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Posted by: drholyangel, Monday, August 17, 2009, 4:48pm
Please take a look at this article from the Guardian (U.K.)

Evidently, there's a movement to classify those who are "obsessed with healthy eating" under the rubric of Orthorexia Nervosa. (You know, like people who want to eat organic food and avoid the other stuff.)

Here's the link:  http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/16/orthorexia-mental-health-eating-disorder

Now, I've been a psychologist for over 30 years and have seen my fair share of eating disorders, and I don't think that eating right is a psychological disorder. The thing that's really upsetting is that the Blood Type diet and Naturopathic interventions are specifically mentioned at the end of the article as evidence of this disorder.

I guess the GMO, food additive, over-processed eating industry is feeling a little heat; so they needed to plaster their own brand of craziness into the media.

Give the article a read and see what you think. It's getting ever weirder out there.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, August 17, 2009, 5:04pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from drholyangel
Please take a look at this article from the Guardian (U.K.)

Evidently, there's a movement to classify those who are "obsessed with healthy eating" under the rubric of Orthorexia Nervosa. (You know, like people who want to eat organic food and avoid the other stuff.)

Here's the link:  http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2009/aug/16/orthorexia-mental-health-eating-disorder

Now, I've been a psychologist for over 30 years and have seen my fair share of eating disorders, and I don't think that eating right is a psychological disorder. The thing that's really upsetting is that the Blood Type diet and Naturopathic interventions are specifically mentioned at the end of the article as evidence of this disorder.

I guess the GMO, food additive, over-processed eating industry is feeling a little heat; so they needed to plaster their own brand of craziness into the media.

Give the article a read and see what you think. It's getting ever weirder out there.

Haven't read your linked article yet, as I have to go "scan" (don't ask) right now, but I've heard of this "orthorexia nervosa" before and it is totally INFURIATING.  Yes, there are some people in the world who are way too rigid about any given diet they follow, but that doesn't mean that everyone who follows any given diet with a high degree of compliance has a pathology, a disease.  Some of us just choose to choose healthy foods in a society that has unhealthy choices as the vastly more prevalent reality, therefore, one has to seem very "out there" to choose healthily most of the time and to find healthy choices.  It means asking a lot of questions in restaurants, reading labels in stores, questioning things.  None of that makes us "sick", it makes us informed and respectful of our bodies and our health!  Like I said, there are those who follow whatever diet rules they adhere to in a way that is kinda OCD/rigid, BUT that doesn't mean that everyone who follows a diet strictly is doing so out of a pathology.  On the contrary, some of us do it to be healthy!  Choosing healthy foods in a society full of unhealthy choices will, by definition, seem weird and eccentric.  But I don't think those of us eating the organic buffalo burger wrapped in a romaine leaf are the sick ones.  I think the business entities that push those other consumers around us to eat Twinkies and Ho Ho's and Count Chocula are the ones that need their heads, or more accurately their ethics, examined.

Posted by: NewHampshireGirl, Monday, August 17, 2009, 5:05pm; Reply: 2
I have met some vegans like this.  
Sounds as if there are whole groups of people who are obsessive-compulsive in the category noted in this article.  Most of us who follow the BTD probably are very quiet about it.  I know my husband and I are living a full life following BTD and we haven't been treated for a disorder, yet.  ;D
Posted by: Brighid45, Monday, August 17, 2009, 5:18pm; Reply: 3
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Orthorexics commonly have rigid rules around eating. Refusing to touch sugar, salt, caffeine, alcohol, wheat, gluten, yeast, soya, corn and dairy foods is just the start of their diet restrictions. Any foods that have come into contact with pesticides, herbicides or contain artificial additives are also out.

The obsession about which foods are "good" and which are "bad" means orthorexics can end up malnourished. Their dietary restrictions commonly cause sufferers to feel proud of their "virtuous" behaviour even if it means that eating becomes so stressful their personal relationships can come under pressure and they become socially isolated.


Isn't it interesting how not wanting to eat highly processed foods contaminated with chemicals and additives is somehow turned into crazy behavior? Wow, we're all social deviants because we don't want to eat Ding-Dongs and Doritos!

I agree with NHG that there are people out there who might fall into this category, but this article lumping us in with them is rather extreme. I guess all's fair in love and (propaganda) wars!  ::)  

Thanks for posting this, drholyangel. It's always good to know what the opposition is up to. ;)
Posted by: Mercedes, Monday, August 17, 2009, 5:53pm; Reply: 4
I think there's a difference between avoiding those kinds of processed foods and the mentality of a person with Orthorexia.

BTD followers for one, believe a food to be bad for us as individuals generally, but because of chemistry, not because the food has "fat" or "too many calories." And while some of us are neurotic about some avoids, do any other O's really *FREAK OUT* if there's a cucumber in something we eat? I dislike cucumbers, but I'm not going to fret if I accidentally eat one.

The very fact that Dr. D considers compliance 80-90% (if I remember correctly) should mean that we aren't obsessive. Moreoever, I don't think we eat the way we do to exert control- which is a classic part of eating disorders. We eat the way we do because we feel better doing so. Orthorexics probably wouldn't know if they react to anything- they'll just label something bad, and then obsess about avoiding it.

The last paragraph is just absurd- they should have included things like eat to live or veganism instead of body-chemistry related diets. But I absolutely know people who are likely Orthorexic. I know a 16 year old girl who didn't eat for 12 hours at a fair because she said all the food offered was bad- sure french fries aren't good, but running around in the sun all day with no food isn't good either.
Posted by: Dr. D, Monday, August 17, 2009, 6:50pm; Reply: 5
I'm sure that upon reading the article, many more people will discover the benefits of orthorexia and the BTD.
Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:08pm; Reply: 6
creative and inventing minds are such a ... :X fine thing to get people
into the trap of dependancies...fear...fear..fear...etc...baa.. :X :(

I am this..I have that.... (funny)(funny)(funny)(goofy)(think)(dizzy)(whistle)(constipated)....eat and live right 4 your type and all becomes ok...(wiseman)(clap)(ok)(dance)(sunny)...it is thaaat simple...


ooops...forgot to mention, ther's one point  ;) :D..no 1 in the enneagram seem to be prone for such issues, the super propper clean often related to foods and nutritionals and meds....ENTP/J's... but as we are both, so no.5 is in that boat as well....and all of our neighbours ;).... but if you are aware about such patterns... no problem ;) ;D we can handle them.... easily....(dance)(ok)(clap)(goofy)(hehe)(whistle)......
Posted by: Gale D., Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:13pm; Reply: 7
Eventually those fat- sugar- chemical-eating people will die out, and the progeny of those who eat healthy will take over the world...

Our evil plan has been exposed... muuuhhhhahahaha! ;D
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, August 17, 2009, 7:15pm; Reply: 8
P.S.  Okay, I have now read the linked article.

:(

>:(

!!!

All I can say in addition to what I already said, pre-reading-it, is the following:  it is a rhymes-with-spam good thing that the article doesn't allow COMMENTS!

(&*&#&#*!~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :lk$&*&#!  (dead) I MEAN, *(&$#*&#???? (dizzy)(goofy)!! (oh) wuh? (scared)(what)(smartyp)(hand)
Posted by: PixieO, Monday, August 17, 2009, 8:30pm; Reply: 9
I work at a place that sells raw food, and I can definitely say that I have seen this particular phenomenon in a couple of people - you can usually tell by the PANIC that ensues when we are out of something they planned on eating - but I wouldn't say everyone who eats raw must have a disorder, thats ridiculous. Same for the blood type diet. I am sure there are SOME who hide an eating disorder behind it, but that is probably a very small percentage, not the majority. Its like saying everyone who watches calories must be anorexic.

The worst thing about this, is that orthorexia Nervosa actually is a disease that people should be aware of, but making these sweeping statements does nothing to help those that have it, and just pisses of the rest of us. Very counterproductive.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:22pm; Reply: 10
I actually love it!

Look at it this way, you can tell your therapist that you're following the BTD and if
you talk about it enough, you can have a clearly defined disease and suddenly
there is a PDR "code" for your condition...Your insurance will be able to cover you to talk about the BTD or the GTD in therapy.

It's a really good deal if you ask me  LOL!
Posted by: Debra+, Monday, August 17, 2009, 9:35pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Dr. D
I'm sure that upon reading the article, many more people will discover the benefits of orthorexia and the BTD.



oh...yes...turn it around to make a positive.   (clap)(clap)(dance)(dance)(woot)(woot)    ;) :D

Debra :)
Posted by: drholyangel, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 12:10am; Reply: 12
Good comments, everyone. I believe that those who could be diagnosed with orthorexia actually have an underlying condition such as obsessive-compulsive disorder, or a compulsive personality disorder. There is no need to clutter up the diagnostic nomenclature with this condition, especially if it is an attempt to marginalize those of us who eat sensibly, but choose to eschew (ha, ha!) certain foods.

If it's any consolation, remember that this is the same gang that considered homosexuality a disease and tried to "cure" it for decades (without success, of course). Kind of makes me proud to be a shrink . . . . . . not.    ::) ::) :( ;D ;D
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:12am; Reply: 13
;D
great seeing you again!

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many more people will discover the benefits of orthorexia and the BTD.


ortho will sound more appealing to those ignorant of lifestyle change and wellness.
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 9:24am; Reply: 14
;D ;D(smarty)(goofy)(evil)(woot)(dance) ;D ;D ;D :D :D............

Orthomed-NutriGenomics Albrecht  is my firms' name (funny)(funny)(wiseman)(whistle)
Posted by: Jumari, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 9:54am; Reply: 15
Here is another crazy thing going on in my part of the world.

It was my spiritual meditation teacher that recommended the BTD to me.

When I finally decided to buy the GT diet book. I went to our Australian Borders and they didn't have it. I had to go to the local Spiritual shop to buy it. There I found it next to books on Epigenetics, like the Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton and Alternative medicine.

Aren't Genetics and Epigentics considered to be matter of fact, accredited sciences by the medical profession?
Posted by: Jumari, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 10:15am; Reply: 16
Here is an interesting video on Orthorexia Nervosa

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5je5QcEH8M

I think they or shall I say we are also referred to as Health food junkies.
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 12:17pm; Reply: 17
A therapist might  say it is all about controlling your world. Because you were out of control as a child (unable to make choices for yourself or you are a last child and everyone made decisions for you), so you need to be in control of something and food is easy to be in control of.
:) :)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 12:29pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from drholyangel
Good comments, everyone. I believe that those who could be diagnosed with orthorexia actually have an underlying condition such as obsessive-compulsive disorder, or a compulsive personality disorder. There is no need to clutter up the diagnostic nomenclature with this condition...

Exactly.  It's cluttered up with enough shullbit as it is.  We don't need another made-up disease that one person unilaterally came up with (tangent:  just like us tail-end-of-the-Boom Baby Boomers don't need to be summarily tossed into a different supposed "generation" that was really just made up by one person--stay away from me, I'm a Baby Boomer...there's no such thing as "Generation Jones"  ::)).  As you said, what he's really talking about are other diseases that are already in the aforementioned nomenclature.  This guy just makes up this disease and it is taken as gospel that it exists?  Nope.  Not buying it.
Quoted from drholyangel
...especially if it is an attempt to marginalize those of us who eat sensibly, but choose to eschew (ha, ha!) certain foods.

Yeah, mind your own biz, Bratman.  I eat what I choose to eat and don't eat what I don't choose to eat.  That is called following a certain diet.  It is not a pathology, especially since said diet is as healthy as it gets.  It is called being smart about diet.  Not as catchy of a title as "orthorexia", but it has a good beat and you can dance to it.  I give it a ten!
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 12:40pm; Reply: 19
:o(eek)(oh)(eek)(dead)(mad)(think)(dizzy)(disappointed)this film relates to no anorexia nevrosa but is  merely all about  bulimie !!!
Often bulimie is first and anorexia will follow..... :P :X ::)......but
both maladies haven't anything to do with so called *healthfood junkies *


hhhhaaa...about healthfood junkies....do you know that Teutonia has got a biiig problem right now that all its veggies and most of the fruits are contaminated with too much of cadmium??) but also the so called bio or organic stuffs are ... :-/ :o :P >:(... Those who wanted to eat healthy, the vegans and vegetarians are all +++ concerned about those issues... it came yesterday up in the Teutonic TV... :-/ every one is shocked, and justamente go for it as usual... :P(dizzy)(dizzy)(think)(goofy)(whistle)....
this I name really crazy.... but one thing is good in that story...they asked people to switch to spelt and rye....not eating any wheat in the next few months!......(clap)(hehe)(grin)nice to live in Switzerland.....(clown)
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 1:21pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from Jumari
I think they or shall I say we are also referred to as Health food junkies.

Isn't calling us "health food junkies" a contradiction in terms?  Shouldn't we instead be called "health food quality-ies"?

Quote:

"There is no such thing as junk food.  There is junk, and there is food, but there is no junk food."*

Hence, one cannot be a health food "junkie".  One can only be a health food "foodie".  PT has decreed it.  So it is written.  So it shall be. *Thuderclap!*

* That quote is by a doctor on a PBS special...can't think of his name or the name of the special, and can't seem to find it on a PBS program listing...sorry...



Posted by: SquarePeg, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 5:22pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from Chloe
I actually love it!

Look at it this way, you can tell your therapist that you're following the BTD and if you talk about it enough, you can have a clearly defined disease and suddenly there is a PDR "code" for your condition...Your insurance will be able to cover you to talk about the BTD or the GTD in therapy.

It's a really good deal if you ask me  LOL!
Clever!  I'd rather have the insurance company recognize the health benefits of the BTD and pay me a stipend for the extra expense of buying quality food.

Posted by: SquarePeg, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 5:28pm; Reply: 22
I don't have a problem with it.  Here's the key, which is the same criteria applied to differentiate between healthy exercise and obsessive exercise, working hard and workaholism, washing your hands after using a tissue, the bathroom, and before eating vs. obsessive handwashing:
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The obsession about which foods are "good" and which are "bad" means orthorexics can end up malnourished. Their dietary restrictions commonly cause sufferers to feel proud of their "virtuous" behaviour even if it means that eating becomes so stressful their personal relationships can come under pressure and they become socially isolated.
Posted by: drholyangel, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 5:32pm; Reply: 23
While the whole "food and control" issue has merit, I find it particularly ironic that some of the most controlling people are those who seek to give something a name in an attempt to control by appearing to be experts.

This has been a human quality since forever, though. Look at all the beliefs claiming that if you know the true name of something, you can control it, and bend it to your will.

Methinks "they" are trying to bend everyone to their will by trying to stigmatize groups for their weird habits, like wanting to eat what's best for them. What kind of loonie would want to do something like not eat the garbage that is processed food?? Gotta be something wrong with those "food obsessed" types, what?
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 6:40pm; Reply: 24
Actually, thinking about this further...

Controlling what we eat isn't as easy as it once was, when food was purer and
chemicals weren't routinely dumped everywhere on our food sources...and our
lakes and rivers weren't polluted...and people weren't so ill...and trying to hard
to figure out the reason why they're so ill and what it would take to make everyone
well again.  So, the more we know about agri food business and the more we learn
about disease, all the more reason to avoid the very things connected to becoming
a disease model.

We have free will or least we'd like to think we have it...but it's easy to lose that free will once we give up and turn ourselves over to the medical establishment, people with possibly the best of intentions, but limited to what they've learned in school and rarely looking outside of the box for better ways to prevent and treat disease....so what are our options?  We need to figure out how to save ourselves
which is where all these self help diet books came from......

What can modern medicine offer us in the way of teaching any of us anything about healthy eating? Is the FDA attempting to regulate genetically modified foods?  

Look how clever the medical establishment has become...and look how much
money can be made from medical procedures, many of which probably wouldn't
have been necessary if people paid more  careful attention
to eating a healthier diet and living a more rigid lifestyle that includes avoidance
of chemicals and pollutants and getting more exercise... So who is threatened when we pick and choose what we eat?  Do we need a diagnosis of  mental dysfunction to save ourselves from, what?  Ourselves?  No, the medical establishment is threatened that we might be able to find less use for their services...and this is
money they don't make from us.

The medical model is invested in drugs and surgery... Yes, you can
get a gastric bypass surgical procedure just for eating the very foods us
healthier minded individuals are avoiding ...and yes, drug companies are frantically looking to find the perfect diet pill....but if you choose to control your own life by eating foods of your own choice, even if it comes from a food list prescribed by a program you choose to follow, why is this method of self control coming out to a diagnosis that implies you're pathological?  Because it's their label and then you're
back in their system...with their diagnosis and their treatment.  It's all about them
trying to control us.

Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 9:44pm; Reply: 25
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Aren't Genetics and Epigentics considered to be matter of fact, accredited sciences by the medical profession?


Not really, these are pure sciences that are extensively peer reviewed by like minded scientists.

The medical profession is just a mere user of the services. Just as MRI and CT scanners are a spin off result of space age technology.

Any genetic technologies that can be used as therapy for a disease can be licensed to the medical profession for a royalty.
Posted by: Jumari, Tuesday, August 18, 2009, 11:25pm; Reply: 26
Greetings my fellow Health Food Junkies,

Here is an article on Health Food Junkies

according to the article:

Obsession with dietary perfection can sometimes do more harm than good, says one who has been there.

http://www.beyondveg.com/bratman-s/hfj/hf-junkie-1a.shtml

When it comes to the Orthorexia nervosa video. There are no images of anyone sticking a finger down the throat. The insinuation is even worse. Being obsessed with eating health food and excercising too much will make you vomit. I love how they depict a bowl full of vegetables as being somekind of evil meal. Its the extreme guilt that comes from eating the wrong unhealthy foods that makes you chunder.

The term Orthorexia Nerosa would be mostly used for very skinny obsessive health nuts (including exercise). So if you look fit or are overweight you are just a Health food junkie like me, congratulations.
Posted by: LauraT, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 12:56am; Reply: 27
Wow, interesting thread.

People are threatened by anything that they are afraid to do themselves.  As far as I'm concerned, the only problem with rigid eating is social ostracism... which is what articles like this perpetuate.

People are too readily diagnosed with OCD.  As a teenager, I was.  But as I got older, my concerns with time, money, and health looked like normal, responsible, adult behavior, so it was no longer considered pathological.  All of this is about how to define and draw boundaries around "normal" behavior.  I often tell people that in pre-civilized societies, people like me were the ones who made sure the food was carefully inspected, preserved, and stored, and thus protected the entire village from starvation or food poisoning.  At least a few "OCD" individuals are needed in any group to keep everything functioning properly.  

Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 5:11am; Reply: 28
the worst thing in here is, to get *diagnozed*   in whatsoever often leads to a certain fixation where it is very heavy to leave..... :-/
so far I think it is better to see it as a  psychological disturbance with all possibilities open for growth ;) :D and to overcome this situation....(ok)(smile)


how often so called *diagnozes* are wrongly made statements coz of a lack of information (dizzy)(whistle)......
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 12:27pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from LauraT
Wow, interesting thread.

People are threatened by anything that they are afraid to do themselves.  As far as I'm concerned, the only problem with rigid eating is social ostracism... which is what articles like this perpetuate.

People are too readily diagnosed with OCD.  As a teenager, I was.  But as I got older, my concerns with time, money, and health looked like normal, responsible, adult behavior, so it was no longer considered pathological.  All of this is about how to define and draw boundaries around "normal" behavior.  I often tell people that in pre-civilized societies, people like me were the ones who made sure the food was carefully inspected, preserved, and stored, and thus protected the entire village from starvation or food poisoning.  At least a few "OCD" individuals are needed in any group to keep everything functioning properly.  



Our society has stigmatized extremes..If we don't focus well, we can be labeled having attention deficit disorder....If we over focus, it  can be called an obsessive compulsive disorder.  The word "disorder" is a term coined by people who are
looking to define behavior by saying something is wrong with the mind.

If you read the PDR of all the psyche disorders, I'm afraid most of us might be
labeled with at least one extreme that fits the terminology of pathology.

What is "normal" anyway?  LOL

Posted by: teri, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 3:36pm; Reply: 30
What about "ignorance" as a psych disease? Sounds like a deadly one. Needing immediate treatment! ;)
Posted by: Jane, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 4:43pm; Reply: 31
I guess it's all about where you fall on the bell shaped curve.  Anything on the "extremes" is by definition a disorder.
You can take anything to the extreme.  All I know is that eating the regular SAD made me sick and the BTD has made me a whole lot healthier.  I used to catch literally everything that came down the pike.  It was my little joke that if someone drove down the interstate that was 5 miles from my house with a cold that I'd get sick.  I was routinely ill fall and winter.  I caught every little virus....all until I started the BTD.  
Jane
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 4:54pm; Reply: 32
(clap)(ok)(clap)(scared)(woot)(evil)(dizzy)(mad)(grin)(eek)(naughty)
the very first thing here what should be investigated and  treated (coached) ;) is understandings...for  only *being*...nothing else...!!!


Chloe...you got it!!! yyyyeeeeehhhhaaaa this is the thing I tried to point out since some weeks....we have to take care not to get listed anywhere, why...once listed as being....bla..bla..bla.... you will carry this stigma for your rest of your life!!! people are that silly... :-/ :P :X.... what a dr. or Prof said *must* be true and correct.... ha-ha-haaa.... :o :o :P ;) ;D.....
and often it is easier to throw people into a sort of drawer, instead of understanding what has really happened....causa and circumstances....ahem here the virtue also is to be seen in Codex Alimentarius...how cruel mankind can be about moneyearning and the need of power .... :X >:( :'(
btw... do you see right now how often MD's might be victims of biig pharma??)... :X  ok very well payed victims.... this is another fact I tried to point out always I am mentioning the enneagram...why...coz here lays one of the keys also to understand instantly with whom you are dealing infront of you !!! and please don't shut your eyes but look...look....look !!! and don't think gentillesse will be guaranted... not at all... egomania turns the world go around.... at those times...(unhappy)(goofy)(eek)


will tell you a little story here...a guy in CH-landli...with a lot of money and land once got angry against the governement and allowed himself to go against in sorts of pamphlets..na ja not that nice but true and this man was an excellent writer of novels and more; btw Switzerland calls itself free and ok for everybody who wants to tell his/her own truth..or so called oppinion...oum...better not !!!  :(
This was in the years between 1960 and 86....so far so well...
he got la guerra totale...they put him into psychatric hospital, took off his money and lands in declaring he was illegally acting!!!
Hey...where are we.... that's why I've put the info about the *alpenparliament* on the teutonic thread.... get informed here about international issues...wow...amazing and frightening at the same time
:-/ yep this guy wasn't neither crazy nor whatsoever...only honest
and got hit by personal interests of government...mann...heavy... :-/

it is infact not only society which has given the stigmas but interested firms who manipulate folks for their own profit.......for
stigmatisations..... by psyche patterns....
(smartyp)(mad)(think)...that's why I ask you to pay attention to and with whom you identify..... 8) :K) :D ;D ;D
Posted by: newtypeA, Sunday, August 23, 2009, 6:09pm; Reply: 33
Oh goody, another psychological disorder. Wonder if they'll start making pills for this "condition".

Didn't they call us "health nuts" 30 years ago?
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, August 24, 2009, 12:52pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from newtypeA
Oh goody, another psychological disorder. Wonder if they'll start making pills for this "condition".

Ask your doctor about "Orthmellow".  The tiny green pill that will calm your irrational and obsessive desire to eat healthy, whole foods.  With Orthmellow, you'll soon be downing Twinkies and Ho Ho's with the rest of America.  You'll fit right in.  No more round peg in a square hole for you!  With Orthmellow, you'll be the life of the corn-syrup-downing party!

Tell your doctor if you notice any of the following rare side effects of Orthmellow.  These are rare but in studies have happened in upwards of 95% of people who take Orthmellow:  your head turns purple, you swell to twice your normal size, you develop a strange desire to put chipmunks in the wood chipper, you lose the ability to speak in your native language, you grow an extra limb, your hair falls out, and/or you die a slow, agonizing death.  If you notice any of these symptoms, alert your doctor at once, as your dosage may need to be slightly adjusted.

Posted by: Jane, Monday, August 24, 2009, 1:45pm; Reply: 35
LOL(clap)(dance)(sunny)(woot)(clap)
Posted by: newtypeA, Monday, August 24, 2009, 8:26pm; Reply: 36
Quoted from Peppermint Twist

Ask your doctor about "Orthmellow".  The tiny green pill that will calm your irrational and obsessive desire to eat healthy, whole foods.  With Orthmellow, you'll soon be downing Twinkies and Ho Ho's with the rest of America.  You'll fit right in.  No more round peg in a square hole for you!  With Orthmellow, you'll be the life of the corn-syrup-downing party!

Tell your doctor if you notice any of the following rare side effects of Orthmellow.  These are rare but in studies have happened in upwards of 95% of people who take Orthmellow:  your head turns purple, you swell to twice your normal size, you develop a strange desire to put chipmunks in the wood chipper, you lose the ability to speak in your native language, you grow an extra limb, your hair falls out, and/or you die a slow, agonizing death.  If you notice any of these symptoms, alert your doctor at once, as your dosage may need to be slightly adjusted.



(clap)(tongue) Good one.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 1:12pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from newtypeA
(clap)(tongue) Good one.

:D  Tank U!

Posted by: Jenny, Monday, August 31, 2009, 10:16pm; Reply: 38
Quoted from Jumari
Here is another crazy thing going on in my part of the world.

It was my spiritual meditation teacher that recommended the BTD to me.

When I finally decided to buy the GT diet book. I went to our Australian Borders and they didn't have it. I had to go to the local Spiritual shop to buy it. There I found it next to books on Epigenetics, like the Biology of Belief by Bruce Lipton and Alternative medicine.

Aren't Genetics and Epigentics considered to be matter of fact, accredited sciences by the medical profession?


I've bought GTD in Angus and Robertson twice in Canberra without having to order it.
Borders had many of the other Dadamo titles but were always out of GTD--maybe sold out?

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