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Posted by: skoriginal, Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 5:43pm
Hi everyone!  I keep coming back to the BTD... Just need to STICK with it!

Does anyone know if being a non-secretor would affect blood tests that screen for cancer, like CA125 for instance?  Also, does it impact allergy testing?

This is something I've been wondering about and thought I'd ask. :)

Thanks for your input!
Posted by: Dr. D, Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 6:30pm; Reply: 1
It affects CA19-9, CA 27-29, Sialyl Lewis X and DUPAN.

These tumor markers will be missing or artificially lower in non-secretors.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 6:37pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from skoriginal
Hi everyone!  I keep coming back to the BTD... Just need to STICK with it!


Hi Skoriginal,
  Do yourself a favor...don't leave anymore. Take it from someone who futzed around since 1998 leaving and coming back and finally realizing after trying every diet from Atkins to Weight Watchers, that I only felt really good on the A diet and then even better on an individualized diet from Dr. D'Adamo.  :)
Posted by: skoriginal, Tuesday, July 21, 2009, 7:15pm; Reply: 3
Thanks so much for your replies!

Dr. D'Adamo, I am honored that you responded to the question. :)  Thank you again so much... The reply was very helpful!

Mayflowers, you are SO right.  I'm convinced and read through LR4YT last night again.  It's the plan I feel best on and I know it's right for me (and good for everyone who follows it).  I need to keep coming here and find a few buddies to keep me on track.

Very best wishes... Thank you again,
Stefani
Posted by: Curious, Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 12:49am; Reply: 4
Quoted from Dr. D
It affects CA19-9, CA 27-29, Sialyl Lewis X and DUPAN.

These tumor markers will be missing or artificially lower in non-secretors.

That is very interesting. I had blood tests for CEA, CA125, CA15.3 and CA19.9AxSym and they were all negative. I thought that this was great, but from reading your post, Dr. D., it seems that at least CA19.9 would be low anyway due to me being non-secretor.
Are there any other tests non-secretors could do that would be more meaningful?
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 2:03pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Dr. D
It affects CA19-9, CA 27-29, Sialyl Lewis X and DUPAN.

These tumor markers will be missing or artificially lower in non-secretors.

This is very interesting and worthy of a five star rating for the thread.  I wonder if doctors, presumably knowing about the above-stated influences of secretor status on certain tests, always test for secretor status when doing those other tests.  One would hope so.

Note:  I'm going to place a link to this thread as a sticky in the nonnie forum, as it could help get this info to more people.  However, the thread itself seems to be in the correct forum, since LR4YT is the place to discuss secretor status information and issues (while the nonnie clubhouse is more a place for peer support for nonnies).
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, July 22, 2009, 9:40pm; Reply: 6
Quoted Text
I wonder if doctors, presumably knowing about the above-stated influences of secretor status on certain tests, always test for secretor status when doing those other tests.  One would hope so.


wishful thinking!!! ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, July 24, 2009, 5:24am; Reply: 7
we are trying to get the lewis test implemented here in Switzerland, but often docs tells us that this method isn't valid or even not needed or too old  :-/......
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Friday, July 24, 2009, 11:40am; Reply: 8
Good info to run circles around the docs at the hospital. ;).
Love to see their faces when I come out with something that sounds smart. :)

Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Friday, July 24, 2009, 1:03pm; Reply: 9
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en-us&ei=7bBpSrKLFt2Btgf2jf2xCw&resnum=0&q=CA19-9%20in%20non%20secretors&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=ws

Just did a search, seems Dr. D maybe right on this ;D ;D ;D ( chuckle)
Posted by: Curious, Saturday, July 25, 2009, 12:47am; Reply: 10
The question I have is: Are there other tests we can do if the cancer tests are not valid for nonsecretors? Or do we just have to accept that there are no tests for us?
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, July 25, 2009, 3:08am; Reply: 11
no, simply educate your Dr on that very fact, hand him written scientific info, make him aware so he interprets your exams accordingly.
Posted by: ArwenLegolas, Saturday, August 18, 2012, 4:24pm; Reply: 12
Does anybody know if Secretor Status affects people with Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia
Posted by: Bootsie, Monday, January 9, 2017, 3:08am; Reply: 13
I am new to this, suppose to get my book tomorrow but been trying my best with a few slip ups for a week and a half.  I feel better than I have since I came down with thyroid cancer in 2014.  I just got my blood test done for this year, last Friday, curious how they come out. I made some gluten free Oatmeal pancakes this morning and my little cheeweinie (Rosie) eats with me and she loved them. We had honey with them hope that is alright given up all diet sugar.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, January 9, 2017, 3:22am; Reply: 14
Welcome Bootsie!

What's  your blood type?
Posted by: Bootsie, Monday, January 9, 2017, 3:25am; Reply: 15
Thank you! I am type A.
Posted by: C_Sharp, Monday, January 9, 2017, 4:25pm; Reply: 16
Honey is:

20 percent water,
30 percent glucose  (type of sugar)
40 percent fructose (natural sugar in fruit juices),
7 percent maltose (another type of sugar)
1 percent sucrose  (Table sugar - combination of glucose and fructose)

So Honey is essentially sugar.

So I am not sure why you have given up sugar, but if you want to avoid sugar in all its forms (pretty difficult), honey has got to go.

If you have just given up table sugar, honey is okay.

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Now if you are trying to follow the blood type diet,

Honey and (brown or white)sugar are neutral for A secretors.

If you are a nonsecretor, honey is neutral but sugar (Brown and White) is an avoid.

More on secretor status:  http://www.dadamo.com/txt/index.pl?1008


Posted by: Lola, Monday, January 9, 2017, 5:08pm; Reply: 17
your cancer book will have accurate ratings for sweeteners in your case
Posted by: O-Kaya, Tuesday, January 10, 2017, 10:22pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Dr. D
It affects CA19-9, CA 27-29, Sialyl Lewis X and DUPAN.

These tumor markers will be missing or artificially lower in non-secretors.


That is scary, and also really good to know.  Thank you!
Posted by: keys, Monday, January 23, 2017, 10:14pm; Reply: 19
I am a non-secretor, Blood Type A, and found removing sugar to be absolutely true. I don't eat honey either, because as a low- carb,  too many carbohydrates make me hungry.  Since I have a sugar craving, I chew Xylitol Gum.
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