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Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, December 19, 2008, 6:41pm
today I drove my ex-bf. to our ancient doc.to get some news about the lab.tests done last week. I've checked him for several times and always he showed up a very high grade of typical 0-shapement of depression, inflammation etc...the whole typical
issues and pics of an *O gatherer" in his mid sixties...

Ok we have had to follow the program of emergency, coz he wasn't willing to look for himself for a longer time (since I left:-/ )
blaaaa.....(goofy)(goofy)(constipated)....

So he was diagnosed with heavy anemia and depression....dito that
he is attained from a liver issue....

when I tried to make clear what I treated in the last years without  any success coz of the toughy ego of the client... :-/ so the MD's were built up against BTD
and complementary med. :-/ >:( >:(
(constipated)(mad_geek)(mad_geek)
I told the doc that I never allow myselve to interact in things I don't know nor that I'm not informed...and also that he just doesn't know with whom he is confronted right now!!! ;) :D(mad)(gangsta)(shrug)

omG....they really thought they rented truth.....(smartyp)
btw...this MD claimed really that complementary medicine is only ok for healthy people....hääää???))))...what... :-/ :o :P
guys and gals...from what are we talkin about??)... :X ??) ::) >:(
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Friday, December 19, 2008, 6:50pm; Reply: 1
Hi Isa I think of you ; it so hard to fight for the persons we care, we do not need not to be understood from professionals whose help you need . My brother has the same approach and refuse to be a celiac as he is and every advice for my parents !
A Kiss maria Giovanna
Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, December 19, 2008, 7:03pm; Reply: 2
half of mine I want to thank you of the bottom of my heart :K)


btw... he's a funny guy: an 0Rh- C+D-E+  as recipient
and an O Rh + as being the donor......

Peter, is that gatherer or merely explorer's issue's ??) :o....
Posted by: Susana, Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:09pm; Reply: 3
Quoted from Amazone I.
coz he wasn't willing to look for himself for a longer time (since I left:-/ )(


Well anyone would go into depression after your departure. Life with you or without you... quite different... night and day. Don't blame it on us O's and our O ssociated age related whatever lol!

You are so sweet to still be helping him. Tough job when he does not contribute. He is doing it on purpose so happines comes back to him ::)

:K)

Posted by: Amazone I., Friday, December 19, 2008, 8:42pm; Reply: 4
nope dearle, at first he was very happy t h a t I've left ;)....
just no more laberings about BTD and his own healthconcerns, much easier for him to lay back on wheat, pork...etc.... :X(dissappointed)(what)(worried)..... so now he has to pay his
own bill..... :-/ :B(eek)
Posted by: +Aan, Saturday, December 20, 2008, 2:42am; Reply: 5
That's OK last I heard my ex was brain dead because of drugs taken pre-me during-me and post-me. It is very sad to hear about ex's. They pi$$ you off but you still feel bad when something happens to them...Aani
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, December 20, 2008, 8:12am; Reply: 6
Aani, aren't women ...weird??) ;) ;D.....ooooh yessss we are :-/
Posted by: Susana, Saturday, December 20, 2008, 10:42am; Reply: 7
The best recommendation is to do the same as we do with dogs. Get a new one! ;)

:K)
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Saturday, December 20, 2008, 11:59am; Reply: 8
Susana beware ! By logic you seem have told that men are a little bit like dogs !!!! (Every woman has thught at least once this) . Really I've met also a lot of blessed friends, also if not a love for me.
Sorry guys that you could noticed the feminine equivalent of misoginia in my post, but really I have not deep prejudices on men and the most I met are good or someone wonderful between you.
Maria Giovanna
Posted by: Susana, Saturday, December 20, 2008, 1:48pm; Reply: 9
Written messages are very dangerous lol! Thank you Maria Giovanna. No I have never thought men where like dogs. Ever. Some do behave like them though. But alas! some dogs are the most charming lol! So which dogs do we refer to? ;)

I just meant that when one can not live with or without a specific man the best remedy is to find a new one  ;). And the statement is also in a "joke" manner. Just tempting ISA so she would go back to her good humor ;D.

:K)
Posted by: Amazone I., Saturday, December 20, 2008, 2:37pm; Reply: 10
ahem...(blush)(grin)(pick_nose)(funny)(funny)do YOU like shlubbering men ??) ;)..... ;D ;D likewise boxers  :D ;) :P
sorry guys just couldn't resist, I won't go into bad manners when I'm going to read something against us.....(mad)(shrug)(goofy)(whistle)
Posted by: +Aan, Saturday, December 20, 2008, 3:41pm; Reply: 11
A lot of times though we stay to try to nuture or fix things for the betterment of the other. I stayed many years past the time I should have left for my first. The second though is a pretty good guy. He worked (now retired) didn't do drugs, don't smoke, drink, or run around with other women. I think I'll keep him for a while more...Aani
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, December 21, 2008, 9:48am; Reply: 12
lucky you ;) :D.....(clap)(grin)(ok)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, December 21, 2008, 5:32pm; Reply: 13
what's about cytochrom 450 and its issues....(smile)(huh)(huh)
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 10:25am; Reply: 14
no replies here from the whitecoated.....about this thema.....(hospital)

so since yesterday he is in hospital for further checks and he is that weak....crazy....
it seems that they take it for guaranted that he is just developing colon-ca and I ordered *salvestrol* and will have a look for a colleague for further bioresonance treatments . As he is an O secretor, I fear that higher amounts of curcuma isn't the hit.... so I think we will continue with pao d'arco as well as an inflammation killer
and recommendations outta the ca-book from P.D. Have to test him on what he will react most positively.... so we can go further....
He isn't willing to accept any chemo-nor radiation therapy.....  I do understand this very well....... why disturbing a weak system with further poisons??) if healing isn't guaranted ......why not sustaining with adequate but natural stuffs which are also superbe in their cancer fighting aspects....?.....I'm not willing to give up my positive attitudes about complementary medicine sustaines....even in such a bad
situation.....I am convinced that we can handle it in a good manner and that we will have good results here.......

(smile)


of course do I feel unsure and feary but merely coz of the psyche of the patient, in a deep depression and even ready to give up sometimes.... :P :( :-/
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 11:14am; Reply: 15
Hi Isa, if he has not still colon cancer you are a saviour to help him avoid chemo or radiotherapy. M;y mother had a real cancer between  colon and rectum, received a good surgery and she  is two year cancer free without any further treatment. I hope you can know and detect also if there are gut polyps to prevent any degeneration.
Best wishes for you and him !
Maria Giovanna
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 11:37am; Reply: 16
Maria Giovanna, it seems that they are only offering chemo & radioth. to him, no op is seen right now; that IS the sign for me that we are still able to convert the whole situation....we did this with an old friend of mine which got those polyps but  one
got into the false direction...so it was treatened with bioresonance therapy and this guy
is without any negative signs since.... if this was ok there, it must be ok here as well...
but sorry two different O's with two different mental health issues... :-/(eek)(angry)
here lays the main problem.... :B but thank you for your kind words  :K)

problems here are merely that this man doesn't want to follow whatsoever... just doing as he was used to; till now he nearly won't take any meats anymore :-/.....
Posted by: Debra+, Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 1:53pm; Reply: 17
Big hugs to you and Hardy Isa.  (((((Big hugs)))))

Debra :)
Posted by: Susana, Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 3:47pm; Reply: 18
Hi Isa,

Sorry to hear you are going through such difficult times. I guess the best way we can show our love is allowing for freedom.

Make sure you do your best to show him the alternative you believe best, present him to the best white coats and let him free. Let him choose which attitude he wants to have and what treatments to follow.

I suppose it is not easy for you as you think so differently from all the white coats so you may go into doubts of your own system but, I would present what you would like to have done on you if you were the sick person.

Take good care and keep your good spirits.

Lots of love and kisses,

:K) :K) :K)
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 4:41pm; Reply: 19
newest version after havin heart the *pro-gnose* from one of those whitecoated :-/

now surgery isn't from the table at all, they do think it's rectum-cancer with liver metastasis.... :-/ :'( >:(......but we will get more knowledge after the biopsy which is just done on him ....I'm afraid that he now is willing to follow all their advices, ok I've to accept his wish....but I felt and saw that he is very very sad and knocked down....
I still hope that ther's something to do for him in a positive way, sorry but the feeling that those  only want to extract money of him doesn't leaves me..... :B :P(mad)(unhappy)

p.s.
I'm giving all your nice comments to him this evening, thanx to all of you in his name :K)
Posted by: Frosty, Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 6:05pm; Reply: 20
It is really to bad that your MD is just to darned stubborn to step outside the box a little.

I come from a family of medical practioners.  My grandfather was a MD, I have one cousin that is a neonatal MD, another cousin that is a ND who graduated from Bastyr (like Dr. D) and then I am married to a DO.  For those of you that don't know what a DO is, it is a Dr. of Osteopathic medicine.

I have found DO's are more open to natural medicine than MD's and this is because of their difference in training.  Allopathic medicine vs. Osteopathec medicine.  Many MD's think that Osteopathic and Naturopathic medicine is hokus pokus and their way is the right way and only way.  It could also be said it is visa versa for DO's and ND's.  There are many that work in harmony with one another and are open to alterantive therapies.  But, unfortunately we still have Doc's MD's, DO's and ND's that are not willing to step outside their box and accept that other remedies may be best for their patient.  It is better today than it was 20 years ago and in time I think we will see the majority working together.  Unfortunately in this case there isn't time.

OK, I will step down off my soap box now and give it a rest... LOL... ;D

I am a newbie and just getting started with the BTD and my husband hasn't read the book yet.  However, he has given me alot of support to this new venture and has enlightened me further about blood types, which has helped me immensly.  Unfortunately he is BT A and his diet is almost opposite of mine.  Once he reads the book, I am sure we will get it all figured out.

Sorry about xbf
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 6:33pm; Reply: 21
Sorry about your ex bf Isa.  Can't change people. Don't even try.  We can only set a good example.
:-/
Posted by: Jane, Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 6:58pm; Reply: 22
Tough thing to have to watch, Isa.  You can only do what he is willing to accept and that is hard.
My thoughts are with you and with him and I wish you only the best in the new year.

My father ignored a polyp and in the end, it was the beginning of the end.  If he'd had it removed early, he wouldn't have had to undergo the surgery that got screwed up and ultimately killed him.  With my ulcerative colitis, I have to have colonoscopies every year now.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, December 30, 2008, 10:48pm; Reply: 23
Frosty,
take it one day at a time!

I as well live with a Dr. and have been able to convince him through my example!
he now is a convert no doubt!

all his patients get a BTD education, and are guided by me, if interested in changing their lifestyle. ;)
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 7:17am; Reply: 24
bravo Lola(clap)(sunny)

so I'll pick up this poor guy today, he can be at home until the 5th and then surgery and the whole trallala.... :P(shy)(worried)

all the best to you
:K)from Switzerland

p.s.
those at hospital told me that tumormarkers aren't that important in bloodresults...isn't that a bit wierd??)  :X(angry)(oh)(dizzy)

then I fetched da mr. up and got all infos as a copy to read.... :'( :'( :'( it's even worse than I thought...now we really do need prayers and your mental and some fine words sustain........thanx in advance.....
truly yours very,very sad Isa

p.p.s.s.
I asked him to begin a treatment with *salvestrol * this evinging.....happy new year!
Posted by: +Aan, Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:07pm; Reply: 25
My little green fruit. I believe that about chemo as well. I have also read many thinks bad about it. I've always thought that I would refuse it as well. Is this what you believe?...Aani
Posted by: Amazone I., Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 9:53pm; Reply: 26
half of mine... :-/ I feel it merely alike that all is done and nothing can be changed coz
of the bad issues called colorectal ca & liver metastasis & lymphe issues...(unhappy)...
and that I would merely appreciate  that we'd go for palliative care instead of *würgeling* somebody down to death :-/... :P....so far so well....:K) thanx that you are there.... :)

little update...... nobody knows what shall be done right now in that hospital coz only today they found the pics needed from the other hospital, done on his ??).... :X great...huh ??).... so they are just demanding themselfs what to do, first the porter cat or first chemo or first op??)...really that's alike..... and I feel (mad)(mad)(mad)(verymad)(goofy)(whistle)

but great success with boswellia ser.. & the other orthomolecular stuffs.... wow salvestrol seems to be the hoot as biological anticancer supplement....thanx Charly
(clap)(geek)(smile).......the oncologue admitted my interaction.... am I blessed or not ??) ...(wiseman)(blush).......
Posted by: Maria Giovanna, Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 10:20pm; Reply: 27
Did I say to you that the oncologist  comes from a good school that keeps  still in honour the therapeutic alliance with the patient and the individual need of the patient ?  My father told that you must use the science and the drugs  with craftmanship for  a bespoke tailored treatment, so that the result could be the best for that individual patient.  :D :K) I think of you Isa !
Posted by: Amazone I., Thursday, January 8, 2009, 7:32am; Reply: 28
Maria Giovanna, thank you so much again :K)
but you know, here in CH-land  it seems really la guerra between MD's and others coz
they don't like to have any co-workers ......;) ....only little white mice are allowed......but here only to serve the hospital and save their income (augment??) )
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