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Posted by: angelighte, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 3:27am
Hi all Gatherers,

I have just found out I'm a Gatherer & I would really like to connect with those who may have similar things happenening right now as I have only just started the Gatherer diet.
Your testimonies, ups and downs - I know there are weekly threads of what everyone is up too but is there one just for Gatherers to chat at the moment?




Posted by: jayneeo, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 3:40am; Reply: 1
wow, huntress, who knew? ;)
welcome to the gatherer clan. I am trying to stay away from the black dots, which I formerly ate rather freely.....
I do love the gatherer diet.........what are the things that are happening now?
Posted by: angelighte, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 3:50am; Reply: 2
jayneeo - I just changed the poll to multiple choice if you want to try again - dont know if you'll be allowed though.
this week I embarked on a spiritual detox called Daniels diet, it was like going through hell and back but a few nights ago I felt the urge to retest myself and I am a Gatherer - I think before I wasn't ready to embrace it all but now I feel so peaceful and happy and have been receiving so many nice compliments.
I was always a Gatherer personality but I was so full of toxins that I wasn't myself. People have always commented on how young I look for my age - usually they say 22 when I am actually 32. Plus I have been craving foods that are diamonds like fenugreek, ricotta, I love pinapple, watermelon and grapefruits and pecans + tomatoes.
Some things I ate often thinking they were great for me were brocolli and chicken so I am happy to avoid them for a while and see how things change. I feel so much healing going on, especially around my forehead/brain area - third eye perhaps? and I just feel clean and clear. I gave up coffee and chocolate this week for detox and it was soooo hard but I feel like all my cravings have gone and Im hardly thinking about food.
I just feel so at peace and ready to reconnect with the world. Instead of anger I feel loving.
how are you?
Posted by: angelighte, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 3:52am; Reply: 3
Gatherers, thanks for voting pleas keep it up and stop by and say hello so I can get to know you and chat sometime.
Posted by: honeybee, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:34am; Reply: 4
Quoted from angelighte
People have always commented on how young I look for my age - usually they say 22 when I am actually 32.


haha me too!


Ricotta, watermelon, tomatoes, pecans, spinach, muchrooms, garlic.. some of my favs too
Posted by: honeybee, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:35am; Reply: 5
Quoted from angelighte
Instead of anger I feel loving.


this is really awesome  ;)
Posted by: angelighte, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:50am; Reply: 6
Honeybee - yes it is so awsome & I love love love eating mushrooms sososo much - I forgot to mention them. I made the most amazing vegetable dish last night with mushrooms.

Posted by: Esmerelda, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 5:09am; Reply: 7
That's funny - here's another Gatherer who (re)discovered mushrooms after starting the GTD... I was in a vegan pub with a veggie friend who kept ordering loads of delicious food, and one of the dishes was these huge juicy mushrooms in crispy batter. Couldn't stop thinking about them for days afterwards - wow!

I think the diet's working extremely well to counter the sugar urges, in many different ways. I have to admit I find it difficult juggling portion sizes and getting a variety of food types in, as I'm just not a very innovative cook. The forum really helps that way though...
Posted by: angelighte, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 6:00am; Reply: 8
I love cooking and Im not a recipe follower & not one to write down everything I put in a recipe either to add onto the website but I will most definately look into it - I would need a hand with it or talk into a tape recorder - I just love trying something new every night and following recipes slows me down.
So what type of things do you most eat - do you have any testimonies of changes since you started and whats the main things?
Posted by: honeybee, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 7:37am; Reply: 9
Quoted from angelighte
I just love trying something new every night and following recipes slows me down.


haha, again, me too  :B   ;) an urgent-creative-outlet that needs to be pursued in-a-hurry

Tonight we are having left over turkey roast with silverbeet, my own cranberry & tumeric chutney, peas and spelt gravy. The chutney also has lemon rind, sage, thyme and parsley from the garden, onion, garlic, ghee and sea salt- damned if I could tell you the exact recipe though lol.
Posted by: MyraBee, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 8:12am; Reply: 10
Quoted from honeybee
my own cranberry & tumeric chutney...The chutney also has lemon rind, sage, thyme and parsley from the garden, onion, garlic, ghee and sea salt- damned if I could tell you the exact recipe though lol.



Maybe you could reconstruct it??  I would Love To have the recipe!


Posted by: angelighte, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 8:50am; Reply: 11
honeybee that does sound really good. I have never made a chutney but I would love to try some time........it sounds like a long process though......
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 11:53am; Reply: 12
Welcome to the 'adjusting gatherers.'
I, too, thought I was a hunter at first.
In the meat & rice area, a gatherer is tougher & many fave veggies are dots, but I can eat tomatoes (& I have added more canned mushrooms!) which are more abundant & so much a part of the American diet.
I put overweight on the survey, but it is not that much. I'm 135-40 at 5'3". I do eat heartily & maybe it's a good thing I can't eat as much ordinary brown rice. I notice if I pig out on basmati rice, I can see the belly growing!
I feel good, but have to work on it.  I think there are some various issues, probably blood sugar. It seems worse now--the muchies are worse when they should get better.....

BTW, the concealed carry on my 'title' means I wish(ed) I were a hunter & hunters often have guns & I wished I could be a hunter. FYI, CC is illegal in Illinois. Wisconsin is the other state, with all the others having some variation of it. I found out that you could keep a shotgun in your house to scare off predators.  So it's the handguns that the politicos want out of our hands. So, now only the crooks have them(& a few non-crooks I'm sure).
Posted by: Ribbit, Thursday, October 23, 2008, 7:51pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from angelighte
I love cooking and Im not a recipe follower & not one to write down everything I put in a recipe either to add onto the website


You sound like me!  I threw together some guava bread for my Explorer daughter and realized later I should have written down a recipe.  It was delicious!
Posted by: angelighte, Friday, October 24, 2008, 1:04am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Ribbit


You sound like me!  I threw together some guava bread for my Explorer daughter and realized later I should have written down a recipe.  It was delicious!


Delicious:)

Posted by: angelighte, Friday, October 24, 2008, 1:11am; Reply: 15
Quoted from Mrs T O+
Welcome to the 'adjusting gatherers.'
I, too, thought I was a hunter at first.


Thank you so much:)

I originally wanted to be a 'Teacher' as that is what I am studying to be plus love coffee and peanut butter cos that is what I gre up with, but I am really glad I found out the truth and not resisting what is. Appreciating and accepting who I am makes a huge difference to everything in my whole life although it's taken me a while to get there.
I just rememembered late last night that I am still a member of the genotype site although I hadn't been on for months  and even though I tried to embrace the Hunter program as much as possible - something wasn't right, but now it all makes sense. Detoxing has been great and I'm going to do it often now to make sure I don't slide back.
I love basmati rice with curries!
Posted by: meribelle, Friday, October 24, 2008, 1:41am; Reply: 16
I first was an O-Nonnie, then a Gatherer, then an O-Nonnie again and now I am a combo, with Gatherer taking precedence if there is conflict.  I find I have a little more variety this way.  I have not given up my prunes, but other than that I am able to follow fairly closely.  I can't say I don't fall off the path occasionally, but all in all I do well.  And I feel very good.  I would not go back to the 'Normal" way of eating if you paid me.  Welcome to the Gatherer family!
Posted by: angelighte, Friday, October 24, 2008, 2:15am; Reply: 17
Thanks Merribelle
I feel at home following the Gatherer plan - I felt at peace as soon as I accepted. I have had no cravings and I've chatted on the genotype website and heard some great stories and advice & I feel better than ever.
Posted by: honeybee, Friday, October 24, 2008, 4:47am; Reply: 18
Quoted from MyraBee


Maybe you could reconstruct it??  I would Love To have the recipe!



Hallo MyraBee  ;)  shall try for you:

I used a small frying pan this week, but last time we used a bigger pan and made twice as much as this keeps in the fridge for up to 6 days, usually that is how long it takes us to eat an entire roasted organic turkey.

saute an onion in ghee
add good teaspoon of turmeric- ground or fresh,
cook until onion is translucent (but bright yellow!)
add to pan:
2 cups of cranberries (we buy them off the shelf in their own juice- add the juice also works with frozen cranberries and add pineapple juice)
fresh thyme sprig (remove later)
fresh sage and parsley finely chopped (to your taste)
fresh lemon rind (I use a ceramic kitchen tool that slices off fine pieces) and a squeeze of the juice and or a splash of white wine or wine vinegar of choice, sometimes all 3..
1-2 garlic cloves also fine; have also used fresh chilli- is good.
sea salt pinch
extra 2 x tspns of oils if you like ie. evoo / macadamia oil
simmer until thick and jam like (20mins - 1/2hr, can do for as long as you like though, just gets jammy)

It seems like allot of mucking about, but its quite simple and as it lasts for many meals; is really good with cold meat and veg too.
Posted by: angelighte, Friday, October 24, 2008, 7:56am; Reply: 19
Thank you so much honeybee:)
It would be wonderful if one day we could have all these amazing being we make, made in bulk and sold from Dr D's store for everyone to try!
Posted by: meribelle, Friday, October 24, 2008, 11:57am; Reply: 20
I thought someone named Huntress was writing on this thread.  Am I loosing my mind?
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Friday, October 24, 2008, 3:56pm; Reply: 21
Hey Gatherers!  I still measure as a hunter, I redid my fingers multiple times, even with a hard ruler.
But, But....I think maybe I am a gatherer....(Crazy girl here).....definitely have problems with gluten, but either plan covers that.  Here's the glitch...I think I may have been a true hunter until I had my thyroid zapped with RAI in the late 90's for a nodule that was making me hyperthyroid.  Now that I have been through that, I really am more hypothyroid, my metabolism is slowed from that and many years of heavy coffee use.  So I wonder if I should just follow the gatherer plan, because it addresses slow metabolism.  That what I am thinking right now.  It's either that, or I just go back to the O btd, which I like so much and stay close to the low glycemic choices.....
Posted by: TJ, Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:16pm; Reply: 22
Ah HA, Huntress is now Puppylove!  ...right?

I've been on the Gatherer diet for less than a month now, and I feel like this is definitely the right move for me.  I start BTD in August 2007, got my secretor status in October, started treating myself for adrenal fatigue in December, and went gluten-free in January 2008 (thinking I was a Nomad and having a lot in common with the Nomad type).  All those steps gave me successive improvements, and I was feeling great!  Then I started working hard on my candida problem in June, and that left me feeling pretty icky, but that was to be expected.

I decided to start on the Nomad diet in July, and I started getting worse.  Basically, it undid the progress I made on the candida, and it brought back my back pain.  I also noticed that my blood sugar wasn't as even.  I quit the Nomad diet toward the end of September and went back to B-nonnie.  Then some of my forum friends talked my into considering the Gatherer diet, which I started in early October.  I am still sleeping a lot, and still adjusting to the changes, but it sure "feels" right to eat like this.  My candida is receding without any special measures, and my blood sugar is more stable.  My mood is still flaky, between the adjustments to the new diet and the adjustments to my new home (STRESS! I had 3 pieces of sugar-sweetened chocolate yesterday :(), but it's getting better.  I guess I'm also an 'adjusting Gatherer'.  The good thing that has come out of the Nomad diet is that my egg intolerance is gone.  Now I can eat some gluten again without any problem (barley and amaranth).

Huntress/Puppylove, I'm glad to see you've found something that's working for you.  I remember you posting that you didn't feel like you fit in here.  You seem to be doing a lot better now!  I resisted the idea that I was a Gatherer, too--I love my fruit, and I've never had a problem with being overweight, and I identified much more strongly with the Nomad traits than with the Gatherer ones!  I am 33 and people often comment that I look like I'm 24 or 25.  I wish I wasn't feeling any anger, but at least, when I do, it doesn't stay around long.

In the survey, I put male, underweight, still having issues, just getting by, intuitive.  Sounds bleak, but it's improving.  I am very strict on the fruits, slightly less so on veggies, and even less on dairy.  I just bought some yogurt which I am going to start enjoying again once I've finished my cottage cheese.  I will also put a little milk or half-and-half in my oatbran/meal.  Of course, I justify the dairy because I'm a B, too!
Posted by: TJ, Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:23pm; Reply: 23
Puppy, I just read your posts on the SWAMI thread, and I wanted to add one more thing.

I noticed for the first week on Gatherer diet that I suddenly felt much better, but after the first week the detox/adjustment started, and I haven't felt as good as I did during the first week.  I guess that's to be expected.
Posted by: jayneeo, Friday, October 24, 2008, 5:34pm; Reply: 24
join the clan, Paula! ;) the food is pretty great! (I think I measured you as a gatherer, didnt I?)
Posted by: 312 (Guest), Saturday, October 25, 2008, 12:15am; Reply: 25
Jayneeo,
Yes you did!  I kept remeasuring myself at home with different things, measuring tape, wooden ruler,
and my rings were the slightest bit longer. When I visited my mom, whom I think I really have a lot of physical things in common, plus our blood types, I measured her as a hunter also.  
But, as I said, maybe I was a hunter all these years, but having my thyroid zapped, plus lots of caffeine/adrenal burnout, my metabolism is not fast any more......so I think I am sort of more a gatherer.  It almost doesn't matter as the diets are quite similar, except for the veggies that protect
against thyroid/goitrogens, etc.  Also the lower fat of the gatherer plan is good, more fish, etc.

I had a hair analysis, and the report said I had lowered thyroid/adrenal output.....the diet recommended was a lot like the gatherer plan....so I have enough evidence I think to follow
between the gtd and btd I think...... :)
Posted by: Curious, Saturday, October 25, 2008, 12:49am; Reply: 26
Quoted from TJ
Now I can eat some gluten again without any problem (barley and amaranth).

Amaranth does not have gluten - or have I got this wrong?

Posted by: 312 (Guest), Saturday, October 25, 2008, 2:23am; Reply: 27
No gluten in amaranth,but I think barley does have some.....
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, October 25, 2008, 4:16am; Reply: 28
Oh, I stand corrected!
Posted by: angelighte, Monday, October 27, 2008, 2:04am; Reply: 29
I love barley and bought some last night - I am going to test...

I am mostly happy that I have not had coffee for about 1.5 weeks - I was never able to give up before and this is the most amazing thing for plus I dont think about chocolate. I actually just feel like eating vegetarian at the moment and bought some butterbeans and canneloni beans, but I have been eating lamb/beef/turkey but just not as much as before. I am eating lots of spinach and celery and nuts/seeds and I've made my own cerial with millet and ricebran with flaked almonds and dried fruits - I am enjoying blacktea/green tea Power Chai that I used to love before but this time with ricemilk.
I kind of completley forget about eating but then when I do think about food I feel really excited.
I need to drink more water though. I nearly got a triple ginseng tea yesterday but wanted to take one step at a time and got the power chai instead for now and will get the other in a few days.
Posted by: Gee Whiz, Monday, October 27, 2008, 6:20pm; Reply: 30
Hi all!

I was Cave Woman.  I left the boards early this year because I was getting so frustrated with my limits on the O nonnie Rh- diet.  It was so hard to follow, I was cranky and had horrid cravings.  I had the Genotype book, but didn't even read it.  I was tired of limits.  So I've eaten as I pleased for many months. It reaffirmed much of what I learned on the BTD, and let me get myself a bit fatter with more aches and swelling.  So I finally picked up the Genotype book and found, very much to my surprise, that I am a Gatherer!  I absolutely love the food list!  I never felt this way about the O nonnie list.

So here I am with a new name and a new enthusiasm.  I look forward to reading the posts of the last months to see what you all have learned and shared in this new twist to our shared adventure.

Cheers to all!
Posted by: jayneeo, Monday, October 27, 2008, 9:24pm; Reply: 31
welcome to the "gathering", Gee Whiz! the food list is yummy, true...should be easier for you.
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:57am; Reply: 32
Welcome back!
Posted by: angelighte, Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 1:00am; Reply: 33
So pleased to meet you Gee Whiz :) & so glad you started over - I really look forward to hearing about how you are going.
Posted by: Gee Whiz, Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 3:10am; Reply: 34
Thank you, Jane, Drive and Puppy.  I look forward to seeing my progress, as well.
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 8:44pm; Reply: 35
Welcome, GW!  I guess if one has trouble keeping the diet, they could avoid the worst things & see how that goes. Sometimes it seems so overwhelming, people give up.
Like if you are an O, give up wheat, corn, & dairy, but enjoy other fruits & veggies.  I am pretty  compliant, but find that 'heavier' foods like starches, proteins, & fats give worse reactions that fruits & veggies.
So, all you folks out there: Don't give up on everything. Try to do the major things if you can't do the whole diet!!
S S & L,
Mrs "T"   O+    
Posted by: Jenny, Friday, October 31, 2008, 8:59pm; Reply: 36
Drive 55,
The world's scrawniest Gatherer!!
On behalf of a newly tested Gatherer, what are the best and quickest weight gain foods within the strict guidelines of GTD?
My friend measures up as a Gatherer, but has been off sugar for decades, and has several intolerance factors, and could never be described as chubby, in fact the opposite. For instance, do you use more permissable oils and fruits for instance? And how many times a week do you use meat protein?
Posted by: Lola, Friday, October 31, 2008, 9:46pm; Reply: 37
it s all in your book......
make her a list. :)
Posted by: jayneeo, Friday, October 31, 2008, 11:28pm; Reply: 38
I suggest she emphasize millet, basmati rice, ghee, almond butter, pecans, rich smoothies, with fruits, nutbutters, farmer's cheese (a diamond), etc.
Posted by: TJ, Saturday, November 1, 2008, 3:17pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from Jenny
On behalf of a newly tested Gatherer, what are the best and quickest weight gain foods within the strict guidelines of GTD?

I couldn't say, I've barely put on any weight. :-/  But Jaynee's advice looks promising.
Posted by: Jenny, Sunday, November 2, 2008, 7:23pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from jayneeo
I suggest she emphasize millet, basmati rice, ghee, almond butter, pecans, rich smoothies, with fruits, nutbutters, farmer's cheese (a diamond), etc.


What exactly is farmer's cheese? Is it like homemade paneer with lemon juice, resulting in a soft curdy paste, or something quite different? Do you buy it or make it yourself?
Posted by: jayneeo, Sunday, November 2, 2008, 8:49pm; Reply: 41
I buy it, but it is like paneer. cottage cheese is also a diamond, but I don't do so well on it...a B might do well on it. I can have it in small doses.
Posted by: 4283 (Guest), Saturday, December 13, 2008, 11:10pm; Reply: 42
Quoted from jayneeo
I buy it, but it is like paneer. cottage cheese is also a diamond, but I don't do so well on it...a B might do well on it. I can have it in small doses.


What happens if you have more than a small dose? I bought some to try cos I was getting sick of having no dairy at all and thought it would be better than indulging in butter... But not sure if its what has caused the slight weight gain or what...
Posted by: jayneeo, Sunday, December 14, 2008, 12:47am; Reply: 43
not weight gain, for me, but gassy stomach....(the cottage cheese....I am fine on farmer's cheese, manchego, a black dot, goat's cheese, a black dot, etc.).
Posted by: 4283 (Guest), Sunday, December 14, 2008, 2:56am; Reply: 44
Quoted from jayneeo
not weight gain, for me, but gassy stomach....(the cottage cheese....I am fine on farmer's cheese, manchego, a black dot, goat's cheese, a black dot, etc.).


Thanks for that  :) I remembered afterward, I didn't gain weight the day after eating cottage cheese; it was the next day...
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, December 14, 2008, 2:59am; Reply: 45
There are two types of farmers cheese that I have found.  One is like paneer, where it's a crumble cheese, not a melting cheese.  Then I've found some (usually from overseas) that melts.  It actually tastes more like muenster.  I prefer it.  I mean, what's the point of cheese if it doesn't stretch when heated? :)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, October 26, 2009, 11:31am; Reply: 46
Is there room for one more?

I've been mostly following the Gatherer food list for about two weeks, slowly easing away from the O nonnie diet, finishing up what was already in my house before making an abrupt change.

I've had exactly two "black dots" in the past week (1/4-1/2 cup of carrots in a bowl of turkey soup, and some coconut oil on homemade challah baked with rice bran). Other than that, I've mostly been eating beneficials and diamonds, with a few neutrals. I haven't been so good about portion sizes though. I'm careful to only have 2-3 servings per day of fruits and grains, and I'm aiming to eat 4-5 cups of veggies a day, but I'm not really keeping tabs on protein foods or oils. I probably eat more of both than Dr. D. recomends. I am trying to have fish more often, but I'll probably always eat more eggs and larger portions of meat/fish/poultry than "recomended."

I'm already feeling trimmer. I'm still dealing with some TOM bloating, so the scale doesn't reflect any changes and my skirts still feel tight, but I can tell that my belly is less flabby and wiggly now. The huge lump of fat in the middle isn't quite as big as it was before. Looking in the mirror, I can't see the differences yet, but I can definitely feel that my belly is firmer (maybe less jiggly is more accurate at this point.) My son says my tummy feels like challah dough. ;)
Posted by: BethD, Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 6:11pm; Reply: 47
Hello all! Another Gatherer here, on my second year. I was first measured as a Hunter, which is how I was eating anyway for btd for 12 yrs. It was okay, nothing exciting.

Then I got to listening to everyone and remeasured my fingers (my dh measured the first time) and then I was a Gatherer. Yippee!! I love Gatherer foods, they really feel right. I dropped 12 lbs without trying. I'm trying for 5 more but those silly black dot foods keep getting in my way. LOL

But then I started comparing my dh, me and my mom, we're all O's but are 3 different types of people, so I thought one of us is an explorer, so I did the explorer diamonds only for three days straight and was so sick. LOL Back to Gatherer I go and I love it. Here's my favorite recipe:
Mix cooked ground beef, canned spinach, red peppers, celery and picante sauce, roll up inside spelt tortilla and deep fry in approved oil, salt the outside. Yum!

Is there a Gatherer website? Would love to know. Thanks!
Posted by: BethD, Tuesday, October 27, 2009, 6:13pm; Reply: 48
Oh, by the way....I look VERY similar to the pic of Angelighte, we could be sisters! In fact, I look more similar to her than I do my own mother and sister. LOL
Posted by: 6982 (Guest), Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 6:17pm; Reply: 49
post a pic BethD~!!   ;D

Angelighte - hubba hubba~!!  FAB photo!!!  Very, "I am WOMAN, hear me ROAR~!!!"   :K) :P ;D
Posted by: jayneeo, Thursday, October 29, 2009, 4:02pm; Reply: 50
Beth...your recipe sounds yummy! Guess I'd do fresh spinach ( steamed) but I remember when I was a kid I loved the canned!
Welcome aboard, and there is a  gatherer thread started by geminisue....for meal idea.
Posted by: EquiPro, Thursday, October 6, 2011, 1:32pm; Reply: 51
I've found several key things for me as a Gatherer, which may or may not help you.

1)  I have to make sure that I eat enough.  Decades of restrictive diets has really messed up my hunger cues and if I eat a big enough breakfast, sometimes I'm not that hungry for lunch.  It's a huge mistake if I don't eat enough lunch, though, because, all of the sudden I'll be starving and that's when I lose control.  I have to eat enough.

2)  I have to have a really large breakfast.  It is my biggest meal of the day.  I usually have all of the foods in there:  meat protein, veggies, legumes, fat, fruit.   The more complete I make my breakfast (and the sooner I get it in, actually - I always wake up STARVING), the more likely I am to have a compliant day.

3)  I have to eat a lot of fat in the form of nuts and beneficial oils.  The first thing that I reach for is protein, and the second is fat.  Consuming a lot of fat is another thing that keeps me compliant, full and in control.

4)  I have to not over-exercise.  I have spent my life working out and my tendency is to get into the thought process of "if I can do a 1-hour HARD kickboxing class and still walk out without feeling like I'm going to collapse, then I should add another 1-hour weightlifting class in after it."  This has really proven to be a very bad thinking process for me, making me over-fatigued, miserably sore from lactic acid buildup and struggling with compliance.  My goal is to work out 4 to 5 days per week, doing a HARD 1-hour class each time.  Cutting back on my workouts so that I'm not overtraining has really helped me a lot.

So, that's what works for me.  I am clearly a Gatherer with the exception of the fact that I am an Amazon, whereas most Gatherers tend to be small.  That might be why I need the extra fat in my diet.  Whatever the reason, I have lost 47 pounds since Feb.1, following my Gatherer SWAMI to approximately 85-90% compliance.
Posted by: PCUK-Positive, Thursday, October 6, 2011, 4:59pm; Reply: 52
Quoted from angelighte
I love barley and bought some last night - I am going to test...

I am mostly happy that I have not had coffee for about 1.5 weeks - I was never able to give up before and this is the most amazing thing for plus I dont think about chocolate. I actually just feel like eating vegetarian at the moment and bought some butterbeans and canneloni beans, but I have been eating lamb/beef/turkey but just not as much as before. I am eating lots of spinach and celery and nuts/seeds and I've made my own cerial with millet and ricebran with flaked almonds and dried fruits - I am enjoying blacktea/green tea Power Chai that I used to love before but this time with ricemilk.
I kind of completley forget about eating but then when I do think about food I feel really excited.
I need to drink more water though. I nearly got a triple ginseng tea yesterday but wanted to take one step at a time and got the power chai instead for now and will get the other in a few days.


I would imagine Black tea is an aviod for You O.
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, October 10, 2011, 7:35pm; Reply: 53
Black tea is beneficial for Gatherers. If angelighte is currently following the diet as outlined in the GTD book (and not SWAMI) then  black tea is fine.
Posted by: EquiPro, Saturday, November 12, 2011, 9:02pm; Reply: 54
Black Tea is a black dot avoid for me, according to SWAMI!
Posted by: yaeli, Sunday, November 13, 2011, 3:21am; Reply: 55
And for me Black Tea is a toxin (no dot) according to SWAMI.
Posted by: Goldie, Monday, November 14, 2011, 3:15pm; Reply: 56
Black tea is avoid.. for me too.  

Peppermint is neutral .. good for some times but not all times.. it's medicine?  
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Thursday, January 17, 2013, 7:12pm; Reply: 57
Neutrals are just food, not medicine. Although, when stuffed up, peppermint tea can help loosen up the sinuses.
Posted by: Goldie, Sunday, January 20, 2013, 4:22pm; Reply: 58
I had rice and black beans for breakfast today.. two very small scoops.  A nice change, and neutral/beneficial. It felt like eating bread-like food between the teeth, yet it will not do damage, so nice.  (And there is enough left overs for 3 days or more - I can think of so many places to add the texture and the relative flavor to thicken or a change of pace.)

My way of becoming compliant all over again.

The other I can seemingly do again, is drink watered down grapefruit juice.  For a while I had overdone it and my stomach had enough, now several month later I am ok again.  Also: nice!

I am planning to take more Magnesium to keep things moving and feel better...  I have to buy some, which type is best for O -? and available every where?  
Posted by: ApplesCarrotsnGrain, Friday, February 1, 2013, 6:39am; Reply: 59
I'm a Gatherer and new to the whole thing. I can def. feel a difference for the good and bad depending on what I eat that is beneficial or avoid. It's interesting that everyone mentions the looking younger thing. I've ALWAYS been told I look younger than I am. It was annoying when I was 13 but I like it now. lol

I'm looking forward to seeing improvements in my health with this new lifestyle change. I've always eaten healthy by "normal" standards, but after having kids my body seemed to go on a rampage against me. Now to make it happy again.

Posted by: Jacquie, Friday, February 1, 2013, 2:48pm; Reply: 60
Not many male Gatherers, huh?
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, February 2, 2013, 6:27am; Reply: 61
my husband is an O gatherer :)
Posted by: ruthiegirl, Monday, February 4, 2013, 2:51pm; Reply: 62
Quoted from Jacquie
Not many male Gatherers, huh?


Not many men on these kinds of message boards, in general. I'm not exactly sure why that is, but women just tend to be chattier, I guess. Every single message board I've been a member of (both parenting and nutrition) seems to have many more women than men who participate- though almost all have had a few men who were valuable members of the community. The only exceptions were the pregnancy and breastfeeding boards- although even there we had a few fathers with questions.
Posted by: Jacquie, Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 12:44pm; Reply: 63
Quoted from ruthiegirl


Not many men on these kinds of message boards, in general. I'm not exactly sure why that is, but women just tend to be chattier, I guess. Every single message board I've been a member of (both parenting and nutrition) seems to have many more women than men who participate- though almost all have had a few men who were valuable members of the community. The only exceptions were the pregnancy and breastfeeding boards- although even there we had a few fathers with questions.


Oh yeah, that makes sense. Not sure why I didn't think of that lol. I always seem to miss the obvious.
Posted by: Jacquie, Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 12:44pm; Reply: 64
Quoted from Lola
my husband is an O gatherer :)


Cool :)
Posted by: jayneeo, Tuesday, February 5, 2013, 3:12pm; Reply: 65
so is mine.... and isn't nutrition a female obsession? with the addition of some enlightened males? 8)
Posted by: Taxman, Thursday, May 30, 2013, 2:41am; Reply: 66
I'm a male Gatherer.  

;DAny more Gatherers out there?  
Posted by: geminisue, Thursday, May 30, 2013, 1:39pm; Reply: 67
Goldie, I have a lemon squeezed in hot water when I get up, than about 30 minutes later, a pear and a banana.  I empty out soon after that, then have my egg and cup of tea.  Do you use saffron.  I tried it recently and I liked it, but it was almost $10. for like .5, I would estimate 1/2 teaspoon of it.  I need to find it less expensive. I thought the jar was almost full, here it was in a black thin bag that was fitted into the jar,all along with glass, so with my bad eyes, I thought it was full.

Anyone else know where to get saffron at a reasonable price?  Thanks!
Posted by: Goldie, Wednesday, June 12, 2013, 7:56am; Reply: 68
geminisue... good to see you here again... missed you.

Have you followed my olive oil escapades to prevent cravings?  Just wondering..

Two pieces of fruit, astounding... and in the morning.  I wonder if the lemon is enough to burn the 'sugar spike'? I wonder is lemon a fruit?  

The only fruit I can afford is pineapple or papaya or mango .. I think all others create cravings for more..  
Posted by: jb, Saturday, June 7, 2014, 10:01am; Reply: 69
Hi All.
This is my first post. I havebeen following loosely ERBT for past 2 years but since i introduced Gluten free products and spelt, i have piled on the pounds, low lying depression and moods swings......
So i did my Geno test and found i was a Gatherer! It has only been a week but i am doing so much better and feel clarity coming back to me.
:) Even in a week the pounds are shedding. I am so glad to be on this forum for support and advise. I have loads of questions but i will leave them for later
I just wanted to introduce myself to you all as An irish Lady back on the track again
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