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Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, August 14, 2009, 4:02pm
The thread:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1250265646/

Contains a list of food items that people would like included in SWAMI.

This thread is for discussion of the items in the list.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, August 14, 2009, 4:33pm; Reply: 1
What are elephant ear stems?

These are the stalks of: Colocasia esculenta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colocasia_esculenta


The stems are very spongy and I understand you are supposed to peel them before using. I sometimes wonder if this step is necessary. I use the stems in soups and stir fries.

The leaves (I occasionally have these curried.) and tubers are also edible. Tubers are listed in SWAMI under "Taro, Tahitian, Poi, Dansheen"

Note: My species identification was called into question in posts below.  
This is what I eat looks like this: http://vietherbs.com/herb-directory/elephant-ear/
This Web page claims it is  Alocasia  Odora
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, August 14, 2009, 4:52pm; Reply: 2
In case you guys wonder about the parsley root
http://www.recipetips.com/glossary-term/t--35051/parsley-root.asp
- then it is quite common in Europe
We use it like parsnips- and in soups
- flavour I think is better than parsnips
Posted by: Lola, Friday, August 14, 2009, 7:13pm; Reply: 3
looks like salsify
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:08pm; Reply: 4
well it is bigger ;)  and taste different a bit nutty and mild slightly parsley like ;D
Posted by: Lola, Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:16pm; Reply: 5
let s call them albino carrots!! :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:34pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Lola
let s call them albino carrots!! :)


My understanding is that in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran have a variety of carrots that lack pigments. I presume these would rate the same as regular carrots, but maybe not.

For those that want to grow white carrots, I did find seeds online:

http://www.reimerseeds.com/white-satin-carrots.aspx

Turkey I understand has black carrots, which I find not very appealing. But they also have some pretty purple ones.  
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:50pm; Reply: 7
Quoted from C_Sharp


My understanding is that in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Iran have a variety of carrots that lack pigments. I presume these would rate the same as regular carrots, but maybe not.

For those that want to grow white carrots, I did find seeds online:

http://www.reimerseeds.com/white-satin-carrots.aspx

Turkey I understand has black carrots, which I find not very appealing. But they also have some pretty purple ones.  



Last year I had yellow, orange and white carrots

Funny

This year I grow regular and some pink ones.
The pink ones are rather strong in flavour - works better roasted than raw.
Posted by: Lola, Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:21pm; Reply: 8
I couldn t find balsam apple or bitter gourd listed in my swami among all those gourds appearing in your link C!

there s a whole universe of gourds out there it seems! ;)

Kanpyo, Dried Gourd Strips, has anyone tried those?
or the Sea Cucumber......don t think I ll be tasting that one in a while, let alone find it!!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, August 14, 2009, 9:45pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from Lola
I couldn t find balsam apple or bitter gourd listed in my swami among all those gourds appearing in your link C!


In my SWAMI bitter gourd is listed in live foods listed as "Balsam Pear, Bitter Gourd"

Posted by: Lola, Friday, August 14, 2009, 10:17pm; Reply: 10
Xanthosoma
has already been added C.....check the swami update thread
Quoted Text
UPDATE

New food addition:

Malanga, Tannier, Xanthosoma



wrote balsam apple before....it s 'pear', thanks...
still can t find it in the gourd link you posted.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, August 15, 2009, 1:54am; Reply: 11
It can be called balsam apple or pear. SWAMI uses pear.  Actually, Now I cannot find where I posted a gourd link.


Since "Malanga, Tannier, Xanthosoma" was added under "carbohydrates", I presume it refers to the starchy tubor and not the stems or leaves.

There appears to be three genra of elephant ears: Alocasia, Colocasia and Xanthosoma
I did not think I was dealing with Xanthosoma, but I may be wrong.

I had thought Xanthosoma had redish or purple stems. But that appears just be the variety people grow here.  I see green stems in some online pictures.  The plants look right.  

What I eat is green on the outside, but a white spongy on the inside.

Picture: http://vietherbs.com/herb-directory/elephant-ear/
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, August 15, 2009, 3:08am; Reply: 12
the carrot link you posted, took me to the gourds.....sorry
wrote that in the search field......lots of gourds appeared... ;)


I should go harvest away my mom s garden soon!! LOL

who knew!!!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, August 15, 2009, 6:52pm; Reply: 13
Now that we talked so much about Balsam Pear, Balsam apple, Bitter Gourd, Bitter melon, it has got me thinking about the vines of bitter melons.

At the flea market near me, there is a vendor that sells the vines for eating. I got some once and read that you could use the leaves just like spinach.

So I made a smoothie with it.  This was a mistake! I used up the rest of what I bought in stir fries--but I did not care for the taste of it.  

Maybe I could learn to like the leaves, if I knew they were a diamond.  But the fruit is only neutral for me, so I have not bought any more of the vines.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, August 15, 2009, 9:42pm; Reply: 14
maybe dried and ground into a powder might work as a spice, if compliant.....
Posted by: CybrtoothTigress, Sunday, August 16, 2009, 4:49am; Reply: 15
Quoted from Gale D.
Xylitol


It's my understanding it can be derived from corn.  
Posted by: Gale D., Sunday, August 16, 2009, 5:58pm; Reply: 16
Xylitol

Quoted from CybrtoothTigress
It's my understanding it can be derived from corn.  



Yes, it can be. The seller usually provides that information.

I use only Birch bark derived Xylitol from globalsweet.com

Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, August 16, 2009, 6:18pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Lola


I am not sure that Tom ported the list of foods when he migrated the er4yt-UK group to multiply.  If he did, I do not see it.

"To find out what listed American foods are in English, select the relevant category from the menu on the left."

I do not see any menu to use on the left.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, August 16, 2009, 6:39pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from bel
exotic fruits:
1. mangosteens
2. rambutans
3.chickus
4.Water apples (Jambu)



Mangosteens already included

If chickus is Sapote it is alrady listed.
If chickus is Sapodilla it is listed in vegetable protein
If chickus is something else we may need a scientific name or more description to identify what it is.

Jambu -- Until it listed I would assume its rating is similar to a Jambolan
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, August 16, 2009, 6:59pm; Reply: 19
http://www.foodlexicon.net/
this might be a helpful tool for some......

also the search button using the word one needs to translate might have a few old posts discussing the matter
like the fish names etc.....

like John Dory
http://www.google.com/custom?q=John+Dory&sa=Search+The+Site&cof=AH%3Acenter%3BAWFID%3A4452213b291e6613%3B&domains=dadamo.com&sitesearch=dadamo.com

lambs quarters
I believe might just have the same rating as lamb in general
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, August 16, 2009, 7:02pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from bel
Asian food/drinks such as Chrysanthemum tea, wheatgrass, winter tea, grass jelly, herbal jelly, rose syrup, almond drink, Chinese herbs ( ie cooling tea/ liang cha). condiments such as Rice vinegar, rice wine. Fish such as Toman (Snakehead) Vegetables such as Bamboo shoots, Lotus root, lotus paste (commonly used in mooncakes). Also, Vegetable Oil, Palm oil, coconut milk, chinese five-spice powder, dried shrimp, shrimp paste, fish sauce, Pandan Leaves, century egg, quail eggs. ;)


You may want to look at the existing list before saying that foods need to be added.

almond drink - almond milk is alread listed. Almond drink can mean a variety of things. The rating system needs something with a fixed composition. You will probably need to go by the individual ingredients in your beverage product.

Rice vinegar presumably covered by "Vinegar, all types"

Bamboo shoots currently listed

Lotus root currently listed

Vegetable Oil for foods to be listed they need to have a fixed composition. Do you mean Soy, corn, cottonsed, something else?

dried shrimp, shrimp paste   Shrimp is currently listed You may have to rely on that listing for the time being

quail eggs-already listed
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, August 16, 2009, 8:00pm; Reply: 21
bel doesn t have a swami list yet....

check out this swami example when wanting to know
http://www.dadamo.com/SWAMI%20GenoType%20__%20Jane%20Public.pdf
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 1:55am; Reply: 22
Quoted from Schluggell

Yard Long Beans
Natto [All Soy, & Mixed with Barley]


Yard Long Beans already included under vegetable protein
Natto is included but type is not identified
Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 2:20am; Reply: 23
Quoted from Schluggell

...
Durian [Durio sp.]
Samphire, Norfolk Asparagus [Crithmum maritimum]
Strawberry Tree [Arbutus unedo]
Green Mango
Ayu, Sweetfish [Plecoglossus altivelis]
Udo [Aralia cordata]
Asian Pear, Nashi [Pyrus pyrifolia]
Sea Urchin, Erizo, Uni [not picky - ANY]
Szechuan Pepper, Sansho [Zanthoxylum simulans, Z. ailanthoides]
Organ meats of the various common & Horse
Muntjac
Fugu, Pufferfish [typ. Takifugo rubripes]
Daylily, any
Tulip
Magnolia blossoms
Chrysanthemum, any
Yew berry {seedless of course}
Teff [Eragrostis tef]
Wasabi [Eutrema japonica]
Salsify [mainly Scorzonera hispanica, but any Trogopogon sp. as well]
Sea Pineapple, Hoya [Halocynthia roretzi]
Syrian Rue [peganum harmala]
Raw Cocoa Pods
Arum campanulatum (Rox & San)
Eel, Unagi
Conger Eel {and Anago which is not Conger but I digress}
...


In addition to the foods already listed by Lola (and me above):
I recognize these foods in SWAMI:
Durian
Asian Pear
Teff
Eel (Type not identified)

Organ meats-These are listed:

Beef, Heart
Beef, Liver
Beef, Tongue  
Calf, Liver
Sweetbreads
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, August 19, 2009, 2:28am; Reply: 24
Goji, Wolfberry, Matrimony Vine [Lycium chinense or L. barbarum]
Salsify [mainly Scorzonera hispanica, but any Trogopogon sp. as well]
Yardlong Beans [Vigna unquiculata subsp. sesquipedalis]
Natto [All Soy, & Mixed with Barley]

to name a few.....are all up in swami

get an update Schluggell!!
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, August 30, 2009, 4:45am; Reply: 25
great job! :)
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Sunday, August 30, 2009, 4:23pm; Reply: 26
Quoted from C_Sharp
Since we have not had any new requests recently, I created a consolidated list. It omits foods that were noted as already being listed by SWAMI and adds a few items requested in other threads. The list contains 90 items.


Kent, you left off Heavy cream and Light cream. Please add that to the list.  
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, August 30, 2009, 4:36pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from 815
you left off Heavy cream and Light cream. Please add that to the list.  


The list already contains the following entries:

Quoted Text
Cream { Heavy/ whipping cream (cream with 38-40 % fat)}
Dairy variants {raw, ultrapasteurized, different fat content}


I will modify the entry for cream, even though I feel light cream will covered by by "different fat content" of dairy products.

Posted by: Chandon, Sunday, August 30, 2009, 8:55pm; Reply: 28
Regarding Oolong tea, tea expert Mary Lou Heiss told me it is a category unto itself; some kinds are greener than others. I know that Oolong has been studied on its own in terms of health benefits.

I added port (red or white). Are we to consider red or white port in the same way as red or white wine?
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, August 30, 2009, 9:53pm; Reply: 29
Quoted from Lola


lambs quarters
I believe might just have the same rating as lamb in general


It's a weed, Lola.  A tasty weed, if you get it just right.

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.veggiegardeningtips.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/Lambs-Quarters.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.veggiegardeningtips.com/surprising-lambs-quarters/&h=510&w=680&sz=43&tbnid=i_8J5HrtBST80M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=139&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlamb%2527s%2Bquarters&hl=en&usg=__FE3FGVVFv_sPyw764JWgqvGTJrQ=&ei=p_SaSsONJtautgfSp83UBA&sa=X&oi=image_result&resnum=1&ct=image
Posted by: Lola, Monday, August 31, 2009, 2:53am; Reply: 30
got so much yet to learn from you Ribbit! ;)
thanks for the info!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, August 31, 2009, 4:17am; Reply: 31
I think in Spanish lambs quarters is Quelite Cenizo.

Some of the Mexicans around me eat it, but it seems to be not as  popular as epazote.
Posted by: Lola, Monday, August 31, 2009, 3:29pm; Reply: 32
excellent!

yes, in fact quelites are abundant down here!

you never stop learning! ;)
Posted by: paul clucas, Tuesday, September 1, 2009, 4:53pm; Reply: 33
I have consumed both Scrumpy from Kent and Calvados from Normandy.  Both experiences were qualitatively different from drinking any other kind of alcohol that I have had.  

One evening I drank 6 pints of scrumpy, which was not an unusual for volume of alcohol for my 20 year-old self.  Unlike with stout, larger or bitter I had no nausea at all.  For a lark I ran up from Canterbury to the university campus (about a 15 min walk).  I had no need to stop for a rest or to slow down on the way up, which would have been necessary if I was stone cold sober.  Had I drank anything else, I would have been forced to regurgitate from the taxing exercise. Instead of feeling tired I experience a warm euphoria and awoke next morning without any trace of a hangover.

Its sounds like something Elvish out of Middle-Earth, but I would never drink a commercial cider when scrumpy was available.

At my sister's wedding in Normandy we toured a local distiller of Calvados.  I would be willing to pay the price (!!!) of the hundred year-old calvados to taste it again, but I did experience a headache-less hangover.  

Port might also be different from other liquors, but I have nothing definite to go on.

The values for the Red & White Wine, and Beer for me definitely illuminate my immature experiences with them.

I am not suggesting that Swami Dieters should get drunk to test their favorite liquors, but perhaps not all untested alcoholic drinks are equally pathogenic.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Friday, September 4, 2009, 1:38pm; Reply: 34
Suggestion. Have different lists for the common foods of different countries. Then, a person can enter their country and the list for the foods of their country would pop up!  :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, September 7, 2009, 5:43pm; Reply: 35
Quoted from angel
...
Dandelion root and/leaf tea
Pau d'arco/taheebo tea

...

Will this update if we reprint our SWami express at a later time??


Do not expect the items in "Foods to be added" page to appear quickly. There have been a few items that have been corrected and others that have been added.  These changes appear for anyone that reruns their diet report.

Over a 100 new items have been requested. Dr. D. indicated that he would consider adding requested items in the SWAMI update. He has not indicated that all will make it. There are a number of items that I think it would be difficult to get enough information to include.

This update is not yet scheduled nor do we know whether people will have to pay for the upgrade.

Two of the items you requested I consider to be herbal supplements used to treat health issues rather than food items.

It is possible that Dr. D. might choose to have a different product designed to recommend herbal teas, tinctures, ... for naturpaths to use when treating patients rather than incorporating them in SWAMI.  This is speculation -- not based on information.
Posted by: jayneeo, Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:00pm; Reply: 36
there's no almond milk that I know of (but homemade) without nasty additives. :-/
Posted by: C_Sharp, Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 7:03pm; Reply: 37
Quoted from jayneeo
there's no almond milk that I know of


Look for "Milk, Almond" under beverages
Posted by: paul clucas, Friday, September 18, 2009, 3:31pm; Reply: 38
Hemp milk, Oat milk (found on my last foray into the HF section of TGCSS (aka Super Zehrs)
Posted by: pamprice, Sunday, September 20, 2009, 2:44am; Reply: 39
peruano beans
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, September 20, 2009, 7:12pm; Reply: 40
Yeali when you say "Anona" do you you mean: Annona cherimola (Cherimola is already listed).

See discussion of the Anona Genus in: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?m-1250789898/

or this wiki article (the wiki indicates cherimola is the type usually cultivated in Isreal):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherimoya

Or are you refering to another species in the Anona genus?

I think trees found wild in the Africa region are generally: Annona reticulata

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Custard-apple
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Sunday, September 27, 2009, 2:05pm; Reply: 41
Quoted from Ribbit
Acorns (white and red)


Ooooo. I've heard about acorn flour. It's a long process. You have to boil the acorns for a couple of hours, then bake them in the oven until they dry out, then grind them into flour.  I read that it's nutritious and tasty. I've always wanted to try it..!!  :)
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Sunday, September 27, 2009, 2:07pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from Gale D.
Australian Bush Flower Essences:


I could be wrong but those are considered medicinal and the suggestion list is for food. For instance Dr. D gave me some supplements that are herbs that he doesn't have on the food list.  
:)
Posted by: Cristina, Tuesday, November 17, 2009, 11:45pm; Reply: 43
This is the table we created of food choices that are not in the typebase but it is popular in our regions.  We provided research information on the reply numbers listed from the Research on Food Choices for All thread.

This table, posted in the 'Summary of Food choices for All' thread, gets updated regularly as we progress along with the research.  Do you want me to keep on posting these here as we update them?  

Non TypeBase Food Choices Summary
Common NameScientific NameLocationTestimonials
Fish and seafood
Australian Salmon/Kahawai(Arripis truttaceus)AU,NZReply 8,9,12,13,15,16,17,181,207
Barramundi(Lates calcarifer)AU,NZBarra,Giant Perch, Aussie seabass,Silver Jack - Reply 108,114,117
Blue MackerelScomber australasicus      AU,NZJapanece or Pacific or Spotted Mackerel, Spotted Chub - Reply 8, 213
Blue-eyed CodHyperoglyphe antarcticaAU,NZAntarctic Butterfish, Deepsea Trevally, Blue Eye Trevalla,  Reply 32,130
BonitoSarda SppAU,NZReply 215
BreamsPorgy in USAU,NZReply 329
Coral TroutPlectropomus sppAU,NZReply 221
GemfishRexea solandriAU,NZAlso Hake,King Couta, Kingfish, Silver Kingfish and Southern Kingfish Reply 26, 128
HokiMacruronus novaezelandiaeAU,NZBlue Grenadier, Blue Hake, Whiptail Hake - Reply 7
Ocean Breamnemadactylus macropterusAU.Also: Jackass, Morwong Reply 142
Tarakihinemadactylus macropterusNZ.Reply 142
Warehou, blueSeriolella bramaAU,NZReply 214
Fruits
Custard Apple and similarNutritional value comparisonAU,NZReply 379
Custard AppleAnnona AtemoyaAU,NZReply 379

Posted by: C_Sharp, Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 4:12am; Reply: 44
Quoted from Cristina
This is the table we created of food choices that are not in the typebase but it is popular in our regions.  We provided research information on the reply numbers listed from the Research on Food Choices for All thread.

This table, posted in the 'Summary of Food choices for All' thread, gets updated regularly as we progress along with the research.  Do you want me to keep on posting these here as we update them?  

Non TypeBase Food Choices Summary
Common NameScientific NameLocationTestimonials
Fish and seafood
Australian Salmon/Kahawai(Arripis truttaceus)AU,NZReply 8,9,12,13,15,16,17,181,207
Barramundi(Lates calcarifer)AU,NZBarra,Giant Perch, Aussie seabass,Silver Jack - Reply 108,114,117
Blue MackerelScomber australasicus      AU,NZJapanece or Pacific or Spotted Mackerel, Spotted Chub - Reply 8, 213
Blue-eyed CodHyperoglyphe antarcticaAU,NZAntarctic Butterfish, Deepsea Trevally, Blue Eye Trevalla,  Reply 32,130
BonitoSarda SppAU,NZReply 215
BreamsPorgy in USAU,NZReply 329
Coral TroutPlectropomus sppAU,NZReply 221
GemfishRexea solandriAU,NZAlso Hake,King Couta, Kingfish, Silver Kingfish and Southern Kingfish Reply 26, 128
HokiMacruronus novaezelandiaeAU,NZBlue Grenadier, Blue Hake, Whiptail Hake - Reply 7
Ocean Breamnemadactylus macropterusAU.Also: Jackass, Morwong Reply 142
Tarakihinemadactylus macropterusNZ.Reply 142
Warehou, blueSeriolella bramaAU,NZReply 214
Fruits
Custard Apple and similarNutritional value comparisonAU,NZReply 379
Custard AppleAnnona AtemoyaAU,NZReply 379



I think I can post a link in the 'Foods to be added to SWAMI (List only)' thread to the table in the 'Summary of Food choices for All' thread. That way the table will only need to be updated in one place.
Posted by: Cristina, Wednesday, November 18, 2009, 4:19am; Reply: 45
Sounds great!  ;D :)
Posted by: Bekki Shining Bearheart, Monday, June 28, 2010, 7:13pm; Reply: 46
how do we know if/when a food is added?
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, June 28, 2010, 9:47pm; Reply: 47
how do we know if/when a food is added?


The definitive way to know if any foods have been added or updated is to run your SWAMI again.

Any new foods will appear in the listing.

Values of updated foods will be reflected in your new listing.

----

Realistically only a few foods are being added. If a new version of the software is released, you will want to rerun your SWAMI.

If a number of new foods are added you will probably read about it on the forums.

One place to watch is the SWAMI Alerts and Software Updates thread





Posted by: Bekki Shining Bearheart, Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 6:56pm; Reply: 48
KIDNEYS are not listed, I have learned to like them poached for breakfast, thanks to Anglophile husband and English friends, and in steak and kidney pie (great with rice flour crust, parsnips, carrots and beets, not the usual potatoes etc but yummy)-- usually we eat lamb or beef kidneys, since we can get them from a local farmer.
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, November 27, 2010, 7:08pm; Reply: 49
read ingredients in the brime used to pickle.....
Posted by: Lola, Monday, December 6, 2010, 5:23am; Reply: 50
xanthum gum is a corn derivative, but is different than guar gum
gums in general, potentiate lectin activity
Posted by: Cristina, Monday, December 6, 2010, 6:02pm; Reply: 51
Quoted from yaeli
Arrowroot is already included. (Neutral for me.)



Arrowroot the powder, but not the whole tubers ... I am just saying that some foodstuff changes rating when in concentrated mode, so I am hoping for the tubers, like the sweet potato, potatos and other tubers to get their own rating either under live food or carbohydrates ... if you ask me, I think the arrowroot greens (which are also edible) should get the rating under live food and the rhizomes under carbohydrates or live food too ....  ;) :)
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, January 7, 2011, 10:07pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from judygirl
apricot nectar, please



The problem with apricot nectar is that it does not have a fixed composition.

You will need to look at the rating for each ingredient in the apricot nectar product that you drink.
Posted by: balletomane, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 10:56am; Reply: 53
I wanted to know if pickled herring (Scandinavian style) has a different value than herring. In my SWAMI, herring is a diamond food. However, pickled herring often uses some sort of vinegar and other spices as well as sugar to preserve it. I guess it would be an avoid as soon as there is vinegar and sugar as those two are avoids for me, right?

The link to the gravlax recipe that Lola suggested to me wouldn't apply in this case as gravlax is gravlax and pickled herring is quite something else, no?
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:14pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from balletomane
Napa cabbage
http://www.evergreenseeds.com/headtypnapca.html

Fenugreek

Cayenne pepper


Fenugreek is already included in SWAMI under "Live Foods"  I presumed the rating was for the seeds, but given the category it might be fenugreek leaves (methi).
Posted by: balletomane, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 3:39pm; Reply: 55
Ah, I see. I somehow missed that coz I was looking under the spices category, thinking of ground fenugreek that I use for making curry.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 4:20pm; Reply: 56
I always double check both live foods and spices if I don't find it in the first place I look. I've even found what I thought were spices listed under beverages (as an herbal tea.)

I usually go to the PDF file on my computer and do control-F to search for the food, wherever it may be listed.
Posted by: Lola, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 4:22pm; Reply: 57
I just use the herbs mixed with some garlic and onion......sugar ain't a must you know
Posted by: SquarePeg, Thursday, February 3, 2011, 8:04pm; Reply: 58
Fenugreek is such a big part of curry, that I assume it's either neutral or even a superfood, since curry is a superfood.
Posted by: vagbusta, Saturday, March 26, 2011, 11:11am; Reply: 59
I am confuse Is that list that C-SHARP wrote for everybody? I am a warrior a lot of those food are not in my SWAMI. Thanks
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, March 26, 2011, 5:28pm; Reply: 60
I periodically will post  a consolidated listing of foods that people have requested.


Quoted Text
I am confuse Is that list that C-SHARP wrote for everybody? I am a warrior a lot of those food are not in my SWAMI.


The foods requested in the food list thread should be food not already included in SWAMI. The purpose of the list is to request additional foods be included. People do often request foods that are already included in SWAMI.

I try to eliminate foods that are already included in SWAMI and to merge requests for the same food, when I post the consolidated lists.  I am not always successful in my duplicate elimination (mostly because I have to guess whether the names that people used to request actually refer to the same food.)

If the listing you refering to has numbers along with the food names, these are the result a survey I ran asking that people rate the foods that people requested.

We have requests for over 200 foods to be added to SWAMI, it is unlikely that Dr. D. will be able to add all of them.  So the survey was to determine which foods people most wanted included in the survey.

Discussion of the survey on SWAMI food additions is at:

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-xpress/m-1292128240/

Here is a link to the survey:

Additions to SWAMI survey

Posted by: Lola, Monday, June 20, 2011, 8:59pm; Reply: 61
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Lola; i see u giving the SWAMI example print out, i thought this was like MADE out.. if not then any O non explorer can use it instead of buying???


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Dr D
The Jane Public is not a real SWAMI printout. There were just a bunch of filters and switches thrown arbitrarily so as to get a printout.


every O non explorer has their multiple individual variables.....no swami print out is the same, thus PERSONALIZED
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 1:27pm; Reply: 62
Or maybe just clarification on the differences between "tomato" and "tomato juice,"  and how things like tomato sauce and soup are categorized, for those who have different ratings for the two foods.
Posted by: O in Virginia, Wednesday, June 22, 2011, 3:32pm; Reply: 63
Quoted from ruthiegirl
Or maybe just clarification on the differences between "tomato" and "tomato juice,"  and how things like tomato sauce and soup are categorized, for those who have different ratings for the two foods.


Yes, thank you!
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, June 23, 2011, 8:33pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from leeyah87
Acai Berries
Coconut Water (NOT coconut milk)
Edamame
Goji Berries


Use Acai Berries entry under Fruit
Use existing coconut entries
Use existing soybean entry under vegetable proteins
Use "Goji, Wolfberry" entry under fruits
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, June 23, 2011, 9:58pm; Reply: 65
Quoted from FitnessAddict
Grits!!!!


Grits are coarsely ground corn (sometimes nixtamalized as well as being ground), so you should be able to use the rating for "Cornmeal, Hominy, Polenta" in carbohydrates.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Friday, June 24, 2011, 12:44am; Reply: 66
Grits are corn, right? It should have the same value as cornmeal.
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Friday, June 24, 2011, 1:16am; Reply: 67
yeah i know, but i really didnt think about it, im like they might as well add it just to make things easier to look.  :-/
Posted by: brinyskysail, Monday, July 4, 2011, 3:29am; Reply: 68
Quoted from FitnessAddict
carbonated water
phosphoric acid
Caramel Color


Pepsi?  I would think that would be an avoid for anyone :-/
Posted by: FitnessAddict, Monday, July 4, 2011, 3:36am; Reply: 69
Quoted from brinyskysail


Pepsi?  I would think that would be an avoid for anyone :-/

lol, no. i checked carbonated water on swami and surprisingly didnt find it, so i figured why not add the rest of the ingredients usually found in soft drinks  ;D ;D
Posted by: Green Root, Sunday, August 14, 2011, 1:10pm; Reply: 70
Sooks, you mentioned butter oil. Isn't it the same as ghee / clarified butter? Maybe not, but I think it's quite near...
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, October 7, 2011, 2:50pm; Reply: 71
Quoted from 14445
"mandarin". Or has this fruit simply been considered an orange? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_orange


I consider Satsuma, Owari, Clementine, Mandarin, and Tangerine to be closely related and use the Tangerine rating for all.
Posted by: yaeli, Wednesday, November 16, 2011, 4:20am; Reply: 72
I've just run my SWAMI for the second time (first time Oct 2009). I've also read this week a thread about Lion's Mane. I consume medicinal mushroom extracts regularly, and I know they've become popular supplements. It is possible that they form very potent nutritious additions, and I'd appreciate and of course will be very happy if they are included in SWAMI, as are maitake and shitake . Thanks!  (book2)
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, November 17, 2011, 1:49pm; Reply: 73
This is my food of choice to be added to swami.. plain old cream,   THANKS
Posted by: Marc121, Sunday, November 20, 2011, 9:02am; Reply: 74
sweet potato leaves
star fruit
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, November 20, 2011, 3:41pm; Reply: 75
Quoted from Marc121
sweet potato leaves
star fruit


Sweet potato leaves can be found under live foods

"Starfruit, Carambola" is under fruits
Posted by: Marc121, Saturday, November 26, 2011, 4:57am; Reply: 76
Quoted from C_Sharp


Sweet potato leaves can be found under live foods

"Starfruit, Carambola" is under fruits


What about tongkat ali?
Posted by: C_Sharp, Saturday, November 26, 2011, 5:42am; Reply: 77
Quoted from Marc121


What about tongkat ali?


Tongkat Ali is not included in any of the lists, I think this is primarily because in the US Tongkat Ali is only used as supplement and not as a food item.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, August 26, 2012, 3:23am; Reply: 78
Quoted from prunella
einkorn wheat, please


The rating for emmer wheat is generally assumed to apply to einkorn as well.
Posted by: BHealthy, Sunday, September 2, 2012, 4:39am; Reply: 79
Quoted from yaeli
Medicinal Mushrooms:
Aagaricus Blazei Murill
Cordyceps
Reishi
Chaga
Lion's Mane (Hericium)


I second this!
Posted by: wanthanee, Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 12:44am; Reply: 80
Gotu Kola( Centella asiatica Leaf) This one is in HFS.
Neem tree (Azadirachta indica)This one is in HFS

Please let me know if you need the products below for test.  I will be more than happy to mail them to you.

Piper sarmentosum
Sesbania grandiflora
Fingerroot
Galangal
Kaffir lime leaves
Houttuynia cordata thumb

Thank you very much.  :D
Posted by: Averno, Saturday, September 22, 2012, 12:01pm; Reply: 81
Quoted from ArwenLegolas
Where can I find the Nigella (charnushka/kalonji)? Does TJ or WF have them?


TJ & WF I don't know, but Penzeys has it.  They call it charnushka, and it is indeed peppery.  
Posted by: wanthanee, Friday, May 10, 2013, 5:39am; Reply: 82
Quoted from wanthanee


Fresh coconut water (liquid from coconuts)
Fresh Aloe Vera(From the plant)
Aloe Vera Juice from the bottle in HFS
Dries Rosehips from the bulk in HFS

Thank you. :D ;D


:D Got ya! Aloe Vera is in my Swami. Thank you.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, May 13, 2013, 1:24pm; Reply: 83
I assume that the dried rosehips from the bulk bin in the HFS use the value for "rosehip tea" in the "Beverages" section of SWAMI.
Posted by: wanthanee, Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 4:53pm; Reply: 84
Quoted from ruthiegirl
I assume that the dried rosehips from the bulk bin in the HFS use the value for "rosehip tea" in the "Beverages" section of SWAMI.


  :D Oh! yes, it is in my Swami "Beverages" section. Thank you. :)
Posted by: wanthanee, Tuesday, May 14, 2013, 5:14pm; Reply: 85
Quoted from wanthanee
Gotu Kola( Centella asiatica Leaf) This one is in HFS.
Neem tree (Azadirachta indica)This one is in HFS

Thank you so much.  :D ;D


:D Never mind, Gotu Kola is in "connectivar" for all type.

http://www.4yourtype.com/prodinfo.asp?number=NP036
Posted by: Xuxuzinha, Sunday, May 26, 2013, 9:00am; Reply: 86
Coconut sugar.

Is this list still active?
Posted by: C_Sharp, Sunday, May 26, 2013, 4:53pm; Reply: 87
Quoted from Xuxuzinha

Is this list still active?


The food to be added to SWAMI list and the survey is still 'active'

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/MXCNCMP

Active in the sense that you can add items to it.

There never was any commitment from Dr. D'Adamo to add items on the list to SWAMI.




The list itself should contain no discussion.

Food items only belong in the list.

Discussion occurs in this thread.

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Another reminder to folks (This is not in regards to the coconut sugar addition) -- We only need a food items added to the list once.

To express support of items already on the list. Use the survey or comment about the items in this thread.
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, July 12, 2013, 2:16am; Reply: 88
Quoted from Giasabine
Newbie here - I would like to know about:

purple potatoes
matcha
wasabi
sweetie, also called oro blanco

As long as the purple potato is the same as the standard white potato with a different color skin, it will have the same rating as Potato, White w/ skin.

I use the horseradish rating for wasabi.

While probably not perfect, since Oro Blanco (sweetie) is a cross between Pummelo and Grapefruit, I would use the lower rating of the two for the rating until there is a specific rating for it...
Posted by: Giasabine, Monday, July 15, 2013, 1:01am; Reply: 89
Sun Beh Nim,

thank you for your answer. I'll use your recommendations. The purple potato flesh is actually deep purple. The skin is kind of brown, like a baking potato.
Posted by: Goldie, Thursday, July 25, 2013, 11:22am; Reply: 90
Is anyone listening here? and is anyone even trying to work on this?  i

If no: could  we expand knowledge by testing it in some way on our own bodies???

Find a way to communicate on each item by BTD specific findings??
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, July 25, 2013, 3:53pm; Reply: 91
I started the SWAMI list thread, the discussion of SWAMI list thread, and SWAMI survey threads.  Because I was interested.  There was never any commitment from Dr. D'Adamo or DNP to expand the SWAMI food list.


If we are interested in BTD specific findings instead of SWAMI ratings, we may want to use a BTD thread so as to not exclude those that do not have SWAMI.

There are some threads related to adding BTD food ratings.  Such as: http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b-typebase/m-1179923933/s-new/

Other threads related to BTD ratings are in the Eat Right and Typebase forums and may be better depending on the nature of the discussion..
Posted by: jemared, Sunday, December 22, 2013, 8:35pm; Reply: 92
In a global society we are being introduced to new foods all the time. How can I find out my sensitivity to foods that are not on my SWAMI list
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, December 22, 2013, 8:43pm; Reply: 93
Quoted from jemared
In a global society we are being introduced to new foods all the time. How can I find out my sensitivity to foods that are not on my SWAMI list

Try a small amount, then a little more, etc., monitoring each time to see if there is any reaction...  
Posted by: C_Sharp, Thursday, February 20, 2014, 1:20am; Reply: 94
Quoted from seacrab
Apologies if these have been mentioned already:

Xanthan Gum
Lychees
Cacao Powder
Maca Powder


Lychees use Litchi Nuts under vegetable protein

Xanthan gum not exact but you will get an idea of what your rating would be looking at your rating for guar gum, mastic gum, and Acacia

Cacao Powder use chocolate - the rating for chocolate in SWAMI is not for chocolate bars in the grocery store.  Instead it appears to be for this powder in the USDA Nutrient database:

http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/6078?fg=&man=&lfacet=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=&qlookup=Cocoa%2C+dry+powder%2C+unsweetened

Maca does not have a good equivalent. Assume neutral and see how you react to this food.
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