for a long time  ::) - normally half asleep (sleeping))

Your other blood test should be great, with all the good things you've been doing I bet you see improvement! Let us know  :)

P.S. you know QML labs are only in Queensland so the rest of Australia may have to brave Pathlab  :-/
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, December 18, 2009, 7:02am; Reply: 133
Thanks Symbi, well NorthRyde in Sydney have their own lab, forgot the name now, but it is posted elsewhere here.  And I am sure the other states they will have their QML/Pathlab equivalents.  I will wait for tomorrow to see how the blood taking nurses at QML react when they see the doc's request before claiming full victory!  Interesting ... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, December 18, 2009, 8:07pm; Reply: 134
Regarding what the doctor wrote on the form:

for my husband:
Blood grouping incl Lewis, M-N subtypes, A1-A2 subtypes.

for me:
Blood grouping A1-A2 subtypes.

I think that should do the job.   :) :) Will report back in a couple of hours when we come back.

Miss my walk and lemon water this morning.  Got out of bed at 5:30am, could not stay any longer.  Old habits die hard,eh!!  Do not want to sweat too much because the lab does not open until 8:00am!  
:) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, December 18, 2009, 11:54pm; Reply: 135
We are back and here is my report of the proceedings this morning.
We were the first ones there!!  Thanks goodness because by the time they opened it was a long queue waiting!  Anyhow, they took our form and a few minutes later I heard the nurse phoning who I am presuming was someone in head office saying:  'I have two people here with a request for a lewis, MN subtypes and A1A2 subtypes, are these blood grouping tests? The answer must have been in the affirmative because then she proceed to say: 'i thought so.  Will one pint be enough then?' At this point my husband look at me with that 'I hope is worth it the extra draining from me!!'.  I am not sure what the other side replied to the nurse here, but she ended up taking two pints from us, but maybe one was already for the cholesterol, sugar and liver enzymes tests we are also having done.  She was curious (the nurse) about why we are doing these tests, so I told her 'for an improve way of life to eat according to your unique blood and gene grouping'  She then told me she was B negative, that she had tried the B diet some years ago, but either did not do well or gave it up.  Of course, I put her up to date with the latest GTD developments.  She said she understood all that because she had worked in Brisbane in the organ transplant unit for many years and that we were lucky to have her there today, the others would have had a clue about the posibility of these tests, but she knew what they were, the only thing she was not sure for was how much blood to take for them.

Anyway, all this blah, blah, is to demonstrate that in Australia we can easily get this done, we just need to come across the right nurses, technos, dr for it to happen, but the more we keep on requesting, the more of them (personell) will become familiar with the terminology!  Good luck guys.

Regarding results timings, the cholesterol and blood sugar will be ready this Tuesday, but i have the feeling that the serotyping and Lewis, may take at least 5 days.  I am wrong?  I know the doctor wanted to see my husband on tuesday for his results.   :)
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, December 18, 2009, 11:54pm; Reply: 136
Whoa you must be hungry!  Hope you take it easy and get that blood sugar back to normal quickly.  It may take a few days to normalise, hope you don't get a blood sugar headache, probably the day after.

Wow!  You were lucky to get a nice nurse, you lucky thing!  They made me sign the form saying I know I may be charged for the test, as Medicare are changing the rules so much about what they cover at the moment.  Did they make you do that?

The reason I asked what is written exactly is my Dr has a computer system that has codes for all the QML tests in it.  I may have to ask her to write some extra info on there.  If anyone can understand Dr's writing!  ;) he he
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 12:12am; Reply: 137
Quoted from Cristina
  I am not sure what the other side replied to the nurse here, but she ended up taking two pints from us, but maybe one was already for the cholesterol, sugar and liver enzymes tests we are also having done.  


I hope that was two vial or test tubes of blood and not full pints.

A blood donation is ordinarily one pint. Two pints is signifigant amount of blood loss. Total amount blood in body varies but it is around 10 pints.

Blood test do not ordinarily require anywhere near a pint.

If you did loose two pints of blood, be sure to consume lots of fluid and try to work on eating things that will help rebuild the blood in your body.

Here is a link to the blood building protocols.

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/8.html

Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 12:12am; Reply: 138
Symbi, our posts must have crossed!  How did my body react to this fasting?

Wonderfully!!! With all the episode of the dark vision thing, we ended up having a very late lunch, which I considered, early dinner, at about 3:00pm!!  So I made sure we had a substantial healthy superbene one and of course pump myself with my Warrior, blood type supps.  Then at about 6:00pm I had yogurt with some fresh grapes, dry prunes, nutritional yeast and lecithin granules, with a bit of mapple syrup on top.  That was all for me and i fell very satisfied.  DH on the other hand finished the leftovers from the lunch time meal.  I went to bed at about 9:00, 9:30pm and I made sure the last thing I had was a full bottle of water (thinking I will not eat or drink anything else until 8:30 or 9am next morning!

I slept very well, and got up at about 5ish this morning (all my plans of sleeping in did not work!).  I felt fantastic!  DH on the other hand was not feeling too good, he was a bit light headed, so I say all his symptoms are starting to sound like he has sugar problems!!  Which does not surprise me the way he eats, craving all the time, can drink a two litre milk in a couple of days on its own if I let him.  Candida may be playing as well, because according to what he eats, he should be double the weight  he is now, but he is quite trim except for his abdominals sticking too much out (little grand daughter has asked him about his big belly!! :)

My doctor wrote those things quite clearly on the form, even i could read them! I do not think he find them or look for the codes in his computer.  They did not tell me anything about medicare no paying for these tests and did not make me sign anything in the forms, but they do have signs all over at the clinic where they say if Medicare does not pay for any tests, they will send you an account direct to you, so they cover themselves, maybe it is written in their form somewhere.

I think I answered the nurses reaction question on the previous post.  Ask away if you want more info.  Cheers.
:) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 12:16am; Reply: 139
Quoted from C_Sharp


I hope that was two vial or test tubes of blood and not full pints.



Thanks CS, i thought I heard her say pint, but she was talking from behind the counter and I was sitting at the reception, just quietly paying attention (ie: earsdropping...)  ;)  What she actually took was two little tubes, whatever they call them (since I am quoting I cannot see what you called them, sorry), so that will be OK.  Even for that, do you think we should follow the blood building protocol?  ??)   :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 12:19am; Reply: 140
And BTW, since I am metric, I did not have a clue what was I talking about when I said pint!!  :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 12:43am; Reply: 141
Quoted from C_Sharp

...
Here is a link to the blood building protocols.

http://www.dadamo.com/protocols/8.html




I do not know where to report this, but the link to all the Phytocal supps in the Blood building protocols above do not work.  They must have been replaced with an updated version of the product but forgot to update these links.  Here is the correct link for the Blood type A Pytocal:

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=BT008A

Maybe moderators can do the link updates?    ;) :) :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 1:34am; Reply: 142
For a regular blood test, I would not bother with worrying about replenshing the blood.
You probably lost less than 25 ml of blood and your body will easily regenerate that amount of blood.

Small tubes for a blood sample might hold about 2 ml.
Normal size I think is around 6 ml.
Large tubes are around 10 ml.




A pint is about half a liter. 473 milliliters if we want to be more accurate.

2 pints would be close to a liter of blood.

Collection of a pint of blood usually goes into a plastic bag and not a tube.
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 2:29am; Reply: 143
Funny, us posting at the same time  :).  Thanks for all the info,  those tests could go under many names and I wanted to be sure.  You'll let us know your results and the fees they charge of course?!  

Your hubby is lucky to get all those tests and have you helping him with his health!  Hope he gets his blood sugar stable, maybe low GI would help?
It should be like $22 - $41 each for the blood typing, I guess from reading the medicare benefits pathology that shows the costs.  Pretty good!

They took 2 vials from me a couple of days ago too (for Full blood count, ESR and TSH) and it affects me badly (an Explorer thing as we're always fighting anaemia) had a huge afternoon nap and got a bruised and sore arm.  Worth it though, really want to know if my Calcium and sodium and acidic blood is better now.

It might be good to update this thread for other aussies looking for secretor tests: Stickied under the Meeting Tree "Australian Secretor Testing" http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-budboard/m-1128116643/  You're a very good communicator, Cristina, hint hint  ;) ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 2:58am; Reply: 144
Quoted from Symbi

It might be good to update this thread for other aussies looking for secretor tests: Stickied under the Meeting Tree "Australian Secretor Testing" http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-budboard/m-1128116643/  You're a very good communicator, Cristina, hint hint  ;) ;D


;) ;) Done!  :) :)

Good luck with your tests too! and thanks for posting that link! :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, December 19, 2009, 3:03am; Reply: 145
now, where is that thread that talks about cholesterol tests done that report differently from what we do in australia? or from what QML in Australia does?  Something about LDL-C, or cholesterol C.  It was something making reference to a cholesterol test that took into acount the number of cholesterols passing through the cells, rather than just the total count.  I tried to explain that to my doctor, but he did not hear from it before and he can only rely on what the labs they use report on.  I did a search here, but could not find that thread!  i think it was a few weeks ago, a lady posted it ... Anyone remember that? :)
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, December 20, 2009, 12:31am; Reply: 146
Nice job Cristina on the secretor testing for Australia thread, I noticed you didn't bag Pathlabs that's nice of you!  Sorry I don't know the cholesterol post.  When I'm trying to find things sometimes I do a search and choose:

"search messages" 0 "days and" older

So you get all messages ever!  Still I can't find things that Lola can find, she must have a photographic memory!   :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, December 20, 2009, 12:39am; Reply: 147
I usually do my search on the main website (the box at the very top of the main website), no options for selecting days there, not that I have noticed  ::) That one takes you to the google like search results.  :) :)
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, December 20, 2009, 6:44am; Reply: 148
I do that too but it doesn't always bring up recent things on the forum for some reason  ??)  It's good when you want to search the whole website too not just the forum.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, December 20, 2009, 7:01am; Reply: 149
threads not active are deleted, reason why you will not find them doing a forum search at times.

relevant threads may at times be bumped, before being deleted, if no one answers to them

the general search in the main website page will bring up all past sticky or not yet deleted threads, and also old archived threads from the past boards

certain things I post, without links to those threads, are my personal notes saved before deletion or from the general archives! ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, December 20, 2009, 8:25am; Reply: 150
great work Lola!! Thanks for doing that! Nice to know we can get some of that info somehow.  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, December 20, 2009, 8:59am; Reply: 151
Thanks heaps for explaining Lola, but what is bumped?  Is that keeping a thread active?  Don't they archive any recent threads any more?

Also, forgot to say Cristina, I find it handy to search the forum for my own threads, cos I have CRAFT disease and often can't remember the name of a thread that I posted something on (and often go off topic  :B ::)(shrug)(geek)(goofy)(blush)(dance)) like now.
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, December 20, 2009, 11:09am; Reply: 152
Yes, I already tried that symbi, but still could not find it.  Maybe it got bumped, or I dreamed it all??!!  ;D :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, December 20, 2009, 6:26pm; Reply: 153
Quoted from Symbi
I do that too but it doesn't always bring up recent things on the forum for some reason  ??)  


Several reasons:

Not all forums on this site are indexed by Google.

Google only crawls sites periodically. So something may be posted on a site for a while before Google includes it.

Google can also choose to exclude content. Some of the reasons google might choose to exclude content are: complaints, it decides it might contain malicious software, or it decides you are running a link farm or otherwise attempting to cheat on its page ranking scheme.



Posted by: Cristina, Monday, December 21, 2009, 4:59am; Reply: 154
Use my Okara to make a lentil and soy loaf for lunch/dinner:

2 cups Okara
2 cups soy milk (home made)
2 cups oat bran
1/4 tempeth block chopped with some parsley, turmeric tube, french onion (shallots), 1 clove garlic, basil, about 2 or 3 leaves of swiss chard, some tamari sauce and salt to taste.

Mix everything together, put in loaf pan in moderate oven for about 40minutes. Served with home made pesto (basil, olive oil, walnut oil, pinenuts, parmesan).  DH, DS and I had lunch on this and still have about half left over for dinner.  Great, I do not have to cook much tonight.

We had lunch at about noon plus 30minutes.  We are planing to go for a walk later this afternoon 4:00pm and then have dinner, but now I am thinking, if it will be better to have dinner at about 4:00pm and go for a  walk at about 4:30pm.  We need to be home by 6:00pm to secure the chickens and fish for the night! or they may end up as pythons snacks!!

BTW, we already went for a walk this morning, but we are working towards increasing the activity to two brisk walks a day, since the gym thingy does not seem to work often enough (due to not getting there often enough and I am paying weekly fees for it!!!!!!!)  We have been reading the Cardiovascular and Diabetics 'Fight It' series books and physical activity is very important!!  DH with high bp and maybe cholesterol  and all.  My cooking takes those protocols into account, although Parmesan SF for us, is an avoid for those protocols.  Once we get the definite test results this week, I'll removed it from the menu if necessary, in the meantime, yummy Parmesan is bene.  ;D ;D
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, December 21, 2009, 6:08am; Reply: 155
Quoted from Cristina
We need to be home by 6:00pm to secure the chickens and fish for the night! or they may end up as pythons snacks!!


Just curious, how you secure the fish.
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, December 21, 2009, 8:25am; Reply: 156
put netting and cover over the tank to stop predator getting in at night.  During the day we lift some of these for a bit of lighting and more breeze.  This is a 2500 litre tank with about 130-150 Silver Perch.  ...   :)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, December 21, 2009, 8:38am; Reply: 157
4:00pm too early to have dinner, so we went for a walk and we are back now ready for our dinner.  Feel so good!!  The shopping experience at the end of the walk with DH was so much enjoyable this time.  He was very pro what to eat or not to eat.  Lovely!!!   ;) ;) :) :)
Posted by: Symbi, Tuesday, December 22, 2009, 12:16am; Reply: 158
Wow, that aint no little fish tank, you got some serious pets there!

Looking forward to hearing about your blood test results !  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:42am; Reply: 159
wow! The results are back!! Went to the docs just then and I think hubby is a nonnie!!  GTG christmas shopping, but will be posting everything sometime tonight.  Will definetelly need your help to interpret a few things from the reports!!  :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 2:26pm; Reply: 160
OK, time to report:

My results:
I am A2+
quoted from the report:
Quoted Text
ABO Blood Group Syssytem: A - A2. Possible genotypes are: A2-A2, A2-O


Cholesterol:
My cholesterol increased .6 in the last 3 months, but that is still well within the lower end of the normal range values.  
My Tri increased by .2 but still well within the lower end of the normal range values.
Because of these good results, the lab did not perform LDL, HDL tests. They considered these variations normal fluctuations for the body.
Liver enzymes:
wow! I had elevated liver enzymes 3 months ago and by just following the GTD Warrior, Swami Teacher and Warrior diets, they came down to well within the lower end of the normal range!!  All liver enzymes!!
Urea
value increased slightly but well below the half way mark of normal range.
Urate
was elevated last test, came down to within .1 of normal range!
Glucose
Was normal last test, went further down this test, still within normal range!!
Calcium
Normal last time, increased a bit this time but still well within normal range.
Alb and Glob
Alb down by 2 and Glob up by 2, both well within normal range.
Sodium, Potass, Chloride, bicarb all remained almost unchanged within normal range.

Got my doctor asking me if I was seeing a Naturopath of some sort and I said to him that no, I just get guided by Dr D's work in this forum and his published literature. I had with me the Diabetics and Cardiovascular Fight It books there to show him.  I think he was impressed with my results!!  Not bad for an overweight (on its way to skinny kingdom  of course!!;) ;) ) senior lady!!

Thank you, thank you Dr D and this forum for crossing my path and showing me the way to look after my body, by just eating right!!  ;D ;D :) :)

And to next post for DH's results ...

Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 3:04pm; Reply: 161
I want to finish reporting here before I update my Swami.

DH results:

ABO: A rh (D) Positive
Phenotype: A2+ it is A1+ !!!!
Lewis: Lea+, Leb-
MN: M+, N-

So, am I correct in interpreting these results as:
A1 plus, non secretor, M. Please confirm.

Glucose:
Was slightly over normal last test, came down to the very top of the normal range.  So, still not out of the woods, but good news is that it is on its way down!
Cholesterol:
increased by .4 to above 6, elevated for high risk patients, but just inside the normal range otherwise.
Trig increased slightly but within normal range.
Now the bad news come in the further analysis of his cholesterol:
HDL decreased to below normal. It was just within the range last time.
LDL increased to well above normal.  It was already high last time.
Total/HDL ratio increased which is not good.
Anyway, although these results are not ideal, they are not that bad to require lipid lowering therapy, so that is good news.  We can improve these values with the diet, once we establish what he is (Swamiwise).

He did not get a report on all the other clinicals (liver enzymes, sodium, urate, etc, etc), like me, because unlike me, his previous tests were within the normal range and did not warrant re-checking them so soon.

Got to understand that our Medicare system pays for all these tests, we did not have to pay anything, not even the visit to the doctor!! I would let you know if we get hit by any bills, but our understanding is that our health care system pays.  When I asked our doctor, why DH did not get a report on all the other things, he said that for the same reason an LDL/HDL check was not done for me: Medicare will not pay for tests deemed non essential or that they have not been particularly requested by docs.  Docs try not to request too many of 'not necessary' tests, so I guess, we are blessed that our doc was agreeable to request the Lewis, MN and A subtype tests!!!  Like they say, will it strong enough, with conviction, picture it happening and it will!!!

Well, now it is time to start working on DH's Swami so he can also soon start ripening the benefits to his health by eating right!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 6:19pm; Reply: 162
yes a nonnie! ;)
and MM homozygous of M
Posted by: Teresa S, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 6:52pm; Reply: 163
Cristina, congratulations on your good lab results. Now you know your husband's blood group for sure.  Your son could be an "A" or an "O"  And yes, Lewis b-  is equivalent to "non secretor"
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:08pm; Reply: 164
Quoted from Lola
yes a nonnie! ;)
and MM homozygous of M


and me being an M+ N+ I am what?  ??)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:10pm; Reply: 165
Quoted from Teresa S
Cristina, congratulations on your good lab results. Now you know your husband's blood group for sure.  Your son could be an "A" or an "O"  And yes, Lewis b-  is equivalent to "non secretor"


So my son could be an 'O'? That could explain his love for meat!!! ;D ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:16pm; Reply: 166
BTW, I updated my Swami with the A2 subtype and no glaring change, in fact, no changes at all!  I compared the shopping lists with my printed ones!  I already have my Swami foodlists tweaked for my type!   :) ;D :)  Too late and tired to do DH things last night, will have to somehow find the time today.  Hopefully I can get it finalized before the Christmas family gettogether tomorrow!!  :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 7:17pm; Reply: 167
Quoted from Cristina


and me being an M+ N+ I am what?  ??)


I took that to mean you were MN.

Enter that information in SWAMI like this:

Your MN Blood Group:


Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 8:59pm; Reply: 168
Thanks CS, I meant if DH is 'homozygeous' of M, what do we call us the M and N positives? ;D :)

Swami did bring my Warrior percentage down though, obviously it considers being an A2 not a warrior like attribute!  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 11:07pm; Reply: 169
Congratulations Cristina on your fixed liver enzymes and great blood restuls (jealous  ;)) and for pioneering the QML blood testing.  They really do it all, yeh!!!

Interesting that your hubby is a nonnie and an MM, did you suspect that?  Has he had lots of health problems?  Now wheat (naughty) probably already gone?

Good how you're both A2!  That may make it easier for cooking.  From what I've heard, A2 are supposed to be able to tolerate more meat, so wonder if your values and frequencies for those went up in SWAMI?  

Your son may be a nonnie too!  There was a good thread on secretor genetics I can't find it now sorry!  :B

You may still get a bill from QML for some of the tests in a few weeks time (that happened to me for an advanced test once)  Won't be much anyway :)

Have a merry christmas!
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 23, 2009, 11:43pm; Reply: 170
Quoted from Cristina
BTW, I updated my Swami with the A2 subtype and no glaring change, in fact, no changes at all!  I compared the shopping lists with my printed ones!  I already have my Swami foodlists tweaked for my type!   :) ;D :)

Nope Symbi, as posted then, my meat stayed avoid!!  ostrich, turkey and emu neutrals, that is all the meat I am allowed.  Maybe the A2 meat eating thing is more a explorer or Teacher thing?  ??)  It certainly did not affect my warrior swami list!  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 1:12am; Reply: 171
All the birds that run really fast you're allowed to eat neutrally, maybe that's a built in exercise plan  ;D

Interesting, probably your measurements, medical history and other results overturn the A2 result.  You have filled in every item in SWAMI now, well done!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 1:46am; Reply: 172
It you are  M+ N- that would indicate you are MM and homozygous for M.
It you are  M+ N+ that would indicate you are MN and are hetrozygous.
It you are  M- N+ that would indicate you are NN and homozygous for N.



If people have questions on MN alleles and inheritance - here is a Charlie Chaplin quiz system explaining possible M and N allele combinations in reference to a paternity case.

http://www.mwit.ac.th/~ooy/animation3/animation1/bio202/genetics/blood%20LM.swf
Posted by: wwbailey, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 1:52am; Reply: 173
Well I have seen this thread floating up and down the forum for awhile now and I had to look to see what all the hoopla was about!

It seems you have quite the personal thread going!  1600 views and 172 posts... you are rivaling our dear Ms. Peppermint Twist!!!   ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:07am; Reply: 174
Welcome wwwb, it just evolved in what it is, no plan ...   :) Hope you find some useful info in it too!  Pop in any time ... :)

I have changed values for DH, rushed through the paperwork last night and got A2 / A1 values  mixed up.  :-/  Still trying to work out with Lola the possible genotypes reported for him in the blood report:

A1-A1, A1-A2, A1-O.

Will it warrant to call the lab to confirm the values?  Trying to do a search on the net to find more info on it ...  Maybe this is one for Dr D to clarify as well?  :)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:24am; Reply: 175
Quoted Text
here is a Charlie Chaplin quiz system explaining possible M and N allele combinations in reference to a paternity case.

where s that CC quiz?
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:37am; Reply: 176
sure, call the lab.....they need to confirm two of those
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:41am; Reply: 177
Quoted Text
Maybe this is one for Dr D to clarify as well?


clarify what?
the lab should clarify this ......how should Dr D know which
gT he really is? ;)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:41am; Reply: 178
Husband is A1 with those possible genotypes.

A1 is dominant.

So the phenotype will be A1 regardless of whether the genotype is A1-A1, A1-A2, or A1-O.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:45am; Reply: 179
Quoted from Lola

where s that CC quiz?


It is here:

http://www.mwit.ac.th/~ooy/animation3/animation1/bio202/genetics/blood%20LM.swf
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:46am; Reply: 180
phenotype vs genotype in the blood lab sense that is  ;) ??) :)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:48am; Reply: 181
right
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, December 24, 2009, 5:49am; Reply: 182
thanks for adding that link to the CC quiz! :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, December 26, 2009, 2:25pm; Reply: 183
Quoted from Cristina

Maybe the A2 meat eating thing is more a explorer or Teacher thing?  ??)  It certainly did not affect my warrior swami list!  :)


Quoted from Symbi

Interesting, probably your measurements, medical history and other results overturn the A2 result.  


Or maybe the meat eating thing is a 'nonnie' thing.  My husband, being an A1, was made a  Warrior by Swami but he is allowed to eat lamb and mutton once a week and ostrich, emu and turkey twice a week.  He then has the longest list of fish diamonds I have ever seen! His fish neutrals counts leave spare fingers in one hand and his avoids and black dots does not use too many fingers on the second hand!!!  He has his favourites tomatoes and pimentos together with Spelt and Kamut wheat as  neutrals ... i can see a pizza coming his way, but just with the soft cheeses: ricotta, paneer, quark, cottage and feta!  i will have to experiment with this ... We still have many things in common, like coffee and chocolate!!! Lucky us!  ;) ;D

I cheated a bit to obtain the Swami report though, because i could not take his fingerprints, did not have the ink pad, so i used the 'composite' choice for all his fingers.  Need to update this with real imprints when i get them.  Lola suggested to use a magnifier glass on his fingers ,  that may work ... :)
Posted by: cindyt, Sunday, December 27, 2009, 1:40am; Reply: 184
Quoted from Cristina

I cheated a bit to obtain the Swami report though, because i could not take his fingerprints, did not have the ink pad, so i used the 'composite' choice for all his fingers.  Need to update this with real imprints when i get them.  Lola suggested to use a magnifier glass on his fingers ,  that may work ... :)


Look at them in bright light with the magnifying glass.  I'm very nearsighted so I could see them easily in the sun even without the magnifying glass.
Posted by: Agathe, Sunday, December 27, 2009, 10:09am; Reply: 185
I used a classic roller-ball pen to "color" my finger tips. Then I pressed them on a paper sheet. The imprints were quite readable.
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, December 28, 2009, 8:21am; Reply: 186
Done! I used the magnifying glass (thanks Lola and all for the ideas).  He has arches, loops and a couple of whorls and Swami made him a 54% Swami thrifty type of warrior.  He has a very nice diet, all his favorites are there!!   I also took the opportunity of reviewing my prints, using the magnifying glass and I discovered a whorl (like inside a loop) and a couple of arches which previously I thought were loops. Swami still made me a warrior, but a RECEPTOR type warrior, which brings it into line with the Teacher side of me.  My lists changed a bit, still no red meats, but I have Ostrich as a superfood and Emu and Turkey as Neutrals in the Poultry group.  I have got Rye and all types of wheat (including gluten) added to my Carbs group and in the dairy I now have Goat milk as neutrals.  The rest is pretty much the same.

BTW, I think my ridges are so much clear now compare to a few months ago, and I do not seem to have many white lines!!   ;D :)

I produced the lists for both of us, stuck them on the fridge and a quick comparison makes me think that there are not that many differences between hubby and I, so it should be easy cooking in my kitchen.  ;D :)
  
Posted by: Possum, Monday, December 28, 2009, 8:29am; Reply: 187
Well done ;)
Posted by: Agathe, Monday, December 28, 2009, 9:35am; Reply: 188
Quoted from Cristina
...Swami made him a 54% Swami thrifty type of warrior.  He has a very nice diet, all his favorites are there!!

Good !
It's very important to have a number of favorite foods not only allowed but also beneficial. It compensates our efforts to stay away from other foods we also love but are avoids.

I am really ok with my own list now. Meat and poultry are allowed each three times a week. Fish, 4 times a week. The "veggie" aspect of A's diet I first followed, and later of Warrior's I thought I was, really didn't please me. I think I would not have been able to follow those two diets strickly on the long course.

I also enjoy a lot grapefruit, apple and... blueberry juices, three superfoods. Without forgetting carrot juice, a diamond !
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, December 28, 2009, 10:00am; Reply: 189
Quoted from Agathe

I also enjoy a lot grapefruit, apple and... blueberry juices, three superfoods. Without forgetting carrot juice, a diamond !

Except for Apple juice that is a neutral, they are all superfoods for me too, with Grapefruit a diamond!!

DH on the other hand has both Apple and Blueberry juices as neutral, but enjoys the same rating as me for carrots and Grapefruit juice!!  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, December 28, 2009, 10:04am; Reply: 190
Quoted from Lola


clarify what?
the lab should clarify this ......how should Dr D know which
gT he really is? ;)


I meant, from the scientific point of view, if there is any chance that in some cases there could be the 3 options given for a person.  Unusual, but could it be scientifically possible?   ??) :)

Labs close for holidays, this will have to wait a few days for the clarification from them ...  :)
Posted by: Teresa S, Monday, December 28, 2009, 12:01pm; Reply: 191
Cristina, congratulations for having refined your diet a little more, with your fingerprints.  I cant wait to see your next photo!  ;)
Posted by: Chandon, Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 9:23pm; Reply: 192
Cristina,

I have something that is like a whorl within a loop, which I don't feel I can call a whorl. (Doing so had me end up as a Teacher.)  I have now given it composite or loop and get the same Explorer diet with each of those. I can see that my decision to not call it a whorl makes sense because, I was having too many problems crop up on my teacher diet like new cavities, skin issues, allergies/asthma, and losing hair! I may have had some thyroid suppression.

Cristina, with your new picture, you don't seem to have a long head anymore. I don't feel that the head shape will make you 100% one thing or another. I have a long head and definitely am not a Warrior. Like you, I am receptive. Your head probably is one thing that points you a little in the direction of Teacher. For me, my main measurements (ie, advanced calculator ones), are Teacher traits, plus I do have a few whorls and GI issues too; my fingerprints have shifted me over to Explorer and it really feels right now.

Agathe, I'm like you. While I saw some benefit from the A BTD in terms of allergies, I couldn't sustain such a vegetarian diet, even though it had its appeal for a while. I love to eat nuts, fruits, veggies, beans and grains, but need the animal protein. I guess if I had concentrated more on fish, I would have been able to sustain the A diet longer. I'm glad I never ended up having to try the Warrior diet. I would have really been in bad shape.
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 10:42pm; Reply: 193
I was being reserved until Chandon mentioned this..but when I saw the new photo
of Cristina and saw A2 listed along with Warrior, my first thought was Teacher. Face
looks more round than long to me.  And Cristina's personality "feels" to me Teacher-like too...the desire to be helpful and want to "teach" others which is very much like I am.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 10:42pm; Reply: 194
Just read about a balloon technique to enlarge fingerprint patterns:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.jcu.edu/chemistry/outreach/fingerprint_balloon.JPG&imgrefurl=http://www.jcu.edu/chemistry/outreach/day3forensics.html&usg=__oXocKktLhwnQ5twXSyhPMaweIBc=&h=2304&w=3072&sz=3110&hl=en&start=81&um=1&tbnid=IS4o32zNMzVXCM:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dfingerprint%2Bloops%26ndsp%3D18%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7GGLL_en%26sa%3DN%26start%3D72%26um%3D1
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, December 29, 2009, 11:59pm; Reply: 195
great option!

I ll have to try it out sometime...... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:53am; Reply: 196
Chloe, Chandon you got me thinking.  If I am guided by food reactions, I could use the placing of Kefir as a determinant of suitable food lists.  I have tried Kefir in the past and I associate with a tremendous built up of mucous!!!  The one that you feel at the back of your throat on a continuous drip!!  Warrior places that in the superbenes or diamond while Teacher sends it to the avoids!!  ding ding (warning bells!!).
So I went back and review my traits:

A+ = either Warrior or Teacher
A2 = Teacher
MN = Warrior
Secretor = Warror or Teacher
Index fingers reversed = Teacher

Torso longer than legs = Warrior or Teacher
Ecto-endomorph = Teacher
Sinew = Teacher (you can see the colour of my veins and the outline of my tendons clearly)
Slight Taster = Teacher
Narrow gonial angle = Teacher
Feeling = Teacher
High WHR = Warrior

Note: The two values in bold above, I changed now, I had it as endomorphic, but that is not me. I am not barrel chested or pear shaped, I am shapelly with more belly and boobs and arms than I need, but, they are moving down (slowwwwwly though), and will be ideal soon.  Slight taster makes more sense now than the super taster I had.  I taste things, but not to the extreme of finding cabbage taste awful,  

In doubt:
Lower/Upper leg measurements
Lower Longer = Warrior
Upper longer = Teacher
Very close measurements, equal or even upper favour  ::) ::) ::)
Currently is set to Lower leg longer, changing to upper leg will increase the percentage in Teacher


finger prints
Who Am I kidding? They are all loops, a couple are standish loops with a right angle bend at the very bottom which make me think they could be arches ...  And even the one that seem to have like a one line closed arch  (whorl) it is inside a very definite loop.  In other words if my blood type were OAB instead of A I will be a definite Nomad!!! So, neither Warrior nor Teacher here, no warrior arches, no teacher whorls ... Had it changed the other day to indicate a couple of Arches, but changed back now and that gave me a Teacher GT!!  Sensitive Swami! :)

So i am looking back at the Teacher diet now that gives me Goat in the red meats, Turkey, ostrich and Squab (what is that?) as diamonds, emu beneficial and chicken as neutral (that rooster better behave now, it is looking dangerous for him!!).  Yogourt is there in SFs and of course the pecorinos, parmesan, romanos and others sharing that spot.  Kefir, Riccota , paneer, quark all gone to black dots ...  Now I have to consume 6 cups of live foods, I was strugling with 5!! and my fruit frequency is 3 times daily when it was only 2 before!  I like all the choices, I think I could live on this diet happily ever after ...

Please, do not judge or laugh at me, the journey to discovery is a tricky one, but at least I am blessed with the fact that I am doing it by choice and not forced upon me.  I am contemplating these changes because the weight is still moving slowly, so although feeling fantastic, good lab results, I need that extra push to shake the final kgs off. I have got to do it right, without having to depend on things like the 'weight loss pack'.  I want to do it by eating properly for my type.  It is defining that type that is the tricky part.  No complaints ...  At least I have SwamiX to help me do it and adapt as needed!!  :) :)
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 8:18am; Reply: 197
Please, do not judge or laugh at me, the journey to discovery is a tricky one"" we all  understand that only too well so would never judge or laugh at you!! ;) :) We are in this together & appreciate your input!! All the best...
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 8:22am; Reply: 198
Quoted from C_Sharp
great idea ;) Cheers!!

Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 10:55am; Reply: 199
Thanks Possum!! Yes, we are in this together, in the learning, sharing ...  :)
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 2:16pm; Reply: 200
Never a judgment or laughter here about determining genotypes because I've been there
myself....I thought I was a Warrior for 18 months.  Did very poorly on that diet.

Teacher fits me but I think a combination of Teacher/Explorer might fit me better...I
still question the dairy and eggs and lots of soy.  None of those foods work really well.
Yet, I don't like meat nor would I want to eat much of it.  My SWAMI doesn't give me
any meats at all. I do very well on plants, fish, poultry, nuts, seeds,beans, fruits and veggies.

Cristina....Squab is a little bird, ie, pigeon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squab_(food)
Posted by: Heidi, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 4:11pm; Reply: 201
"and Squab (what is that?)"

A young, newly hatched, or unfledged pigeon.

Squab is a super diamond for me, but I can't see myself ever eating one  :-/

The nice thing about SWAMI Xpress is that we can keep tinkering with it until we are sure we have everything right. Teacher/Warrior, it doesn't really matter all that much as long as the resulting diet "fits" and makes you feel great. Although you might want to hold off on printing out the food lists until all your doubts are cleared up  ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 4:58pm; Reply: 202
Quoted from Heidi
"and Squab (what is that?)"

A young, newly hatched, or unfledged pigeon.

Squab is a super diamond for me, but I can't see myself ever eating one  :-/

The nice thing about SWAMI Xpress is that we can keep tinkering with it until we are sure we have everything right. Teacher/Warrior, it doesn't really matter all that much as long as the resulting diet "fits" and makes you feel great. Although you might want to hold off on printing out the food lists until all your doubts are cleared up  ;)


Right on all counts Heidi.  I cannot see myself eating pigeon either! I have had goat milk before, but I have never eaten goat meat.  I do not even know if you can get that here.  It is only neutral though, so not important to have  ::)
All I print is the shopping lists, my DGD uses the back of the pages for her colourings,  at least they do not go to waste...

Chloe, thanks for your encouraging words too. Goat is the only meat shown and I do not think I bother either. I actually asked Bob at pharmacal to change the upper, lower get ratio for me, see what happens ...  :) :)
Posted by: Chandon, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 6:58pm; Reply: 203
Quoted from Cristina
Chloe, Chandon you got me thinking.  If I am guided by food reactions, I could use the placing of Kefir as a determinant of suitable food lists.  I have tried Kefir in the past and I associate with a tremendous built up of mucous!!!  The one that you feel at the back of your throat on a continuous drip!!  Warrior places that in the superbenes or diamond while Teacher sends it to the avoids!!  ding ding (warning bells!!).


Glad to be of service! Getting all the right info into SWAMI is no easy task. It's difficult to interpret some fingerprints, for one, and measuring has its challenges too. I think the one area where my measurements are REALLY close is my fingers. If I were to switch which ones are longer, I'd think I'd be even more of an Explorer, because for me, my index fingers are a bit longer or are equal.

Yes, in some ways, how we react to certain foods could tell us a lot, especially if we already have SWAMI. For me, the brewer's yeast became one of those foods. It seems to really overwhelm me. Still, now, with my Explorer SWAMI, soy is being downplayed, but I do have a couple of soy superfoods and the rest are neutral.

At the same time, how we react to a food, like soy (a common allergan), may not be indicative whether we're Explorer-like. I think what our primary "issue" is is most telling. For me, it has become clear that I have to deal with my liver and that trumps dealing with my GI tract, so I am an Explorer, yet I do get to eat certain classic Explorer no-nos, like chicken eggs, soy, wine, avocados, and chocolate, plus even some non-Explorer cheeses.

For some reason, I guess because of my allergies, my health has forced me to reevaluate what I am. If something like that doesn't come to the fore, it might be difficult to know that you're on the wrong diet. Lack of weight loss, if that is what we want, can be another thing that gets us thinking.

I think being an INFP--the idealist healer--makes us want to keep reevaluating ourselves and our diets, to be the best that we can be and to nurture ourselves. I think the INFP is an optimist, so to me, it is not a failure at all to have tried something that didn't work. I think it's a good learning experience that helps us to know ourselves better.



Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:23pm; Reply: 204
Quoted Text
In other words if my blood type were O instead of A I will be a definite Nomad!!!

you mean if you were a B instead, right? :o
no O nomads.....
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:36pm; Reply: 205
Quoted from Lola

you mean if you were a B instead, right? :o
no O nomads.....


Whoever type can be Nomad, is it B or AB? Thanks Lola for heads up, changed my post.  :)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:45pm; Reply: 206
yeah, any of those.....
Posted by: Raquel, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 10:07pm; Reply: 207
Cristina Interesting all your personal evolution in your swami, I didnt read complete yet, I need more time,
thanks for share...
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 10:31pm; Reply: 208
I love that balloon method of looking at fingerprints.  I cannot wait to try it.  

Chandon, did you have many whorls?

Cristina did you have any?

I have 4 for sure....two prints aren't readable at all.
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 10:53pm; Reply: 209
I have to try that balloon method, but I do not think I have any whorls.  Thee are certainly no circles or ovals or any 'enclosing'type of ridges in my fingers, except for one that is like a ridge that got divided in two and closed inside the very top of a ulnar or radial loop.  I have to check if the balloon method is explained, do you imprint on a deflated balloon and then inflate it? go to check that link again ...  :)
Posted by: Chandon, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 12:01am; Reply: 210
It seems my fingerprints are harder to read than before! Another sign that the Teacher plan wasn't working. I am pretty certain I have 3 whorls and the remainder are loops, unless 1 is considered a composite. The odd print is the only radial loop whereas the rest are ulner. (I think I am correct in this.)

1 of my whorls is very rounded and the other 2 are less so.
Posted by: Chloe, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 1:58am; Reply: 211
Cristina, when you find that link with the balloon fingerprinting, could you please share
it with us here.:)  I seemed to have forgotten where I first saw it.  It would seem logical
that you imprint balloon before it's blown up and when you blow it up, the fingerprints
are enlarged to where you can see more detail.  If you have no whorls, could you still
possibly be a Teacher?  I'm a Teacher without visible wrist tendons...Do you have
visible wrist tendons?

Chandon, since August when I started my SWAMI for Teacher, I don't see any progress
in being able to read those unreadable fingerprints.  Dr. D says it can take a year...Sit
back, put your feet up and wait with me.  This is kind of like watching paint dry...LOL
Posted by: Heidi, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 2:08am; Reply: 212
Chloe, it is just back a page in this thread. A post by C#.
And yes, you put the print on the balloon and then blow it up. It says to use a Sharpie, not sure how well that comes off  :-/
Posted by: Chloe, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 2:13am; Reply: 213
Quoted from Heidi
Chloe, it is just back a page in this thread. A post by C#.
And yes, you put the print on the balloon and then blow it up. It says to use a Sharpie, not sure how well that comes off  :-/


Thanks Heidi...:)

Regarding removing Sharpie ink.
http://www.ehow.com/how-does_4841186_removing-permanent-marker-skin.html

I also read on another website to try baby oil.
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:32am; Reply: 214
No worries Cristina,

They're all healthy diets in SWAMI so you can't really go wrong.  You've been losing weight and feeling good and blood results good, wow  :o, you mean you could be even better!   ;D  :)

Here are some good links about fingerprints.  
http://dhi.health.state.nm.us/elibrary/cchspmanual/fingerprint_manual.pdf
http://www.policensw.com/info/fingerprints/finger07.html

I have 2 - 4 tented arches (2 have loops as well  ::)) which are pretty rare and on the thumbs double loops - that are actually counted as whorls.  So I have signs of teacher and warrior on my fingers, also non-matching index fingers, sign of an Explorer.  Fingers in each pie you could say!  :)

Surprised you don't have any whorls, being possibly a teacher, maybe you do but didn't know it?

I see warrior in you (persuing research or mental tasks hard) and Teacher (being into details), so not much help there  :-/  SWAMI will know :)

BTW got my blood test results back and all within normal limits, sodium, calcium and bicarbonate still in the lower edge of normal, so I'll keep dosing up on those.  So happy to see my kidney filtering rate seems to be higher, must be cos I'm not clogging them with acids any more  :)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 6:56am; Reply: 215
Quoted from Cristina
Thanks Possum!! Yes, we are in this together, in the learning, sharing ...  :)
You're sooo welcome!!! ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 8:16am; Reply: 216
Thanks Symbi, I will check those links soon.  Glad your results are on the good side of things too!!  And you are right there, all healthy diets, minor varietions here and there, generaly good on either.

Girls and lads, happy new year to you all.  We are having a quiet one here with youngsters doing their own thing somewhere else ...  :) :)
Posted by: Jenny, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 8:51am; Reply: 217
Cristina, I only dip in and out at the moment, so must have missed something..are you now not sure of whether you are a Warrior? I don't see a GT label in you personal description anymore.
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 11:13am; Reply: 218
Thanks Cristina! Forgot to say, thought I was blood type B at first and wrote lists and all, remembered my blood test result wrongly lol.  Happy new year!  We're having a quiet one at home too (once G goes to bed lol).

SwamiX A2+ in your GT label looks pretty slick and modern.  

Jenny, Possum and all - happy new year.  Here's to a healthy and happy and prosperous 2010 (that sounds good too) :-)  
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 12:59pm; Reply: 219
Mp matter how hard I try my imagination, I do not see any whorls on my fingers and there are no Arches either, just standish right angle loop in one finger and pretty clear radial or ulnar loops for the rest (after comparing them with those links you posted Symbi, thanks). So, at the moment I am a Swami Teacher opting to stay away from goats and pigeons, but quite happy with the rest of her food choices  ;) ;)
Posted by: shells, Thursday, December 31, 2009, 1:10pm; Reply: 220
Wow Christina, it certainly has been an interesting journey for you   :D  I wonder if, when I get swarmi, whether much will change for myself as I've been such a classic textbook case of O Explorer (Jane Public's sister!)

Thanks for your sharing it is interesting and also helps us  :)   8)
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, January 1, 2010, 12:50am; Reply: 221
Quoted from Cristina
... So, at the moment I am a Swami Teacher opting to stay away from goats and pigeons, but quite happy with the rest of her food choices  ;) ;)


lol.  Clever you!  Pidgeons have been known to leave nasty deposits all over and goats are likely to eat your shirt.  ha ha  :B
That's good you don't have whorls - less cancer risk  :)  You may have a bit of explorer in you with Radial loops.  The sideways loop sounds interesting - can you find an example to show us?

Shells - that's cute (and lucky).  Must be good to have a famous sister.   8)    

As I munch on a bowl of oatmeal, I curse my fingerprint arches.  I have slower bowels than the busses on the local bus service !  ha ha
Posted by: Possum, Friday, January 1, 2010, 2:52am; Reply: 222
Quoted from Symbi
lol.  Clever you!  Pidgeons have been known to leave nasty deposits all over and goats are likely to eat your shirt.  ha ha  :B
That's good you don't have whorls - less cancer risk  :)  You may have a bit of explorer in you with Radial loops.  The sideways loop sounds interesting - can you find an example to show us?

Shells - that's cute (and lucky).  Must be good to have a famous sister.   8)    

As I munch on a bowl of oatmeal, I curse my fingerprint arches.  I have slower bowels than the busses on the local bus service !  ha ha
I'm ROF laughing :D ;D...After the comment re the pigeons leaving nasty deposits & you having slower bowels than the busses on the local service... Just wanna know (or maybe not) what sort of deposits the busses make...) I guess they have been known to leave skid marks ::) ;D :D
Posted by: Lola, Friday, January 1, 2010, 3:04am; Reply: 223
FYI on your famous sister, Shells.... ;)

Quoted Text
Dr D
The Jane Public is not a real SWAMI printout. There were just a bunch of filters and switches thrown arbitrarily so as to get a printout.
Posted by: Jenny, Friday, January 1, 2010, 3:25am; Reply: 224
Ah yes, but that is how my Explorer - man describes life as an Explorer Nonnie--all the switches seem to be thrown arbitrarily. :-/
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, January 1, 2010, 3:29am; Reply: 225
Quoted from Possum
I'm ROF laughing :D ;D...After the comment re the pigeons leaving nasty deposits & you having slower bowels than the busses on the local service... Just wanna know (or maybe not) what sort of deposits the busses make...) I guess they have been known to leave skid marks ::) ;D :D


Tears in my eyes ROFL Possum!  :) :) ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Possum, Friday, January 1, 2010, 4:05am; Reply: 226
LMAO then... eh??;D
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, January 1, 2010, 4:13am; Reply: 227
;D Yeah Poss, if I was an ant it would have probably fell off and good riddance (actually I have the opposite problem, overly fluent the last few days) verbally, online chatting and otherwise.  Have colonoscopy finally booked for end of month.  YES!

Sorry Cristina, we're filling your thread with #*($.  "That's what friends are for"  :)
Posted by: Possum, Friday, January 1, 2010, 4:35am; Reply: 228
oops yeah sorry Cristina ;)
if I was an ant it would have probably fell off and good riddance What??!! ??) No way... ;) Goodluck with your colonoscopy!!
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, January 1, 2010, 4:35am; Reply: 229
Thanks for the humour girls, I needed it!!  

I am almost there to move one notch down on the scales.  This morning I saw a glimpsed of 83, but when came back from the walk and after having breakfast was back on 84.2Kg!!  I think it will be nearly a month since I hit 84! Talk about plateau!! I usually drink a lot while walking ... I am trying not to obsessed over it, but I cannot stop myself weighing every day, even two or three times a day!!  I do not know what has got into me!!! and I have adviced people so many times not to do that!!!  Slap, slap  ::)   ... :-/  :)

I have been thinking too that the one thing that may be slowing down my weigh loss maybe the fact that my routine is all over the place.  For the last few weeks, I had been struggling  with my priorities, and my food routine has been at the losing end.  Very compliant with everything, but not reaching quotas of live foods and balanced proteins ... Too much going on around me ... Late nights affecting my wake/sleep pattern.  No problems to go to sleep, but not getting there early enough and not waking up early enough ... I am an early riser and I miss my early mornings ... 6, 6:30am is too late for me ...  I can almost hear Lola: alternate nostril breathing!  Yes, it has come in handy a couple of times, very relaxing.  Funny, when hubby tried to do it, he could not set the fingers up, bending the fingers the way the routine ask, made him feel funny, he actually went all off colour on the face!!  try to figure that one up!! he can use and bend his finger individually no problems, just that combo ... Anyway, I need patience and once these things around us settle down, it will be ok and the weight will fly down.  Although, I will be so proud of myself if I can achieve that in despite of stress situations ... That is why I am looking at GT/Warrior and reviewing my biometrics ... It is important to get it as close to right as I can.   ;) :)

Simby, I will try to photo my fingerprint and post it, see what you think ... ;D :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, January 1, 2010, 4:38am; Reply: 230
Good luck with that too Symbi!!  Mi casa is tu casa friends.  Chat away, I love it!  nice sharing what is going on with our living ...  ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Possum, Friday, January 1, 2010, 4:42am; Reply: 231
Hard time of year for routines...??!! ??) You'll get back to it & If you are gonna weigh every day - which I also can't help doing... ;) maybe make sure it is only first thing & in same or no clothes.. ??) b4 eating & drinking anything... ;)
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, January 1, 2010, 8:05am; Reply: 232
Cristina  :K) thanks.  Great idea Possum, even shoes can change the weight.

You probably know already that muscle weighs more than fat.  The scales CAN lie sometimes.  If you're exercising well, you could be putting weight on but losing fat.  You know holding water will send your weight up.  

What about measuring your waist, hips etc. instead of your weight, say once a week.  It shows more of how you are toning up and it may surprise you.  I don't really go by weight myself as I swell up at different times of the month and when it's hot, but clothes that fit and don't fit are an indication and whether my legs rub together or not (have thunder thighs no matter what I do (constipated)(pick_nose)(verymad)) (eek)(hugegrin).  

Maybe the full moon was interfering with you last night? (angry)(disappointed)  Sounds like you've been really busy lately and you need to take it easy - maybe too much stimulation?

It was bad when Dr asked me to step on the scales and I said "what, just after christmas?"  (verymad) Bad time of year for routines and weight loss, hopefully it will all return to normal soon  :)  
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, January 1, 2010, 9:31am; Reply: 233
Wise words girls as usual ...  
I was copying and pasting my shopping cards from Swami today, including neutrals, and guess who I came across in one of my food lists for red meats:
OPOSSUM!! No to worry though, it is in the avoids!! not that I would ever dare laying a teeth on our friends, no matter how shining their diamond coating may be!!!  ;D ;D ;D  I wonder what the rating of it is for our friendly and wise Possum?  ;) ;)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, January 1, 2010, 7:30pm; Reply: 234
Quoted from Cristina
...I feel like I have so many nomad traits myself according to the GT book, but my blood type takes me somewhere else ...  


If you tend to identify with Nomad, that would tend to support the idea that you are a Teacher instead of a Warrior.
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, January 1, 2010, 8:34pm; Reply: 235
Really CS? Why is that?  ??)  :)

PS: I mean, that identifying myself with Nomad traits makes me more like Teacher? Curious... :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 12:39am; Reply: 236
In the GenoType diet, the diets are sort of paired--with diet pairs being for people with common characteristics.



One way you see this is in the supplement recommendations. Since the paired diets have common characteristics some supplements recommended for the pairs are the same (not all the supplements, just some).

The primary characteristic that the diet pairs share is a worldview.  Teacher and nomads share a receptor worldview.
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 12:50am; Reply: 237
Quoted from Cristina
...came across in one of my food lists for red meats:
OPOSSUM!! No to worry though, it is in the avoids!! You bet it is!!?? ;Dnot that I would ever dare laying a teeth on our friends, no matter how shining their diamond coating may be!!!  ;D ;D ;D  I wonder what the rating of it is for our friendly and wise Possum?  ;) ;)
Not such a high rating today...after stupidly nibbling on Christmas pudding last night...bah humbug I hate Christmas :-/ ::)

Posted by: Sparkler, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 3:44am; Reply: 238
Quoted from C_Sharp
...The primary characteristic that the diet pairs share is a worldview.  Teacher and nomads share a receptor worldview.


Hijack alert:

SWAMI just told me that I was a receptor Warrior!  The advanced calculator in the book pegged me as a Teacher.

*sigh*

Oh, and opossum is actually eaten by people down here where I live.  They say once possum has been cooked in a house, you can smell it forever.   :P

Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:01am; Reply: 239
Poor possum's get blamed for everything  ;).  Christmas food is so naughty (naughty) , but I enjoyed some dried cranberry homemade treats this christmas that weren't too naughty.  Seem to be the only dried fruit I like at the mo (no sulphites, just sugar (shhh)).

Sparkler - the overall label doesn't seem to matter so much, did you get foods that you like to eat (on your SWAMI)?  (Well the receptive part fits with Teacher anyway) Don't worry about hijacking this thread, Cristina is a great sport.  :)
Posted by: Sparkler, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 4:11am; Reply: 240
Foods I like?  More or less.   :P

I see in your signature that you're an MBTI intuitive.  I am too - ENTJ.

It's rough being us, isn't it?   :X
Posted by: Raquel, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 10:45am; Reply: 241
Quoted from C_Sharp
In the GenoType diet, the diets are sort of paired--with diet pairs being for people with common characteristics.

  • Hunter/Explorer
  • Gatherer/Warrior
  • Teacher/Nomad


One way you see this is in the supplement recommendations. Since the paired diets have common characteristics some supplements recommended for the pairs are the same (not all the supplements, just some).

The primary characteristic that the diet pairs share is a worldview.  Teacher and nomads share a receptor worldview.


So true, Im Nomad by the book but Teacher by SWAMI,  for me Supps. (Teacher) work very well. Synergist Nomad/Teacher (Omega 3/6 from flax seed )
is so good, before I tried some Omega3/6 and didnt feel ok.
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, January 2, 2010, 6:38pm; Reply: 242
Cristina,
I just finally dived into this long thread last night, and couldn't stop until I read the entire thing!   :K) It's wonderful that you are documenting your journey with the Swami, and I know it will help so many other people.

I just received my swami a couple of days ago, and I'm glad that I read your thread before I got into it.  Now I realize that the process can be some trial and error until we get it right.  Now I won't expect to be able to sit down and have it done with on my lunch break!!   ;D
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, January 3, 2010, 12:32am; Reply: 243
Quoted from Sparkler
Foods I like?  More or less.   :P

I see in your signature that you're an MBTI intuitive.  I am too - ENTJ.

It's rough being us, isn't it?   :X


Sparky, I like being intuitive, only get into trouble when I stop listening to my intuition.  Some people don't understand how I think though, that's their problem  :)  

Glad you got some foods you like, maybe some new ones to discover hey?  Lots of foods on the diet are still new to me but getting there.  Becoming an accidental chef is fun.
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:08pm; Reply: 244
Dear friends, I have so much catching up to do now!  So many interesting things going on in the forum!!Sorry I have been away for so many days, but it has been unavoidable.

2010 started as a roller coaster of situations and emotions that required the help of as many of my reset genes as I could summon!  The big mouth, loud, 'emotion controlling' genes (the bad ones) kept on pushing their way around, but thanks to the strictly compliance in eating for my type of the last few months, the good moderator genes took control of the situation and the crisis is now over!!  It does not matter what was the situation or why, but how I coped with it is what counts here.  Sometimes life happens that make us sad, or as Lola wisely told me, we make ourselves react sad to situations, but, we are humans, still struggling in our way to gene perfection and bound to trip and fall when least expected, but, as long as we pick ourselves up, it does not matter, they are all learning experiences.  I am talking strictly on a internal type of reaction here, no tripping on the diet or lifestyle at all!  I can assure you that this is the type of situation that in my youth would have caused me an ulcer (ooops, I did have a duodenal ulcer in my 20s!), but not this time.  Armed with knowledge learnt here about  the calming chamomile teas, the soothing of my dairy (Peccorino, feta, gouda and yogurt), the stabilizing effect of at least 6 cups of my live favorities (including onion, carrot, zucchini, leek, spinach ..), the comfort of the sprouted bread and diamond spreads (peanut, almond butter, barley malt, maple syrup), with the energizing boost from my fruits (blueberries, kiwi, pineapple, ...) and the support of turmeric, curry, basil, thyme ... and Teacher supps (yes, this was the one occasion I did have them everyday - my good genes demanded it!!), we rode the crisis OK, DH and I, of course his genes had been getting indirect help from my home cooking  ;)for both of us!!  ;).  OK, OK, glad everything is now behind and hubby and I can now relaxed and concentrate in ourselves.    

That is what we thought until this morning!  What a strange day this happened to be.  We find ourselves getting up at 4am to be ready to depart on a 125km trip to Brisbane at 5:00am to avoid traffic to be at this place with enough time to meet a deadline for a test (nothing to do with bodily functions, sort of material, building test).  Cutting a long story short we managed to get ourselves trapped in an elevator at 7:00am in the morning in a city complex, waiting for someone to open it for us.  I had been trapped in a strong room before at work (somebody locked it while I was still inside doing software stock taking, no pretty situation to find yourself in), so I tried to control those memories flooding in, sat on the floor and started nostril breading while hubby pressed the alarm button on the lift!!! We were rescued within minutes, after all, how unnoticed can a lift be in Brisbane on a weekday? Still, not a moment too soon if you asked me.  So, right on time, we took the sample to this lab, hoping it will turn out negative, but a couple of hours later the results were anything but negative.  Worry, apprehension, panic ...Once again, those rotten genes trying to have a feast on us!! Moderators, moderator genes where are you?  It was not until after the 125km trip back home, a few more hours of meetings, discussions, analysis and what not, that everything was resolved to our satisfaction and we could finally take a deep breath of relieve!! We celebrated by shouting ourselves 2 soyaccinos looking at the sea, eating compliant dory fish dinner with rutabaga oven baked chips (baked at home beforehand), and just appreciating what we have, and concentrating on the beauty of life before it passes us by ...

The moral of this story is that life happens, but we always have the choice of abandoning ourselves to it, or facing it the best we can by attending to us, me, myself, numero uno, and keep on fortifying those genes the way we are supposed to, because they are the only ones that can carry us through life in the best possible way ! :)   (hugegrin)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 1:26pm; Reply: 245
Quoted from Teresa S
Cristina, congratulations on your good lab results. Now you know your husband's blood group for sure.  Your son could be an "A" or an "O"  And yes, Lewis b-  is equivalent to "non secretor"


Finally my son took the plunge and did the blood test for grouping, lewis, MN and A1A2.  Except that the A1A2 and MN test results were never done by the lab because the doctor never wrote on the form specifically that that is what it wanted done!!  Now son has gone overseas, so no chance of knowing those for a while.  Will be surprised if he does it while overseas.  Never mind, at least now we know that he is a A Rh(D), le(a-b+) in other words, Secretor A positive, like me.

Looking at the characteristics, I think my daughter may be a A non secretor like her dad...

And if A2 are suppose to tolerate meat better, then my son is for sure an A2, i cannot guess what MN he may be though, not sure about the significance of those in our physiology or personality?

Piece by piece the puzzle is taking shape ... :)
Posted by: Teresa S, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 4:50pm; Reply: 246
Hi Cristina, glad you are here again.  Congratulations for having been able to use your healthy tools in difficult times. We missed you  :K)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 5:24pm; Reply: 247
(clap)

you are now wiser, stronger and more reset!!!
welcome back!
Posted by: Raquel, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 6:14pm; Reply: 248
Welcome Cristina , we missed you on Spanish forum!!! :K)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 7:17pm; Reply: 249
Thank you Raquel, Teresa and Lola.  I am still quite busy this week, but hope to be back in the forum as usual next week.  5am here and ready to go for a walk to the baach ... C U soon ... ;D ;D
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 7:29pm; Reply: 250
Cristina, happy to have you back :)..I missed you and wondered if you were okay.

You don't have to answer this if you find it intrusive, but how does one know that the issues they
are dealing with are related to genes? Whether it be the newly reset genes or prior dysfunctional genetics becoming silenced?

And just to be able to discuss this subject further in a general way for those who have had something similar happen to them, is this type of upheaval a predictable consequence of following a SWAMI or following the GTD?

I don't expect you to discuss specifics, I was just wondering how we would know to "blame" LOL
it on genes rather than just believing that stuff happens and we somehow deal with it.  And
learn from our own experiences.

Thanks in advance to anyone who can give me some insight here.




Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 7:40pm; Reply: 251
Dear Chloe, there have been different situations all completely independent of each other hitting us more or less at the same time.  Sometimes, it does not rain, but it pours!!  Some of it got to do with emotional crisis happening to those dear to us, some with lifetime decisions needed to be made that in a split second nearly ruined our financial security and normally would have caused us to completely break down.  This last thing came about probably in making decisions while still clouded by the emotional stress of previous week.  It has nothing to do with body tests, that is what I tried to explain.  One outcome of all this is that now, from this Friday I am officially retired!  New life era for me, supported by gene resetting lifestyle  ;D ;D
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 8:12pm; Reply: 252
I understand...We don't want to blame life situations on our genes....but I'm sure  we derive strength and fortitude from the stronger foundation we now have after we've re-set our genes.

It's been said "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger"..

Wishing you the best in your retirement.  :)
Posted by: Jenny, Tuesday, January 12, 2010, 8:39pm; Reply: 253
I missed you too Cristina :K)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, April 26, 2010, 5:48am; Reply: 254
Thanks Jenny and all!!  

Just an update on my progeny:

My daughter finally got her blood tests done and she ended up being a exact replica of her dad!!  Like my husband, she is a A1+, nonnie, MM!!

My son, on the other hand is tending to be the replica of me: A+ secretor.  Unfortunately the lab did not performed the complete MN and grouping tests, but I have the feeling he will end up being A2 and MN like me!!

My son's clinical tests came very normal on everything, but my daughter's is a little bit complicated.  We will be posting a new thread soon to discuss that.

Regarding myself, understandable I have put on some weight.  I think I was down to 84kg but now I am on 85.5.  Although I kept mostly compliant, I have been overeating and stuffed myself with organic peanut butter on rice cakes!  they have been my comfort food, day and night!  I tried not to neglect my vegies, so my onion, garlic, baby capsicums, turmeric, broccoli, carrot and zuccini had been my staple food with lots of  peaches and nectarines and red grapefruit when needed! Rice and quinoa were bulking up my plate most of the time.  I also ate more chicken than I should have (although still a bene in my list). So, all in all, not too bad, except for a couple of dark days where I find myself eating ice cream and crying a lot, my sins were mainly in overdoing it in the portion sizes (on the carb side of things rather than the good vegies one) and not exercising at all and finding very hard to meditate (sleep and relax)!!

Why did i not follow my own advice and came here for help? I do not know and I am not trying to find the answer to that, I accept that it is what happened and I am please I am on truck again today, and that is the main thing!

Will keep posting!! :) :)



  
Posted by: Possum, Monday, April 26, 2010, 5:56am; Reply: 255
Aww Cristina...anything we can do? ::) ??) :-/
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, April 26, 2010, 6:39am; Reply: 256
You are doing it already!  Travelling the same path.  Love your company!   :) :) :)
Posted by: Agathe, Monday, April 26, 2010, 7:09am; Reply: 257
Hi Cristina !
Nice to have you back.    :D
Posted by: geminisue, Monday, April 26, 2010, 2:57pm; Reply: 258
Welcome back Christina- so happy you are here, again.  Guess what, my son let me blood test him and He is an A+, and he is very interested in following it.  I am so excited, that he is!
Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Monday, April 26, 2010, 9:59pm; Reply: 259
Quoted from Cristina
My son's clinical tests came very normal on everything, but my daughter's is a little bit complicated.  We will be posting a new thread soon to discuss that.  


Not surprised at all!!! All it takes is just a bit of nonnie to shake it up 8)
Dont worry about the extra kgs, just start where you left off and all will resume. Physiologically speaking...

Glad you're back.
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, April 26, 2010, 11:02pm; Reply: 260
Thank you girls for your welcome!  GS, nice you were able to identify your son's BT.  He is in good hands too!
You are right C_J, that nonnie thing springing up again!!  Since I used the SwamiX I originally bought for her 25th last year  (she was not ready!!) for my husband, I now placed an order for one for her again.  Hopefully this time she will take it seriously and appreciate the real value of this gift.  I want to let her start the thread herself, she is a very smart young lady in control of her destiny, I know she will not have it any other way.  You will all love her!! ;) ;D
Posted by: Possum, Monday, April 26, 2010, 11:16pm; Reply: 261
Of course we will...she is your daughter ;)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, April 26, 2010, 11:43pm; Reply: 262
Great to see you're back!  :K)

Interesting how your children seem to have followed their parents in genotypes.  Sounds like the marble rolling down the hill the same way again.  Your daughter being complicated - well that's us women and goes without saying for nonnies too!  Hope we can all help her.

As you can see from my shield, I got my test results finally  ::) (Pathlabs) and "thanks to a little help from my friends" am doing really well now.

Have a question for you, when you changed to teacher I hope you got your beloved honey back?

Are you eating those beneficial cheeses?  Lovin' the cheese at the mo, even parmesan which I thought I didn't like but it was just the pregrated stuff is yuck, (yawn) a block you grate youself is yum. (drool)
I agree turmeric is great too, why not paint the world orange.  Lovin' my food choices and feeling great.

When I found out nonnieness wheat and corn had to go and that's the thing that made me so much better, of course.  Inflammation is way down.  So hope your daughter can do that, maybe switch to spelt while you're waiting for SWAMI.  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 12:54am; Reply: 263
Hi Symbi,

Glad you finally managed to get your tests done and Swamied!!!  Nonnie Explorer!!  We do have in common the Blood type and MN values!  Have you done your A1/A2 grouping?
Swami only gave me a handful of cheeses: Parmesan, Pecorino, Romano, Feta, Gouda plus Manchego, Muenster and Provolone which I do not know at all.  Yes, I also love my food choices, it makes it easier to stay mostly compliant during stressful situations.  I am so happy to hear you are now on the mend!  and I love your new photo too!  :) ;D :) :)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 1:08am; Reply: 264
C* I see you re still in denial on the label your swami gave you.....or was it a lapsus? ;D
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Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 1:40am; Reply: 265
Thanks for the reminder Lola.  I just did a re-run of my Swami and yes, it has given me the Teacher label, which I humble accept and you will soon see under my shield.

And to finish answering Symbi's question, yes, Honey is in my bene list with Barley Malt as the diamond sweet (not use it much though with home produce honey taking priority) and Maple syrup in the neutrals.  I only use a bit of  these though on my peanut butter rice cakes.  Coffee and carob are there as diamonds, chocolate as black dot and red wine as beneficial.  As I said earlier: Love my choices!   ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 2:08am; Reply: 266
thanks! :)
Posted by: Symbi, Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 7:18am; Reply: 267
Thanks Cristina!  It was nice to see your photo pic and many other familiar faces now on here which gave me that idea.  I also had a thread called Symbi's Swami but I'm really not trying to copy you! well I couldn't.  You write some great and very inspiring stuff.

There was a thread in little fishes where lots of people where wondering where you were and missing you but I searched and it's gone now.   :(  Someone found out you had a new pet, then we all guessed what kind.  Then when it was a dog I speculated that you would have gotten a big dog to be an intelligent companion.  

I read your thread about your dog, what a beautiful animal!  Certainly will keep you walking and fit, no choice about that.  Happy you got honey back!
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 7:52am; Reply: 268
Quoted from Symbi
I also had a thread called Symbi's Swami but I'm really not trying to copy you! well I couldn't.  You write some great and very inspiring stuff...


Write away!!!!  Please, you will not be copying me or anybody else, I am not doing anything new, many others done similar before ...  We just have to do what suit us and not let the assuming things stop us.  Follow your intuition or judgment, whatever suits best.  You, yourself are a wonderful inspiration for me and many here too, carrying your lot with cheerfulness and time to spare for others always.  Keep Symbi's SwamiX alive too!! and Metta's and Victoria's and anyone else who feels like recording their journey ...  I have to do mine because I need to and hope others see the good side of it too ...  thanks again Symbi for your kind words :) :) :)

Posted by: Symbi, Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 11:08pm; Reply: 269
:)  :) :):K)
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, April 30, 2010, 12:54am; Reply: 270
I couldn't think of what to call the thread so Symbi's SWAMI was it.  Not that original!   :P

I'm glad you love your new food choices and I love mine too.  So much more variety than the out of the book Explorer diet or even the BTD.  Knowing nonnieness is a gift and health has improved so much since knowing that.

Loving your food choices is a good way to know that you make the right selections in SWAMI Express hey!  Also when you get great results and feel good.  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, April 30, 2010, 12:58am; Reply: 271
Very true Symbi, very true indeed!!!  Glad it is all coming together for you too!  ;D :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 4:06am; Reply: 272
Well, I placed my order for a few protocol packs today, so with luck I should get them by the end of this week!  The immune boost, the healthy joint, the calm focus, hostonia custiguard, the gentle detox packs should find their way to our home soon!!  Oh gosh we need all the help we can get at the moment!!   :) :'( :) :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, May 4, 2010, 5:16pm; Reply: 273
And, just for the record DGD is now going through a middle year infection and onto antibiotics!  sounds very chesty too, although the doctor said it is clear there, just very mucky.  And ... we still do not know her blood type ...  patience, patience, nostril breathing and where is that Calm Focus pack?  Cant wait for it to arrive!!   ::) :) :)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 1:16am; Reply: 274
daughter to an A mom!! :)
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BLOOD TYPE FACTOID: While any blood type can have an ear infection (or recurrent ear infections), blood type A children (or even children who have a blood type A mother) are much more routinely affected.
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 10:08am; Reply: 275
No wondeer!!   :o :) :)
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 10:33am; Reply: 276
Quoted from Cristina
And, just for the record DGD is now going through a middle year infection and onto antibiotics!  sounds very chesty too, although the doctor said it is clear there, just very mucky.  And ... we still do not know her blood type ...  patience, patience, nostril breathing and where is that Calm Focus pack?  Cant wait for it to arrive!!   ::) :) :)
Well I guess it is May after all??!! ;D :D Seriously... Hope she gets better soon ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 11:52am; Reply: 277
She seems better today, I guess that is what antibiotics do, suppress the symptoms quick enough!!  Actually, I have to do a search around here find out previous posts on what kind of supps you can give to kids that young, particularly when you do not know their blood group.  ...   :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, May 7, 2010, 10:37am; Reply: 278
Today is Friday night here and my powerpacksupps did not arrived!  Guess they will be here next week!! Gina sent us today a home typing kit which we intend to use on DGD to finally determine her ABO.  At least that will give us a leg up on how to feed her to help her with these ear infections and chesty colds.  

I had a big kitchen cleanup today, reorganizing the pantry (in preparation for our new permanent guests), taking things of boxes and putting them in the glass jars I have been collecting.  Now everything is easy to find and handy for DD or myself to prepare our fares.  Tonight is the start of a new era on our lives...

The Teacher 3 pack is really helping.  Feeling positive, energized and at peace.  Those walks early in the morning down the beach with DH and Zuri are a treat!! Zuri is coming along very well, balancing our lives ...  

I had a quick peek at 'Aging, fight it with the Blood type Diet' and no surprising the diet Swami gave me is almost a carbon copy of what I should follow to maintain a youthful brain function  ;D ;D    It has also told me I should probably cut down a bit on the Dates ( I love them and tend to eat too many of them!).

I went to the chiro today for that follow up visit and she noticed great improvement, needing to fix just a couple of stiff spots (I know, i have not re-started my Pilates yet, too much going on!), she wants to see me in a fortnight and then continue with the monthly check ups!     Lucky one of us is bringing $$$ (DH  ;) ;) ), can still afford these therapies... I want to think that as time moves on, with all the gene resetting happening, this true to type lifestyle will be all the therapy we will need to maintain our youthful bodies. ;D ;D
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Friday, May 7, 2010, 11:49am; Reply: 279
Hey.. are you calling me short?.... ;)
I wish I was taller my O sister got the height.

Well if I was taller I may never have married Jeff cause he is just a tad taller then me and that would not have been good, he is my soul-mate. You should have seen him at the conference fingerprinting people he was amazing.


My Warrior daughter is 5' 2" and 90lbs. :) Maybe she was supposed to be taller but my poor diet kept her short.
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, May 14, 2010, 1:18pm; Reply: 280
Ok, the packs are here, they arrived early this week!!  I have been trying to work out some sort of plan as to what to take when, since I have a few things going on with me at the moment.  The good news is that flexibility has been restored to my neck, so I will take the Health Joints pack supps 3 times a week only, to coincide with the days I exercise most.  I decided that the Calm Focus pack with Histonia and Cortiguard supps are the ones my body will benefit the most at the current moment.  I am starting with a single daily dose to complement my daily Teacher pack.  Also, every now and then I have a Proberry cap to fortify my defenses against the flueish symptoms shown by the rest of the not=so compliant family!!

The wonderful news is that I am back to the weight I was a couple of months ago, before I went 'sideways' instead of forward!!  And it is not just water loss, I make sure to keep myself well hydrated and keep an eye on signs that may indicate otherwise!! ;D ;D  Is wonderful how the body recovers given the right environment and in a matter of days!

I have had Histonia and Corgiguard for only a few days now (since Tuesday) and I can feel the effects of it already!!  I do not know how to describe it properly, but there are changes happening with the way I process emotions and how attach or detach I get to situations.  Now,  eating true to type should also take me there, but the supps are acellerating the process, putting it together in a consistent way.  The supps are showing me the feel of a better health state, paving the way for me to recognize the signs easier when I am using just food, like being able to identify straight away the foods that take me out of this wonderful feel in me.  ;) ;) :) :)
PS: Just in case you get the wrong idea: I am still 100$ compliant 100# of the time (trying to anyway).   ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, May 20, 2010, 8:50am; Reply: 281
100% compliant 100% of the time, that is my focus, is what I meant to say with previous post!
Today is a special day!!! We finally got around to using blood typing home kit from NAP on DGD!!! and the result is: A negative!!

So both husband and I are A positives, DS and DD are both A positive, DD's daughter is A negative (as we just find out).  This probably means that her dad is negative something: maybe O negativer?, or AB negative? or A negative? with my daughter A positive they produced an A negative child.  It took a while for the first circle to aglutinate, but it did eventually! It started changing about 30 or 40 seconds, but not much.  A few minutes later it was more evident the granier look.  The other 3 circles stayed smooth full blood color.

At least from now on we will know what is the correct lifestyle for her!  Too young to genotype, only 4 years old almost, but the basic blood type diet will be the right thing to follow.  That is the impression I have got from previous thread here.   ;D :)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, May 20, 2010, 9:58am; Reply: 282
Glad to hear things are getting back on track & you are embracing this next stage of the  adventure ;) All the best!!!
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, May 20, 2010, 10:41am; Reply: 283
Thanks possum!!!  Ditto down there too!!  Hope the recent trips re-generate and re-energize you to deal with life under the shield of this lifestyle!! ;) ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 11:08am; Reply: 284
Today DD cook dinner and it was very nice:  stir fry salmon  and vegies (carrots, bok choi, onions) with basmatic rice and beautiful fresh salad with lettuce, celery, fresh carrots and onions, fresh peccorino cheese and a honey and lemon dressing.

But, as I sat with family and friend at the table, it was not just the meal I was savoring, but the fact that in preparing that meal, DD showed a lot of care in cooking it right for my type: she drilled me with questions like, can you eat tomatoes? can you eat salmon? is it OK to use microwave? can you eat basmati rice? And so, she made sure my salad did not have tomatoes, my salmon was stir fried with the vegies and not microwaved.  That was so sweet!!  But, the icing on the cake was that, although there was chilli sauce at the table for her chilli loving visiting friend, DD (a chilli loving soul herself), who was sitting next to me, turn her face to me and ask: I cannot eat chilli now, can't I?  And she smiled and continue eating her chilliless meal!! She knew the answer was no, according to her warrior swami lists.  

Today was perfect and I savor this moment as one of many to come ...  :) ;D :)
Posted by: Heidi, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 3:42pm; Reply: 285
Quoted from Cristina
  This probably means that her dad is negative something: maybe O negativer?, or AB negative? or A negative? with my daughter A positive they produced an A negative child.  


Maybe not. Both of my parents are Rh+ and they produced two Rh- children.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 4:56pm; Reply: 286
making progress!! :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 6:32pm; Reply: 287
Quoted from Heidi


Maybe not. Both of my parents are Rh+ and they produced two Rh- children.


Thanks Heidi!  So it goes deeper than i thought!   :)
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, May 23, 2010, 9:49pm; Reply: 288
Quoted from Cristina


Thanks Heidi!  So it goes deeper than i thought!   :)

All it takes is two parents with Rh(-) alleles, even if they are Rh(+), passing the negative allele to the child(ren).  The percentage goes up if one of the parents is Rh(-)...

Good on your DD...  She is learning to eat for her type in spite of previous likes.
Posted by: Possum, Monday, May 24, 2010, 12:24am; Reply: 289
Quoted from Cristina
Today DD cook dinner and it was very nice:  stir fry salmon  and vegies (carrots, bok choi, onions) with basmatic rice and beautiful fresh salad with lettuce, celery, fresh carrots and onions, fresh peccorino cheese and a honey and lemon dressing.

But, as I sat with family and friend at the table, it was not just the meal I was savoring, but the fact that in preparing that meal, DD showed a lot of care in cooking it right for my type: she drilled me with questions like, can you eat tomatoes? can you eat salmon? is it OK to use microwave? can you eat basmati rice? And so, she made sure my salad did not have tomatoes, my salmon was stir fried with the vegies and not microwaved.  That was so sweet!!  But, the icing on the cake was that, although there was chilli sauce at the table for her chilli loving visiting friend, DD (a chilli loving soul herself), who was sitting next to me, turn her face to me and ask: I cannot eat chilli now, can't I?  And she smiled and continue eating her chilliless meal!! She knew the answer was no, according to her warrior swami lists.  

Today was perfect and I savor this moment as one of many to come ...  :) ;D :)

That brought teas to my eyes :'(happy tears for you & your daughter... (hard to type right now)
Posted by: Jenny, Monday, May 24, 2010, 7:19am; Reply: 290
Cristina, how wonderful to have so many As around you...it must make meals, shopping and cooking so much easier. I don't think the + and - make enormous differences in the diets, unless they tip you over into another Genotype perchance?   xxx
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, May 24, 2010, 7:34am; Reply: 291
Well she is only 3 years old, will be 4 in august (DGD).  We have just find out she is A negative and I was just wondering how it may affect her diet?  I wonder if there is already a thread on 'feeding A children'?  If not we may start one ...  BTW, she is our DGD.

Thanks for your feedback.  Yes,  an A household makes life and shopping easier, even though we are a mixture of GTs, secretors, non secretors and now positives and negatives!!!  the difference is in the detail and that sometimes can be confusing and harder to retain, remember!  I still take my lists shopping, 2 warriors and teacher.  Sometimes is funny, not long ago I had some shopper approached me thinking I was buying for on-line customers or something, with 'such long shopping lists' ...  ;D ;D ;D ;D  I told her I was on the on=line BTD diet and gave her details of this forum!!!

I wonder if she ever came here?  You are looking good as usual (those lab results were very pleasing)...  ;) :) :)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, May 24, 2010, 7:46am; Reply: 292
That's great news!  Hope Metta feels better on the diet and I know you be relieved too.  You're lucky to have so many of the same type in your house.  Someone could ask you each what blood type are you?  Eh? Eh? (sounds like "A") !  :)

If she's an Explorer like me she may be able to have crushed dried chillies (neutral for me) and paprika.  I'm glad I can still have my favorite meal now homemade taco with lamb instead of beef and tomatoes are back, !, but will have to make my own tortillas.  That will be fun!  

Sounds like you may need to make a combination list somehow for shopping, maybe you could copy info from the SWAMI pdfs and compile it together into excel.  It would be good if SWAMI let you make a combination list from all the different members of your household (entering their SWAMI numbers).  I know it would be a lot of programming but would be good for all SWAMI'd households.  I wonder if someone may read this...
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, May 24, 2010, 8:08am; Reply: 293
Oh Symbi, as usual you are full of great ideas!!  I have done those combination lists many times, but with the GT changing in the past (teacher, warrior and sx teacher) I sort of gave up.  I should get around to it soon.  DD is a warrior, no doubts about it, at least for now, she even has the arches!!!  DGD, do not know, too young to tell, we used the home kit, so we do not know her secretor status either ... :)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, May 24, 2010, 11:43pm; Reply: 294
Yeah it would be difficult making those lists when your diet changes with your improving health.  :)

Glad to hear she's got a definite genotype (clap)(dance).  Does she have the longer lower legs and the elongated head shape?
I have arches too, on my eyebrows :) and on my fingers, but I'm an Explorer.  Also know Heidi has arches and she's an explorer too.  Man I spent a lot of time trying to measure my head shape, but the leg measurements also put me into Explorer and so many of the health concerns, except slow bowels which the arches point to (he he).  I think my Dad was a Warrior.  

I know two brothers that are so different to each other and it's amazing how epigenetics (what happens in the womb) and not just genetics is so important.  Have a good day!
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 12:08am; Reply: 295
She is only 37% warrior, but I say her needs make her enough warrior for Swami to label her that.  Early days though, see how she goes with it ...

Here are her SwamiX calculations:


 Your ABO blood type (A) is characteristic of Warrior.
 Rh positive blood type is often observed in Warrior GenoType.
Strength Testing, First Pass
 Caffeine insensitive /Characteristic of Warrior.
 Gynic upper leg space in women /Characteristic of Warrior.
 Two or more arch patterns /Characteristic of Warrior.
 Wide gonial angle /Characteristic of Warrior.
Strength Testing, Second Pass
 Characteristic A subgroup (A1) /Characteristic of Warrior.
 Ethnicity strength points /Characteristic of Warrior.
 Lactose tolerance /Characteristic of Warrior.
 MBI EI(E) Attitude suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Warrior.
 MBI JP(P) Function suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Warrior.
 MBI SN(N) Function suggestive of GenoType /Characteristic of Warrior.

:)
Posted by: Symbi, Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 7:10am; Reply: 296
I won't pick on you Cristina, because you've got a Warrior in the house!  Just kidding I wouldn't pick on you anyway.  ;)

The jaw, personality and coffee is a big sign.
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 8:36am; Reply: 297
Well, regarding the coffee, that is a bit neither here not there.  She says she can drink it without bothering her, she used to drink instant I think, but she does not drink coffee at all, she does not like it, she rather have a cup of tea, black tea (also bene with green and a few others) instead.   :) :)  

And symbi, there are actually two warriors in the house (DH and DD)  :)  but they are both nonies anyway, so you have nothing to worry about!!!  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, May 27, 2010, 5:40am; Reply: 298
I have just finished re-arranging my office area, which at the moment is sharing the space with our lounge/TV area.  Lots of furniture pushing, dusting, floor sweeping, packing / unpacking, with beautiful spa soft relaxing music in the background.  Time went by fast, started this morning, 6 hours of intensive housework.  Now, I am sitting at my uncluttered desk, with my tidy space, windows open, birds chirping outside against the inside soft music backdrop, sunny day, beautiful day, lots to be thankful for in life ... DD and kids are out, just hubby and I, he is working at his office ...  We are different but the same, bury our sorrows on work,  bad news today, his sister passed on ... poor soul ... big C took her in 5 months, liver ...  :( :'( Like Lola said, at least it was short suffering, consolation there for the ones left behind ...

It sort of makes you appreciate and value more than ever being in this journey.  It puts in perspective the great effort of keeping avoids out of our diet, that exercise routine going and the relaxation moments ticking ... Look at the alternative!!!  Yes, we have a lot of work ahead of us, pushing the avoids away, packing in the benes, shaking up the bones and lets not forget to practice the alternate nose breathing ...

Yes, a lot of work, but in this scenario, sounds like fun!!! Bring it on!!!  Down with those  bad genes!!!  No chance to get hold of this household!!!  Thanks again Dr D for  brighting up our future, thanks, thanks, thanks ...   (pray)
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, May 27, 2010, 8:45am; Reply: 299
Sad to hear that Cristina.  You are taking it well with your usual aplomb.  So right what you say about the long term benefits of a healthy lifestyle.  

Glad you rearranged the place, you're inspiring me to finish my rearranging here.  Going through all our storage and cleaning cupboards etc.  It's taking a while but we'll get there!
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, May 27, 2010, 8:51am; Reply: 300
Thanks Symbi.  All is good, those supps I recently got are helping us all ...

Life is beautiful as long as we do not mess it up ourselves ... That is why we are here, to maintain it as nice as we possible can!  ;) :)
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, May 27, 2010, 9:20am; Reply: 301
:)  Thanks for making me feel better, fighting off a cold / flu bug at the moment.  You've just rallied my immune troops I think!  :)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, May 27, 2010, 9:26am; Reply: 302
Oooh Cristina I only just saw this -was at work earlier... I am sooo sorry :'( Take care...& I hope your DH isn't too sad... At least, as you say, it was relatively quick ??) ::) :-/
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, May 27, 2010, 10:02am; Reply: 303
Thanks Possum, he is all right now, but it was a shock at first, we knew the doctors said only a few days, but it does not register that way really, specially since we were talking to her not long ago, mixed up with the doc, he told her no cancer, begnign tumors in the liver, then weeks, days later, his other brother there (Uruguay)  call us she is in hospital!!! and now gone!!!

Not being there, did not see the deterioration, have the feeling family kept it quite too, nothing else we could have done! but pray and we did plenty of that!.  Hubby is OK though, makes him think deeper.  She was only 55, younger and only sister.  Lost older brother a few year back at 40 something of heart attack!!  There are 3 of them now ... It has certainly activated compliance on him ... I think .... he says ... old habits ... is harder for some people than others.  Easy for me, clear as air (unpolluted, fresh one)!! Is it a secretor thing?

Can't be, you girls are compliant, you better be of this mamma jump out in front of your screen with the Swami list for your type  >:( ;D ;D

Symbi, is the change of season, temperatures have gone crazy, cold, hot, cold, windy, humid, dry,  have it all lately ...  Boost that immune system with some supps if necessary, lots of compliance ... Also, get away from the pollution down there and come here ...  Got a housefull at the moment, but plenty of room to throw mattresses somewhere somehow!!!

(hug) you both girls ... :)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, May 27, 2010, 10:06am; Reply: 304
Quoted from Cristina
Can't be, you girls are compliant, you better be of this mamma jump out in front of your screen with the Swami list for your type  >:( ;D ;D
;D ;D

Posted by: Symbi, Friday, May 28, 2010, 3:04am; Reply: 305
:) :) rofl  I'm scared I ate two black dots last night, whatcha gonna do to me Mum!

Thanks for the invitation!  That's sweet!  Will come and see you one day and explore the Sunshine coast as we haven't done that yet.  End of June we're going to Darwin though to see my Mum and it may be a while before DH gets time off work after that. (sunny) 8)

BTW I found some pimentos in Woolworths (may be of interest?).  They were sold in a pack of four under the name Capsicum Baby Red 250g (wee little things - used two in stir fry last night).  
They taste sweet like paprika unsurprisingly and didn't give me the burps which other capsicums do!  :) (neutral on my SWAMI)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, May 28, 2010, 4:56am; Reply: 306
(naughty)(naughty) about those avoids!!! Have any deflect handy?  Check those avoids, finding out why they are bad for you and that will give you an idea of how to counteract their action in the next few days of compliance!!!!  >:(

Thanks about the tip on pimento!! I have been buying those lately, they have them here too. I am glad you are on the same wave length regarding those because although bell peppers are beneficial to me, they are avoid for my nonnie hubby.  But Pimento is neutral for both of us, so far so good everytime I used them in my cooking ...  ;D

Nice about seeing your mum.  You will enjoy your trip to Darwin and be prepared, watch those avoids.  That will be the best time of the year to make that trip...
:)
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, May 29, 2010, 5:14am; Reply: 307
Thanks Cristina!  You're right.  I should get some Kelp which I read is a A nonnie lectin deflector.  Don't think I could afford the NAP products though.  :(

When you see how many diamonds, superfoods and neutrals I ate along with the two black dots you will be pleased and I only used the tinniest amounts of Tamari and Red chilli flakes for flavor!  :) http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1274890622/s-new/#num11
Thanks for caring.

Glad you got pimentos too they are gems!  Bell peppers beneficial bennisimo!
Lived in Darwin for 18 years but the heat and humidity even in June may get to me.  I felt trapped up there for many years.  Not anymore!  Mainly nice for little one to see grandma's house.  :)  

BTW Cristina we wouldn't want to put you out staying at your house, so one day when we come up there we'll stay at one of the resorts and will love to meet you.   :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, May 29, 2010, 7:01am; Reply: 308
It will be fun finally meeting!! ;D I have the feeling we will have a grand time, resort or not  ;) a true type grand time!!  .... ;D ;D ;D ;) ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, May 29, 2010, 9:23am; Reply: 309
Today I started brushing my teeth with the bi-carb soda and salt paste again, I had used the bi-carb before, but not with the salt.  My organic, super expensive toothpaste is finished and I am not going to buy another one.

I also started substituting soy milk with the super bene almond milk (home made).  I used that with our coffees.  

Last few days I have been pretty consistent with my supps, the teacher 3 pack, the odd cortiguard and Nap's B12.  I have also been taking Ocubright, to help my eyes.  The weather has been miserably here lately, and I feel I have been spending too much time  indoors looking at the screen!!

Something is going on at the moment with my body.  I feel great, strong, I feel that in my nails, but at the same time I feel like I am dehydrating ...  I have to pay attention to my water intake!!  Today I got a shock when I check my hydration status on my scales (one of those electronic ones that tell you a few things besides your weight): 41.9%!!! :o ??) The lowest I have ever been!!  Anything less than 45 they ask you to go swimming and drink, drink, drink!!!!   What is causing this sudden de=hydration? the weather has been cold, rainy, so, it is not the heat! mmm how many cups of coffe we had?  ...

Thinking back, I had chinese take away twice this week!!  Listed ingredients looked compliant, but who knows what the hidden ingredients may have been!!

Because I have not been out much, I have not been sweating either.  We have faithfully taken Zuri for her walks and let her run at the beach a bit, so I have not been a couch potato either, hardly watch any TV at all the last few days, or was it weeks? .. Maybe that spur of energy the other day with the re-arranging, furniture moving ... maybe I did not drink enough water then ...  

I am sitting here with my water bottle next to me!! sipping merrily and often!

Something I did a lot of today was meditate!  soft music helps me get into it and with the house to ourselves this weekend, I was able to do it whenever I felt the need.  It has been a bliss ...

I have learnt a lot from the forum these last couple of days: the oil pulling was one thing, never heard of it before, but, what an excellent idea.  I will try that first thing in the morning, before my lemon water!.  I will use Organic Sunflower Oil Cold pressed.  It is a neutral for me, but a black dot for hubby.  He will use the organic Apricot Kernel Oil we have, hopefully that will also work fine.  

Ah! I have also ordered the DNA test from National Geographic, very exciting ...   :)
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, May 29, 2010, 9:46am; Reply: 310
Quoted from Cristina
Today I started brushing my teeth with the bi-carb soda and salt paste again...
...at the same time I feel like I am dehydrating ...  I have to pay attention to my water intake!!  Today I got a shock when I check my hydration status on my scales (one of those electronic ones that tell you a few things besides your weight): 41.9%!!! :o ??) The lowest I have ever been!!  Anything less than 45 they ask you to go swimming and drink, drink, drink!!!!   What is causing this sudden de=hydration?

Thinking back, I had chinese take away twice this week!!  Listed ingredients looked compliant, but who knows what the hidden ingredients may have been!!
Could it be the salt?

Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, May 30, 2010, 11:38am; Reply: 311
Good point Possum, I also read that salt and baking soda could be abrasive and it is better to wet the stuff.  What I am doing now is coat a pickstik in it and use that to floss.  Then use toothbrush just wet, no paste, to gently go over my teeth.  Then, rinse mouth.  Twice a day morning and before bedtime, I follow up with oil pulling.  I try to floss after any meals, but that is not always possible.

It has only been two days with this routine, and I have noticed marked whitening of my teeth!! Even after drinking coffee daily!

We finished the Almond milk batch I did yesterday.  But today, by the end of the day, it has lost its sweetness and was not tasting as nice.  I have some more almonds soaking tonight, but I will use them in batches to make the milk.  Make enough milk for one day, keep the rest of the almonds soaking in water but in the fridge and make more milk tomorrow.  This way I have fresh milk and sweet soaked almonds on demand!!

That cancer and obesity video was a hit at my place today!! Thanks Eric!! My husband was showing it to our visitors and talking to them about BTD!!!! He is referencing his Swami a lot more these days!!  So, the path in this journey is widening and smoothing ahead of us,  beautiful ride!!

It must be the cold weather, but our main meals lately have shifted towards the evenings.  For the first time in quite a while, today I cook Spelt pasta for dinner. I served it with the usual chopped vegies (carrots, onion, garlic, pimento, zuccini, broccoli), celtic salt, ginger and turmeric.  I divided this base into two so I could add tomatoes to DH and kept mine with just the usual Tamari.  I used a combination of Parmesan and Gruyere grated cheese on mine, while I grated Feta and Mozzarela on DH.  Now Mozzarela is a black dot for him, but he loves his cheese and usually ends up eating mine that are avoids for him, therefore the lesser lectin ... ;)

Talking about lectins... Today I have been reading about Deflect quiet a bit and I now understand that taking it, is not necessarily restricted to eating avoids times!!  I know my gut must be ridden with lectins that have already attached themselves to my inside (the gut walls, cells, organs), invited over by years of not eating for my type.  Taking Deflect will help accelerate the results of being compliant because it will detach those lectins that have taken residence and eliminate them from my body.  Of course, drinking a lot of water will also speed up the process by providing the hydration necessary to smooth the exit routes.  ;) So, Deflect will now join my Teacher 3 pack, occubright and cortiguard as my daily nutrient ammunition!!

And, on the subject of hydration, my readings are a bit better today, but not quiet as good as hubby's: nearly 50% for him and he hardly drinks any water!!! Figure that?? Could it be water retention on him?  He seriously does not drink water.  I keep on reminding him, have a glass here and there.  He could be the whole morning in his office without drinking, except for the glass of water following his coffee drink!  While me on the other hand, do make an effort to drink and have my water bottle nearby .  My readings today were nearly 44%, much better than yesterday ...

Fix the inside get results on the outside!!  Will keep on posting progress!! ;D

Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, May 30, 2010, 2:17pm; Reply: 312
and Possum ... BTW, how do you remove white oil guk from my screen and keyboard???!!!  ;D ;D ;D True! lucky I was not doing the  'oil pulling' when I read your message!!!

Anyway, I should be in bed right now, but I could not sleep, and for once cannot blame hubby snoring, I do not think he has snored in the last few nights.  Well, that is a reflection of his diet improvement.  Back to me now.  For the first time, I think I had palpitations!!  Now, I have a feeling that having the B12 supp  after dinner tonight may have something to do with it.  I have had B12 in the past, and it always make me feel energetic! wanting to do things, alert, which is fine during the day, but not now.  ::)

Or it could also be the elimination of toxins process spur by my recent changes in oral hygiene (oil pulling) and the addition of supps ...

I have  just made myself a cup of chamomile tea with some honey and I also had one Tranquility Base capsule.  Ah! that should do it, It pays to be prepared!! What else was in the Calm Focus pack?  ... Attentia and B12!! Ding!!!, being an A with our typical stressful nature, I should include the Tranquility Base and Attentia whenever I have the B12 ... Something to ponder on ... Feeling sleepy again, time to go back to bed ...(sleep)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, May 30, 2010, 11:24pm; Reply: 313
I will keep on adding my progress to this post  to record my handling and results of  whatever it is that is affecting me lately, at least for the next 72hrs. unless of course I get feedback posts in which case I will move on.  :)

My puppy woke me up at 4:00 am as usual for her 'bathroom'visit.  We need to fix a puppy door so she can go out on her own!!  She is only 5 months now and putting on over 1 kg per week!  At this rate of growing, we might just as well train her to open the door herself instead of putting a large opening on existing door to fit her adult size!  ;D

Moving on, I felt pretty run down then, like the flueish  symptoms, particularly with my throat, sort of closing in. I reached for my immune pack: one Redoxa, one AraPlus and one Proberry.  Hubby made me a cup of ginger tea with lemon and honey, which I had while  checking this forum for further information on those supps.  Back to bed and meditate for, not sure how long, must have falling asleep again until about 7:00am, with Zuri demanding her morning walk!.  I first thought I would not be up to it, but wrap myself up anyway and off we went for a neighbourhood walk with hubby, but not before having my warm glass of water with lemon juice (from our own lemon trees ladden with lemons) and using a straw, followed by 'oil pulling'.  The walk was lovely, although still pretty nippy out there, but  you can see the beautiful sunny day developing and by the time we got home, I was feeling so much better.  

Drank about 2 glasses of water while preparing coffee.  We had it with soy milk this time, blender was in the dishwasher to make my almond milk.  A couple of rice cakes with peanut butter went down very well with the coffee.  I almost forgot to have my Deflect!! so I had it a few minutes later, hopefully was still in time for it to remove those lectin invaders so the good stuff can do its work inside!!  :D

Let's see what else is happening in the forum ... come back here later ...  :)

PS Nr 1:
Well, by 10am I felt so good and Zuri being like she needed exercise, so I decided to do another walk, on my own this time and different route. Drank a bit of water and off we went! Beautiful morning and surroundings out here, with plenty of trees and birds all over the place and the cooling sea breeze was heavenly!!  We walked quite a bit, I was feeling great! 1.5hrs later we are back home, drink more water and settled in with normal household chores.  Hubby wanted to have another coffee by 11:30am, but I thought it was too soon from the previous one and I offered him some yogurt instead.  We had it with compliant seeds, Goji beerries, prunes and peaches.  Yummy.

I then realized my symptoms had disappeared, no problems with the throat, seemed fine, and obviously feeling energetic again.  But now typing this I want to go back to sleep, that is what Zuri is doing at the moment, recovering energy with a nap!.  I added a home grown passion fruit to my fare too.  I have had no other supps since the Deflect this morning.  We will probably have lunch at 2pm using leftovers from last night with some other freshly harvested vegies and second dose of supps.  It feels so good to be able to do things with purpose, take the question mark out of a situation, being able to act on the spot before things escalate into something unmanageable and rip wonderful results.  That is the way I am feeling at the moment ...

Thanks Lola and Symbi for popping in.  I am answering your replies in the next posts and continue on from then on.  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, May 31, 2010, 12:39am; Reply: 314
Glad you're fighting the flu off.  And the road is getting smoother, "may the road rise up to meet you"  :)

Wondering though if you may be suffering adrenal fatigue.  Being dehydrated but drinking a lot is a sign of it.  Also heart palpitations and having energy when it's bed time (the adrenals have been sluggish all day and are finally working but it's too late).  If your blood pressure isn't high, maybe you could add some sea salt into your water a few times a day.  Fighting the flu would tire your adrenals so hopefully it's just temporary. Made me wonder when you got dehydrated after cleaning your study though that you may have overdone it.  

I'm reading Dr James Wilson's adrenal fatigue book and it's really good!  Ginger is a good help so good on DH making you a good and nice tea.

Dunno what oil pulling is so long as there's no risk of oil spilling out into the ocean it's probably good.  :)  Will search
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 31, 2010, 2:47am; Reply: 315
just beware with dental work......it might help loosen what you definitely don t want loosening
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, May 31, 2010, 3:39am; Reply: 316
Great advice Lola!! So far so good!  

Symbi, you probably by now would have find out (like I did recently) what oil pulling is: swirling a couple of tablespoonfuls of oil on your mouth for about 15 minutes!!  Until the oil comes out white!!!  It is suppose to clean your mouth, fight bacteria and be good cleansing hygienic oral thing to do at least twice daily.  There are lots of threads mentioning it in this forum and some great detailed explanations around the web.

Thanks for the heads (what was I thinking? legs?!!! :D ) up on adrenal fatigue, and if that is what it is, I hope is temporary too! I use salty baking soda paste for my flossing, and use salt in my cooking, only good old celtic salt! But, I may try to drop a few grains of salt on my next glass of water.  Check my Ps nr 1 update on the last post, I think the supps seem to be doing a great job at the moment too.   :)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, May 31, 2010, 9:15am; Reply: 317
The mailman brought the National Geographic DNA test kit!!  They also called me to inform me that they will refund the male test which I cannot use in Australia!! I think I posted somewhere else that I had ordered both (male and female dna), but being  a woman, I can only do the female test.  Men, on the other hand, can do both! I do not have any direct male relatives in Australia.  My only direct living relative is my bro in Texas, Houston.  he will have to the test for the father side.   I will perform the (mother side) test tomorrow morning and send it away.  We get the report via e-mail within 20 days!!  How exciting!!  I still have to ask my brother to do the parental one in Texas!!  ;D

We had last night's leftover dinner for lunch at about 2pm this afternoon.   Added some lentils to the mixtures to extend it a bit more.  Served with our compliant cheeses!!   I also had my second lot of supps: Deflect and the Calm Focus pack (B12, Attentia, tranquility Base) and cortiguard.

The kids arrived this afternoon and we also sat down with them to have dinner at 6:00pm: basmatic organic rice with 'mama's sauce base (pimento, red onion, carrot, celery, turmeric, celtic salt, ginger, vegemite, tamari and home-made chicken stock).  Added bok choi and fresh parsley from the garden, let it simmer for a few minutes, and presto!! Served over the  rice.  Since I already had spelt pasta earlier, my serving this time did not have the rice, just the yummy vegie sauce with a bit of Parmesan cheese.  Supps with dinner included Deflect and Proberry caps.

I ended up not having a nap this afternoon, so I will try to go to bed earlier tonight...   :)

PS: I have just done my flossing and oil pulling.  I will now do some meditation.  Looking back at the last couple of day, AF or not, this all have to be good for my journey towards optimum health!! That thought alone is so comforting and relaxing  ..., :)  
Posted by: Possum, Monday, May 31, 2010, 9:28am; Reply: 318
Dinner sounds yummy!! Hope you get the early night you need... ;) I'm heading off in a minute due to DH being in a different time zone still... ;)
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 31, 2010, 3:32pm; Reply: 319
I simply had both kits sent to my brother s doorstep in NY!!

if I would have asked him to do the ordering, I would still be waiting for my results!! :)
hope your brother is a bit more cooperative and enthusiastic about the whole project.
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, May 31, 2010, 9:31pm; Reply: 320
With my brother in Houston, Texas, which one do you think will be best company or test lab to approach for him?  I will be paying  from here, he will do the test, but I want to have access to the reports either on line or sent directly to me.  You can PM me Lola.  Thanks
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 31, 2010, 9:47pm; Reply: 321
simply follow the national geographic link and give your brother all the necessary instructions on how to proceed
ask him to give you the password so you can also look up the results
no biggie
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/genographic
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 10:42am; Reply: 322
Thanks Lola. i talked to my brother and he is very willing to do the test.  We will have to work the logistics of it at some stage soon.

Today, I did not do any walking or relaxation, somehow it was a rushed day! With cooking, shopping and cleaning, chatting to family overseas and browsing the forum every now and then, and doing research on this and that, the time went fast!!  I was able to keep my focus on compliance and my supps on schedule.   Once I realized the walking and relaxation were not going to happen today, I substituted the Teacher 3 pack for the  Calm Focus  pack (once), plus Cortiguard , Histonia and Occubright.  I had those once during the day.  I also had Deflect 3 times, after each main meal.

I am doing the oil pulling now, after flossing, and at the end of another beautiful Teacher day.  My meals today were:

Breakfast: home-made granola (home stone flaked oats, sesame seeds, honey, olive oil, vanilla paste, mixed together, spread on a oven tray, warm for a few minutes or until desired golden consistency and serve),  with soy milk .  A few minutes later we had soyaccino with honey.

Snack was a few nuts and seeds with a couple of dates.

Lunch was rice cakes with tuna slices and olive oil

We had a very early dinner (4:45pm): basmatic rice with onion, carrot, capsicum, arugula (or sweedes). Served with a turmeric, ginger, thyme, celtic salt, tamari, vegemite and chicken broth sauce with sprinkle of compliant cheeses on top.  

The diet is definetly working, my clothes are still lose and I did not have any cravings at all today, I do not think I have had cravings for a while!   and I feel energetic.

The lesson for the day for me today was that I may not have been drinking enough water after all!!! According to my weight I should be drinking nearly 3 litres and I can only guarantee up to 1.5 litres.  So, I have now filled 4 x 750ml glass bottles and I have to drink them all by the end of the day!!

I also  had my scales figures all mixed up! The 41% I was so hard trying to get up to at least 45%, was actually the body fat percentage which I should try to get down to 35%.  The body water percentage is actually sitting at around 40% and should go up to at least 45%!!!  Thanks to DD who helped me decipher that one this afternoon!

I am somehow amazed as to how easy has been to arrest whatever it was that was affecting  me the other night!!  I had always been a pro-home remedies person, and when sumptoms of flue or cold were creeping in, I always had countless tablets of vit C, garlic, and horseradish tablets, plus teas, honey, lemon, and wrapps, and eucaliptus leaves steaming in the house to clean the air ... But, although they ussually worked and avoided the trip to the docs and antibiotics for most times, it will still take a few days to fight things off, not hours!! Also, this time I did not have to swallow as many tablets either, as indicated in these posts ...  

Back to forum for a bit of browsing and see if I can close the day with a nice hour of meditation before bed time ... :)

Oh, something else before I go, my husband just pop in to ask me what to have for a sore throat, while DD was searching my bag of goodies for hers.  According to them, I am the Doc in the house now ... I think I will wait a bit longer before I explain to them that SwamiX is the real doc in this home!!! supported of course by a worlwide forum team and supervised by the chief himself, Dr D.   I have the feeling it will not take them long to realize that for themselves ...  In the meantime I am having fun with the tittle mama doctor  ;) ;)  ;D ;D
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 10:59am; Reply: 323
;) :D
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 8:09pm; Reply: 324
FYI and oil pulling.  I did it for many months.  It managed to "remove" all the dental bonding I had on
two teeth.  Oil pulling can remove fillings and caps as well.  Just giving you all a heads up in case
it suddenly happens to any of you.  There is an old (really good thread) on this forum about OPing if
it's still here.
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 1, 2010, 10:20pm; Reply: 325
Chloe, thanks for the heads up.  It certainly brought my legs down to earth a couple of posts back, if you noticed it then  ;) ;)

Will you still recommend oil pulling, but instead of swirling a hurricane, just use the calmer actions of an oil swell?   :)
Posted by: cajun, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 12:02am; Reply: 326
To Cristina;
I believe I am a teacher also with A2 BT and same age and gender as you. I am very interested in doing the National Geographic Test and am curious. Would you have any Celtic ( Irish, Scottish) and French ancestry? I plan to do the Swami soon and the NGT when I can afford to.
Cajun from California (sunny)
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 12:20am; Reply: 327
Quoted from Cristina
Chloe, thanks for the heads up.  It certainly brought my legs down to earth a couple of posts back, if you noticed it then  ;) ;)

Will you still recommend oil pulling, but instead of swirling a hurricane, just use the calmer actions of an oil swell?   :)


I recommend oil pulling from a perspective that it's capable of cleansing on a very deep level...
so deeply so that it attempts to remove anything foreign in the process and tries to help the
body to dispose of it.

It isn't about the intensity of pulling...It isn't about the time spent pulling...It's about the concept
of oil pulling that takes anything that doesn't belong and works on getting rid of it... and you might want to read about it here.

http://www.oilpulling.com/


Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 12:25am; Reply: 328
Quoted from cajun
To Cristina;
I believe I am a teacher also with A2 BT and same age and gender as you. I am very interested in doing the National Geographic Test and am curious. Would you have any Celtic ( Irish, Scottish) and French ancestry? I plan to do the Swami soon and the NGT when I can afford to.
Cajun from California (sunny)


Do you know you're definitely an A2?  Most A2s ARE Teachers, rather than Warriors...but if
you're a nonnie, it's possible you could be an Explorer.

And as you can see I am an A2...and I have absolutely no known Irish, Scottish, French ancestry.
I'm Jewish with ancestors from Russia, Poland, Hungary and can't figure out how I got my A2
subtype.

From the book ER4YT, Dr. D says A2s came from the Brown Eyed Laplanders..and could have
been Vikings.

Guess all groups of people got divided...I just wish there was much more to learn about A2s...
Very little information out there.

Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 12:56am; Reply: 329
yep,
fair warning to all, no worries! :)
http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1253598354/s-324/#num315
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:18am; Reply: 330
Thanks for the info Chloe, I was checking that thread this morning, very informative and useful!!  Now i know I have to still clean my mouth throughly after OP and it will be OK to use olive oil, and only with a couple of teaspoon, not tablespoons!! and of course away from food!!! and better understand the technique in doing it.  There is also this Oil Pulling Report thread which I intend to report to, once I have done it for a couple of weeks.  Since they seem to report OP as good teeth whitening strategy, I may even stop flossing with the baking soda/salt mixture, or do bs/s flossing only once a week and rely on OP for most.  

Cajun, yes it sounds like we have a lot in common, so also with Chloe here.  Regarding my ancestry my grandparents and great grandparents came from Italy on one side of the family and from spain on the other.  But in saying that, you never know, there could be connections everywhere.  I am looking forward to the DNA ancestry report to pinpoint the migration route of my ancestors.  If you can do it and then we can compare notes! :)  You too Chloe!! :)



Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 1:43am; Reply: 331
Beautiful sunny day this morning, at least it was early in the morning, a few clouds developing now ...

We went for a walk down the beach and Zuri had a good run after not doing the right thing by her (and us!!) yesterday.

I decided to make the granola cereal last night, but I over toasted it a bit, too much on the golden side of things.  So we used it this morning as finger food, on our way to the beach before breakfast.  Of course, I had the usual salt/baking soda floss and oil pulling.  Rinse my mouth very well after that.  Also had my lemon drink and drank quite a bit of water so far (on my second bottle).

We had our usual cappuccinos with rice cakes and peanut butter and honey (2).  

My supps so far:
Calm focus pack, histonia and cortiguard, pro-berry caps, ara plus and today I included the Genoma DetoxiCal-D to boost my calcium intake.
It seems like a lot of supps, but, they are all right for my type and I am smarting up to them.  I am using all the help I can lay my hands (mouth ) into to get me to my ideal weight as soon as possible.  I had been pretty stubborn about taking supps, so this is a reality check!  ;) ;D :)

It has been over two hours since my last meal. No hungry at all.  I feel like trying another oil pull exercise, this time with Olive oil and if I feel sleepy I can have a nap ... or may take Zuri for another walk ...  :)

I am keeping an eye on my BM, tongue, skin, hair and nail conditions.  I will report on these weekly. ;)

PS nr 1:
Well, I did the extra oil pulling this afternoon, but instead of Olive Oil, I used Flax seed oil.  I hold it in my mouth for amost 15 minutes, but when it came out, it was still yellow with a white foamy thin frame around.  Does this mean that the enzymes in the Flax seed oil are not strong enough to pull toxins out? I will do the one tonight with Olive Oil, to see if there is any difference.  

For lunch we had leftover rice from last night, which was a bit on the salty side I say, had an accident with the salt shaker cover and its contents falling into the dish!!  Tried to remove as much salt as I could and balanced by adding more vegies and lentils, which it sort of worked.  Finished with a huge amount of food.  What is not eaten tonight will go to the compost, get it back later on with my vegies ;)

Supps:
I had Deflect with lunch.

Now I wonder if it is Ok to eat soon after oil pulling?  

and ... I  did have a nap after lunch!  Meditated a bit and then fall asleep!  Woke up refresh and with a feeling of fullness.  Not hungry at all, may just have yogurt and fruit tonight for dinner ...

We had cappuccino again with hubby this afternoon a couple of hours after the nap and then I could not say no to a cup of green tea offered by dear daughter!!

So far I down 3 of my bottles of water.  I still got one to go before retiring to complete my water drinking quota.  It has certainly required my full attention to keep it up.  I do not count the caffeine drinks, like coffee and tea as part of my fluid quota, most of these tend to de-hydrate you anyway.

I have done my swab DNA tests and I will post them tomorrow. I am looking forward to the unveiling of that puzzling part of my heritage! :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 2, 2010, 10:54am; Reply: 332
Well, just to close the day.  I did not eat anything else since the afternoon green tea, but I am not hungry at all!!  I have had lots of water, more than usual, a few moments ago finished my 4th bottle of water to complete my water requirements for the day!!

I used Olive Oil for my before bed time OP.  The color changed from the normal brightish yellow to the opaque light yellow with the white foamish frame.  I managed 20 minutes this time (forum browsing, but still very relaxed and thinking on the pulling thanks to that ability we women have to do many things at once!!).

It is about 8pm, time for meditation and bed.   :)

PS: something made me check my supps again, and Detoxical-D is mainly a detoxifying supp, to balance hormones and help liver function.  If I want calcium supps, I will have to get Clear-Cal. :)
(One of my shift keys does not respond well to my touch, hence the omission of capital letters here and there, so bear with me). :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 1:16am; Reply: 333
Great start for the day today.  Flossing, oil pulling with Sunflower oil and by 9:00am I already drank 1 whole bottle of water!!

We had our 1 hour walk at the beach again and our puppy had plenty of exercise there!!

I tried to go to sleep early last night, but hubby started coughing and I decided to get up and do my 'doctor' thing again:  I made him a hot ginger, lemon and honey tea, and gave him Redoxa, AraPlus and Proberry Caps supps.  While he settled drinking his tea in bed, I decided to make Spelt bread using the machine version recipe from recipe central: http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?50 .  By 11:00pm, the bedroom was quiet again and it was time for me to hit the blankets!!

This morning we woke up to the beautiful smell of the bread making, and when we settled down for breakfast, WOW, we got blown away as to how well the loaf came out in taste and texture!!  We had a feast of it with ghee, honey and peanut butter!! With our soy capuccinos.

My supps for breaky: Deflect and Occubright

As you can see, I am a lost case to keep things on schedule, I am continuously changing, swaping, mixing, substituting things up.  But, over a period of time, things add up to what they should be ... It is all part of the healing process ... teaching the mind step by step ... the important thing for the time being is to use the stuff, go through the actions, even if they are a bit out of synch, as I progress in this journey it will get easier to stick to routines ... :)

Ah! and husband is 100% well!!  No sign of coughing, or sikness, he is feeling fantastic!!   and feeling the effects of doing the right thing to himself ...

Dr D's monthly newsletter arrived today via e-mail and it has fantastic information on gastric health and the important of feeding the right beneficial bacterial to our gut.  So, it is not just a matter of eating yogurt, to draw the most benefit, it has to be the one cultured with the right for your type bacteria!  or supplement with Polyflora ... Back to the forum to do some research on it ...(book2)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 3:48am; Reply: 334
It was an eggy lunch today.  I realized we have not had much eggs lately so I mixed 4 eggs from our own free range hens and mixed them together (the eggs, not the hens) with chopped parsley, sage and some drumstick tree leaves harvested from our garden, plus garlic, turmeric and salt.  Dipped 4 rice cakes and a sliced of the home made spelt bread in it and cook it on a fry pan with a bit of ghee!!  I have got the idea from somewhere in the forum about using rice cakes as 'French savory toast' type of food. So yummy!!

Supps with lunch: Teacher 3 pack for me and Warrior 3 pack for hubby - (Forgot about Deflect).

I am half way down my 3rd bottle of water and it is not even 2pm!! Lovely day outside, Might take the kids and dog for a walk when they get home from school! :)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 4:37am; Reply: 335
yep, wise Sharon was the one!! ;)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 5:15am; Reply: 336
Quoted from Cristina
It was an eggy lunch today.  I realized we have not had much eggs lately so I mixed 4 eggs from our own free range hens and mixed them together (the eggs, not the hens) I see you are awake to us?? with chopped parsley, sage and some drumstick tree leaves harvested from our garden, plus garlic, turmeric and salt.  Dipped 4 rice cakes and a sliced of the home made spelt bread in it and cook it on a fry pan with a bit of ghee!!  I have got the idea from somewhere in the forum about using rice cakes as 'French savory toast' type of food. So yummy!!

Supps with lunch: Teacher 3 pack for me and Warrior 3 pack for hubby - (Forgot about Deflect).

I am half way down my 3rd bottle of water and it is not even 2pm!! But not here?? ah ha..I am having visions of one Cristina stuck in a bottle - ala I dream of Geni? Lovely day outside, Might take the kids and dog for a walk when they get home from school! :)
your dog goes to school??::) That bread sounds divine!!
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 5:38am; Reply: 337
;D ;D actually, she does (the dog) goes to school. puppy school and tonight is the night!! the kids got back late from school, doing chores with their mum, so we did not have the promised walk, but I do not feel bad since tonight, both Zuri and myself will get plenty of exercise at Puppy school!!  ;D ;D
Posted by: cajun, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 6:40am; Reply: 338
Cristina and Chloe,

Thanks for the info. I am anxious to start the Swami and National Geo tests! It will be interesting to compare with both of you as I am French on both sides, Irish and Native American on Dads side and Scottish, Jewish and Italian on Moms. Fascinated by all of this.
I am also trying the oil pulling. Anything to relieve chronic sinusitis and excess mucus.
Enjoy hearing what other A's are eating....

Cajun(sunny)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 11:48am; Reply: 339
We managed to get some dinner at about 5:30pm before puppy school.  DD cooked lovely pad tai noodles with vegies!!  Beautifulllll! Yum,yum!

Mmmm, that 3rd bottle of water took me all through puppy school to get finish and now nearly 8:00pm I still have an almost full bottle of water to get stuck into!!   ;) ;) I may need some genie help here Possum!    ;) ;)

Supps for dinner was a Deflect for me.   I am feeling so full, cannot think of eating anything, gulping some water while I am typing this ...

The scales are stuborn!! I think I may need to get more sweating exercises in my routine.  Start Pilates again!!! The hydration value has started to creep up though, so that is good news, all that water drinking is starting to pay off.  Still a bit under the minimum value recommended for women, but I should not guide myself too much by those figures.  What else can I use as a guide?  I googled and visited a few websites discussing de-hydration signs and I do not have any of them.  I suppose I can also use the look and feel of my skin: Elbows sometimes feel dry, in the past I had to use creams or oils to keep them nice and smooth, I do not use any of that now.  A few days ago I did noticed them on the dry side, but now they are pretty smooth, without using any moisturizing cream to help! hair looks shiny, nice and soft, and I do not use any shampoo or conditioner either, just lots of brushing before showering and good water massage and nice cold water rinse!!  My combs are always dipped in tea Tree water solution, and I rub a bit of lavender oil after combing.  

So no de-hydration then, but, could I be drinking too much water?  That can also be as bad as de-hydrating!!! I am guided by that rule of thumb recommended in the forum a few times: take your weight in pounds, divide it by two and use that number in fluid oz to drink water! I convert this figure into metric litres: about 2.7 ...
BTW, I also google 'drink enough water' and came across some calculators that came up with a similar recommended drinking fluids value.  2.7 is the minimum recommended for me, that is with me doing 0 exercise and being healthy!! Any exercise adds at least an 8oz glass of water for every twenty minutes!!  I am keeping an eye on the water front and monitor my progress.  

My family love the bread so much, that I am making more tonight.  I will make the same spelt bread from recipe central, thanks whoever posted that beautifullllllll recipe!!  But I am also making a yeast free one from the internet:

http://www.passionatehomemaking.com/2008/05/no-yeast-spelt-bread.html

I have 8 cups of flour soaking in just over 2 cups soy milk, 2 cups plain yogurt and 1/3 cup honey.  I started soaking at 4:30pm, so it will be a 24hr soak, by the time I get up tomorrow morning to finish it off.

Looking back, I did not do any relaxation/meditation today and did not have the Calm Focus pack either!  Lets see how I sleep tonight!!   :)

Flossing and oil pull coming up as usual and I now have less than half a bottle of water to finish my quota for the day!!  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 9:26pm; Reply: 340

This is the Spelt bread made using the forum recipe as indicated in my previous post. Yum!!!!  ;D ;D
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 9:40pm; Reply: 341
that s some fine looking bread!! ;)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 9:56pm; Reply: 342
Sure is!!!
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 3, 2010, 10:30pm; Reply: 343
Thank you guys!  We really enjoyed it this morning!!  It is already half gone! :o

With all this excitment, my 24 hr soaking mix for the next loaf, it turn up to be a 28hr soak.  I have just put it on the machine with the 'no yeast ' setting and a light crust.  It should be ready in about 1.5 hrs.  This is the one 'no-yest' spelt bread from that internet link I posted above.  Will report outcome when it is done!

In the meantime, we have not gone for our usual walk, I have not meditated so far, have not drank any water, but for a glass with my Deflect tablets and breakfast was, well, do I need to tell you?  Spelt bread slices with ghee and honey and a soy capuccino with Bonsoy milk!!!  May not be the most healthy start for the day, but the atmosphere at home has been re-energising, worth the 'pit stop' on the journey.  This is me now, signing off to do some serious catch up to save the day!!!   :) :)

PS: one thing I did do religiously, is my warm lemon water drinking first thing on wake up, and my oral hygiene - the floss, oil pulling with sunflower oil and throughout mouth rinsing afterwards ! ... and I did have a nice sleep last night!!
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 4, 2010, 12:41pm; Reply: 344
Oh well, what do they say? Win some, lose some ;) That soaking flour bread making experience turn out to be a whole day affair to make something edible out of it!!!  The bread came out too dense and doughy, like not completely cooked, so back to the bread machine it went, to bake a bit longer (my machine lets you do that)!  That was not enough, so I try to cook it some more in the oven!  Still doughy and now crust harder too, so I cut a few slices and tried to fry-dry them in a dry pan on the stove, muttering all the time: I am going to make something edible out of you!!! I am not ready yet to feed my lovely bene spelt to my worms!!! Nothing worked, so as a last resort, I de-crusted the mess by pulling the persistent doughy mass out of the ever harder with each attempt of rescue crust, and decided to make a bread pudding!

I put the doughy mess in a bowl, covered it with soy milk and almond pulp from my home made almond milk, added a couple of eggs, molasses, honey even sugar, whip it altogether, put it in a glass tray in the over for an hour and prayed that something edible comes out of it!!  Took it off the oven when ready, let it cool down and into the fridge it went, in the hope that it will make a nice dessert for tonight!!  ;)

I served it then with yogurt and honey.  DH ate it, but he eats anything I offer him these days, whether he likes it or not,  I think he is convinced that if it comes from me it is healthy and good for him!! (blush) ;D  So I suppose that does not count!!  DD and DGD went to bed early, so they did not get a chance to be given the choice to try it, DGS was watching soccer with grandpa and he said he will try it.  He  took a mouthful and timidly asked me if he could spit it out!!!  :X Now, him I do believe!!  I think this one is going straight to the rubbish tomorrow!!  >:(I will spare myself the humillation of having the hens and worms spit it out too!!  ;D

I take this as a learning experience,  except that this time, I am finding it a bit hard to figure out what it is I have learnt from this experience.  ??) It was not meant to be that complicated!!  All I needed to do is use the right ingredients and follow the instructions as lay out in the recipe link.  But, It was late at night and I was tired, therefore I did not read the instructions too well,  I was in a hurry, so I used the bread making machine while the instructions asked for careful manual handling of it ... I was too busy with something else, so I forgot that the flour was soaking ...  No surprise I ended up with a gooish mess!!  To make matters worse, when I saw the mess, I did not want to acknowledge it, and I kept on trying to dress it up, to cover it up in one way or another, making this learning experience, an expensive one and to no avail ::).

By now  if you got to read this far, you probably have seen the resemblance of this experience with what sometimes we seem to be doing with our lives.  We have the best recipe in our hands in the form of personalized reports for our lifestyles to  lead us to optimum health, but at moments, some of us, seem to skim through the report instead of studying it, we then blindly rushed through its instructions  instead of being diligent in its application and we act like time is always on our side!!  But, is it really?  Do we want to run the risk of making a gooish mess of it all?  We have the recipe, all we have to do is use it the way we are supposed to.  When we do that, we are guarantee the promised results, like with the other bread I did earlier, the yeasted spelt bread from recipe central, trusted and tested recipe.  All I did then is follow the instructions and you saw the results in the pics!!  ;D... is not rocket science!!  or maybe it is, but not in its application ...  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 4, 2010, 7:48pm; Reply: 345
It is 4:30am and still dark outside.

The family finished the day yeserday on a high note watching the movie 'Its Complicated' (kids excluded, they had settled in bed of course) ;D Great fun, nice way to work out the earlier kitchen wooes out of my system!

I am the only one now doing the oil pulling after my early morning and before bed time floss routine (using sunflower oil). I think hubby does it occasionally, but him and DD are mainly relying on tooth paste for their oral routine.  Like I said before, I am  not using toothpaste at all. I am mainly flossing with the pick-sticks dip in salty water and then rinsing with plain water. My teeth are looking good, and feel smooth, so, so far so good.

Today though, I think we may be reaping the consequences of that 'let down the guard' behavior which allowed wheat to sort of take centre stage in our meal plans yesterday!!  My non secretor family is asking me how come I do not seem to be affected at all by their fluish symptoms?  Well, it could be that secretor thing of mine, but also the fact that I have been 'true to type' in a consistent way, longer than they have!! I still think I ate too much wheat yesterday though, after so long without wheat (there we are again, thinking excuses!!), and on waking up this morning I felt that 'throat' hint that warms me to be extremely compliant from now on!!

Yesterday Supps: Immune pack for myself DH and DD.  Nap has a product called Collinsonia Plus to support sinus and throat.  I have that on order to help my non secretor side of the family to control a bit more their throat and nose issues.  We also all had Deflect and I included Occubright for myself.

I have just finished a ginger, lemon and honey cup of tea and in a few minutes I will be doing the floss and oil pulling, do some meditation while waiting for daylight and then go for a walk  with our puppy, she is so cute!!  ... :)

Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 4, 2010, 8:23pm; Reply: 346
I just want to add my 'water drinking ' experience so far.

For half of the day yesterday I hardly drank any water!! forgot, did not feel thirsty, having too much fun, busy ... and by late afternoon, even after I started gulping down bottles of water, I could see the difference in my body:  

The tips of my finger looked creasy, like when you have been in water for too long, they are usually nice and round and smooth!

My 'water' was a lot darker than usual! That was scary, it changed to the lighter colour once I started drinking more water!

My hydrating value on my electronic scales had gone done below 40% (45 recommended minimum!!) and my fat content to 43% (35 max)!!

Because I was drinking water in great quantities, in a hurry, to balance the sodium up, I added a teaspoon of celtic salt to one bottle.  I think I heard Lola recommend this before and after my earlier research on the subject a few posts back, I now have a better understanding of why this is needed.  It is making it clearer now, why my weight may not have been moving as fast as expected!!  The heavier we become, the more water drinking is needed to keep the body properly hydrated, but our thirst needs do not move at the same rate, so we keep on drinking the same or less than usual, because now we tend to be less active, more lethargic and probably less compliant in general.  We are clogging the elimination routes!!  It is my understanding now, that we should be keeping a watchful eye on our weight so we can keep the hydration equation tipping in our favour!!   :)
Posted by: cajun, Friday, June 4, 2010, 10:02pm; Reply: 347
Cristina,
Could you tell me where to get the recipe for the lovely bread you pictured? Is it wheat and yeast free? I would love to try it!!!!!
thanks,
Cajun(sunny)
Posted by: Lola, Friday, June 4, 2010, 10:02pm; Reply: 348
next time, if ever, slice it, cube it, toss in a drizzle of olive oil to cover and toast to perfection.....croutons!!!

this second batch is full of so many beneficials and diamonds.....

try soaking some pieces in beaten egg, and fry like faux french toast, serve with thin slices of compliant cheese on the side

I hate throwing away food :-/
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 4, 2010, 10:19pm; Reply: 349
So do I Lola, so do I ... and I tried that... soaked it in milk and egg and more ... but that gooish, chewy, gluish, thing showed no improvement.  Normally if you put something on the fry pan, it supposed to get dry!!  Then we could have used it as croutons as you said, but this thing kept its doughish texture ...  no good ...  It is buried somewhere in the property now, as far away from my chooks and worm farm or compost bins as possible!!!  :)

Cajun, the bread picured above is made with Spelt wheat and uses yeast.  I posted the link to the recipe a couple of post before the picture one.  I also posted the link to the no-yeast Spelt bread from the internet I was trying to reproduce.  I am sure if you have a look at recipe central you will find there no yeast, no wheat bread recipes.  Have you seen the flax meal one, that is easy, yummy and yeast, wheat free!!   :)
Posted by: cajun, Friday, June 4, 2010, 10:32pm; Reply: 350
I found it! Allrecipes.com? very simple spelt bread? Will give it a go tomorrow. thanks
Cajun(sunny)
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 1:38am; Reply: 351
Or was the beaut bread pictured this recipe?  http://www.rwood.com/Recipes/Spelt_Bread.htm  
This recipe is mentioned a lot on the forums, Mayflowers and Ribbit recommend it, me too thanks to them.  It is the first spelt bread recipe that I used and it's lovely.  Does get a little dry after freezing as I do though.  Now I know when freezing bread, cover it with foil to keep the moisture in and then plastic wrap or a container.

Or was it this "Very simple spelt bread": http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Bread-Machine-Spelt-Bread/Detail.aspx

The very simple spelt bread recipee http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Very-Simple-Spelt-Bread/Detail.aspx sounds a bit like the no yeast recipe that you linked to above Cristina.  Those soda bread recipes are like cakes really and you can't knead the bread or it turns into Goo! Also danger of not rising evenly if the raising agent is not spread evenly throughout.

Sounds like you and family are going well.  We've all got sore throats and some of us coughing here at the moment, it's going around, I take elderberry juice along with other berry and apple juice.  Notice they are selling elderberry capsules at chemists now.  Better than flu shots IMHO.  Naturopathy is catching on everywhere, even woolies have herbal cures for flus and colds now.   :)

More Spelt bread recipes!

See here http://www.4yourtype.com/grains.asp (have you seen those articles under helpful articles http://www.4yourtype.com/articles.asp that:

    “Since spelt does not absorb as much liquid as wheat, a little more spelt flour is needed when substituting for wheat. This produces a finer crumb in cakes and muffins. I use about 1/3 cup extra flour for every 3 cups in a recipe. I have also noticed that I am more satisfied with my results when I use a heavy liquid ingredient, such as butter and buttermilk, banana, winter or summer squash, carrots. Cookies made with spelt flour are often dry so I couple spelt with another grain such as oats which hold more moisture.”

Good tips hey?  You probably already know this though ;-)

Recently made spelt pumpkin scones and it was amazing!  Then I made Spelt loaf 2 from here http://www.makeitandbakeit.com.au/spelt_bread.htm with cooked pumpkin, ghee, honey and some nutmeg.  It was alot less dry than the original and slighly orange with a nice flavour.  

The other day made the best banana spelt carob pecan muffins.  Will put that in the recipe database soon.  

You remind me my kamut bread (I was slack and bought some - it's very heavy but nice!) has nearly run out so I should bake some more spelt!
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 1:51am; Reply: 352
My fault Symbi, I think I must have added the link to the beau bread recipe to one of the posts you had already read!!

Quoted from Cristina
...  While he settled drinking his tea in bed, I decided to make Spelt bread using the machine version recipe from recipe central: http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?50 .  By 11:00pm, the bedroom was quiet again and it was time for me to hit the blankets!!

This morning we woke up to the beautiful smell of the bread making, and when we settled down for breakfast, WOW, we got blown away as to how well the loaf came out in taste and texture!!  We had a feast of it with ghee, honey and peanut butter!! With our soy capuccinos.
...


Quoted from Cristina
...
My family love the bread so much, that I am making more tonight.  I will make the same spelt bread from recipe central, thanks whoever posted that beautifullllllll recipe!!  But I am also making a yeast free one from the internet:

http://www.passionatehomemaking.com/2008/05/no-yeast-spelt-bread.html

I have 8 cups of flour soaking in just over 2 cups soy milk, 2 cups plain yogurt and 1/3 cup honey.  I started soaking at 4:30pm, so it will be a 24hr soak, by the time I get up tomorrow morning to finish it off. ...
  :)


Well, we know what fiasco I managed to make of that no yeast, spelt bread.  I have not given up, I will try it again soonn ...

Thanks for all those links, I have been to some, but not others,  always new things to discover everywhere ...  family doing well, except for the few sniffes here and there, but in general we got it under control ... good thing is that they are all looking up to me now, ... holding on very well indeed!!   ;D

Sorry you are also going through these winter nuisances ... nice to know what artillery to use to combact them though ...  ;) ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 3:45am; Reply: 353
I forgot today is Saturday! very seldom go for walkies so early on weekends, hubby is available all day, so we do it later in the warmth of the day.

I have not done my morning meditation so far, I promised myself I will do at least 1 hr of it per day, so I have to find time later in the day.

Breakfast was a  nice soy cappuccino with organic rice cakes (from my last visit to HFS) plus organic peanut butter and honey.  That was fairly early in the morning.

Our supps then: Occubright and deflect for me.  The rest of the family had their immune pack dosage.

One hour or so later, I served some organic yogurt (not home made), with a handful of compliance seeds and dry fruit: flax, pumpkin, sesame, chia as well as goji berry and honey.

We have just finished lunch: omellete made up with two eggs, some bok-choi leaves from our garden and a couple of spoonfuls of my vegie mixture.  I made this mixture with rutuguba, pimento, carrot, zuccini, onion, turmeric and salt, cooked on a cast iron saucepan with a bit of ghee and some hot water to give it a bit of saucy texture.   Only cooked it for a couple of minutes and let it sit for a few more minutes while the omelet finished cooking. Still have some left over mixture for tonight's dinner.  I divided the omelet in two and enjoyed it sprinkled with my compliant Parmesan and gruyere cheeses, while hubby used cottage and his black dot mozarella ones.

Did I tell you that this is a beautiful sunny day here and I am feeling fantastic again!! :) ;D

I am down to my 3rd water bottle ... so far so good ...  ;D

PS: and my supps for lunch were: The Teacher 3 pack plus Deflect!! :)
Posted by: Symbi, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 4:59am; Reply: 354
That's okay it's good for me to look around for more spelt recipes.  Recipe central lol.  Should have known.  Great fun!  Don't have a breadmaker yet and really enjoy the hands in dough experience.

Yes it's another beautiful day here in paradise.  Just going to take G out the backyard to play.  Just did her eldoncard blood test.  She's a O Positive (and I suspect an explorer but I know we can't really tell at this stage).  So glad to finally find out.  DH though is avoiding the jab.  Better watch where he sleeps!  :-)

G being an O explains the temper tantrums!  Also how she quite likes lamb and red meat.  Will have to make some really good spelt flour to get her away from wheat that will be tricky!  

Also got one for my Mum to find out what type she is when we go to see her.  I suspect she and DH are Os by personality though.  Enjoy the day!
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 10:02am; Reply: 355
Life is so much easier when we know who we are (biologically that is) ... Nice feeling to know for sure what our dear ones are, it empowers them and us to help themselves the right way, compatible with their system.  Good on you Symbi in getting that extra kit for mum!!

We went to the beach late this afternoon before dinner, lots of people and dogs there! unlike the early mornings ... We had a ball though!!  Good walk and fun for the 3 of us ...

Dinner was take away ...  vegetarian rice noodles with tofu and vegies.  Nice!

supps: Deflect!

Still on my 3rd water bottle, but we are planning to watch 'live 3d french open tennis final' tonight, so there will be lots of opportunity for drink up!! (water, that is) .. ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 5, 2010, 7:48pm; Reply: 356
I woke up as usual at 4:15am this morning, although this time I felt this fighting urge to cough and that funny throat tingling again!!!

Did I not have similar episode the norming after having take away the other day? Too much of a coincidence!!  That it is for me!! No more take aways for a while!!

Also, looking back at my supps intake yesterday, I was the only one that did not have the immune support pack, so guess what I did a few minutes ago! Took my Redoxa, Ara Plus and Proberry caps!! Obviously there is this thing going on around here with colds and flues trying to grab us all, so I better keep them up a bit longer.

I practically fall asleep on the chair last night, trying to watch the tennis(too late for me), so I ended up going to bed without doing my oral hygiene of flossing and oil pulling!! I tried to catch up first thing this morning, did the oil pulling and i could only do it for under 10 minutes and it came out white and still thick!!  Try to do it a second time but did not last long either!  After rinsing my mouth throughly, I had the supps and made myself a ginger, lemon and honey tea and I am feeling much better now!  Since I have done a bit of browsing around the forum already, I will do my meditation now waiting for daylight ... it is fairy cold again this morning (although for some of you these temps will be like summer!)  It is all a matter of perspective, relativity, context ...  :)

PS nr1: We went for a walk to the beach before breaky !!  Beautiful day.  Had coffee (soy) at one of the cafes there and a couple of raisin toasts !! Butter and raisins are both black dots and all wheat is neutral including gluten, so it may not have been the perfect breakfast but it felt good and we enjoyed the outing!

Supps: Deflect

I am reading about obesity in the encyclopedia, some sort of intuition ... :)
I cooked vermiccelli rice noodles with a sauce made with the leftover vegie mix from yesterday and the last of the turkey stock I prepared earlier in the week.  Added some zuccini, carrot from the stock and spiced it with curry powder and Tamari.  Hubby thought we were having the leftover noodles from last nights chinese!! He was amazed how yummy the dish tasted.

Supps: Deflect

We had another cup of coffee, rice cakes and peanut butter for a mid afternoon snack.

For dinner hubby had the left over take away (I refused to eat it), while I settled with plain organic yogurt, a couple of dates, dry goji berries, chia seeds, sesame seeds, sunflower seeds, pumpkin seeds and plenty of lecithin over the top: no honey!!
Supps: Deflect

I had been a bit gassy today, it could be the effect of having a few deflects a day which as expected is doing is eliminating job: removing old toxins and fending off the new offending lectins (from yesterday's takeaway and this morning's black dot butter and raisins)!! ...

My water comsumption is on target! :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 6, 2010, 11:11am; Reply: 357
I had been re-visiting ERFYT encyclopedia studying the weight loss protocols.  I have also been re-reading the Teachers diet Dos and Donts from the Genotype book.  I am more enlighten now as to why certain foods are in my Swami lists and the importance of including variety across all food groups!!  I already knew that  in an intuitive way and I have been trying to follow the principle, but now, it is not just intuition and it is not about trying any more but doing it!!

Looking back at these posts which are sort of journal entries, I can see that when it comes to carbs I am stuck on a one horse race: rice (noodles, grains, rice cakes).  I have kept the gates closed on all the other participants in the carb race: Spelt grain (which only recently made appearance), barley, quinoa, oats, buckwheat!!

I know this is not healthy and I understand why: I am not allowing the food to be my medicine so that food can perform its gene-methylating role to improve my genetic genetic makeup and food can increase my metabolic rate to speed up weight loss!!!!  amongst many other good things!  My food lists have been designed to do that for me, I have to implement them in my daily meal plans.

I discussed this with hubby, looking at our Swami X reports and the need to up our game!  We also need to increase the consumption of fish, vegie protein and live foods.  We do have quite a bit of live foods, but whether we reach the quota on a consistent way, is, most days, a guess work and not a sure thing.

I have to go back to my early day systems that were working so well but got left behind, because I did not need them any more  ::) ... time to do some serious planning, studying, designing... I can see some re-arranging of the pantry and fridge coming up!!! :)

Do you want to know what really prompted all this?  Hubby discovered an old document from my work dating back march 2006, it was one of those employees health checks for work.  That was over 4 years ago and my weight and measurements then were exactly as they are today!!  At first I was shocked!! Talking about long plateaus, this must be the record!!  4 years!!!...It got me thinking... as if time stood still ... except that I was on the way up then in a journey that took me to another extra 12Kg!  until 9 months ago, when I entered this path and I had a couple of quick jumps down (about 12kg so far) and although in the last few weeks it has slowed down to almost a halt, I have not only reversed the trend forward but started the internal healing process.  So, time did not stood still, this is no a platteau, although it may seem that way to the uninformed, there is progress being made on the inside and it shows on the outside too, although not necessarily on the scales.   ;) ;)  All I have to do now, is take a couple of deep breaths, build and put systems in place around the house and my life that will facilitate the journey  ... :)


Posted by: Lola, Sunday, June 6, 2010, 7:10pm; Reply: 358
you will succeed!
Posted by: Jenny, Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:19pm; Reply: 359
I know what you are saying Cristina.... I think we get a bit complacent once we get going with the 'program'... I know that I must go back to my weekly food planner as little no no's creep in so easily.. and with winter upon us in the Southern Hemisphere it is too easy to have second helpings and comfort food. It is truly wonderful to have a partner such as you have who understands and supports your way of life.Keep at it! 8)
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, June 6, 2010, 10:32pm; Reply: 360
Ditto for me!! Sometimes I have been just happy (complacent?) that I am not increasing...but I do need to lose more... ::)
Hey well done on that 12kg loss Cristina ;)
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, June 6, 2010, 11:08pm; Reply: 361
Great idea looking back at patterns and keeping track.  Getting the big picture.

If you feel better on the diet that's a major improvement IMHO and the weight loss and all is a bonus that will happen when you feel good.

Glad to see you're going to add more protein I've been seeing your daily diet and wondering a bit - where's the protein?  Remember there was an old show on tv - Peter Russel Clarke.  He used to say "where's the cheese?"  You get the idea.  Being an explorer the protein content would stand out to me.  Where's that horse?  I'm getting hungry for breakfast - nah quinoa and millet this am.  Yum!
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, June 7, 2010, 10:06am; Reply: 362
from Jenny
Quoted Text
It is truly wonderful to have a partner such as you have who understands and supports your way of life.Keep at it!


thanks Jenny and hubby sends you a big Thank you too!!  It seems he has really turn it around!!  He is trying to be so careful.  His skepticism seems so far away, I am really enjoying the atmosphere at home now ...

Possum, thank you!!  We will get there as Lola puts it ...

Symbi, spot on! that is what we noticed too as you can see...

I spent most of the day today, researching and figuring ways to make this work better, been working on a few ideas which I will put in place on trial and share here the one I settled with.  Need to do some shopping ...

Today was a 'no supps' day.  I want to give myself a day off because i can ... see what reaction I had ... Not much, except that for the first time in days, I felt a bit hungry, like having the munchies, went for the extra (you guessed it) rice cakes and peanut butter, and my own trail mix (seeds and nuts).  The lack of supps and the fact that we had a small walk this morning, not usual long one could have affected my hunger ...  or the lack of protein intake in the last few days catching up with me ...

Have you noticed how the symptoms could have been avoided by doing the right thing? Keep up with the exercise, have a balance diet, ...

We had drunch (lunch and dinner together) at about 3:30 or 4:00pm, beautiful turkey legs with my vegie concotion of carrots, garlic, onion, capcicum, chicken broth (home made) and peanut butter.  Served on a bed of steamed basmatic rice.  That was some protein catch up!! Yummy!!  I first boiled the frozen turkey legs in water with some vegies, near the end of cooking added a few drops of lemon juice and salt to the water.  Removed the already cooked legs and put them in the pan with the vegie mixture, let it simmer for a few minutes and switch off the stove, resting it for 10 minutes or so.  

We have leftovers for lunch tomorrow (that will make our twice a week Swami poultry quota), and I also have a whole pot of turkey broth to use in many dishes during the week!!

I have done some meditation today too, I will probably make myself a cup of chamomile soon and go to bed early.  We have both been sleeping well lately ...

Floss and oil pulling still being done twice a day, morning and evening (well floss a few times during the day to disloge food from unwanted places and then rinse with plain water.  I have noticed such improvement on my teeth, so bright and whiter!  Also, I have stopped using bi-carb soda and salt altogether.  I will use salt again if I notice any 'mouth problems', but otherwise, I am quite happy with the OP effect!!
:)
Posted by: Possum, Monday, June 7, 2010, 10:16am; Reply: 363
Quoted from Cristina
We had drunch (lunch and dinner together) at about 3:30 or 4:00pm, beautiful turkey legs with my vegie concotion of carrots, garlic, onion, capcicum, chicken broth (home made) and peanut butter.  Served on a bed of steamed basmatic rice.  That was some protein catch up!! Yummy!!  I first boiled the frozen turkey legs in water with some vegies, near the end of cooking added a few drops of lemon juice and salt to the water.  Removed the already cooked legs and put them in the pan with the vegie mixture, let it simmer for a few minutes and switch off the stove, resting it for 10 minutes or so.
Love the "drunch" ;D Do you have a crockpot? Might make it a bit easier for you & you still get heaps of stock...& no steam filling up the house...

Posted by: Cristina, Monday, June 7, 2010, 10:53am; Reply: 364
I have been doing some reading regarding 'waterworks' and its relation to water intake.

Apparently our water works should have some colour, like yellowish, that is an indication that waste is being carried out of the body with urine.  If the water works are clear, no colour at all, it may mean that we are drinking too much water or there is a problem somewhere with the elimination process.  

Now, taking the opportunity that this was a supp free day, I decided to put some theories to the test, pacing my water drinking for part of the day and gulping water a couple of times.  trying to drink the 4 x 750ml water bottles! When I paced myself for a few hours (with the water drinking), sure enough, the colour produced was yellowish, on the lighter side.  Then I drank almost a whole bottle in one go (had to push myself doing that, awful), next time I went to the toilet, the water works were colourless.  This experiment make me think that the slow, but sure pacing of water drinking through the day, will be more effective in eliminating toxins from our body than the gulping down water here and there, sort of 'drowing' effect, passing through too fast?

Here is one of the links I visited, they are all pretty much the same.  Interesting thing about the smell as well ...

http://medicmagic.net/know-your-health-from-urine-color.html

Interesting journey ...  :)
:)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, June 7, 2010, 10:59am; Reply: 365
Quoted from Possum
Love the "drunch" ;D Do you have a crockpot? Might make it a bit easier for you & you still get heaps of stock...& no steam filling up the house...



Ahh, but the steam is what makes the whole thing much more worthwhile!!! We had a few trades people doing some work for us (chopping down just enough trees to put a new garage in), and when they came to the house to give the bill  :'( he could not resist commenting about the tempting smells coming out from the house!!!  Nice, he said, very nice ...  ;) :) :)

My crockpot not big enough for the 6 legs (turkey  ;)) and the amount of stock for the week ...  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, June 7, 2010, 12:18pm; Reply: 366
Turkey is the bomb!  Sounds yummy, gobble, gobble.   :)  Thanks for reminding me, I want to try one of those Turkey legs soon would make a nice roast.  I cook turkey mince often.

Wasn't saying that I follow my SWAMI perfectly either - I don't think I get enough veggies, though I try. Meat I couldn't do without.  Actually was vegetarian years ago and was sick and craved meat a lot.  Being an Explorer explains so much!  

Good idea supplement-free day and checking the toilet is very informative  :o  :).  Will read your link about the plumbing thanks.

We had baked Hoki fish tonight with herbs, garlic, mozzarella and ghee.  Glad little one likes my baked fish.  Used to give her fish fingers but she doesn't like em as much as my fish. :)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, June 7, 2010, 6:59pm; Reply: 367
Quoted from Symbi

We had baked Hoki fish tonight with herbs, garlic, mozzarella and ghee.  Glad little one likes my baked fish.  Used to give her fish fingers but she doesn't like em as much as my fish. :)


That sounds yummy!!!  and, she is a clever girl and knows mum's cooking is not only nicer, but good for her!!!  Great job  :)Symbi!!
Posted by: Possum, Monday, June 7, 2010, 10:09pm; Reply: 368
Glad you like our fish symbi??!! We used to live on fish fingers when our son was a baby ::) Somehow I rarely found time to cook!! Imagine??!!

Cristina; that must be a smallish crockpot??!! ??) I can fit 5kg of turkey thighs in our large one!! And I don't add any liquid - just use (& dilute) what comes out the meat... Now must go wrestle the size 4 turkey that is sitting in the kitchen, into the pot... No onions this time ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, June 7, 2010, 10:38pm; Reply: 369
Yes, I should really invest in a new one ...  will put it on my 'to check' list ... bigger crockpot ...

We just came back from our beach walk this morning, hardly anyone there, my toes were screaming for warmth, so we started walking in the water ... so nice, so much warmer than outside!!  Lots of fun for Zuri and very relaxing, re=energizing walk for us.

AM Oil Pulling: I did about 15 minutes with Sunflower oil (neutral) and about an extra 10 minutes with Olive oil (SF)...  This time the OO changed consistency and color: almost white and very foamy, so it looks like OO can also do its job... might just use OO from now on ...

Went to bed at about 9:30pm last night and Zuri got me up at 4:30sh this morning! It is turning to be cold and cloudy out here.

Hubby still sniffing and I say going through a process of elimination, but feeling fantastic.  He is now paying a lot of attention to what he eats and the reaction on his bodily functions the next day ... I love it and him!!!

Kids are home again this morning and DGS is staying home off school with tummy ache and vomit.  Dear GD still very chesty, I believe they have been back to drinking milk while away ... Seeing dear ones suffering the consequences of not eating right for their type, is giving me incentive to keep this up!! How important is to be healthy!!

My supps so far today for both of us included the immune boost pack and Deflect.  Also, drinking water in smaller quantities, more often ... on my second bottle now ...
:)

PS: Did I mention that little one is with ear ache again?  That A thing striking again !!!
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, June 7, 2010, 11:20pm; Reply: 370
Hope you're using good water bottles my friend.  Cheers!  http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/Concerned-About-Drinking-Water-From-a-Plastic-Bottle-Youre-Not-Alone-903387.htm
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 3:30am; Reply: 371
All glass bottles here, i do not use plastic to store food (liquid or solid) at all, remove everything from packages when I get home from shopping!!   ;) ;)  Thanks for pointing it out, it is a good head up for everyone!!!  Cheers ! ...

BTW, I had a beautiful 1hr massage this morning!!!  I needed it, sort of fighting a headache and now it is just about gone!!!  Thanks Aideen!!

That turkey and rice dish from last night was beautiful at lunch time!!!

Supps: Teacher 3 pack and Deflect, I have not yet, but I think I will have Occubright soon, that could help get rid of this headache I am fighting (eye strain?)...

I am making the Spelt, yeast bread again, have to check my post here for settings on the machine ...  I should have Attentia too to help this memory ... What GT is the one  with cognitive issues? Forgot!!  ;) ;) ;D ;D

Will report back later ...  :)

OK another PS, hope you will not miss it!
The Spelt recipe I am making is using 3 cups of Spelt white flour Organic and 1 cup soy flour (it is a diamond in our lists and I have not used it much, it is rated higher than tofu and soy beans themselves).  The rest of the ingredients are as per the instructions in recipe central, except I am using ghee instead of butter and doubling the ingredients!!  I have set my machine as light crust and basic loaf.   Looking forward to having some this afternoon with a ginger and green tea cuppa!!!  It is still cloudy and cool outside.  house is warm though .. :)

Here is the link again to the recipe: http://www.dadamo.com/typebase4/recipedepictor7x.cgi?50
Double up quantities, use Ghee instead of butter and use machine settings as indicated in this post.
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 8:40am; Reply: 372
The bread came out very well indeed.  Not as high as the one in the photos a few posts back but high enough, just below the top of the bread container.  The texture is a bit more dense and the taste a bit blander than the previous one made with only spelt flour (no soy flour).  I think that next time I use soy flour with this recipe I will add a bit more salt and one more tablespoonful of molasses.  

DD cooked dinner for us tonight, beautiful Atlantic salmon, with stir fry vegies and steamed basmatic rice!!!Very, very yummy!!  DH and I down a bit of red with that too!!

Supps: Deflect and Occubright

I finally located the sourdough/fermenting permaculture course notes, so I may get started with the  process of creating my own culture tonight.  Will post process in its own separate post as I go along, starting with the next post.   :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 9:21am; Reply: 373
Ferment Bread project:

I do have the Nourishing Traditions recipe and many others from the net which I have not tried yet, but my permaculture teacher makes the most beautiful, tasty, light fermented bread, so I am following her recipe adapted to my type:

Step 1 - Adaptation from Permaculture RealFood  starter:

1 cup Spelt Organic white flour
1 cup organic Soy milk
1 cup organic yogurt

Mix together in a bowl until all lumps disappear
cover bowl with tea towel tied with rubber band to the bowl
set it on top of my wireless router overnight (nice and warm spot)

Ok why not, I am also starting one inspired by  Nourishing Traditions recipe (no milk) and the PR above:

Step 1 - Cristina's (adaptation) starter:

1 cup Organic, Spelt flour
1 cup warm (rain) water
1/2 cup yogurt
1 tbsp marley malt

Mix together in a bowl until all lumps disappear
cover bowl with tea towel tied with rubber band to the bowl
set it on top of my ip phone box overnight (another nice and warm spot)

Now so that I do not get mixed up and forget later one, the smaller bowl is the one with the water starter, the bigger bowl (both stainless steel), is the one with the  soy milk starter.  (Tie the string to the finger!!)(shhh)
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, June 8, 2010, 7:12pm; Reply: 374
thanks for typing it out! :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 2:52am; Reply: 375
ferment bread progress 1:

Those were stainless steel bowls, I have since, transfered the mixtures to glass jars, to keep an eye on their progress, easier to see.  The one with the rubber band has  the soy milk mixture, the other one has the water mixture.

I am suppose to stir them every so often and leave them ferment for a few days, watching their texture, smell ..

Strangely enough, after a few hours, the water mixture has thicken up a lot more than the soy milk mixture, yet, at the start, the water mixture was a lot more runnier than the soy milk one.  :)

Both mixture shown a few bubble holes indicative of some activity.  I have given them a couple of stirs so far ...

Smell wise, I do not notice any difference between the two, they both smell floury/yogury to me ...  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 3:08am; Reply: 376
No walk today, interrupted night sleep.  Got up (both of us) just before two am. Had a drink, meditated and back to sleep til 7:00am this morning.  No problem to go back to sleep, so that was good, but , it is 1:00pm now and we still have not done our walk, will fit it in later on.

Soy/Spelt bread featured for breakfast this morning and in kids lunch boxes. It combined very well with green tea and cappuccinos later on.

Before that I had the usual lemon water and early morning oral hygiene done including floss and OO OP .  

It is amazing what a few hours of no dairy can do for recovery to DGS.  He is off to school like his usual cheerful self.

Weather is beautiful and sunny here today.

Ooops, no supps so far ... lunch comming up, bok choi and omelet.  :)

PS:
Lunch was omelet with freshly picked bok-choi, drumstick leaves, parsley and lettuce leaves, all chopped up with onion and garlic (ghee too). Mixed with about 6 smallish eggs and into the pan.  I also used celtic salt, turmeric and ginger as condiments.

My supps: With such a compliance meal, I did not take Deflect.  I had Teacher 3 pack, Occubright, attentia, cortiguard and the GT multivitamin.
Hubby: Warrior 3 pack and GT multivitamin

My water intake had been low, and I notice the difference!! Sort of nausy, but it dissappears when I drink.  I notice my 'waters' got a bit on the dark side of yellow, so heads up and bottles up!!  Got to watch it!!! It is all good, though. :_


Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 6:56am; Reply: 377
ferment bread progress 2:

After a good 21hr brewing (may be not the right word to use, but cannot think of any other now), I noticed that the soy milk mixture has developed an oily liquid layer on top, it has thicken up a bit, but not as much as the water one.  No changes in the smell of either.  Also I should point out that the water mixture is a lot whitish in color than the soy milk mixture.  They both had a good stir and I will probably leave them alone until the morning.  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 10, 2010, 7:20pm; Reply: 378
wow, where did yesterday go!! Doing lots of reading, researching, learning to meet latest challenges: Thyroid issues in the house!!

Stayed very compliant anyway having mostly rice or rice noodles and my vegie mixtures.  Usual coffee and either bread or rice cakes with peanut or almond butter and honey or barley malt.  

Mid mornings had been yogurt and fruit, a couple of green teas spread during the day ...
Snacking more often on walnuts, almonds, pumpkin seeds, flax seeds, dry figs and dates (the cold weather).

Very hard to keep drinking enough water with this weather! strugling to drink 3 bottles!! and toilet breaks a bit more often too.  But, I am making an effort of being consistant with it.

Also, with OP, floss, lemon water ... keeping it up ...  

Supps alternating the teacher pack, calm focus pack, histonia courtiguard, multivitamins, b12 at lunch time and deflect with every main meeal...

Still waiting on my supps from NZ, it takes over a week sometimes for shipment to arrive!!  Today is Friday, so hopefully we will get them today.  We will be needing most of those supps on order to fix DD's thyroid issues (but that is a matter for the other thread), but while I mention that, I still will need to order a couple more supps which I do not have and are needed for her protocol: glysconia is one .. .

So yesterday, went back to making the no wheat, no yeast beautiful flax bread to show DD that she can still 'have the cake and eat it too', even in a gluten free diet which is more or less what Swami has given her!!  She loved it! and so did the kids!

We had a Warrior Thyroid healing dinner last night:

Risotto type of dish with onion, leeks, carrot, turmeric, ginger, celtic salt, vegemite (yeast xtract), tamari, some peanut butter, turkey broth. I serve this with:

Whitting fish pieces:
freshly ground organic raw buckwheat kernels to make enough flour to coat fish pieces
beat 2 eggs with a bit of celtic salt
add some of the chopped parsley to the egg mixture and some to the flour
I used frozen whiting from woolies, they come in a box neatly pack
take each fish piece, dip it in the egg mixture, coat it with the flour, place in non stick fry pan (no fat).  Cook a few at a time.  I added leftover egg mixture to the risotto.  Yumm

We sprinkle the fish pieces with freshly squeeze lemon juice.  Dinner went very well!!
DGS loved the fish and first did not eat much of the rice (I used all my leftover rice and it soaked up the sauce a bit too much, not very moist, should have made more sauce for it).  Anyway they still ate a bit, but obviously not enough, because after we clean the dishes, both of them (kids) came asking for food, they were hungry.  So we offer them the rice again, but this time grated some parmesan and fresh pecorino cheese on it to make it a bit more tastier and moist for them.  The trick worked!! and had their after dinner second serving!!

I am glad DD and I are both in the same wavelength in that aspect, instead of giving them a 'snack' if they did not eat their share at dinner time, try a second time with some innovation.  Kids are so funny and picky in that aspect!! You have to cater to their taste if you want them to eat the healthy stuff.  It is all a matter of progressing education, they are usually open to new ideas and tastes, even though they may say, 'I do not like that', 'I want my usual one'.  They are used to drinking soy milk now, rather than cows milk (well, at least when here), they prefer home-made granola to the bought one, they choose peanut butter and honey over purchased jams and they love to munch on nuts and seeds, or fruit and compliant cheeses, rather than the biscuits of past times.

Next post I am reporting on the fermented bread project progress (keep it on its own post). :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 10, 2010, 7:41pm; Reply: 379
ferment bread progress 3:

Getting on the third day since I started the 'starters'.  I think the cold weather is not very encouraging for the little pets to do their thing!!

They both still smell nice and look healthy.  The soy milk base starter developed a bigger layer of oil at the top.  I have now removed this layer, I believe it to be the oil they use on soy milk!! As expected it floats to the top forming a barrier (which we do not want) between the mixture and the air.  So, oil out, I will keep on removing it as more builds up at the top.  

Makes me think how much oil is in these commercial milks!!  It pays to do your own, but I ran out of beans and they did not have them at the shop last time I went! Bonsoy milk should not have this problem, but I was finishing off the other brand milk I had, not thinking about the oil content ... Too late now, lets see what comes out of it ... :)

So at this stage, the water mixture is still thicker.  I transfered it to a bowl, as instructed in Nourishing Traditions, feed it some more flour (1 cup) and more water (1 cup), stir it and back into the glass jar it went.

I also added a bit more flour to the soy milk one, but not water because it is soupy enough compared to the water base one ...  Hope this is making sense.  I will summarize everything at the end ...  :)

PS: feel free to chip in with comment if you tried something similar before and want  to share  ides ...
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 11, 2010, 5:33pm; Reply: 380
ferment bread progress 4

Well, 2:00am and here I am after the soccer fanatics at home spent the night watching the first game of the world cup.  To their disgust I went to bed before 9:00pm!!  But here I am now, sipping a cup of tea and taking this opportunity to attend to my two new pets: soy milk and water fermented bread starters!

What a difference a few hours had made!!  My rescue efforts for the soy milk one had worked wonders!!  The water culture has actually outgrown its jar, bubbling happily away, multiplying beautifully!!  The soy milk one, all of a sudden has woken up and in gratitude for me liberating them from that 'gulf type' oil barrier have double in size and is also bubbling away!!

I need at least 3 quarts of each culture to make the breads, so I will keep on feeding them until desired quantity is reached.  I added one cup of flour and one cup of water to each culture and whisk away to smooth the flour in nicely.  Since I do not have big enough glass jars (take shopping note), they are now sitting in two stainless steel bowls bubbling away ... (cone base bow with soy culture, rounded bowl with water culture, they are both fairly similar in color, texture and smell, sign that the lactic creatures are doing their job? digesting their medium and producing what they are meant to ....)

I am feeling confident this is going to be a success!!!  :)
Posted by: Jenny, Friday, June 11, 2010, 9:58pm; Reply: 381
Cristina, I need to start a water culture sour dough for the man, who can't use soy or milk (Explorer)  ..hoping to gain confidence from your trial. Is what you are doing a fairly routine sour dough process?
I made a spelt loaf from your recipe, adjusting some of the proportions, ie less molasses, more yeast, and it is nice, funnily enough rather like sour dough bread even though it is yeasted. It is much denser than my usual wheat bread. I love my breadmaker, so much fun, and the smell is delicious. One small loaf lasts me a week.
:K)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 11, 2010, 11:51pm; Reply: 382
Hi Jenny, glad you are enjoying your Spelt bread.  My family loves it!!!  But now with Metta not being able to have any wheat, I think that it will be safer to have the fermented one in the house in case she gets tempted.  It may be less damaging for her ... and certainly a lot more beneficial for the rest of us!

Regarding density of the yested Spelt bread, I have not been able to reproduce the lightness of that one in the picture from the other day.  Mind you, they are all still nice and light !!  I think that it may have something to do with the yougurt I use. That first week I use a yogurt that had a lot of whey sediment, it was the end of the yogurt tub!  Since I have been using new yogurt tubs where the contents are a lot more creamier and less wheayish, if you get the idea ...  :)

The water culture I am trying  is very similar to the Nourishing Traditions one, except that they use Rye flour and that is not compliant for some of us.

The Soy one is based on some I have done before many moons ago, but using real cow's milk.  it is my first experiment with soy milk.  Still using cow's yogurt though.  ;) :) Will keep posting the process ...
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 12, 2010, 11:14pm; Reply: 383
Yesterday was a better day regarding exercising!! Finally after missing two days!! we went for a neighbourhood walk in the morning and a beach walk in the afternoon where we enjoyed some paragliding just landing next to us in an otherwise fairly deserted beach... amazing the resources we have and people hardly gets there!!

We up the carbs lately, must be the cold weather!!  rice dish for lunch and rice pasta for dinner (before 6pm though which is good).   Of course we balanced these off with plenty of vegies, and enough proteir: DH had lamb (all to himself not me), I had some chicken, organic, free tange from Coles $16!!) and a bit of cheese.

I had munched on a few nuts and dates during the day, but not too many, overall felt more satisfied.  

On the minus side, I think we must have err on a bit too much bread this week!!  I have noticed an increase in my mucus level, something I have not experienced for a long while now, that 'back of the throat' dripping feeling!!  So I made sure today I double the amount of lemon on my early morning warm water drink!! and concentrate on making flax bread only for the next couple of days, until my batch culture starters are ready to make fermented bread (maybe in a couple of days!!

Supps: Deflect after every meal (3 times) and Teacher 3 pack once.

Another interrupted night with Uruguay and France playing soccer!! I think it was ggood result, although I think hubby would have prefer a win ...  ;) ;)  After checking my culture pets and quick browsing of the forum, it was easy enough to get back to sleep until 7sh this morning ...

I am planning on a liver detox soon, it is something I have not done ever and my intuition tells me I am ready for it now.  Got to check the ingredients and pick the right day for it.

Continuing with my OPs using Olive oil, my flossing and lemon water ... very pleased with results so far ...

I am feeling very balanced, at peace, alert, with purpose... having the Calm Focus pack, hostonia and Cortiguard every now and then has been very balancing ...

We started the day with green tea this morning, hubby is screaming for coffee now!!
Later!  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 12:59am; Reply: 384
ferment bread progress 5

So far I have added 3 cups of flour to the starter.  This morning I took some pictures of both starters before and after adding one more cup.  So the photos in the glass containers are from just after adding the 4th cup of flour.  

They both started with one cup of flour, but as you can see by the photos, the soy milk one (in the 2 litre water jug) has outgrown its water counterpart in the glass 2 litre container (1litre = 1 quart).  The soy milk one took off the moment I removed that oily film (remember? from the oily soy milk a few post back).  They are both doing well, considering how cold it is here.  They have outgrown their location on top of my warm router, so they have been sitting on a filing cabinet in the warmest corner of my office space, away from drafts ...

Once they reach the 3 litres stage, I will make the breads!! One or two days at the most ... all going well ...
Going to photobucket to add the photos and then PS: them here...


Posted by: Lola, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 6:52am; Reply: 385
looks very professional to me! :)
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 7:05am; Reply: 386
Wow!! Looks good!!! Thanks for the updates... ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 8:22am; Reply: 387
ferment bread progress 6:

These little creatures are really happy!!  The soy milk one has gone berserk!! It has overgrown the glass jar! The water base one has about 4cm about 2" of bubbles, a bit slow but very active too.  Check the photo:


So, back to a bigger stainless steel bowl they go, I do not have any glass containers big enough to hold the 3 litre (3quarts) mixture!!  I transfered them to the bowls and added the 5th cup of flour.  This is great, I was expected to only add this tomorrow, but although it has only been about 8hours since I added the 4th cup this morning, they are growing so well, so I keep them happy by feeding them good stuff: flour and water (Yes, remember, everytime I add a cup of flour, I also add same amount of water).  At this rate, I will be making fermented bread tomorrow night!!!
These are the photos taken immediately after whisking in the 5th cup of flour.  The bowl with the wider rim is the one with the water mixture.

Of course they are covered with light material to keep them safe from foreigh matter, but still allow the goodies in the atmosphere in my home to home in the mixture and chump chomp chump  ;D :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 8:40am; Reply: 388
My supps today have been: Deflect twice and B12 once.

Had a home made pad tai dish with very little chicken today, munch on a few rice cakes with peanut butter and honey, had a little bit of cheese, ate a kiwi and drank a lot of water.  Total coffees for the day 2, the usual morning and afternoon breaks!!! I am going to have yogurt with some fruit and seeds soon together with another Deflect and the immune boosting pack.  Feeling a bit mucusy ... Maybe the broken sleep of last couple of nights may have weaken my reserves a bit ... that and the overdose of wheat last few days (today has been wheat free for me) and / or the detoxifying effect of having a few days already of Deflect ... Read a few posts about elimination coming a bit too fast with too many Deflects ... Did not walk today ... not good sign ... I am keeping an eye on things ...  ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 4:18pm; Reply: 389
Correction on post 387 - progress report 6 - I have posted the wrong photo last night, the first one showing the grow progress filling the jar ...  I fixed it now ...  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 13, 2010, 10:59pm; Reply: 390
Report on my mucosy effect.  mmm 2:00am again this morning, yes, yes, got to love them ... it is only for a month... the thing is that puppy now also is starting to get into the routine of 'going' at that time ... hope she realizes is only while football is on!!!  Well, was still feeling yak, and in checking my posts here (good record) I find my yogurt missing in my meal plans,  (still working on it, too many interruptions), is my super beneficial yogurt.  So, I had a couple of big spoonful after a few drinks of water and went back to bed...

Got up again at about 6:00sh and after floss, lemon water and OP, went for a walk down the beach!!!  Rain cut our walk short, but we manage to do a few kms anyway.

Today is public holidays here (Queens day), hopefully will get my supps tomorrow ...

BTW, my bro in Texas finally got his own laptop working with skype video and when he saw me for the first time yesterday afternoon,  after a few months, he was amazed at how good I looked! Got very emotional and kept on repeating that as the years go by, I was getting younger... he does not know it yet, but there are some spanish books coming his way ...  ;)  My hubby also told me he agree with him, that my face was glowing ... it is the lifestyle, the food, the exercises (should do more though), the meditation, the supps, that feeling that we are onto a sure thing ... a blessing ... I should put this in the garland for Dr D, I owe him so much, did not know where to start ... this may be alright ...  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Monday, June 14, 2010, 1:43am; Reply: 391
Love the reports on the sourdough - it's all new to me, love to hear how it turns out.  Take care of yourself and those bacteri-yums! (drool)(smile)(dance)(whistle)
Posted by: Jenny, Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 1:08am; Reply: 392
I'm up to 24 hours on my starter..I am using only spelt flour and bottled water, and keeping it in a glass jar in a yoghurt maker..have to use that as there is no where else in my house that has  regular warmth, and we have been going down below freezing regularly in Canberra this past week.It seems too hot in the yoghurt maker actually, but if it is alright for yoghurt, surely it would be ok for the natural yeasties?.
Not much action yet, but I see a few bubbles.
My question is, how much of the starter do I use when I eventually get to use it?
My guess would be that I use it instead of the water quotient in the recipe, of course eliminating the dried yeast quotient. Would this be right?
I will also be attempting to create a diffent time sequence on my bread maker so that there is an extended raising/ punching cycle.
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 6:47am; Reply: 393
Hi Jenny, fantastic!!! we can share experiences here!!

yogurt airtight container?  mmmm, the whole idea is to allow the air bacteria to get to your culture, the good stuff will find its way to your starter and get it bubbling soon enough.  If yogurt maker is airtight, it may not be enough air, only what is originally in it?  Suggestions for warm places: Maybe inside the oven with the light on or on top of your coffee maker with a plate in between, or put the slow cook on low with water in it, the lid upside down, place a couple of plates on it and sit the starter on top covered with a cheesecloth or a dishcloth (using a rubber band to hold the cloth so nasties will not get in) ...

I will keep the starter in an airtight container in the fridge when I want it to be in dormant mode, waiting for the next batch of bread making ...

That is my understanding ...

Regarding how much did I make/use, I am explaining that in the next post, reporting on my bread making / preparation day today!!!  I spent the day in the kitchen (well part of it) getting things ready, kneading, forming loaves, creating warm places to rise and cleaning up ....

Ahhhh, so satisfying ....  My arms are so grateful for the exercise too!!  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:13am; Reply: 394
Ferment bread progress 7:

This is for yesterday.  Sorry I did not get to report earlier or took pictures of the start of the 6th cup stage (had visitors at home ...).

Anyhow, at some stage during the day yesterday I got around to my two pet colonies and fed them the 6th cup of flour and water as usual.  Stir away and leave them alone again to do their job.  That's it!! No more cups to add, tomorrow (today) is bread making day!!

This morning  I checked my two starters and they both looked like they peaked at some stage during the few hours prior and then collapsed, as expected!  They had this wine like aroma, not overpowering, but a hint of it and also, as you can see in the photo, they have this liquid layer underneath the top thicker layer.


My efforts of the last few days, have produced me two batches of about 1.5 litres (1.5 quarts) of starters.  Ihave put aside in an airtight container about half a litre from each to  keep them in the fridge until next bread making attempt in a few days time.  

With the 2 x 1.5 litres starters I proceeded to make the breads (next post) ...  :)
  
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:39am; Reply: 395
Fermented bread progress 8:

Nourishing traditions calls for 13 cups of flour, I think I ended up with about 10 cups  in my mixture.

I disolved 1 tablespoon of coarse salt with one cup of water in the starter and then added the flour a couple of cupfuls at a time, kneading it in to form a lovely, elastic, silky soft dough, enough for two big loaves:

Each starter mix with flour, after about 20 minutes of pounding, kneading, turning and now ready to be divided into loaves, bread rolls ... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 10:25am; Reply: 396
Fermented bread progress 9:

I was stuck!! My loaf pans are too small, and not enough of them (I only have one!!  :o) I knew I forgot something!! I was meant to buy them but Woolies only had small ones, meant to search somewhere else!!

So I improvised, I took a thick baking tray and using a glass garlic bread type of dish in the middle, I created a pseudo two loaves oven tray.


;D ... and after 3 hours resting, as you can see the glass dish did not do such a good job of staying in the middle, sort of collapsed on top of one of the breads:
;)
Anyhow, after about 1 hr baking at 350F (180C - just under 200 in my oven), I finished with two beautiful, although uneven shaped loaves.  

BTW, we have not cut them yet, but tasted the bits that fell off when removing the glass dish and it is yummy!!!  ;D

This is just the soy based starter, check next post to see what I did with the water based starter:  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 10:50am; Reply: 397
Fermented bread progress 10:

Now, I still had to find trays and bake the water based dough!!  

I decided to use the breadmaker for half and a muffin tray for 12 bread roll with the other half!
Although I had already knead this though, I pop half of it in the bread container for the machine and set it to just knead.  The machine did it for about 1 hour and then I let it rest for another couple of hours.  After about 3 hours altogether, I let the machine bake the bread (bake only setting).  It did it automatically for 45 minutes!! at the end of which I got this:


Sorry for the quality, but I think I have overworked the camera and it is needing to be recharged!!  If the bread last that long, I will try again tomorrow for better photo.  ;D

And here are the 12 fermented bread (muffin) rolls:

Except that there are now only 9!!  DD tried one and she is now grabbing two more: another one for her and the other for DGD.  DD had tried fermented bread before elsewhere and could not eat it, she loves this one, even without butter! But with Ghee is delicioso!!
Baker in the house !!  ;D ;D
This is now the end of this project, I hope it has encouraged others to try ... :)
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 11:02am; Reply: 398
Well done; I have learned a lot!! Excellent efforts... ;)
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 3:30am; Reply: 399
Cristina, I have not had the lid on the yoghurt maker, I understand about the need for it to be exposed to the air. In fact I really don't think any cover should be required. After a couple of days, there is very little progress using wholemeal spelt flour and pure water, so I may have to start again, perhaps with white flour and some yoghurt after all. I am printing off your reports so that I can refer to it once I start making some progress. :-/
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 4:35am; Reply: 400
Thanks Possum!!

Jenny, I thought you would!!!  I agree with you on the no cover, but out here, I have to, otherwise pesty little insects, even this winter time, can get residence in no time at all!!  If you can use rye flour, nourishing traditions uses that for their starter.  I used organic, white spelt flour which I get from either Woolies, or a wholesaler natural organic shop in 5kg bags!  Rye is black dot for us, so I used Spelt.  According to my process it also took a couple of days before i notice any activity ... But if you say it is bubbling, then it could still be hope ... How many cups of flour have you added already?

Too much heat kills the bacteria, so make sure yogurt maker is not too high ...  Feed them a bit more flour and water and put them somewhere else ... they may have their favorite spot! They seem to like it in my office corner, on top of the filing cabinet behind me ... :)  no artificial heating in here, just the warm feeling emanating from this forum ...  ;D  I must be radiating it to them too  ;D
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 4:44am; Reply: 401
;D
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 8:33am; Reply: 402
I can't alter the temperature on my yoghurt maker, it is fixed at just above blood temp. But this may be too hot. No, it is not really bubbling at all. I only add a tablespoon of flour every day because the container is so small, and I keep the moisture level at about unwhipped cream level.
There is no where else in the house that is consistently warm because overnight we drop to freezing or below, and I don't leave the heater on at night.Perhaps I need to get a pet electric blanket pad!!!
If nothing has happenned by tomorrow, Thursday, which will be about 4 days, I will start again with yoghurt and rye flour. There must be a solution to this, but I have yet to crack it. ::)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 10:17am; Reply: 403
4 days without activity, may be a bit too much, I am surprise it has not gone sour?  I suppose the freezing temps may keep the mixture from deteriorating ...  Yes, you need to find a warmish place in the house ... bed side table? with a cosy wooly cover on top, like you get for traditional tea pots?  ;D    You'll figure it out ... crafty warrior and all ...  ;) ... the battle is on and those creatures do not know what is coming to them if they do not start working soon!!

BTW, my long loaves produced about 32 slices of bread each, the one from the breadmaker about 14, so I have been slicing them and bagging them in batches of 4, 6 or 8, before they get too dry and crumby!!  I should have done it early this morning but, we had trades people setting up the concrete slabs for our new sheds.  Lots of activity here, hoping it will not rain tomorrow so they can pour the concrete!!!


Do you like the cute shoe shaped ones ? ;D
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 5:54pm; Reply: 404
very professional looking!! ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 6:30pm; Reply: 405
Thanks Lola!!  I really enjoyed the whole process!!  I will not need to bake bread again for a while now, but next time I will reduce quantities accordingly, just to make enough for a loaf a week or every second week.   ;) :)
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 10:39pm; Reply: 406
what temperature would you say is optimal? (ie what I have been doing in my freezing climate is having the yoghurt maker on 24 hours at a warm temp which as I said is hotter than blood temp)
Next to my bed would drop to maybe 8-10 degrees Centigrade overnight.
thanks for the vote of confidence Cristina.Yes I am battling on, but don't know how long my patience will last!!!
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 16, 2010, 11:59pm; Reply: 407
Jenny, my ambient temp here is about 12 (considered freezing), mostly around 16C in winter, it escalates to mid twenties in summer.  So, it seems my battleground is in my favor here!   :)  

Have you considered crock pot or slow cooker, it will not help during the night, where the babies will go into dormant mode, but if you wrap them well then, and then during the day use the top of a crok pot on very slow, with a few plates in between the lid and your babies, well covered, it may help ...  ??)

or even on a plate on top of the yogurt maker without the lid (the plate holding the jar with the babies become the yogurt maker lid?  

just throwing ideas, you will get to the solution soon11 ;D
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, June 17, 2010, 8:12am; Reply: 408
Jenny, some more warm places I know from making yogurt without a yogurt maker:

Next or on top of your hot water system,
in the oven with the pilot light on
put glad wrap over the top sometimes might hold any heat in
armpits ha ha

On another thread recently re: probiotics Lola had the brilliant idea of using a blood type specific probiotic to start your own homemade yogurt.  Probably a very healthy for you sourdough could be started the same way.  Lola's idea :)

Great loaves there Cristina, they look delicious.  Recently made the best spelt loaf so far (with yeast) and made sure it was sticky (previously I've been adding more flour to stop it sticking to my fingers and everything and they had been too dry).  Are you sure that spelt can be kneaded that long? I thought kneading has to be at a minimum to prevent the gluten being stretched too far and falling in again (though I love to do it too! - great for the heads and the head)

Did you make your loaves with just white spelt?  I've been mixing half and half wholemeal and white and love the flavor and the lightness that you get from both.  Got a bulk pack of wholemeal spelt and it's lasting a long time along with the packets of white spelt from woolies (yeh glad they have it eh).  The sweet taste of spelt is so nice!  Put some nutmeg, herbs in and some ghia seeds ontop of my last loaf.  Little additives change the flavor dramatically.

Made pizzas this week with spelt too but they didn't rise so well as it was about 15 (freezing for brizzie) was lovely anyway.  When I was rising the bread it also took longer as drafts stop it rising.  So had to put it in the oven on the lowest temp possible (for rising).
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 17, 2010, 8:29am; Reply: 409
Just a quickie  Symbi because the family is getting ready to watch Avatar on box office and I have not booked it yet!!

Yes, I kneaded it it for about 20 minutes manually and the one on the machine got another beating with the machine, forgot how long for!! So, figure that one out!!!  My bread did not fall down as you can see by the pictures.  I have also heard about the gluten thing and kneading too much but of course, I did not remember it then!!!!  

yes, i only use white Spelt flour, only because I wanted to make sure about this process first, then I will experiment with combinations and flavours later...  Your suggestions sound very yummy!!

Come back later ...  :)

PS: the gluten thing, is it that if you knead too much it makes the bread crumbier?  too dry?  I noticed mine had the perfect consistency on the first day, not as moist and dense as  other sour breads I have seen or cooked before, but nice and lighter.  It did not crumbed down when I sliced the bread the next day either ...  Maybe because I used white Spelt flour only. ..

Next time I will bypass the machine extra kneading and see if I get same result with the machine baking.  I do not think I will knead for less than 20 minutes manually for any of the loaves, they have to be kneaded until you get that elastic, silky soft texture ... I got my kneading worked out, got the skills from grandma, grew next to her making home made bread and  baking it in the clay wood ash oven outside, every Sunday, for the whole week ... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 17, 2010, 8:32pm; Reply: 410
I have not posted my progress for a few days now, but it has been very good! Keeping compliance up, oral routine consistent, mixed a couple of days walking, but not being a couch potato, kept active and busy with other things around the house.

Home kits and supps did arrive!!
Interesting thing with our DGS!! Follow kits instructions, soak his finger in warm water, prick his finger and no blood!! had to squeeze his poor little finger really hard for his blood to drop at all!! Talking about thick and clotting!! Got just enough to smudge the circles on the card and he came a clear Anegative like his dad and my GD!!

Started my yogurt making again!  I did not have Lola's hint on using the Polyflora to create your own blood type yogurt!!  I am starting a new one today with a couple of capsules from my polyflora which it seems, arrived just in time for this!!

Doing the OP now and ready for a walk down the beach!! Seems very cloudy and gloomy outside though, hope weather holds for us long enough for Zuri to have a few runs!! Been a couple of days since we took her there!!  :)
Posted by: Jenny, Thursday, June 17, 2010, 9:18pm; Reply: 411
Symbi, you are so cute..
have done the yoghurt maker to death, will try the pilot light today.
Love Lola's idea of the probiotic..what lateral thinking!!!
My spelt loaf (yeast based) collapsed yesterday in the bread machine..I think the mixture was too moist, but it still cuts up nicely, and tastes as good as ever.
Must away to another day of activity and scientific work with the bacteria.
It would be good to have a precis of Cristina's discoveries for simple application for  beginners in the sour dough arena...I know its all there in the messages, but just one final summary would be great if you don't mind pal?  ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 17, 2010, 11:33pm; Reply: 412
Sure Jenny, I thought about it,  will work on one today, now that the youngsters are all out for most of the day (holidays here today: show day!! - have you had yours yet?).

I will do the summary, we all try the process a few times ( different people) and then post it in recipe central.  BTW I also find some of the book instructions a bit cryptic or too assuming, ending up doing things totally different to what is intended ...  Good in these forums, we can keep checking on each other ... I love your feedbacks, I learnt so much from hearing you all saying things and from reading countless books ...  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 18, 2010, 12:53pm; Reply: 413
Polyflora yogurt project:

Ingredients:
1 cup bonsoy milk (too impatient to wait for my beans to be ready to milk!!)
1 capsule Polyflora (for your type)
1 stainless steel saucepan (just big enough to warm the cup of milk)
1 yogurt maker (or any other device you have to keep the mixture warm)
1 glass jar big enough to hold your milk and place in yogurt maker.  I do not like using the plastic container the yogurt maker came with. I gave those to my DGD to play. I much rather use recycle glass jars!
1 small glass or ceramic bowl to act as the 'lid' for the glass jar inside the yogurt maker

The Process:


Unfortunately I do not have any cows or goats milk at home to also test this procedure.  I may buy half a litre tomorrow just for this purpose.
Since I am starting this project at 10pm (while watching world cup soccer with hubby), the yogurt will be sitting longer than required before placing it into the fridge.  Will report in the morning about the results of this experiment ...

Thanks Lola for the inspirations ...   :)

Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 18, 2010, 1:13pm; Reply: 414
BTW, if the experiment above works using soy milk, for sure it will work with any other animal base milk, or plant base milk ...

I intend to use this yogurt to start another batch of fermented bread culture tomorrow morning ...  this time will be true to type culture ... Might do it behind the scenes though and just report here at the end only ... ?? :)

mmmm, all this got me thinking now, if my O, B or AB friends come to visit, they will be required to send me a couple of their respective Polyfloras so I can bake their true to type bread!!!  It will certainly raise a few eyebrows in the post if they happen to notice all these pills popping around the place ... ;D
Posted by: Lola, Friday, June 18, 2010, 3:37pm; Reply: 415
sounds very scientific to me!!! ;)
it works with all grain, nut, seed, whatever milk
just make it home made!!!
I don t trust anything processed!!!lol

even the critters don t like those!!!

Quoted Text
Stir in lightly by shaking the jar, do not use spoon

I used a thin wooden chop stick to mix......no problem
Posted by: Lola, Friday, June 18, 2010, 3:43pm; Reply: 416
Christina by the way, about the soccer.....
we get to play together!!!! :P

may the best win!!! lol

add the fermenting of veggies and all to your science project!! ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 19, 2010, 4:04am; Reply: 417
Polyflora yogurt project
Progress report 1:

Checked status of mixture at 4sh this morning: too liquid, if any activity, it did  not show it at all.  So, I added another two Polyflora capsules (remember it is all experimenting still).   Set the yogurt for another 5 hours planning to re-check after completing a few chores this morning like shopping for raw milk and more spelt flour!!!  Grrrrr!! Spelt grains are not available here yet!!!  May have to source them from down south!!!

It is now noon and I am happy to report that I have now a wonderful cup of 'True to type A' Soy yogurt sitting in my fridge!!!  

Colour: sort of creamy, like normal full cream soy milk
Consistency: creamy, like thick custard type of mixture
Texture: silky, soft
Taste: kind of sweet hint, with sharp tingle (like garlicky sharp) ...

Taster hubby: I like it, tastes sweetish, I will eat it
taster DD: nope, I would not eat it, I did like the one you (meaning me) served this morning (yogurt I made based on commercial yogurt and cow milk)
Taster me: I will happily have it on my homemade granola any time!!

Conclusion: As Lola already told us, the system works.  Now I have an idea of quantities, I will continue making my true to type yogurt using for the time being raw cow milk, at least until I get around to doing my own soy milk again. :)

I will use the cup I just made of Type A soy base yogurt to create a Type A fermented bread starter, at the latest this evening ...

The fermented bread batch I made earlier (page 16), is disappearing very fast.  I think it gets better and tastier as it gets older, sort of like all of us here !!!  ;D ;D Can't help it to love this journey ... :) ;D :)

Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 19, 2010, 4:12am; Reply: 418
Quoted from Lola
Christina by the way, about the soccer.....
we get to play together!!!! :P

may the best win!!! lol

add the fermenting of veggies and all to your science project!! ;)


Well done to both to get it to this position to fight for number one in the group!!! Sure we both will make it through!!

Thanks for the encouragement with this kitchen science project!! Keep on going while on a roll, as they say ...

Once I make a batch of yogurt, I will continue using some of it to make some more, and every now and then I will add the odd Polyflora to 'boost' the good creatures up!!  Sounds like a deal?  ;) :)

I am actually feeling a bit spoiled today!!  We bought us a dehidrator!!  My mind is racing with all the things we will now be able to do!!  Like I was just then drying my latest batch of almonds, walnuts and peanuts, all soaked for over 24 hrs!!

PS: and tonight is Australia playing!!!  Had a little rest this afternoon in anticipation!!! ;)
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, June 19, 2010, 4:26pm; Reply: 419
Cristina, I just wanted to tell you how much I love what you're doing...all these science projects
with foods and sharing them here.  So great to read this thread!  Thanks :)

Question.  Could I use homemade almond milk and make yogurt with the Polyflora?

Must I go buy a yogurt maker? (I can do that if this makes it easier)

And what did you determine is the proper ratio of milk to Polyflora capsules?
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 19, 2010, 4:46pm; Reply: 420
Thanks Chloe, I appreciate your feedback.

I have not tried any other milks yet,  I soon will and post my results, but according to Lola, yes, you can use different milks.  It makes sense to me too.

Regarding the ratio, so far has been trial and error: I started with one polyflora tablet, as you can see in my descriptions here, but, at least given my conditions, it was not enough, so I added a couple more and it worked!  You may find out it is enough with just one or two ... Like I did, start at the lower end and add more if needed.

I think that with culture mixtures like yogurt,  it all has to do with your ambient conditions, so results may vary, take everything just as a guide rather than gospel.

I used yogurt maker for convenience: set time and forget.  It is also airtight and will keep constant desired temp for me.  But, until recently I used to have a jar immerses in hot water in an ski.  Also in the past, particularly in summer, just used to sit the yogurt mixture on a warm place in a corner in my kitchen.  Again, play with whatever resources you have.  Nice, cosy warm in an bigger airtight container is best for yogurt making, I think ...

Again, thanks for visiting, it encourages me to keep on going ...  :)  
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, June 19, 2010, 7:06pm; Reply: 421
Can't wait to try this.

Prior to getting my SWAMI, I had never even made cultured vegetables...And just recently made
almond milk from scratch....And never made yogurt.  The fact that dairy yogurt is an avoid on
my SWAMI, I need to find alternative milks.

It's warm outside right now...but house has central A/C going, so I think by your yogurt experience that the goal is to keep the temperature constant once you've added the Polyflora...I'm wondering if it's going to get warm enough outside to culture the yogurt...or possibly too warm...

Is there an ideal temperature required to make yogurt??

Can't do this today...too late already and have to make more almond milk first.  But this is
so exciting to think that I could wind up with my own customized yogurt..:)


Posted by: Lola, Saturday, June 19, 2010, 7:46pm; Reply: 422
there s nothing to loose!
good luck!
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 20, 2010, 4:28am; Reply: 423
Quoted Text
Conclusion: As Lola already told us, the system works.  Now I have an idea of quantities, I will continue making my true to type yogurt using for the time being raw cow milk, at least until I get around to doing my own soy milk again.


Well, that did not work!!  Either I heated up the milk too much and killed whatever the creatures need from it to make the yogurt or the creatures did not like the raw cow milk (being A type probiotics!! Lola, you mentioned something earlier about the creatures not liking anything processed, does that apply too in regards to anything not good for type As, like cow milk, no matter how raw it is??!!

I will start again!!  Glad I am only just using a couple of cups of milk and nobody in the house is missing them (being an A household), well, they shouldnt anyway!!!  ;)

PS:  CORRECTION!!!!  YES!!! it did work!!  I took the jar of the yogurt maker with the intention of throwing it away, but then I noticed some sort of viscosity at the bottom.  I decided to add another Polyflora and put it back in the yogurt maker for another 3 hours.  Had dinner, went to bed for a nap, got up again to start the new batch and surprise! The yogurt was formed! May be we need 4 polyfloras for 2 cups of milk? Maybe this bacteria likes to take its time and needs 8 hrs to incubate rather than the usual 5??  Whatever it is, I am not complaining and accept the success and the learnings that come with it!! :)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, June 20, 2010, 6:26am; Reply: 424
try again :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 20, 2010, 11:16am; Reply: 425
I am so pleased that, after all, the raw milk process did work!  I PS my post previous page  (reply 423) with the update.

I have now started another batch of yogurt with raw milk:  



Glass jar in yogurt maker with timer set to maximum: 10 hrs.  Give those creatures plenty of time to feel cosy and do their business overnight!!! ;) :)

In the meantime I have almonds and walnuts soaking in salt and brown rice soaking in lemon water.

Yesterday I flaked my groats, soaked them in water with lemon and a bit of wheat flour.  Today I drained them, chopped some home soaked and dehydrated nuts, added olive oil and honey, some flax seeds and put them in the dehydrator for a few hours.  We now have phytic acid reduced granola to enjoy as finger food for the kids (and not so kids) or for the odd breakfast.   :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, June 20, 2010, 8:07pm; Reply: 426
5 am next morning and I have a big jar of 'Type A' yogurt!!!  Fantastic! The timer must just switched off because the yogurt is still warmish.  I put the yogurt in the fridge.

It is very thick, custard like, I will taste it and take photos later. I am now busy  drinking my lemon water and will soon do the OOPulling, flossing, etc.  

I am also working on the new bread fermentation project based on the cup of 'Type A soy yogurt' I made (previous page).  Not much activity with it, but, no need to panic, it is early days.  I keep on stirring it a few times a day.  I also fed it with a little bit more flour because it seemed too watery ...  maybe because I made the silly mistake of putting a plate on top of the stainless steel bowl I am using for it (the ferment starter).  What was I thinking!! That did not allow my ambient creatures to find residence in it, slowing down the process ... Must not get mixed up with the yogurt process: reduce air for yogurt, increase air for bread starter.

BTW, all that fermented bread baked back in page 16 is almost finished. Family and visitors made a good job of enjoying it!  It looks like we will have a few bread-less days while I work on the 'sponge making' process again for the next batch of home made fermented bread!!  This time with the 'Type A' creatures only at work! ... ;) :)

Very cold nights here still, last night seemed to be particularly colder too.  The immune boost pack and collinsonia plus supps are working wonders  with my house members to fix their recurring cold like symptoms.  They keep on wondering how 'Mama' is immune to all these and I keep on reassuring them that it is not biggy: just eat right for your type! at least for the majority of their time! They are not doing too bad though, they may just be a bit more relaxed with their approach to Eating Right 4 Your Type and also, they may be on the eliminating process adapting to ER meals.

We have used liquid Proberry on the kids too, with success!

I keep on adapting my supps according to what I am going through and it is working wonders.  I have been using mostly Deflect, Immune boost pack, the occasional Polyflora and Calm Focus pack to easily ride stressful moments (rushing around, dealing with trades people, doing the tax, sleeping less due to World Cup soccer fans at home ...)  :)

Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, June 20, 2010, 11:09pm; Reply: 427
Great stuff scientific Cristina.  Well done making yogurt as it can be really tricky and takes a lot of patience.  Many times I poke a spoon through the top and it was slightly solid so relieved, it's working, but it wasn't.   >:( It was just the greek yogurt floating on the top.  (I was fermenting mine in an esky with jars of warm water).  A yogurt maker is a good idea!

Dehydrator now.  Honey I shrunk the kids.  he he.  The things you can do now!

Thanks also for your revelations about urine, though I have always sipped as I have dry mouth all the time - they call me mellow yellow  :) ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, June 21, 2010, 1:57am; Reply: 428
;D  I will keep on calling you Symbi though!!  ;)  Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, I love my dehydrator, particularly to dry the soaked grains.  Today I was further experimenting and I ended up  with a very popular snack from way back wnen we were kids:

Gofio

It was by pure accident, I just finished dehydrating soaked rolled oats, mixed them with honey and OO as usual and put them in the oven to roast a bit (that is how the kids prefer them), but I left them a bit too much and they went a bit darker, not toxic darker, but too dark for breakfast cereal.  I rescue about 1.5 cups from the lighter parts , put them in the processor with the flat blades, and pulverized them into a sort of roasted oat flour.  I mixed 1/2 cup of peanut butter, 1/4 cup OO and mixed the lot to an even crumby mixture.  We tried it and my goodness, its taste reminded us of the Gofio we used to eat when little kids!! I now got it in a glass jar waiting for an opportunity to treat the kids with this protein packed, phytic acid reduced full of minerals filling snack!!

Since I google gofio and apparently is traditionally made with maize or wheat.  Well the oats, peanut butter one we made is just as good!  I suppose you could also substitute your fav grain and use almond butter instead.  Great winter finger snack for kids to take out camping or to sporting events ... :)
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 8:30am; Reply: 429
I am getting so frustrated, and unlike me, almost in tears..just can't make the sour dough work. Have tried a beat up crock pot which got too hot, have tried the pilot light, have tried the lowest possible temp in the oven...nothing works.
It is really important to me to get this right as my sensitive Explorer man can only eat millet/rice non-yeasted bread, and none of the commercial ones are any good as either they are unpalatable or have some wrong additives. I will be persuading him to try spelt bread, but I have to do it with sour dough, not yeast as such. :-/
Posted by: Possum, Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 8:32am; Reply: 430
Aww so sorry you are close to tears!! Understand your frustration...Hope you have some success soon!!
Posted by: Munchkin76, Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:04am; Reply: 431
Cristina, I've been out of touch for a while with family visitors from Oz etc but have been delightfully catching up on all your good work here on this thread.  Well done and thanks for sharing - I'm very excited to experiment with your various bread findings - especially the sour dough.  I have a close A (Teacher) family member who comes to visit from France often.  He does not get on well with yeast and his gut is still healing.  Would be lovely to make him some healthy bread.

Thanks again (clap)

Andy
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:23am; Reply: 432
Oh dear Jenny!!  I understand your frustrations fully!  I am still trying to make to work the type A fermention bread starter.  I started it with the cup of soy yogurt I made using Polyflora but it is not moving, it just sits there, a silky, runny custard like mixture that is not bubbling away, except when I stir it.  I just added the 4th cup of flour to it and I promised myself I will not add any more.  Will leave it sitting there on top of the coffee maker for the next 48 hours: there is bound to be some activity by then, even if it is the kind that require us to use a peg in our noses!!!

The yogurt making part worked fine, so I do not see why this is not working!!  I need to summarize my process and see if I missed something there ... Sorry Jenny, I have not done that yet!!  got side tracked with lots of other things happening here with the building works, world cup soccer and pantry re-arranging (yes, again, not happy with previous layout, OK for just me, but not working for Metta and I together, so re-arranging together... should be OK now, work in progress) and so on ...

I do not know, maybe you are right and the cold weather sends the good little creatures running away, hybernating somewhere else and keeps them away from our bread starters ....!!! I do not want to cry though ... so, don't you start!!!  ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:28am; Reply: 433
Welcome back Andy! The bread fermentation process I described on pages 15,16 works wonderfully!  You caught me at the moment experimenting with the Polyflora  blood type specific culture creatures to make the fermented bread!  The yogurt part worked fine, but I am struggling a bit with the bread starter/sponge side of things.  Early days though and I will get to the bottom of it soon! It is all good fun!!  :)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 9:30am; Reply: 434
Cristina, it's so good to be back let me tell you!!  Can't wait to try out your fermentation process.  I know you'll crack the bread starter mischief soon and look forward to hearing about your triumph so I can give it a whirl too  ;)
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 10:11pm; Reply: 435
Thanks for your kind words..I was a bit overwrought yesterday for several reasons, and the failure of the dough seems to symbolize it. But yes, that's a thought, maybe in this weather there are very few yeasts floating around anyway! Maybe I should wait for the spring to start again.xxx
Posted by: Jenny, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 1:31am; Reply: 436
Oh, oh, oh, sour dough...
not crying anymore, there are bubbles...
I added a smidgen of honey to both the spelt and the rye starters, and that seems to be working.
Left them in the slow cooker bath overnight, (faulty old cooker that barely heats up that I got through freecycle), and when I stirred them this morning they started to bubble....then would you believe it some friends told me that you can get sour dough starter from No Knead in a local IGA supermarket.!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Later...I find that there is not any sourdough preparation in the supermarket, only a kind of pretend 'sour dough' flour. As I am avoiding commercial yeast this will be no good.Never mind
More news later.
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 4:33am; Reply: 437
Jenny, we must have been 'in tune' on this, because in reviewing my posts I noticed I have put some sweetener to one of the starters, so I added some barley malt to this one and also, noticed some activity!!  We may get there yet ...

I am pretty busy at the moment, making soy milk (using organic non GM soy beans), dehydrrating nuts, trying to sprout wheat, ...  hubby says my kitchen is like a weird lab, with pots, and machines, and jars, and mixtures, timer alarms blowing here and there, devices beeping, extrange things mushrooming all over ...   ;) ;D :)

PS:  I may add too that there is a lot more sunshine here today and it is a bit warmer ...
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 7:09am; Reply: 438
Hehe, Cristina I just had an image of you in a lab coat with crazy hair and soot on your face ala mad scientist  ;D.  I hope the starter takes off today for both you and Jenny - if you not you could always send it over here.  We've been having nice QLD weather lately - was 27 degrees and beautifully sunny yesterday.  Today looks to be as good or better  ;)
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 7:38am; Reply: 439
Good image science lab in the kitchen reminds me of Beaker and Dr. Bunsen Honeydew in the Muppet show.

I'm sure you'll crack it Jenny.  Also Cristina will figure out sourdough scientifically.  Hopefully the sweetener will convince the bacteria it's good real estate?!

You lucky thing Andy in the heat up there, glad to see you again was wondering how you were going.

Not meaning to hijack but lots of my friends that read and write in this thread. We've had the flu go through the house here (including me) and now the cold has come to visit.  The bugs got a chance because I've had cracks on the side of my mouth and a sore in my nose for a long time (tea tree oil helps a bit).  Still being as compliant as I can.  I swear I'm not as sick as I would usually get so that's something.   :-/
Still functioning mostly. Lots to do, this weekend is my little girls 5th birthday and then next Tuesday we're flying up to the tropics to visit my Mum for a week.  "Ooh it's heavenly warm up here" and "Oh Hi Mum"   ;)

Won't have the internet while I'm away so won't be on here much and lots to do before then.  Talk when we get back and take care everyone!
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 7:52am; Reply: 440
No worries Symbi, hope you're feeling in tip-top shape again soon!  I bet the heat and humidity up north will help a lot  8)  Have a fun birthday with the little one and I hope you have a amazing holiday with your family.  See you when you get back  :D
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 8:50am; Reply: 441
yeah hope that nice tropical heat sorts out your flu bugs!! Have an awesome time with your Mum!!! :K) We'll miss you!!!
Posted by: Symbi, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 9:09am; Reply: 442
Thanks guys!  Will miss you too Possum :K) Am packing lots of healthy foods to go with me, hope they don't think my licorice root or spelt flour is something else?!  Looks a bit sus!   :P ;)

Mum got a breadmaker so I'm back to print off the breadmaker recipe, thanks to Cristina for pointing that out to me.
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 11:09am; Reply: 443
Well done Symbi, getting prepared and all for the big holidays!!!  and planning on baking.... yummy holidays!!!  have a nice safe, enjoyable family holidays then and also  this weekend, have a nice one  with your family and Happy birthday to your darling daughter!!!

Yes, it has been freezing lately although today has been fantastic!! Sunny and warm (thanks Andy for sending us some of it!!!).  It looks like that nonnie thing is striking home again around your place with colds and things and here with hubby being targeted by a cold.  However, this time we have our artillery ready with the Nap's Immune Boosting pack including Proberty caps and Collinsonia Plus.  Considering his sleepless nights (due to the world cup soccer), hubby is not doing too bad at all!!  He has been able to ride the cold while functioning 100 % for his work!!  Of course the odd Attentia here and there and timely daily reminders about him keeping up with his Warrior 3 pack may have contributed to  speeding up the recovery!! Even though his compliance has not been 100$ , ... but he is getting there ...

You guys cracked me up with your vivid imagination!!! Mad around the kitchen all right!! True to type mad!!!  

Good news in the bread front!!  The creatures have landed!!! and they are bubbling away, in fact I am considering having a bread making night tonight!!!  I see how things develope, just came back from puppy school so I think I may be a bit too tired ... might leave it for tomorrow morning .... ;) :)

Also, Symbi, hope you get yourself sorted out and completely healed by the time of your trip north.  Hope you get all this before going ... cheers everyone!! ;D

Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 9:41pm; Reply: 444
Polyflora fermented bread project summary:

Ahh!!I could not go to bed tonight without making the breads!!  We are breadless at the moment and I do not know how much longer the youngters will last without rushing to the shop for the commercial bread!!! That will not be necessary now, since the little creatures arrived and they seem to have done their job!  

But, before I go any further let me summarize my process so far to make the Polyflora based bread starter.

Starter Process:

1 - 1 cup Polyflora A soy yogurt
2.- 2 cups Spelt flour (or any other of your choice)
3.= 1 cup water
4.- sweetner (optional, I used barley malt, had to add it half way through process as explained below)

Mix together these ingredients long enough to take most of the lumps off.  Let it sit in a warmish place for a few days, stirring frequently and adding equal parts of flour and water each day.  

Observation 1:  It seems to me that this Polyflora base starter is a slow starter, or sometimes the ambient conditions are not right (not enough creatures in the air), but, as long as there is no foul smell and mixture looks healthy, it pays to be patient. Once bubbles appear, it usually takes off.  You can keep on adding flour and water until you reach the desire volume for your project.  Last batch I used 6 cups for the starter, this time only about three.

Observation 2:  If you notice a whey like liquid underneath the top layer, that means that at some stage the mixture came to a 'head' and then collapsed.  It is now ready to make bread, but if you require more quantity of starter, you can keep on adding equal parts of water and flour to it to your heart's content.

Bread making process:

1.- Salt to taste = about 1 tablespoon for about 1.5 litres of starter.  I used about half for this one because it is about half that volume.
2.- about a cup of warmish water (do not want to shock the residents)
3.- enough flour to make nice, silky, stretchy bread dough


I ended up with two starters again this time:  Because it was not working, I divided my mixture  into two to try to awaken the creatures, I put barley malt in one, and added Polyflora raw milk yogurt culture to the other. Both mixtures woke up then in a surge of activity producing enough starter volume for two loaves.

One loaf went into the breadmaker for further keading, raising and then baking.  Except that I set this up late last night, was tired, went to bed for a couple of hours with the intention of giving the breadmaker enough time to knead and proof the bread, then I will have to press the 'bake' button, for it to do it (I use the manual settings for all this).  But, I fallen asleep and hubby woke me up this morning saying 'what is wrong with the bread in the machine, it did not cook!!'  Of course not, I did not press the button last night!!  So, I tried to bake it this morning, during the night the bread had risen beautifully to the top of the container!!! 5 am in the morning it is still too dark around here, where I have the breadmaker is a darkish spot, even with the lights on! In fiddling with the electronic set buttons, instead of setting it to 'bake' I set it to the one above it, the one for 'knead'!!! The moment I realized my mistake, it was too late, the machine had already broken down my beautiful up to the top raised bread.  So, at the moment, the breadmaker is still kneading this dough, then I will wait again for a few hours hoping it will raise again to its top of the container glory, and finally allow the breadmaker to 'bake' the loaf by pressing the right button this time!!!

It will be interesting to see what comes out of all this extra kneading and raising of the dough!  'There she is again with her experiments ...' rolling eyes hubby ... I hope this works ...

As for the second starter dough, last night I placed it in a small loaf tray, let it proved for a while to a certain height and then baked it.  So, this morning at least we do have some bread choices ready for breakfast  ...  :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:06pm; Reply: 445
Jenny, I hope you are having success with yours.  Notice my rescue attempts above.  I came to the following conclusions (at least until otherwise proven):

1;-If using soy milk based starter we may need to add the sweetener.  It worked with the process described in page 16 for the soy milk one, and it did the trick here too.  

2.-On the other hand, it also seems to work by adding the raw milk based yogurt, the one I made using the Polyflora tablets as explained in previous pages ...

Interesting findings ... If you just use soy milk, the creatures like a bit of swwetness to get them moving.  They do not seem to care where this sweetness comes from, either from a 'normal' type of sweetener like barley malt or honey? or the subtle sweetness of the raw milk yogurt ... ?

:)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, June 24, 2010, 10:30pm; Reply: 446
Of course, this is an on-going process.  I preserved about a cupful of the starter mixture to start a new batch.  I will keep feeding it flour and water for the next few days and so on, so in a week's time I can be making fermented bread again, and so on, and so on ....

Beautiful type A fermented Spelt bread ... so far made using organic white Spelt flour sourced from a HFS or even supermarkets ... I am still waiting for my organic Spelt whole grains, so I can then soak them, dehydrate them just enough to get them dry and be grinded  into my own 'Phytic reduced Spelt flour'!!  The shops around here are unable to get the grain yet due to last year's crop failures in aussieland ...  Aussi forum dwellers, I welcome source names from Qld ... ;D
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:29am; Reply: 447
Thank you for your kind words as always Cristina.  I'm feeling a bit better today, thankyou.  On the improve.  Hope you and yours continue to fight off the bugs, I'd bet on your family winning with the mad scientist / doctor in the house.  ;)

Making your own phytate-reduced wholemeal spelt flour will be brilliant!  I've only been getting the flour from Make it and Bake it at Redcliffe and from The Ironwood Cottage at Sandgate (great for all healthfood especially bulk) and white spelt from Woolies.

Thanks for explaining the steps on here that will help lots of people.

Am taking the molasses Spelt bread breadmaker recipe from the recipe base with me.  Also found this one that has honey and sounds nice, may try it too: http://allrecipes.com.au/recipe/8454/spelt-bread-in-a-breadmaker.aspx

Look forward to chatting when I get back.  Aren't we busy bakers?  Gotta make some bread today myself so I have some in the freezer for when I come back and for the next few days.  Very happy that DH has ditched his commercial fruit cake and since he liked spelt bread so much, asked me to make a fruit loaf for him.  It's taking a long time but he is bending to healthy food (gave up ham / bacon just recently!) and I hope to blood type him while we are away.  If not I'll continue chasing him after he shaves and any other spurting opportunity.   :o (bunny) :)  Chat when I get back.  Keep posting Cristina!  :K)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 25, 2010, 12:39am; Reply: 448
Quoted from Symbi
If not I'll continue chasing him after he shaves and any other spurting opportunity.   :o (bunny) :)  


;D ;D ;D we make a good pair: images of the mad kitchen scientist and thirsty  vampires chasing everyone around the house are hard to beat!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Posted by: Symbi, Friday, June 25, 2010, 1:16am; Reply: 449
;D :) ;)
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, June 25, 2010, 1:22am; Reply: 450
Cristina....you are the best~

I went back and read every word of these 18 pages and all I can say is WOW....It's like learning first hand from a pro...someone who is taking the initiative to learn all she can from trial and error....and boy are you ever teaching us all a lot! I find this all so enlightening

.......... and entertaining!

Can't wait to see more photos.

You obviously love what you're doing....

Notice anything positive yet from the oil pulling?




Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:12am; Reply: 451
Thank you Chloe, you are so kind!!

Here are the photos of this last lot.  This is the one that got triple kneaded, twenty minutes by hand and then twice on the breadmaker (by mistake), knead, rise, knead again, rise again and finally baked in the machine!!  The other smaller loaf that I baked in the oven was gone before I had a chance to take photos.  This one just came of the 'press', all youngsters gone, so it will last us a few days ... she hopes ...



Regarding oil pulling, I am so happy with it!!  It is amazing that we can look after ourselves so well by just doing that, my teeth are so white, and with no brushing, just flossing and OP!  and even after drinking tea and coffee, rinsing mouth with plain water brings the white back out!   I may make an earlier appointment to the dentist one of these days to confirm that there are no new cavities sneaking in with this procedure, so from that point of view I cannot guarantee it to anyone.  But as far as i can see and feel, it works!!  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:46am; Reply: 452
Was just wondering while I was packing and planning and baking.  I know I should be doing something else, so you can tell me to shut up if you like!  ;)

According to this article I found using sourdough reduces phytates dramatically and spelt flour doesn't have many to start with so you may not need to make your own flour!  It also explains some reasons why spelt is so good.  http://www.pkdiet.com/pages/recipes/recipeiweb/recipe/Bread_No_Wheat.html

Also found some articles on what is sourdough http://www.angelfire.com/ab/bethsbread/WhatisSourdough.html

and why it is healthy:
Quoted Text
    * Sourdough bread has a lower glycemic index — a measure of how high and how quickly blood sugar spikes after eating a food — than bread made with commercial yeast. This makes it a better choice for people with, or at risk for, diabetes.
    * Sourdough makes certain minerals (iron, zinc, magnesium, and others) in whole grains more available for absorption by our bodies by facilitating the breakdown of phytic acid, a compound in grain bran that inhibits mineral absorption.
    * Sourdough shows promise for people with celiac disease, which renders people intolerant to gluten. Not only can sourdough improve the taste, texture, and overall sensory quality of breads made with gluten-free flours, but it may also act to degrade or deactivate proteins in gluten that adversely affect gluten-sensitive people.
    * Sourdough makes people happy, thereby diminishing stress, which is good for all-around wellness. (Okay, this one is anecdotal, but I completely believe it, don’t you?)     * Sourdough bread has a lower glycemic index — a measure of how high and how quickly blood sugar spikes after eating a food — than bread made with commercial yeast. This makes it a better choice for people with, or at risk for, diabetes.
    * Sourdough makes certain minerals (iron, zinc, magnesium, and others) in whole grains more available for absorption by our bodies by facilitating the breakdown of phytic acid, a compound in grain bran that inhibits mineral absorption.
    * Sourdough shows promise for people with celiac disease, which renders people intolerant to gluten. Not only can sourdough improve the taste, texture, and overall sensory quality of breads made with gluten-free flours, but it may also act to degrade or deactivate proteins in gluten that adversely affect gluten-sensitive people.
    * Sourdough makes people happy, thereby diminishing stress, which is good for all-around wellness. (Okay, this one is anecdotal, but I completely believe it, don’t you?)


Wow!  :o  Make sourdough bread, live long and prosper!

The low GI component is going to be worth it Jenny, keep trying those wild yeasties will play soon.

Didn't read all of that but it's giving me good reason to try sourdough (except it sometimes gives me a headache - probably the amines).  Gotta go!
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, June 25, 2010, 2:57am; Reply: 453
That is really beautiful bread!!!!
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 25, 2010, 4:35am; Reply: 454
Thanks Chloe, Symbi!  and Symbi, I love those links, thanks.  Actually the Sourdough info is the best i have seen so far, even Nourishing .... does not explain it that well!  Rye flour is black dot for us, but according to that site, once you keep on feeding the starter, the Rye gets eaten and replaced with whatever you use!!  

I think Jenny was going to try the Rye starter, it is quoted as being better fermenting flour, usually giving activity much sooner than any of the other flours ... I have Rye flour and I think I will experiment with it.   See what happens ... Love this classromm ... very nice, friendly, helpful and knowledgeable company ...  :) :)

PS: also, I discovered that my breadmaker allows me to set up my own recipe style, so, soon I should be able to just put the finished starter, flour and water in the machine and let it take care of the whole process ... :)
Posted by: Lola, Friday, June 25, 2010, 6:27am; Reply: 455
not fair!!! ;D

my hub saw the picture.....he s already packing!!! :P
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 25, 2010, 7:03am; Reply: 456
Quoted from Lola
not fair!!! ;D


you mean about the breadmaker?

Quoted from Lola
...my hub saw the picture.....he s already packing!!! :P


you mean trying to run away from the thristy vampires?
;D ;D

or, maybe I missed the plot altogether?   ;D ;D


Posted by: Munchkin76, Friday, June 25, 2010, 8:03am; Reply: 457
Cristina, well done - you're bread looks amazing.  It's brilliant that you're sharing your learnings with us all so we can benefit!!  I can't wait to get started!

I think Lola meant that you're bread looks so amazing that her husband's jumping on the next plane to Brissie to come help you eat it  ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, June 25, 2010, 9:09am; Reply: 458
;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 12:50am; Reply: 459
As part of this ongoing kitchen re-arrangements I am going through, I now have an area in the kitchen, easily visible, where I keep all my beans, nuts and grains in the process of soaking as well as my culture fermenting jugs.

At the moment I have black beans, pinto beans, pearl barley, quinoa and basmatic rice soaking in their own jars in water with a couple of drops of lemon juice (since this morning); walnuts and almonds soaking with a few grains of salt (since yesterday) and two jugs of fermenting culture (ferment bread starter).

I have a spreadsheet with two worksheets: one for soaking info and another one for fermenting info.  I record the date and whatever action I take for each item.

Something on these lines:

Soaking worksheet:
date      Time     Item         action
25/6/10   8am      Adzuki beans   soak with lemon water
25/6/10   8am      Pinto beans    soak with lemon water
25/6/10   8pm      Basmatic rice  soak with lemon water
26/6/10   8pm      Almond         soak with salt
26/6/10   8pm      Walnuts        soak with salt
26/6/10   10am     Pinto beans    rinse and change water no lemon
26/6/10   noon     Almond         took some to dehydrate
26/6/10   noon     Walnuts        took some to dehydrate


Culture worksheet:
25/6/10            Start Spelt A ferment big Jug
25/6/10            Start Rye  A ferment small Jug
26/6/10            Add flour and water big Jug
26/6/10            Add flour and water small Jug

I will also use this worksheet to keep track of my yogurt making and any other concoctions I indulge in (nut milks, grain milks, fruit and vegie ferments ...)

Will keep posting here until admins kick me out!!   ;) :P :) ;D
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 4:45am; Reply: 460
it will all become second nature to you, no worries! ;)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 6:42am; Reply: 461
Cristina, I so admire your focus and commitment!!  Sounds like quite a production line - you could be the next health food magnate on the Sunny Coast  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 9:15am; Reply: 462
I am on a mission all right!  I am trying to give myself the best possible way of putting into practice my SwamiX recommendations.  Reducing Phytic acid, just reducing it, not eliminating it,  is part of the plan.  Too much of it will block the absorption of essential minerals my body needs to help me stay healthy and lose weight.  With 8 servings a week of vegie proteins and 3 servings a day of carbohydrates, even after these interventions, there is still plenty Phytic acid to perform its known good functions for the body.  

Also, I love the functionality of it all:  Soaked rice takes a lot less to cook, requires less fluid (my broth last longer) and tastes nicer.  Ditto for nuts and beans.   And, it is all there, always available, ready to use, with a feeling of plentiful that takes away the worry of unexpected visitors popping in at dinner time.  it is always easy and quick to prepare meals and with lots of variety.  Besides it also looks nice, all those jars fill with color and texture that only beans, nuts and grains can give, it makes the kitchen look warmer and cosier, a lot more welcoming ...  :)  
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 9:25am; Reply: 463
Quoted from Cristina
all those jars fill with color and texture that only beans, nuts and grains can give, it makes the kitchen look warmer and cosier, a lot more welcoming ...  :)  
I used to love having glass jars filled with all sorts of coloured beans etc in my kitchen too!! Very attractive ;)

Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 10:40am; Reply: 464
but now, I suppose from an 'O' perspective it does not justify having them anymore ... maybe a bit more animal protein instead?  Jars of jerkins, dry fruit, fermented vegies and fruits still ok ...  ??)
Posted by: Possum, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 10:51am; Reply: 465
Most I go to these days are jars of nuts & one of raisins...(for DH)
Haven't got into the fermented vegies just yet...I have only recently progressed from no longer having inadvertently fermenting vegies in the fridge... ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 10:52am; Reply: 466
;D
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 3:56pm; Reply: 467
next project Christina
make your own sprouted flour mixes to add a touch of uniqueness and extra nutrition to all your baked sourdough goods!

sprouting grains, legumes, seeds
dehydrating and grinding into flours.....
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 4:01pm; Reply: 468
Quoted from Dr. D
We're related!


WOW!  same Haplogroup on my mother's side as Dr D's!!  The path got brighter, lights on all the way to optimum health!!
:) :)

And with that, being 2:00am, with the breadmaker working on my instructions to make us Spelt fermented bread and amidst hubby's excitement with Uruguay going through to next round in soccer, it is time to call it a day!  Another 100% compliant wonderful, inspiring day ... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 4:05pm; Reply: 469
Yes, Lola, thanks for the suggestion.  I was hopping to get Spelt grain, but cannot yet, at least from my usual sources,  they keep on saying next month, next month for the last couple of months ...

I will seriously look into it tomorrow, check our grains lists, see what alternatives  we have ...
:)
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 4:45pm; Reply: 470
http://www.dadamo.com/B2blogs/blogs/index.php/2007/01/06/internal-archeology?blog=24
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, June 26, 2010, 10:52pm; Reply: 471
Thanks Lola, fascinating stuff all right!  Got to get organised with my Y side of things now ... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, June 28, 2010, 11:28am; Reply: 472
Regarding the fermented bread:

Yesterday I baked one in the breadmaker, set it up manually, experimenting, it has like 3 raising times and kneading times,  I set it to knead for 30 first, then 5 minutes and gave it a lot of time in between to rise, like an hour the first time and 40 minutes the second time ...

The final product was very nice.  

1.- height: It raised quite a bit, but not as much as my previous breads, this one was about a couple of centimetres below the top of the container, the previous ones were right at the top of it.  
2.- Texture: This one is more dense, not as crumby as previous ones that received a lot more kneading time
3.- this one is sweeter, not as soury as the others.  You would not know you are eating a sourbread ...

I can see that the more you knead the loaves, the lighter the texture, the crumbier they become ...

I have 4 cultures going on at the moment ... a couple I started with just Rye flour and water, no yogurt, hope the yeast pores are well established now at home ...

Got myself a couple of extra glass bowls to ferment extra vegies and do a fruit kimchi (love this dish, is delisioso with all that ferment good for our guts!!).

Got some plain wholewheat grains to sprout as well ...

We have been eating pinto beans, black beans, soy beans, ...  soak them for many hours (over 24), with a little bit of lemon juice, not too much or it affects the taste ... then cook them slowly on crock pot ... rinse and mixed them with  sauces, grains,  something a different colour and texture every day!!
:)
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 3:07am; Reply: 473
Quoted from Symbi


Wow!  :o  Make sourdough bread, live long and prosper!

The low GI component is going to be worth it Jenny, keep trying those wild yeasties will play soon.

Symbi, thanks for that information and for the suppport; yes, my babies have started to grow healthily I think. They are about 7 days old now, in a rye starter, sitting in a heavy ex-coffee jar, tall, in a water bath in an old slow cooker that only works on the lowest level. I don't cover them at all now, as I need to stalk as many wild yeasts as I have in my house!
I am very tempted to do a loaf today, and have to decide whether to do the
manual or machine process.
I am very confident about the rye starter even though the person for whom I am making this is not a rye eater, because the literature says somewhere that it is transformed in the process. Basically I will be after the most pure and healthy spelt/sourdough combination. Once you start searching you do find that spelt is considered better than modern wheat, and sourdough much better than commercial yeast. Slow cooking rules! :P I see that there is no useful sourdough material in recipe central yet, so maybe it is time? Maybe all of this on this project will contribute our best efforts in succinct form?
I hope to have good news very soon.
Jenny

Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 3:16am; Reply: 474
Dear Jenny, Symbi, Poss, others,

I have started another thread dedicated to fermenting, sourdough or vegies , etc, ... and another one for sprouting ....  I think it makes sense ... I am transferring all relevant posts to it, so do not worry about transferring yours from here, I will do it in a quote ...  I will be posting on and off today, while I sneak away from Metta and another of her re-arranging kitchen episodes ....  :o ;D ;D ;D :) :) :)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Wednesday, June 30, 2010, 9:07am; Reply: 475
Brilliant idea, thanks again Cristina!
Posted by: Raquel, Thursday, July 1, 2010, 10:40am; Reply: 476
Wow Cristina I saw your bread, great pics, you are a fantastic chefff!!! ;)

I just made mine in a machine!!!
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, July 3, 2010, 6:11pm; Reply: 477
Thanks Raquel!!  Which one did you make? How was it?

With all my cooking experiences now in the other fermenting / sprouting thread I have not been here for a few days.  

I am still very much following my SwamiX faithful to the diet and consistent with the exercising (mainly walking).  I have been using my supps only as needed, it has been a couple of days I have not had any though, but I have been compensating with all that fermenting goodness in my diet lately ....

One thing I have been really lacking lately is sleep.  Due to watching World cup soccer at odd times of the night for us (due to time difference) find myself punishing my body in that aspect, to the point that yesterday I had been fighting a nagging headache ... I attributed it to lack of sleep and not drinking enough water (noticed that on my toilet visit, too dark waters ...)  It is amazing how easy it is to dehydrate and not notice it, unless you make sure you pay attention to the signs, like the visits to the toilet ... So the dehydration part was easily fixed with a few sips of water a few times in the hour.  That helped with the headache a bit, but having a few hours sleep during the day was what really fixed it!!  Obviously the body is talking ...

I am feeling clear headed, alert, calm, finding it so much easier to relax, to fall asleep the moment my head hits the pillow, finding less and less need to use my pinhole glasses (the odd Occubright supps are helping here - should use it more often (the Occubright supps), I am on a half dosage about 3 times a week, I should try that every day instead, at least for a month or so ...).  :)

Besides the fermented breads, including the lentil one, I had up my intake of beans and lentils this week.  Onions, garlic, turmeric and ginger are on my plate every day,  broccoli, bok choi, carrots and baby capsicums (little bell peppers) and zuccinis interchange on daily basis too ... Rice is usually part of the daily menu, although in the last couple of days used the bread more ... try not to overload on carbs although swami is asking me to have them at least 3 times a day ... easily done!  ;)

Peanut butter, honey on rice cakes (that is where the rice has gone!!- should try to make my own rice cakes - recipe somewhere?) use for the very early breaky most days,  home made granola others ... crushed flax seeds get sprinkled on breakfast meals ...

I am suppose to have an egg at day... have not been doing that much lately ... easy meal for hubby to cook when I am not feeling so goo (like yesterday headachy), he brings me a boil egg to nourish me ...  :K)  :)

I normally cook with ghee and garnish with olive oil, tamari sauce and flax seed oil ...

Fish, fish, fish, where is it?  again, lacking a bit there ... should have 4 times a week ... not able to get it fresh  (do I live at the seaside?!!) ... got frozen salmon  in the freezer ... will do something with it today ...

Easier to buy and cook tempeh, love it, organic, easy, quick, complete protein, fermented goodness and yummy!!

It is important to use variety to cover all groups though ... I try to follow that, but sometimes get stuck on certain foods without even noticing I am doing it ...

Good to stop and take stock every now and then ... :)
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, July 4, 2010, 1:01am; Reply: 478
Quoted from Cristina
It is important to use variety to cover all groups though ... I try to follow that, but sometimes get stuck on certain foods without even noticing I am doing it ...
Good to stop and take stock every now and then ... :)
Great reminder there... I get stuck on similar meals due to: only being the two of us here, having to take easy meals to work, that don't need heating or cooking (only have microwave which I hate using) & Mr P sometimes eating out (which leaves me having to use up leftovers) Also trying still to work out what effects me least... ::)
Btw you're doing great!! ;)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 4, 2010, 1:07am; Reply: 479
.. and you have been doing a great detective work on yourself!!!  Hope that marks the end of your nose bleeds and you are mending well too!!  :)
Posted by: Possum, Sunday, July 4, 2010, 1:20am; Reply: 480
Feeling good thanks..It's fantastic here in Welly!! NO WIND & plenty of sun! First dry weekend for a month...I'm gonna go for a walk..Umm first walk for *oops*.... many months!! ::) lol
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 4, 2010, 1:22am; Reply: 481
Great!! and then tick it in one of the exercise threads, or start one for the Os like MF did for As ...  Good motivation to keep things moving ... ;) :)
Posted by: deblynn3, Sunday, July 4, 2010, 2:11am; Reply: 482
Quoted from Cristina
but now, I suppose from an 'O' perspective it does not justify having them anymore ... maybe a bit more animal protein instead?  Jars of jerkins, dry fruit, fermented vegies and fruits still ok ...  ??)


I like the spaghetti jars. I have all my rice paste, and a few beans on 4in deep shelves that ken made. Also have Republic of tea shelve with canisters. Pots and pans hang on a rod iron hanger down one side. A narrow table for my mixer and large cutting board, and canisters for flours. Haven't gotten all finish but really like the country look. Hadn't thought about dried nuts and fruit. (think)

Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 4, 2010, 8:50pm; Reply: 483
I love that look you are describing for your kitchen deblynn3 ... My kind of look ... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 4, 2010, 9:05pm; Reply: 484
Update on oral hygiene:

I continue with my flossing and OP, I do a variety of oils, sometimes sesame or sunflower (neutrals) other times olive oil (super food) ... Still OP twice a day, first thing in the morning on waking up and then last thing at night before bedtime ...

The morning session is the one I use for detoxifying, for as long as I can hold it, 20 minutes or more ... Then follow with a very good rinse, swirling water around for another 2 to 4 minutes depending on mood ... ;)

The evening OP is a lot shorter, mainly because I find it hard not to have drank or eat anything for 4 hours before as suggested in original OP techniques ... I floss and then OP for 10 or 15 at the most, rinse well again with plain water and off to get my beauty sleep ...

I am the only one in the house rigorously following this technique, and my teeth compete very well in brightness and whiteness with rest of the household.  Good hygiene, without harshness of chemichals, glycerines, additives and who knows what else find in toothpaste concotions ... and ... it is portable and very economical, using ingredients I always have at hand ...

Forgot to mention sometimes I do water brush, very gently on my teeth.

In the early routine, half an hour to an hour later, I followed it up with a warm glass of lemon juice and a good rinse of the mouth ...

Another half an hour or so later I am ready for early walk and then breakfast ...  Somewhere in amongst all this I fit in my early morning relaxation ...   :)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 9:21am; Reply: 485
A couple of uses for my leftover Almond pulp from making almond milk:

Mama's Almond and Spelt kisses:

1/2 c honey
1/2 c oil
1 tabsp vanilla paste
2 medium size free range eggs
1 cup almond pulp
1 cup spelt flour
(rice or almond milk if needed)

Mix honey, oil, vanilla and eggs to a uniform mixture
Add the almond and flour to it
Mix everything very well, it should be fairly wet, like thick pancake mix 9use milk to wet if needed, my almond pulp was fairly wet, so i did not need to use milk)
Poured into well battered 24 small muffin tinned tray

Yummy!!!

Mamma's soyben and Almond savory loaf:

4 cups cooked soy beans
1 cup almond pulp
1/3 cup sesame seeds
1/3 cup soaked and drained flax seeds
1 cup chopped onions
some chopped parsley
some spices (cummin, rosemary, ginger, oregano, thyme)
some Tamari
Ghee for cooking onions and parsley


sautee onions and parsley in ghee
mix with beans, almond, sesame seeds, flax seeds, spices and Tamari sauce
Grind this mixture into smooth paste.  I used my Oscar to masticate it and spit it out  directly onto a loaf pan,
sprinkle with a bit more Tamari
Bake in 350F (just under 200C) oven for about 1 hour.

It is in the oven now, will let you know how it tastes tomorrow morning
:)



Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 9:39am; Reply: 486
Have you tried using Barley instead of rice for a risotto?

WOW, we tried that today for lunch.  I had run out of rice but remembered I had cooked my barley last night, after soaking the grains for a few days, had it in a glass jar in the fridge ... Mixed it with a few vegies (you know, my staples: red onion, carrot, bell pepper), plus turmeric, tamari and ginger ...

Served with a bit of parmesan cheese

Yum, yum, kids though it was creamy risotto!!



Then for dinner, I also used about a cupful of cooked barley I had left, mixed it with some brown lentils, shredded rutagaba, red beets, red onion, bell pepper, tamari, ginger curry and Vegemite (yeast paste).  The result was a red, deep blood red vegie mixture with sweet savory taste in a creamy texture melting in the mouth ...

Interestingly enough DGS had two big serves of this dish, but it was a strugle to get dear gand daughter to even try it, I think the red colour in her plate put her off  :o

Anyway, she had tried mama's almond and spelt kisses earlier, so we bargain that she could take some to school tomorrow if she at least tried her dinner ...  She did, and ate most of her serve ...  Kids!!!

If you want to give your sauces a creamy texture and barley is part of your compliance, give it a try for either savory or sweet sauces ...  :)
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 9:42am; Reply: 487
I used to regularly use barley in place of rice when we were first married - can't remember why I stopped :-/
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, July 6, 2010, 9:50am; Reply: 488
It is a super food for all of us, warriors and teachers Swami householders here!  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 8, 2010, 12:36am; Reply: 489
A few more days to return to normal routine! So looking forward to normal sleeping hours again ...   ;D  It has been good fun though!! and the supps have been helping ...

Still soaking nuts, sprouting and fermenting most everything ... wok cooking, slow cooking, ... far cry from a few months back ... it will soon be a year here ... true way of life ... love it!! :)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 8, 2010, 5:02am; Reply: 490
Uruguay s team gave quite a battle!!! :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 8, 2010, 6:34am; Reply: 491
yes, it will be over this weekend!!  and then we can sleep!!!  2 more matches to go: Holland vs Spain, Uruguay vs Germany!!  Let the best teams win!!! and losers also ought to be congratulated for even getting this far: top 4 in the world!! We are all in for a soccer treat!!!  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:20am; Reply: 492
Quoted Text
It is in the oven now, will let you know how it tastes tomorrow morning


Oh well, that 'Mama's soybean and Almond loaf' has been sitting in the fridge for the last two days, absorbing all the flavors and aging into heavenly taste!!

We just had it for dinner, hubby and I, and loved it!! Just about ate half of it between the two of us!!  accompany with stir fried zucchinis and broccoli on ghee and tamari, that was all!!  Wonderful meal!!

Earlier for lunch we had some cheese and apple ... it was a quick one! too busy to feel hungry or elaborate any other meals ...

No supps today  :o  OK, a day off them here and there is fine,  eating compliance, drinking enough water, walking, keeping mind busy, learning new skills in the kitchen (like cleaning my Skippy flour mill for the first time in years!!!, but that is another story!). ;) :)

Lovely day!!   :)
Posted by: Possum, Thursday, July 8, 2010, 9:25am; Reply: 493
Sounds terrific!! Glad you had a rewarding meal after all your efforts... ;)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, July 8, 2010, 10:29am; Reply: 494
And I'm glad that you share your efforts with us.... you're inspiring and it's great to hear about all your successes (even the ones that don't seem like successes at the time)  ;)
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, July 8, 2010, 4:02pm; Reply: 495
wow.....imagine if Spain and Germany get to play again!!!!
wouldn t that be the optimal revenge for Germany??? ;)

as you can tell.....Ich bin ein Berliner!!!  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 8, 2010, 7:30pm; Reply: 496
;) ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, July 10, 2010, 8:28pm; Reply: 497
yes, Lola, and Congratulations are in order!!!  Germany conquered its 3rd placing against Uruguay!!  Great match!  ... Now, it is one more to go, I think tomorrow, the battle for the top spot between Holland and Spain!! ... I wonder if I can book these excitement calories burnt outs in the exercise thread?  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, July 10, 2010, 10:50pm; Reply: 498
Time checking: it is now 8:50am Sunday, 11 July 2010 here ... getting confused with the date and time shown on these posts ... :D
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, July 11, 2010, 12:47am; Reply: 499
great game Uruguay performed!!! 4th place is very acceptable and worthy of applause! :)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, July 11, 2010, 12:49am; Reply: 500
here it was around 7 pm, when you posted, still Saturday though :)......almost 8 in NY....for reference
Posted by: cajun, Sunday, July 11, 2010, 6:56pm; Reply: 501
Cristina,

Congrats on a great Aussie athlete, Cadel Evans! He is the current leader of Le Tour de France! :D
I'm afraid Lance Armstrong has fallen so far back now due to 2 crashes today! He will  now support his team mate Levi, who is in 8th place.
They are in one of my favorite spots in France, the Jura, in the Alps.
I think I need to go out and ride my bike now! ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 11, 2010, 7:53pm; Reply: 502
Thanks for the great news!!!  We have been so engrossed on the soccer world cup, that have err to check the tour!!!  unforgiven!!!  I hope I do get to see some of it after today, how much longer before it ends?  and yes, we do see lots of bike riders around here, hope you did grab yours!!!  :)
Posted by: cajun, Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:22pm; Reply: 503
Yes indeed! :)
The Tour lasts 3 weeks total. We are in the second week..mostly Alps and Haute Provence.
Next week will see it in the Pyrenees, up the Atlantic coast a little then on to the finish on the Champs Elysee in Paris. We have daily replays here in the States, hopefully in Australia, too? The scenery alone is worth watching! :D
Hows the hunt for home gym equipment? Productive, I hope. :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 11, 2010, 9:28pm; Reply: 504
I cannot get free to air TV in my acreage, so I do not know if they are showing it in normal TV, but I can easily tune into some of my pay TV channels, there is bound to be one showing it, I have flicked through it before!!!  And yes, the scenery alone is worth watching!!!  Lucky french!!!  ;D

Still on the hot trail for gym equipment, I am going to another place to check their equipment this morning and hopefully we may then be ready to make decision ... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 15, 2010, 6:35am; Reply: 505
it has been a few days without checking in here.

Lola, thanks for the time update!  I worked out that I need to add 10hrs to whatever date and time is shown on the posts to see when they were posted.  Sometimes I use that as reference for the many things I have going ... forget to record on my books, but I am bound to have been here chatting away, that I can remember and refer to better .., :) ;D

I have been naughty for the last 10 days or so, no supps at all, but I have been eating and drinking very well, and also keeping active ... Eating lots of fermented goodies, yogurts, savory bean loaves and my yummy heavenly fermented, no-knead breads!!!  Soon I will have my sauerkrat and fermented parsley and cucumber combo plus the fruit kinchi, which is already in the fridge, ready to serve.   ;D

I am also very proud of myself!  DD took me to the movies last night to see 'Knight and Day'.  The one with Cameron Diaz and Tom Cruise ... 6:30pm show.  In preparation, I packed  a couple of my oats, buckwheat biscuits and a handful of soaked almonds and dates.  Plus I managed to hide my bottle of water in my handbag as well!! DD wanted to shout me drinks and lollies from the movie shop, but I kindly refused.  I felt so good munching on my goodies, enjoying the lighthearted, almost histerically ridicoulus Tom's stunts in the movie and my DD's company ... that I only had a glimpse of a moment to feel sad for all those other movie goers  munching and drinking their avoids  (sugar loaded, fat overloaded and chemically enhanced food items on sale) :P ;D :)

Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 15, 2010, 6:38am; Reply: 506
I have also been enjoying a bit of the Tour le France ... Lovely views all right!!! ... will come back later, got to get ready for puppy school tonight!!!  :)
Posted by: 10384 (Guest), Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:12am; Reply: 507
OK, my new goal for the day is to read this thread from start to finish.  I am nearly done with what I can answer on my own SWAMI.  Have to redo my fingerprints, I did a lousy job yesterday using the ink and paper at work.  Will try again today.  I pressed way too hard and had too much ink on my fingers.  But I *did* notice that I have white lines on my fingerprints!  They are not white on my fingers but in the prints.  So *thats* why Dr. D called them white lines.  I always thought he meant *on* the fingers themselves.  Duh!  

My daughter is studying to be a medical lab technician and had to draw blood from many people last semester, so I am going to talk to her this weekend about the serotyping panel.  Maybe she could do it for me or at least give me some info.  Last resort is going to my doctor.  He's about 5 years younger than me, very fit, and highly energetic.  He's the "just eat healthy" type, but has a pretty open mind.  Especially if he sees results.  I would assume he could order the A1/A2, Lewis, and MN, but we'll see.  If not, surely he knows what this is and can point me in the right direction.  If he's completely clueless, I'm gonna rub it in his face and call him an ignoramus.   ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 15, 2010, 11:42am; Reply: 508
Adam, regarding the fingerprints, I use my scanner, they are a lot easier to read on the screen and you can blow them up to desired size ....  Try first without pressing too hard on the glass, just let it rest ... that worked for me ... others find it easier by pressing harder ...  see how you go ...

Yes, it is a complete new language this lifestyle here!! I am still deciphering some of the jargon ... But the discoveries are worth it!!!   ;DGood luck with your doc ...  ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 15, 2010, 1:25pm; Reply: 509
Before I go to bed (yawning) I just got to share this wonderful moment!! My Zuri was assessed at puppy school and got promoted to the next level of obedience training!!! She was the first one in the group to achieve this, and the youngest!!

All of a sudden I realized that we could not have achieved this without:

I, Reaching a high enough level of balanced energy to allow open flow communication between puppy and I.  Meditation, relaxation, (alternate nostril breathing) ...  

I, Demonstrating endurance when I was able to keep up with the training requirements and physically control a boisterous 7 months old puppy that when it stands in two legs reaches past my shoulders!!! Being active, walking, exercising with fun, maintaining a healthy diet that nourishes bones and mass ...

I, Maintaining a consistant level of compliance to true to type lifestyle that saw me conquering bad lab results and replacing them with positive ones in a very short time.  

It has been nearly a year, and in this lifestyle journey I not only expect to reach optimal health status at my destination, but I also get to uncover who I truly am on my way there.  Also, the beauty of it all is that, as you can see tonight, I get to enjoy the journey all the way there!!!  By diligently applying the formula laid out for my lifestyle I can truly enjoy life ... thanks Dr D for showing me this way of life ... Yes, I am going to bed feeling a little be prouder of myself tonight !!!    ;D :)
Posted by: 10384 (Guest), Thursday, July 15, 2010, 6:24pm; Reply: 510
Quoted from Cristina
Adam, regarding the fingerprints, I use my scanner, they are a lot easier to read on the screen and you can blow them up to desired size ....  Try first without pressing too hard on the glass, just let it rest ... that worked for me ... others find it easier by pressing harder ...  see how you go ...

Yes, it is a complete new language this lifestyle here!! I am still deciphering some of the jargon ... But the discoveries are worth it!!!   ;DGood luck with your doc ...  ;) :)


DUH!!!  I've got a scanner and I will use that.  Excellent!  *rubbing hands together*  (just don't rub your fingerprints off, Adam)

Posted by: cajun, Friday, July 16, 2010, 3:02am; Reply: 511
Cristina,

I know that you are mostly compliant with your diet...but...when you have strayed, what happens?
I am curious because I have been very strict on my GT teacher diet for 2 months ( BTD for one year before that ) and today I went off BIG time! :-/
My Mom and I enjoyed lunch at a Victorian Tea House. I had a small green salad and small bowl of fresh seasonal fruit with assorted finger sandwiches and wonderful tea.
Finally we savored a lucious berry scone with Devonshire cream, lemon curd and  berry preserves. Oh, then a small piece of lemon bar and shortbread cookie.
Within 1 hour I began to feel nausea! :P I have not had yeast or gluten in 2 months so I wonder if that was the main culprit???? :-/
What do you think? ::)
I did take a Deflect as soon as I got home and am feeling better now...7 hours later!
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, July 16, 2010, 3:53am; Reply: 512
You are talking to a non-gluten sensitive person here.  For me, the sugar, the cream and the fat would have been enough to have me retching for days!!!!

Obviously, although Teachers, we have different needs.  I say, it was a combination of all, and on hindshight, you would probably make better choices next time. But, hey, life is life, so do not beat yourself around it, bad genes feed on that, fogging your brain with guilt so they can sneak in easily.  Instead, take it as a learning experience and resolve to embrace your true type fully in all situations from now on!

In those rare occasions when I consiously allowed black dots in, or avoids sneaked in, my bowel movements will let me know pretty soon!!! Even with beneficials, if I overindulge in fats and cheese particularly, I notice!!! It used to be worse with a lot of brain fogginess (bad genes love that because that is when we cannot make clear decisions, staying on the negative side of things, beating ourselves and becoming the easy prey for them), routines go out the window and meal and exercise plan suffer.  So when face with these bouts of not compliance, I pay attention, and like you, I immediately go into repair mode: Deflect, Polyflora, yogurts, chamomile teas, fermented food like tempeh, turmeric, lots of stir fry vegies, and water drinking ... I suggest to stay double hydrated because the body will be in detox mode trying to get rid of the toxins ... and try to meditate more and keep moving ... I know the repair process worked when I come out of that toilet visit with a big smile on my face.  :"Back to normal", hubby comments, and he smiles too, I think he does not feel safe when I stray from my 'true to type' mode, I usually let the household know!!  ;D
Posted by: 10384 (Guest), Friday, July 16, 2010, 11:49am; Reply: 513
Yep, nothing like a toilet visit to put a big smile on my face.   ;D

Love this thread, Cristina.  :)
Posted by: cajun, Friday, July 16, 2010, 8:10pm; Reply: 514
OHHHHH thank you Cristina! :)

I did do the polyflora, deflect, water and yogurt. I knew you would know what is best for these teacher genes! ;) I actually am going to do SWAMI next so I can be sure.

I did get over the nausea but wow, did my sinuses let me know I was a naughty girl! :P

OK...off to walk then Yoga later today! Thanks so much Cristina! :)

Just curious...what breed is Zuri?
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, July 16, 2010, 8:53pm; Reply: 515
Ahh, Rodhesian Ridgeback, I have to update that photo!

And, I forgot about that mucousy thing at the back of my throat!!! That is something that flares up early enough if something is no good in the diet, stress or lifestyle in general!!! The oral hygiene, lemon water drinking and appropriate protocols come in handy too.  I am also coming  from a background or bleeding ulcer a year or so after I got married!!!  Healed up pretty quick though!!!  All in the past, I am now here and feeling great!! ;D :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, July 16, 2010, 10:31pm; Reply: 516
I do not have time now, off to shopping!! But I just had for breakfast the most delicious sourdough pikelets!!! except that they do not taste like sourdough at all!!!!

Now I know what to do with the excess starter!!!  Back later this arvo!!!   ;D ;D
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, July 17, 2010, 6:01am; Reply: 517
give away starter to your neighbors......or bake all the bread, slice up and freeze.....

pop for a few minutes in oven, frozen.....tastes like freshly baked
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, July 17, 2010, 6:03am; Reply: 518
Well I am back!!!  ;D ;D ;D ;D see the grin?  ;D ;D ;D ;D shopping was good!!!  the goodies will be here on Tuesday ...  No more excuses about not exercising  ... or walking .... or jogging .... or strengthening .... ;D I need something to calm me down!!!

Back to my pikelets: I have posted the recipe in the Fermenting and sprouting thread ... ;D

I will make some more for the kids breakfast tomorrow morning !!!!  

No lunch today, just munching on dates and soaked nuts,   3:30pm here already so, a couple of slices spelt bread and peanut butter will keep us going to tonight ... I will have to have some supps to complement this crazy day ... nice day ...

Not worry about the weight so much, it is the bone density, joint flexibility and balanced metabolic rate that I am trying to look after.  I will weigh myself before I first set foot on my new equipment, just to mark this milestone moment of becoming more in tune with my Swami Xpress requirements ...  :) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, July 17, 2010, 9:36am; Reply: 519
Thanks Lola for all those suggestions, duly noted!!

I said it earlier, I had been naughty with my supps and today even with my meals, hardly ate until dinner.  Before that I went outside to give Zuri and myself (since we did not do our daily walk today due to shopping trip) a good run ... Well I managed to exhaust her to the point of crashing in the couch (zuri, not me) and she is fast asleep now.  Lucky her!!  I had to prepard dinner and for the first time in months felt a bit light headed!!  ding dong ding dong,  warning signs bells!!!!

So, even before we served the meals I had all my supps lined up:

Calm Focus Pack: Tranquility Base, Attentia and Methyl 12 Plus (to reduce stress caused by lack of sleep from a month of soccer waltching, messing up meals schedules due to shopping research for home gyms equipment and lots of changes at home with new buildings coming up ... extra householders, kids running around (forgot what all that was like)

Histona and Cortiguard to aid in circulation, to complement Tranquility base to help metabolise cortisol.

Occubright, something I like to have regularly (but have not for a few days) to keep my eyesight healthy and improving ...

Deflect to scrub things inside and shake out toxins built by stressing the body

Polyflora to re-inforce the good beasties in the gut.

I think I have not been drinking enough water either, got to go back to filling my 4 bottles and use that as a guide ... You think you are on top, and then things go heywire without noticing  I have noticed a bit of dryness in my elbows, not the usual supple, silky skin feeling I am used to ...

Oh well, no need to beat my head against the wall ... at least I know what to do now ... and the stress this time is originated out of having too much fun .. . soccer, shopping, family together ....  I did enjoyed all that ... We As should do more nostril breathing, relaxation, so we can fully enjoy our excitements ...  ;) :) :)
Posted by: cajun, Saturday, July 17, 2010, 11:35pm; Reply: 520
I am excited for you to begin this new journey! Happy activity!

Do you take the Basic Pack for A's and the Teacher pack?

OK, so the excess mucous may be telling me something else is wrong..not necessarily because I had a sliver of cheese or small amount of gluten?
Will Swami help figure out if I actually am gluten/ yeast intolerant?

You did something right to bounce back from a bleeding ulcer!!!!! :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 18, 2010, 1:08am; Reply: 521
All I remember from that time is that the doc had given me some revolting white stuff to drink before every meal.  Oh my gosh!! Did I suffer trying to swallow that!!! and I was in a very bland diet with lots of chicken broth, boiled chicken, everything mushed up,  no meat ... I cannot remember much else ... like a curtain covering that ...  

I do remember to be very determined to beat that, and do whatever needed to be done to  get back to health ... that was probably the catalist that got me interested in self sufficiency, organic, health, ... on an off ... periods of vegetarian, meat eating, vegan ... and then I find this ... thank you!!! :)

These days I hardly have any mucous at all, certainly no sinuses or colds, while all my nonnies in the household tend to show more of those signs ... If I get them is that feeling at the back of the throw of wanting to drag it out and spit it out!!! Glad I have that under control now!!!

No basic pack A as such, but I do use my supps depending on what I am doing, what I am going through at the moment, how I am feeling, what my environment is like.  I may then have the immune pack if everyone around starts going down or going to crowded places, or deflects if eating out or under stress, or calm focus pack and cortiguard if stressed out.  I have the joint pack too which I have not used yet, but I will start it this week, probably tomorrow Monday, in preparation for my new exercise regime!!!  Polyflora when I realize i have not eaten much yogurt and if I miss on my vegies I boost with the multivitamins ...  Sometimes things creep in without noticing, so the supps come in retrospective mode, but other times I can guess the situation, or know what is coming and I prepare accordingly ... In between all these I do have my teachers pack and then, I start feeling great, get on top with my meals and lifestyle and go a few days without supps.  I try not to have too many supps in the one day unless strictly necessary.  Get the value for money without neglecting my health.

It is call active health monitoring ... do what needs to be done whenever according to me with the guidance from here of course!!!  ;) :)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 18, 2010, 1:16am; Reply: 522
Sunday today and I baked thosed pikelets again. DGD loved them!!!

Supps:
Calm Focus Pack, Occubright, Polyflora soon after a home made granola breakfast with soy milk.

Coffee and pikelets for mid morning

Decided to put the gym equipment right here in the main lunch/TV room where my office is also.  We spend quite a bit of $$ in these I want to have them where I can see and use in an environment I enjoy.  The garage area, the way it is at the moment will not entice me to go and exercise.  I just want to make sure there is positive energy flow while doing this, not a chore, but enjoyment to complement my diet and relaxation activities.  

So I spend a few calories again today re-arranging furniture to make room for my goodies, well, our goodies, DH will be using them too, I hope so, probably not as often as I because he burns his calories with jobs around the property anyway, lifting heavy things, and so ...  This will be more for his 'off' days ...  :)

Cajun, also, thanks for the wishes  :) :)
Posted by: cajun, Sunday, July 18, 2010, 8:59pm; Reply: 523
Cristina,

I like your idea of using the supps as needed. Even with the Basic Pack for BT A I only have one per day as opposed to 2 per meal! As you said, if I felt sickly I can always "ramp" it up! ;)  :)

Hey, I will be thinking of you when I am "dancing" on my treadmill! :D
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, July 19, 2010, 9:16am; Reply: 524
Supps today:

Cortiguard before I went out to do some chores, get the car serviced, ...

Occubright

Tonight after dinner:
Polyflora, Polyvite, ClearCal, Methyl 12 ...

There is such a splash of colour inside my fridge these days, with the pinks of the fermented red and green cabbage (sauerkrat), the greens of fermented Celery and cucumber, soaking black beans, jelly-like chicken stock, creamy white of cooked pearl barley ... while in a warm corner in a kitchen shelf the little beasties  in the buckwheat and spelt starters snuggle under the protection of (new) knee highs!  ;) ;D

I am double exicted today because I have discovered a butcher in a neighboring town, that is able to supply grass fed, guaranteed no hormone or nasties Tasmanian Lamb!! As soon as we get us a freezer big enough to held a lamb or two, we will order some. :)
Posted by: Possum, Monday, July 19, 2010, 10:04am; Reply: 525
Quoted from Cristina
Supps today:

Cortiguard before I went out to do some chores, get the car serviced, ...

Occubright

Tonight after dinner:
Polyflora, Polyvite, ClearCal, Methyl 12 ...

There is such a splash of colour inside my fridge these days, with the pinks of the fermented red and green cabbage (sauerkrat), the greens of fermented Celery and cucumber, soaking black beans, jelly-like chicken stock, creamy white of cooked pearl barley ... while in a warm corner in a kitchen shelf the little beasties  in the buckwheat and spelt starters snuggle under the protection of (new) knee highs!  ;) ;D

I am double exicted today because I have discovered a butcher in a neighboring town, that is able to supply grass fed, guaranteed no hormone or nasties Tasmanian Lamb!! As soon as we get us a freezer big enough to held a lamb or two, we will order some. :)
Being an ex Tasmanian I gotta say - that's good reason to be excited ;D Those Tassie lambs are almost as good as NZ ones ;) Good choice ;D as I hear the Tassie Devils are a little tough :D
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:10pm; Reply: 526
supps today (Tuesday):

Morning:
Joint/Mobility pack (ready, set ...) I will have a week on this to help me get a safe start to my new exercise routine.

Calm Focus pack, Cortiguard: (excitement, excitement ...). Will keep these going too, to make sure that sensitive cortisol hormone trying to dominate us A, does not sabotage my new regime.

Histonia (juices freely flowing ...) -  to make sure my muscles get oxygenated as they  build up

Clearcal (help bone strenght) - maintain healthy calcium intake for bones and general wellbeing

Will add Polyflora, Deflect and B12 to the evening meal, to reinforce the goodies inside, scrub the toxins and balance activity/rest/sleep cycles ...

I will probably cook salmon for dinner tonight.  I have a big one in the fridge and it should be enough to feed the household ... that accompanied by the creamy rissotto dish I cooked last night (will cook it again today, the kids will love it!).  :) :)

A question on menospause ...
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, July 19, 2010, 11:43pm; Reply: 527
I do not have any menopause signs, never had, except for being overweight.  I have seen a lot of talking here about this cycle of our lives, in both men and woman that is making me think deeper.  

If after a month or so of starting this exercise routine, I do not notice my weight shifting downwards, I may start looking at supplementing my lifestyle with either fem balance, aromastat (will fix the spelling later), or some other appropriate for your type nap goodies ...

it may not even come to that, because I think the genotype packs are aimed at helping us manage these stubborn issues... Ok then, I will follow my supp regime (as previous post) for a week, then I will do one week of the genotype supps and if my joints and muscles continue to adapt well to the exercise regime, then this is all I use, the GT supps. Otherwise I will keep alternating them with the regime indicated in previous post.  I am on a mission!!   ;D
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 1:09am; Reply: 528
Quoted Text
I do not have any menospause signs


me neither!!!!
actually, never heard of those in my time....... ;D
think no one has had any.....( :K))
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, July 20, 2010, 2:47am; Reply: 529
Funny Lola, I think i fixed it now!!!  ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 9:00am; Reply: 530
Morning/lunch
Occubright, Teachers 3 pack, Polyflora, Deflect

Dinner
Calm focus pack, cortiguard Histonia Nap B12

Sick child in the house threw all schedules out the window and my new equipment still sits there untouched until a few minutes ago when we had an accident ... :o

Shhh!!!(like in keep it quite, do not speak too loud!!)  :X DD was testing the incline on it, and took it all to the top.  At the same time this awful screeching noise came off the back of the treadmill and to our dismay, it was drilling its way into our wall!!!  newly painted one too!!  Hopefully will be a few days before DH discovers the dent on the wall!!  The installer should have warned us about putting it too near the wall!!!  So, if you are thinking of buying one!! beware where you place it.  PS: Actually, the installers should have known better!! I selected the spot, but they should have realized that it would have hit the wall on the incline!! ... Oh, well, it should be easy enough to fix later on ...

You are probably wondering how does she get into that treadmill if it is so near the wall, well, it is in one of those big bay window areas with half of the treadmill in the concave the window makes, and the other half in the open area with plenty of room to get onto it ...

We did go for a neighbourhood walk this morning, so I am glad I fitted that in.  It is just that DD asked me to wait before I use the gym, she wants to make this program for me ... But, DD ready or not, I am getting onto it from tomorrow and do my own thing!!!  I had been aching all day to jump on it!!!

I had been busy on the internet researching about sick DGD, but still managed to place a few posts in some of the threads here I fell compelled to say something about.

Still, great true to type day today ... got to be able to live life best we can ...  :)
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, July 21, 2010, 6:32pm; Reply: 531
:)
Posted by: Symbi, Sunday, July 25, 2010, 11:04am; Reply: 532
Happy Birthday Cristina, I know it's your birthday around now.  Hope you have / had a lovely day with loved ones.  

Hope you got a chance to get onto the gym equipment but didn't overdo it.  The only time I went to the gym caused me much aches and pains as I HAD to try everything to exhaustion using muscles in the back and shoulders hardly ever used.   :P

My birthday was good but a few funny things happened around it like bread for lunch over rose.  It was yummy with turkey soup for all, no matter the sunken shape!

Hope DGD is better now?  My DD hit the side of a bookshelf at school and had to come home early had her first x-rays to see if the nose was broken, luckily not and no concussion, she's ok.  Also this week gave herself a 'haircut'.  You never know what's next with little ones.  It's been quite a week!  

Has DH noticed the hole in the wall or did you get DGD (dear gorgeous dog) to lay there  :)
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, July 25, 2010, 4:59pm; Reply: 533
happy belated BD!!! ;) :K)
Posted by: Cristina, Sunday, July 25, 2010, 7:16pm; Reply: 534
Happy belated birthday Symbi!!!  I wonder where  were you these last few days!!!

Gosh!! Glad your little one is OK after such an experience!!! Do we have a fashion hair designer on the making there?  Mummy be careful not to fall asleep anywhere near her with scissors, you may end up with a new hairdoo yourself!!!

DH has not noticed the dent yet!!!  DGD has settled OK I think, we have not heard anything else since yesterday morning.  

I have been using the treadmill getting good workouts there!  I am waiting for a gym exercise book to get some guidance on the home gym equipment.  I am looking forward to using that as well!

My birthday is on the 20th of August!! So still a few days to go, but I welcome and thank you  for the ealy wishes!! ;) :)


Posted by: cajun, Monday, July 26, 2010, 12:06am; Reply: 535
Look out Cristina.....you will soon need to do more shopping...for clothes....after all that time on your treadmill! :D
Glad you are enjoying it! To your health!
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, July 26, 2010, 1:09am; Reply: 536
Thanks Cajun!!!  That is a side effect I do not mind having at all!!!  ;D ;D ;D  I am enjoying a cup of coffee at the moment, I will jump onto it again before lunch!!  Have not work out a routine yet, but I think by now my body is used to not having routines!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 4:13am; Reply: 537
Tuesday today,  grrrrr, doing the tax thing due tomorrow grrrrr, with all that it has been going on around me this month, I left it for the last minute and I hate that!!!

I did not have the Calm focus Pack and attentia today, i think I would hit that sometime soon to keep me focus and sharp, yet calm a bit longer ...!!!!

My sups today have been instead:

Ocubright, Teacher 3 pack, Polyflora, Deflect, the Genotype Multivitamin, Clearcal  :)

Now, it has been raining on and off all day, and I have not been able to exercise and I hate that even more!!! So, forget deadlines!!!  I am jumping onto that treadmill right now and do at least 15minutes on it!!!   Will tick it in the A Fitness thread within the next 30 minutes!!   ;D
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 5:06am; Reply: 538
done!!
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 5:10am; Reply: 539
:)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 5:28am; Reply: 540
Thanks smiley Lola!! and I have also order Intrinsa, Gastro-D complex, Protein powder and Gina is also sending a couple of other things ...  got to be prepared for these gastro attacks ...

I think that my resolution to jump on the treadmil before was supported by my action on taking the supps earlier on ... the bad genes were trying to hold me down, the arsenal I fed to the good ones got me up!!!  Nice to picture things that way ...  Back to the books ... out of here for a few hours now, will report later on tonight once finished!!!  :)

PS: I am having the Calm Focus Plus with Attentia and Tranquility Base and the B12 with dinner ...

DGD is here now and she has lost so much weight and became very fidgeting with her food.  I baked her beautiful fermented Spelt muffins with 4 eggs and a bit of honey and she has been eating that with ghee and honey!!  All organic, free range, unadulterated ... :)
Posted by: Possum, Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 5:32am; Reply: 541
Goodluck with the return!!! :) & well done on the exercise!! :)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 7:42am; Reply: 542
Good luck with the tax mischief Cristina - I hate doing tax returns too  >:(

Well done on maintaining the fitness regime despite the rain (woot)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, July 27, 2010, 10:44pm; Reply: 543
OK, thanks Poss and Andy for the good wishes!! They worked, I completed the BAS by midnight!!  Will be posting today when PO opens at 9:00am.  Feel like a big weight taken of shoulders!!  That was just the BAS, then within the next few weeks we have to also prepare the main tax returns ... I tell you, they make you an accountant whether you want or not here ...  ;)  I had the Tranquility Base, Attentia and B12 to see me through this task and after a warm Camomile and honey tea managed to sleep soundly until 5;30am.   :)

Anyhow, a bit of tension around the place with all these sicknesses around, nerves are a bit on edge ...,  I am trying to keep it together ... I am hitting the Calm Focus Pack (CFP) right now!! adding Histonia and Cortiguard ...

BTW, a white cheese and bacon bread is a good follow up meal to a few days vomiting for a 4yr old child!!  ::) ??) CFP, double dose for me please!!!  :X
Posted by: cajun, Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 12:34am; Reply: 544
Chamomile tea and Cortiguard are 2 of my staples, too!
Posted by: Symbi, Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 1:33am; Reply: 545
Sorry I got mixed up and thought, on that other thread (oh what a tangled web we weave), that your birthday was 20 July, but then you said you're a Leo which didn't fit.  No wonder it didn't fit!  August hey!
Never too early to start celebrating and hopefully the tax money will be back by then to help out!

Oh yes G and the scissors, she is quite creative and is drawing some lovely pictures of us now.  She drew an hilarious picture of Dad (face even looked like him!) except he was wearing pink yesterday.  Not quite right that! (though there would be nothing wrong with that!)  ;):)

Keep that chamomile tea and calming regime up.  It's rare that extended family can live together so peacefully.  Take heart, IMHO with most little ones they have such good intrinsic health that they don't need to watch what they eat as much as us with health problems except where there are allergies and intolerances.  Just my opinion tho!
Posted by: Munchkin76, Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 7:06am; Reply: 546
Well done on the return Cristina, now you can do a happy dance to celebrate (dance).  I hope DGD and other family members are all feeling tip-top again soon!
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:14am; Reply: 547
Yes, Andy, they will, they have that young thing on their favor ... and occasional compliance ...

Not much dancing today, watched TV and did some gym work after DD find a few minutes to get me started... I should tick that in the fitness thread ...  ;)

PS: I should record here that just before that gym workout I did have my Joint health pack supps (just in case) ...

Are you saying hubby is hilarious?  sounds like a lot of fun there with DD ...  what do you think of the rain?  It was porung here before!!!  Nice sleepy weather ... :)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:38am; Reply: 548
I am quite pleased with the exercise regime I am slowly building up:

Treadmill at least 4 times a week
home gym at least twice a week
Thursday evenings Canine School moving to Saturday mornings soon
Friday mornings Pilates (will start this week!!!!)

All these activities balance perfectly with my Swami:

Under less demanding I have Pilates and light upper and lower body work (both covered in the plan listed here)

Under more demanding I have vigorous walking (treadmill) and moderate resistance training (what would that be? my weights?)

I am also resurrecting an old AeroXpress step type device ... Variation ... Exciting ... :)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:49am; Reply: 549
Sounds like you've got the exercise regime (under Swami) well and truly sussed - you're very inspiring (clap)

I need to get me some more of what you've got there Cristina!  I do lots of walking and sometimes a bit of running (although I don't like it much), will be introducing yoga a few times a week.  Need to get more more of that vigorous (Hunter) stuff going on.  Perhaps I'll start going back to Aikido again (think)
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:53am; Reply: 550
Go Andy, Go Andy, Go Andy .... start the O' Fitness log thread too ...  helps with motivation and inspiration ...  ;) :)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Wednesday, July 28, 2010, 11:59am; Reply: 551
Thanks for the support Cristina, I might just take you up on the 'O' fitness thread!!
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 29, 2010, 1:33pm; Reply: 552
It will soon be a year on this and although my clinicals have shown tremendous progress, on both Warrior and Teacher GTs, the shifting of my weight is still stuck or moving very slowly.  

I have been doing a bit of soul searching too, trying to think back in my history, where I came from healthwise, how did I look when and compare to what I am doing now ...

I had mentioned a few times before in different threads, maybe even here, that I was very slim and fit when younger, doing all sort of different sports and then those excercise hours were substituted by work hours and with less and less time to exercise the kgs built on and on.  ... and the yo=yo dieting syndrome started, playing the catching up game and never quite getting there, doing more and more damage ...

I came to this way of life with low iron anemic labs and high liver enzymes.  I fixed that with both the Teacher and warrior diet and nap supps including B12s ... in a very short time ...

Up until today I had not marked that in my Swami, I used the excuse that my labs came right, therefore I should not tick it ... but now I am wondering if that was just that, an excuse ... and excuse to stay as near as possible to vegetarian diet as I could ...

Remember? I was vegan when I came here, but that was making me very sick ... I have glympses, when I first run Swami marking those history details, it game me Explorer with a lot more meat than Teacher and Warrior ... I did not enjoyed that feeling then ... and started playing with personalities and taking things that were cured, but if I  do that, then I should also take my digestive problems of the past away ...

So, I am relaxed, evolved higher in the levels of acceptance and run Swami indicating my anemic and liver history, using my INFP or ENFP or INFJ personality results depending on the tests taken, indicating visible or not visible tendons and it presented me with a GT4 lifestyle.

Meat 3 x per week (Lamb, Mutton, marrow broth)
Poultry 2 x per week (Turkey and a few other flying type in SF with chicken neutral)
Eggs 6 x per week with the surprise that only the egg yolk from my chooks are SF (plus goose eggs and quail eggs) and my chicken whole eggs and egg whites are now neutral ...
Vege proteins had been reduced to only 5 x per week (from at least 10x before ) ...

Many other changes in Live foods, fruits, carbohydrates (I get to keep my beautiful spelt) dairy and drinks (coffee downgraded to neutral!!!) ...

All these food changes are fine, to be expected, they are food I mostly grew up with, including the meat and I was never fat as a child or young woman ...

The main change in lifestyle comes with the exercise requirements: The need for Explorers to sweat it out!!! With the Warrior and Teacher types I hardly sweat, in a way forcing myself to take it easy because that is what is recommended ... but, is it right for me? Now I wonder if that is the missing link in this journey and why the weight is not moving? although I had been very compliant!!!...

So, I am ready to give it a try ... I am changing my regime. It is an overnight  diet change, but I am easying into more vigorous options with the exercising regime ...

No buts, no doubts, it is not open for discussion, it is just happening ... I am giving GT4 a two or three  months trial, depending how I feel ... if the weight has not moved by then ... then  at least I will be able to compare the time spend on the 3 possible GTs I can be and decide which one to keep based on which was the one I felt better with!!!  Win, win situation ...

Off to change my Avatar ... and to sleep off the excitement I am feeling about this, can't wait to see hubby's face in the morning when I tell him my Teacher evolved into a Explorer and as such the pantry and fridge are having a makeover ...  ;D ;D
Posted by: ABJoe, Thursday, July 29, 2010, 2:58pm; Reply: 553
It sounds like part of the learning process...  Good for you to evaluate and reassess as necessary.  I'm sure that you will know more in several months.  Keep notes.
Posted by: cajun, Thursday, July 29, 2010, 4:26pm; Reply: 554
So interested to see what happens to you!
When I strength test in the GTD book, I am just about inbetween Teacher and Explorer!
Good luck, kiddo! :)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Thursday, July 29, 2010, 5:16pm; Reply: 555
Cristina well done you!!!  I think it's important to tweek Swami - especially if you're not sure.  I reckon this latest development could truly be the missing link for you - I'm so excited and can't wait to hear how you get on (woot)

Just yesterday I adjusted my Swami to include history of digestive problems.  I had heartburn/indigestion/bloating/wind almost constantly before BTD/GTD/Swami and I don't know why I didn't tke the box to start with  ??).  Anyway, now I have a lot more cheeses back to neutral and a few have moved up to Super or Diamond (including my beloved parmesan which was a black dot before) in addition to quite a few changes to meats (more diamonds/supers) more poultry (supers/diamonds) and fish (supers/diamonds).  Instinctively, these changes feel so much more 'right' to me.

Cristina - here's to the journey my friend  :K)
Posted by: Cristina, Thursday, July 29, 2010, 10:11pm; Reply: 556
Thanks AB, Cajun and Andy!!
I am double excited today because I have just ordered over the phone the US National Geographic DNA test kit for my brother in Texas to do.  I have completed here in Australia the mother side of things, but I need him to do the father side of things which I cannot do.  It will take two or three weeks  for him to get it, do the test, send it back and then a few more days / weeks to wait for the results to be available on the net!!  

Also, I am doing my first Pilates class this morning at the studio near home, I have not done that for a few months!!!  will report on the fitness thread when I get back :)
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, July 30, 2010, 1:22am; Reply: 557
I loved that Pilates class and I can see myself keeping this up too!!!  I just want to point out that although I have been away for a few months (from pilates) I was pleasantly surprised that my body was able to hold the positions and last the session so well!!!  Obviously, the joint health pack supps from NAP and all the walking and activities I have been doing at home may have moved the fluids enough for the muscles and joints to feel relax and supple enough ... So great to be doing this true to type lifestyle!!!  :)
Posted by: Symbi, Friday, July 30, 2010, 3:09am; Reply: 558
Quoted from Cristina
I have completed here in Australia the mother side of things, but I need him to do the father side of things which I cannot do.


So there is something you cannot do, you very capable person!   :) I'm happy for you.  Welcome to Explorerhood!  I hope it fits you, or at least you find which one is best soon.  You should know pretty quickly.  It will be easier to cook I'm sure with all those meats instead of the tricky veggie proteins.  

I've thought I was the other two genotypes too, so it doesn't surprise me.  I wonder what Dr D would type us as?  You're spurring me on about exercise but I have to take it easy because fatigue kicks in at the moment.  

About G - she's back at school PHEW! and nose swelling is better and she's going to ENT next week.  DH NEVER wears pink and eschews girly colours so a pink robe was a good look!  :)  The rain was great for the garden, the bugs and the birds are having a field day.  Fog this morning, what next?
Posted by: Cristina, Friday, July 30, 2010, 3:22am; Reply: 559
Yes, I know!! the fog hit Cullum Beach last night and it tried to get here, but I think it was a little bit too windy and got blew away pretty quick.  Very early this morning was around though, they talked about it at the Pilates class too!!

Poor little darling!! I hope everyone at school is very mindful of her!! She is probably enjoying the attention too!  a little bright side to the episode!!  

Nice to share the GT with you Symbi!  Interesting times ahead!  ;D  Trying to learn the new lists ... identifying new benes and diamonds is the cue, the rest is fairly common for all As ...  I ordered the GT4 pack, good timing because my teacher ones are nearly finish ...  ;)
Posted by: Munchkin76, Friday, July 30, 2010, 6:28am; Reply: 560
Well done on the exercise regime Cristina (clap)  Those last few pounds are going to just fly off I bet!  Happy Exploring too!  And on the Explorer discovery I forgot to say - meat is great!!  But then, I'm a Hunter and me like meat  :P

Symbi, glad DD is better and back at school and I hope all is great at the ENT appointment as well.

Right, I've done 50 tummy crunches so far - time to hit the aerobics now.......
Posted by: Cristina, Saturday, July 31, 2010, 8:14am; Reply: 561
... and time to escape to my other thread ... at least for a while ... to keep this 'explorer' journey in its own thread ...

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1280560402/   :) :) :)
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