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Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Monday, August 10, 2009, 9:46am
Ok I am curisous IF any of you Nomads have swamied
- would you please share your experience  :D

What is different compared to regular Nomad- how do you like it etc...


( I cant afford to pay more than 100 dollars for it= price here in Eu shop >:( so I have to wait for a while, for a cheaper option :'( )

BUT I would love to hear how you like it. :D I am so curious
Posted by: Alek, Monday, August 10, 2009, 6:33pm; Reply: 1


Not yet, doing so well on Nomad diet, but will go for it, just to see the difference.
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Monday, August 10, 2009, 7:03pm; Reply: 2
Thanks Alek
I loove beeing a Nomad as well  :D Feel so good when I eat egg and cheese- that it makes sense why I felt bad on the explorer diet
( I just miss a few of my former foods- so it could be fun if they returned ;))


Maybe the nomads are just so satiesfied that they donīt need to be swamied ;)
Posted by: yaman, Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 12:39pm; Reply: 3
I did SWAMI my B+ non-sec son. He was Nomad by the book, he turned out as Explorer from SWAMI. Actually I always suspected that he'd more fit into being an Explorer.
Posted by: Chanur, Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 6:46pm; Reply: 4
I had a similar experience. By the book I'm a Teacher, SWAMI switched me to a Nomad. I did not have any of my original measurements wrong. SWAMI picked up something about me the book didn't or couldn't take into consideration.

The Teacher never fit my physical appearance and the longer I was on the diet the more it seemed not right for me. Teacher lists did generally fit me better though than the AB BTD lists.

SWAMI so far has been wonderful!!! If you get to a point that you can afford it, I recommend you get it.
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:16pm; Reply: 5
Interesting   :D- thanks for sharing

I just HOPE I wont return to Explore  :(
- Gatherer could be ok... :-/
but Explorer Doesnīt work for me.
Posted by: nowishow, Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 7:25pm; Reply: 6
Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Interesting   :D- thanks for sharing

I just HOPE I wont return to Explore  :(
- Gatherer could be ok... :-/
but Explorer Doesnīt work for me.


Don't worry too much. Whatever you get would be "just for you" so it would have to be perfect!

Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 7:38am; Reply: 7
Quoted from nowishow


Don't worry too much. Whatever you get would be "just for you" so it would have to be perfect!



True ;)
BUT I would never ever give up eggs, chocolate or cheese  :P
I used to say I am a chocolate, egg, cheese eating explorer ;D

Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 7:47am; Reply: 8
I got my swamitest in 2007....has been described as warrior..but how can it be with such an amount of meats??) ;)... no-no-nooo I am nearly sure being a nomad with explorer wings ;) ;D....and the AB nonniefoodlist are anyway better for me...especially those written in minuscule words...why A2B..should not... :o :-/ :P ;D ;D
Posted by: Tea Rose, Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 1:45pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from Henriette Bsec


I used to say I am a chocolate, egg, cheese eating explorer ;D



SWAMI classified me as an Explorer - chocolate and eggs are neutral for me.  Also Mozzarella is a superfood and I have about 4 other cheeses that are neutral (Farmer, Feta, Romanian Urda and Indian Buffalo Milk Cheese).  So I guess I am a chocolate, egg and cheese eating Explorer  ;D

I really don't eat much cheese, if I am truthful here - I really only like the mozzarella and only eat it very sparingly.

Tea Rose


Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 2:24pm; Reply: 10
Quoted from Tea Rose


SWAMI classified me as an Explorer - chocolate and eggs are neutral for me.  Also Mozzarella is a superfood and I have about 4 other cheeses that are neutral (Farmer, Feta, Romanian Urda and Indian Buffalo Milk Cheese).  So I guess I am a chocolate, egg and cheese eating Explorer  ;D

I really don't eat much cheese, if I am truthful here - I really only like the mozzarella and only eat it very sparingly.

Tea Rose


  ;D
That is great

But I still think I fit nomad better ( and measured to be nomad even as a rh - )

ai I hope to stay a nomad.



Posted by: Tea Rose, Wednesday, August 12, 2009, 3:04pm; Reply: 11
If Nomad feels right to you, then it probably is!  

Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, August 13, 2009, 9:45am; Reply: 12
Well I had a early b-day present and got swamied  :K)  :K)  :K)

and how weird it is;
I am a Gatherer  :o :o :o :o :o

Your results: 43 % of your epigenetic variation is encapsulated in the GT2 Gatherer profile.
however with a RECEPTOR TYPE epigenetic worldview

( well I donīt fit the 2 Phychological at all ;)

and it is interesting that in the book I came out as Nomad.

Biochemical ;
Well I am not rh positive or non taster or non secretor - or have high estrogen levels...

so it must be my fingerprints that tipped it  :-/
7 whorls, and 3 loops, 2 of my fingers doesnīt match

So while I still think lots of nomads stuff fits - I must be some kind of weird Gatherer/normad type

Well the food is great;

LOTS of B food 8)

4 servings of red meat
and veal has turned into superfood :D
( great when Iīve got lots of grass fed veal in the freezer)

3 servings of poultry

Turkey is still superfood
and chicken is still avoid ( I havent eaten chicken in 10 years so I donīt mind  ;))

5 servings fish :o well  I have to work on that
Lots of the fish I like are still superfoods or even diamonds like tuna, salmon and cod  :D
Scallops have turned into black dot  :( (one of the fishy things I can make Emma eat  ::))
But Itīll return.

8 servings of eggs :D
eggs are superfoods

Dairy
Cow milk (WHOLE ) is superfood :D I KNEW I was right
skimmilk is just neutral ::) ::)
Sadly some of my cheeses have become black dots
- but I still got lots of cheeses
;D

Ghee is still superfood and butter neutral

vegetable proteins - 5 servings pr week.

Got a lot of my old  bean friends back
:D- nuts are good ;  dismonds like
almonds, walnuts , flax, macadamia pecans
and superfoods like
brazil,Pumpkins  :o

Oils 3 tablespoons pr week :-/
lost my coconut oil :'( ( strange cause it healed my both my upset tummy and my problems with fungus...
noticed the swami  only says coconutoil
- not virgin as it says in the book ??) ??) ??)

grains 2 servings pr day
spelt is superfood  :K) and all the avoids I donīt eat normally
- actually I seem to have got more variety.

Vegetables...
well leek became * dot
- but I looove all my veggies ;D
  a weird combo of Nomad, B type and Gatherer

Fruits 2 servings pr day ( well I do that right now ;))

I havenīt lost much there;

bitter melon, durian , persimmon, prickly pear , starfruits are not common here in Denmark  ;D

While diamond fruits like raspberries, abricot, cranberries,watermelon, nectarine/peach are and apples, strawberries,pear ORANGE :o blueberrie and bananas etc are superfoods ;D

CHOCOLATE is diamond ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

nothing on the toxic list Iīll miss.


Well beverages are bit more sad :(

Good stuff
black tea is suddenly superfood
white wine and coffe neutral
but red wine  and beer are * dot  :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
well if I get pregnant I have to take a break any how.

well sugar is JUST black dot  :o
maple syrup and honey neutral  :)
I wonīt miss aspartame, HFCS ketchup or dextose :P

so even though I donīt feel like a gatherer
a part from being a endo-morphic , having a gynic opening
- almond shaped jaw and being B type...
I seem to be a weird B Gatherer with some nomad traits as well :D

Well I can only say- Let the computer choose for you. ;D
Posted by: bel, Thursday, August 13, 2009, 11:42am; Reply: 13
Why are there so many people with Swami results differing from what you originally thought you were?  ??)
Are we all genotyping ourselves wrongly? Question to those who had a change in genotype through swami:
How did you feel when you followed the foodlist of the Genotype you thought you were and were you successful in shedding those pounds?  :)
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Thursday, August 13, 2009, 11:56am; Reply: 14
Well Bell
- when I used the book they didnīt look at my fingerprints as well as other measurements- so it seems to be more precise when you are swamied. and it looks like I am not a pure gatherer but a 100 % my own type

About the food
The majority of my foodlist look pretty much like the Nomad list  - just with a few nice surprises;)

Foods has maybe changed from neutral to superfoods or diamonds.
Only a few have changed from superfoods to * dot and toxic.

Since I have done BTD 10 years I KNEW that milk was good for me- and bingo went from toxic to superfood ;)

This list looks much more like the foods I eat for loosing weight normally - maybe a tiny bit more grains that I normally do  :-/

I lost lts of weight when I went from vegetarian to regular B diet
I havenīt followed the nomad diet close enough to say if I could have lost weight on it - but this personal diet isnīt so different  so amybe I would.

BUT it is clear to me why I put so much weight on when I was vegan and vegetarian=
My new diet says:
5 pt 5-7 oz meat
3 pt 5-7 poultry
5 pt fish and
8 eggs  :o :o :o
Posted by: Chanur, Thursday, August 13, 2009, 6:03pm; Reply: 15
Quoted from bel
Why are there so many people with Swami results differing from what you originally thought you were?  ??)
Are we all genotyping ourselves wrongly?
In my specific case the fact that I am an AB makes it much harder to pinpoint which part of me (A or B) is more dominant. Types O, A, & B  get "good" associations with specific genotypes in the 45-55% range. The AB's have a "good" association with that number down in the 30's because there is an extra genotype possibility (4 instead of 3).

Also, as HenrietteBsec said, the advanced charts don't take into consideration the biometrics as much as SWAMI does nor can you enter in any medical data about yourself or your blood relatives in the book version so SWAMI has a more precise snap shot of the individual so you get a much more personalized/accurate diet.
Quoted from bel
Question to those who had a change in genotype through swami:
How did you feel when you followed the foodlist of the Genotype you thought you were and were you successful in shedding those pounds?  :)
The book did bring to light my gluten sensitivity - it cleared up the horizontal "white lines" issue. In general, I felt fine, but would occasionally have cravings (mostly for foods which I got back with SWAMI). The longer I was on the Teacher diet though the more it became apparent that something was "off" a bit - example: my monthly cycle started changing. At the time I thought it could possibly be early menopause, but there were other things as well that were not as easy to explain.

From Melissa's blog that shared some of her notes from the most recent conference I learned vertical white lines (not horizontal) are indicators of hormone imbalance(s). Those had never disappeared (but they did improve some) on the Teacher diet. Within one week of the SWAMI switch they were noticeably improved.

For your second question, about weight loss, it was coming off, but the longer I was on the diet the slower and slower it came off. I thought it was because of stress or not needing as many calories or not enough exercise so I tried more exercise, then eating less, etc., but it did eventually get to the point that it just stalled completely. Dead in the water and nothing would make the weight I still needed to loose budge...just like what had happened to me with BTD. Taking into account my weight setpoint possibly re-adjusting didn't work either.That was when the cravings started to intensify.

I new that SWAMI would be available so I kept to the Teacher list since it did seem a better overall fit than the BTD and listened to my body too so I did give in to the cravings once I became convinced it was something I might really need because it was real food, not "junk".

Teacher results were swift. SWAMI results even more.
Posted by: bel, Friday, August 14, 2009, 10:17am; Reply: 16
Quoted from Henriette Bsec
Well Bell
- when I used the book they didnīt look at my fingerprints as well as other measurements- so it seems to be more precise when you are swamied. and it looks like I am not a pure gatherer but a 100 % my own type

  :o :o :o


hmm.. i thought that the book did state that there are no inbetweens (overlaps) of your Genotype? I mean, its either you are a Gatherer or a Nomad?
I think i'm a nomad, but now I'm not too sure. Are dairy products like Yogurt a superfood for Gatherers?
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, August 14, 2009, 10:29am; Reply: 17
Quoted from bel


hmm.. i thought that the book did state that there are no inbetweens (overlaps) of your Genotype? I mean, its either you are a Gatherer or a Nomad?
I think i'm a nomad, but now I'm not too sure. Are dairy products like Yogurt a superfood for Gatherers?


Well there isnīt any in betweens but when I look a my new programs it is a funny mixture.
and I am a Gatherer that has the nomad worldview.

Well yoghurt isnīt superfood :-/- just neutral
- but whole fat milk is superfood
and several cheeses like ricotta and cottage cheese, feta are diamond
Posted by: bel, Friday, August 14, 2009, 1:11pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Henriette Bsec


Well there isnīt any in betweens but when I look a my new programs it is a funny mixture.
and I am a Gatherer that has the nomad worldview.

Well yoghurt isnīt superfood :-/- just neutral
- but whole fat milk is superfood
and several cheeses like ricotta and cottage cheese, feta are diamond


Thats interesting... does it mean that your physical attributes are that of a gatherer? If thats the case, how does our worldviews affect us? This GTD is getting more and more complicated and complex. What are the key differences between Gatherer and Nomads? The fingerprints? Also, it states on the GTD website that there is a Swami Genotype coming up in Sept? What is the difference between that and the current SwamiXpress?
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, August 14, 2009, 4:02pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from bel


Thats interesting... does it mean that your physical attributes are that of a gatherer? If thats the case, how does our worldviews affect us? This GTD is getting more and more complicated and complex. What are the key differences between Gatherer and Nomads? The fingerprints? Also, it states on the GTD website that there is a Swami Genotype coming up in Sept? What is the difference between that and the current SwamiXpress?


Absolutely no idea  ;) ??) ??) ??)
But I like my new food list- so I just have to get used to the new identity.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:21pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from bel
Also, it states on the GTD website that there is a Swami Genotype coming up in Sept? What is the difference between that and the current SwamiXpress?

SWAMI GenoType is intended to be used by practitioners that have received training (have MIFHI certification).

The product works much like the Xpress product, but the person running it has many more choices.  For instance, when a practitioner runs SWAMI GenoType, they can choose to emphasize foods high in a particular amino acid, or to deemphasize foods that contain a particular mineral.  There are some settings for adjusting the results for particular health conditions. A practitioner can manually rate individual foods (say if a client has an allergy to eggs and you wanted to set that food to an avoid even though it would normally be a beneficial).

It is a tool with more power and flexibility than the Xpress product, but requires more knowledge to effectively use it (and not shoot yourself in the foot with it).
Posted by: Henriette Bsec, Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:49pm; Reply: 21
a ha thanks
very interesting - now I just wish the GTD ( or even the BTD ) idea would spread to Denmark and Scandinavia :D
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