Print Topic - Archive

BTD Forums  /  Live Right 4 Your Type  /  Non-Secretor Sensitivity
Posted by: Tom1964, Saturday, June 28, 2008, 12:44pm
What is it about non-secretors that gives us the "Princess and the Pea" effect that what others may not notice, we notice.  Where does that difference in sensitivity come from generally or specifically and what creates the perception of it to us?
Posted by: azredhead57, Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:22pm; Reply: 1
LOL...Im not sure if what your referring to is the literal reference ot the fairy tale or something to do with eating.  It made me laugh because all of my life I have been like that and I dont know my secretor status yet.  I cant sleep on rough or wrinkled sheets.  I notice every little flaw in EVERYTHING.  Every piece of lint on the carpet or drip on the tile.  And of course every flaw in myself.  As Ive gotten older Ive gotten slightly better and try to remind myself what my mother would say...."No one will notice on a galloping horse"...whatever that means  ;D
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, June 28, 2008, 9:23pm; Reply: 2
check out the nonnie thread...... :)

Quoted Text
"No one will notice on a galloping horse"...whatever that means


think it means people are to concerned with their own hectic life to notice.....
Posted by: Tom1964, Saturday, June 28, 2008, 11:20pm; Reply: 3
What specific thread in the Nonnie area?
Posted by: 521 (Guest), Sunday, June 29, 2008, 7:46am; Reply: 4
Tom,

I think it has to do with the fact that our systems run best on a very lean energy mixture of fats and carbs.  Too much of that stuff and it just overloads our physiologies too easily, and we get agitated and edgy.

Beyond this, our immune systems don't have the means to fight pathogens pre-emptively, by means of secreted BT antigens, so our systems actually have to deploy immune cells themselves to fight in a much more hand-to-hand combat sort of way.

I think all these things together make up very vigilant and edgy by nature.
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, June 29, 2008, 2:16pm; Reply: 5
I finally looked up "Princess and the Pea".  That's about right!  Like Ron said, nonnies have to walk a thin line to stay balanced and healthy...I sure do.  I suspect that the non-secretor trait is a harmful mutation.  The only good things I seem to get out of it are that I can eat tomatoes and my blood clots faster. ::)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, June 29, 2008, 6:04pm; Reply: 6
half of mine B nonnie...drive 55  it seems that you aren't still aware about your mental powers...therefore you feel  :P when somebody is too near and (shrug)(dead)(dizzy)when somebody is touching you, dearle this isn't meant to offend,in contrary, I understand your feelings completely... babe...try an experience
without any judging intentions...nor behaviouristic... :X ??).. ;) ;D :K)(whistle) and see and remark what might happen....
fear about our feelings....

the next few days....weeks...months.... let you touch by everybody who seems to be in need in contact with ya....did ya got me well ??)...the thingy byond is: who seems to be in need of.... when you might realize and step into that experience of
f= feelings which is the component we are in need of...intj'p's..... NT's appear as cold lurking guys...but by the hell thweety we are not.....!!!
mostly..... ;D ;D ;D  after this experience...tell me if I was right or wrong...... ;) now I'm sure that *touch for health *
is your reply on all not asked questions ... ;)  btw this was the insight of another AB female...which is located...(dizzy)
faaaar away from Switzerland.... ;) hugs and muahs from Isa(hehe)(huh)(huh)(cool)(funny)


ps. btw I'd be more than proud of you, if I would have been mum
of such a rich personality that you show up !!!!  :o :B ;D :K)
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, June 29, 2008, 7:12pm; Reply: 7
btw...to hit the thread & point...(clown)...thweeties...we aren't that weird....just only a bit  ;)


(evil)(evil)(evil)


be honest...did YOU ever detected that monster of pea really  :X ??) ;D ;D....not me...it was merely the helve ....(pick_nose)(pick_nose)(grin)(grin)(yawn)
Posted by: TJ, Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:56pm; Reply: 8
Are you referring back to my post on the thread about blood type and touch?
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, June 29, 2008, 10:21pm; Reply: 9
yeppers .... ;D
Posted by: GillianR, Monday, June 30, 2008, 12:35am; Reply: 10
Quoted from azredhead57
my mother would say...."No one will notice on a galloping horse"...whatever that means  ;D


My first take on this was, "I'll bet that's what Lady Godiva thought!" ;D ;D

Actually, your Mom sounds very wise. I like the saying and plan to use it somewhere in the near future. :)

Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, June 30, 2008, 3:08pm; Reply: 11
Quoted from Tom1964
What is it about non-secretors that gives us the "Princess and the Pea" effect that what others may not notice, we notice.  Where does that difference in sensitivity come from generally or specifically and what creates the perception of it to us?

I don't know, but it is real, duuuuuuuuuuuuude.  So real!

My theory is that because we don't have "guards at the gate" (we don't secrete our blood type antigen[s] into our bodily fluids like secretors do), we have heightened sensitivities, much like a blind person might have heightened hearing.  We become exquisitely sensitive in other ways to compensate for the fact that we don't have any antigens swimmin' around to fight the good fight, so to speak.

Anyway, that probably made no sense, but all I know is:  if there is a pea under a hundred mattresses, I am going to NOTICE IT.

:)

Posted by: Linda, Monday, June 30, 2008, 6:26pm; Reply: 12
Exactly.  My parents always complained I was the Princess in The Princess and the Pea.  I think my most uttered phrase was "That bothers me!"
Posted by: roller56, Monday, June 30, 2008, 6:31pm; Reply: 13

I have had that syndrone all of my life.  I cannot sleep on anything wrinkled.  When I was in my early 20's I developed Graves disease and my senstitivites intensified.  I also found out recently that O's are prone to thyroid disease.

roller56
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, June 30, 2008, 6:39pm; Reply: 14
Another Highly Sensitive Person (nonnie) here.  When I get overwhelmed with noise (especially), I'm like "Don't touch me.  Go away."  I have to fight it even with my children.  If they're extra clingy and fussy, it's all I can do to not swat them away and then run away myself.  Too much stimulation makes me way over-sensitive.
Posted by: Peppermint Twist, Monday, June 30, 2008, 7:19pm; Reply: 15
Yes, sensitivity to noise is a big nonnie thing.  I am contending with a neighbor (been contending with this guy for ten years now--that'd be a DECADE, for anyone who is keeping count...oh, the horror) who is totally oblivious to boundaries.  The latest thing is, he has bought his son some sort of ATV/go-cart thing.  It is basically a CAR, which his NINE-YEAR-OLD son drives at full speed (about 45 mph) all around the rear alleys (guess who parks in a rear garage, off the alley?  yeah, ME), crosses the street, and goes all over this PRIVATE grass lot that is for sale.  It is totally illegal and very upsetting on many levels (such as that this thing is tearing up the grass on my rear alley easement, between the back of my little bitty, 3-foot wire fence and the unpaved alley), but one of the many levels is the NOISE this thing emits.  Boy howdy.  I'm in my house, windows shut, a/c on, TV on, and STILL this thing gets to me.

But that's an obvious one.  I'm sensitive to any little noise whatsoever.  My mom often comments on this.  I'll be like "Okay, what IS that?", and she'll say "What's what?".  "That NOISE?!!!!!!!!  You don't hear that?!!!!!!  Nope, she never even knows what I'm talking about.  And if I point it out to her and describe it, she will say, oooh, well, I didn't notice it.

Didn't notice it?!!!!!!!!!!

I must have gotten the nonnie gene from Dad.
Posted by: azredhead57, Monday, June 30, 2008, 7:22pm; Reply: 16
Gillian, she is very wise and I have started saying it myself when thinks arent as perfect as I would like.

This thread has made me smile to know that I am not the only 'princess' in this world full of peas ;)
Posted by: TJ, Monday, June 30, 2008, 11:55pm; Reply: 17
Noise is a big deal for me, and was an even bigger deal before starting BTD.

On July 4 last year I traveled to Jamestown, VA with friends, who blaired this awful techno and pop "music" all the way there, singing along with it too.  I just put up with it, but man, I was so happy to get out when we arrived.  The time there was fun, but I was ready to go before the fireworks started, and that noise got to me.  On the way back, it was more of the same as the trip there, only I was very tired, and I was on the verge of tears :'( (even wearing some earplugs I miraculously had stashed in my backpack) when I finally asked them to kill the music.

I doesn't bother me as much now, but if I am tired or overstimulated, it shows up again.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 12:58am; Reply: 18
Yes.  After a bad night's sleep my tolerance level of noise is 0.  My brother used to have this car --it was a purple '72 Dodge Dart (my dad had one too but it was green) --he did the muffler all weird and it was loud.  It didn't bother me until the mph was about 45-50, then the rpm got to be such that maybe it resonated with my brain or something, but if he drove a certain mph I'd have to clench my teeth and cover my ears to keep my head from rattling.  Didn't bother anybody else in the car.  Maybe that was the same frequency as my thoughts. :D
Posted by: RedLilac, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:08am; Reply: 19
Quoted from TJ
I finally looked up "Princess and the Pea".  That's about right!  Like Ron said, nonnies have to walk a thin line to stay balanced and healthy...I sure do.  I suspect that the non-secretor trait is a harmful mutation.  The only good things I seem to get out of it are that I can eat tomatoes and my blood clots faster. ::)


I thought non-secretors came 1st and secretors mutated to combat virus which evolved later.  Don’t we clot faster so if our ancestors were injured they could run out of harm?  I think we’re sensitive because our Nonie genes sensitivities are heightened to recognize something different.  This is just my wild opinion.
Posted by: TJ, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 1:31am; Reply: 20
Quoted from RedLilac
I thought non-secretors came 1st and secretors mutated to combat virus which evolved later.  Don’t we clot faster so if our ancestors were injured they could run out of harm?  I think we’re sensitive because our Nonie genes sensitivities are heightened to recognize something different.  This is just my wild opinion.


Could be, that was just my personal insight, with no science behind it.
Posted by: Rebecca_C, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 3:24am; Reply: 21
I'm with you guys.  Noise that's too loud really grates, people standing too close or my personal bug-bear - clothing that's too something.  My husband almost despairs when I need new clothes because it's a constant issue that a) I don't like trying things on and b)I'm really specific about fabrics.  I can't handle anything scratchy or too clingy.  Generally I'm good with cotton or cotton blends, but processed fabrics aren't as good.  Sheets and towels can be problematic as well.

It does have its good points though, I can notice a dip in a floor at 20 paces (helpful when looking at houses), can smell a gas leak a mile off and can hear an ambulance at roughly the same time as our Malamutes (which is useful if they start howling).
Posted by: Eric, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 6:21am; Reply: 22
hahah this is all so true.  Thank goodness though, I've transitioned from night to day with the BTD/GTD and things don't bother me like they used to.  I used to get irritated at everything, and think the world just had problems.   I'm sooooo much more chill now.  It's great.  :)
Posted by: Amazone I., Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 9:12am; Reply: 23
;D ;D ;D wow that sounds great, Eric....congrats....(clap)(dance)(clap)(sunny)
Posted by: azredhead57, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 6:26pm; Reply: 24
Do any of you have the same sensitivities to smells and odors?  I have been driving my family crazy for years about being able to smell any and every little thing.  When I was just a toddler my parents had already noticed that I could smell anything from a mile away.  Sometimes its overwhelming.  I have to practically run past the soaps aisle at the store.  If I have to go down it I try to know what I need before venturing in.  Being around any kind of smoke makes my nose plug up.  The same with stores that have hot foods and smell like old grease, I won't shop there.  I can smell if a table has been wiped down with a not so clean cloth.  It's really a curse.  My family are all smokers and if we get together I am the PIA that can't stand the smoke.  I have to go home and shower and wash my clothes.  God forbid anyone wearing too much cologne sit near me at a movie or event, I just might have to leave.  Febreeze has become my best friend.  I even keep one in my car.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 7:17pm; Reply: 25
We have a gas leak in our living room, not 10 feet from where I'm sitting.  It comes through the a.c. vent.  Not all the time, but an occasional wiff, which is frustrating when I'm trying to prove to anybody else that it exists.  My DH can't smell it.  It took me two years of begging him to call the gas company  before he finally agreed to.  Before he could even do it, though, I saw the meter reader and ran outside and snatched him.  "We have a leak!" I nearly shouted.  "I can smell it coming through our bedroom window!"  Sure enough, it was a sizable one, outside.  Thankfully we weren't being charged for it--it was on the other side of the pipe from the meter.  However, I still smell the one in the living room.  It's right above the water heater downstairs.  So DH called somebody to come out and test, but he couldn't' find a leak.  I still smell it once a week or so, but after repeated tests, there's no sign of a leak.  I wonder if I smell it when the heater for the tank kicks on downstairs.  At any rate.....all that to say I smell stuff that other people can't.  Sometimes it's torture being a nonnie.  People think I'm making stuff up.  At least my DH can smell the mildew downstairs.  It's one reason we've told the landlord we're not buying the house!  (The landlord can't smell it of course!)
Posted by: TJ, Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 1:15am; Reply: 26
Quoted from azredhead57
I have to practically run past the soaps aisle at the store.


Yeah, sometimes I have to hold my breath there!  Like Eric said, I'm not as sensitive now.  Of course, my sense of smell isn't the trouble, mine is a bit below normal for most stuff.
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 2:16am; Reply: 27
Certain noises really bother me, but I also like to have background noise. I like the radio on when I sleep & talk programs put me to sleep better than music. Maybe I like 'company' so I can relax & sleep. (Good thing my DH also likes the newsradio program at night, & he also doesn't mind if I listen to most night talk shows.)
I hate leaf blowers. I think they are about themost useless items ever invented. Why make all that noise when you can rake the leaves. It's like having a jackhammer or chain saw to cut a piece of pie! Motors idling are also a no-no for me & that is quite common oten times in a big city.
Yeah, I'm very auditory/verbal & the reaction to noise, both positive & negative is part of that for me.
Mrs "T"    O+
Posted by: roller56, Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 6:12pm; Reply: 28


I hae alsways been very sensitive to odors that know one else smells.

roller56
Posted by: 521 (Guest), Saturday, July 5, 2008, 2:17am; Reply: 29
When I was a wee bairn, my parents couldn't just walk up to my crib and talk to me, or I'd be taken by surprised and freak out.  They actually figured out that they had to make some kind of noise before approaching me, so I wouldn't be startled.

I pity any couple trying to raise a nonnie child... It's such stress and high maintenance.
Posted by: shells, Saturday, July 5, 2008, 5:35am; Reply: 30
Oh yes I can relate to this thread so well!  I believe our nonnieness is integrated into our whole being even visually.  As a child I would find all these foreign things in my food and line them up on the edges of my plate....hard bits, discoloured bits, sinewy bits, large pepper bits, etc. etc. much to my mother's exasperation.  Continually scratching my arms from the woolen jumpers that she had knitted!  She labeled me neurotic   ??)

Yes, it was hard being a nonnie child but can be quite handy being a nonnie adult.  I'm the "food going off finder" with my sense of smell or the dirty sox in the boys bedroom finder etc.  ;D   :X

You can tell I'm a nonnie by the eye shades and ear plugs on my bedside table !   ::)
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, July 6, 2008, 8:31pm; Reply: 31
What's worse is a nonnie mommy with nonnie children!  I'm sitting here cringing, with my hands clapped over my ears because I can't handle the noise!  Not a good mix.  But here I find myself, having to block it out and continue on my merry way.  They're super-sensitive but in different ways.  My A son can't deal with the baby crying.  He'll run out of the room hollering, "No, Julia!  Don't cry!  It hurts my ears!"  My AB daughter weeps and wails and gnashes her teeth because of the tags in the back of her shirts.  And the seams on her socks.  And turtlenecks!  She won't wear turtlenecks!
Posted by: Amazone I., Sunday, July 6, 2008, 8:52pm; Reply: 32
thweeties why are you all blaming our nonnieness ??) :-/ :o...I'm nearly sure now that both of my *real* parents were nonnies...but I grow up in a houshold of .....both... :X ??) and since I'm on BTD I conquered my
*bien-etre*   (dizzy)(smarty)(dance)(whistle)

all my dear friends..nonnies or sechis... just feel good with what you
were born and feel blessed with all your gifts and capabilities...

you all comit always the same error...you are identifying to your specifique situations...hey stop that and get some rest in your middle...I repeat...no-body is and no-body has....stay aware of your
breath and work on your negative feelings uprising in such situation in just becoming completely empty.....here lays the key  ;) :D :K) :K)
hugs to my fellows (sunny)



p.s...
I hear toooo much of I.....I......I......
this I am...I have I call it the I-concept coz the I never can stand alone...... :P ;D ;D ;D ;D
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, July 6, 2008, 9:11pm; Reply: 33
Quoted from Amazone I.
get some rest in your middle


Okay.  I like that, Isa.  I'll try to get more rest in my middle. ;D
Posted by: TJ, Monday, July 7, 2008, 1:01am; Reply: 34
Grrr, tags and seams, who in their right mind EVER thought it was a good idea to put a thick, scratchy SEAM on the inside of the garment right next to your skin, when it could easily be on the outside???  at least, for underwear...  Those seams in the ends of the (tube) sock were the absolute worst for me.  When I was a kid, I had to have them lined up perfectly across my toes.  My brothers didn't care, and thought I was weird.  Now that I'm all grown up, I buy fitted socks.  They still have a seam, but its place is more tolerable on my tender tootsie.
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, July 7, 2008, 1:56am; Reply: 35
Quoted from TJ
Grrr, tags and seams, who in their right mind EVER thought it was a good idea to put a thick, scratchy SEAM on the inside of the garment right next to your skin, when it could easily be on the outside???  at least, for underwear...  


*[Whisper]* Don't tell anybody, but my DH wears his underwear inside out for that very reason.
Posted by: shells, Monday, July 7, 2008, 8:30am; Reply: 36
Quoted from Amazone I.
thweeties why are you all blaming our nonnieness
all my dear friends..nonnies or sechis... just feel good with what you
were born and feel blessed with all your gifts and capabilities...



Isa, please don't think that we're whinging and whining!   :o  We are actually laughing at ourselves   :D   ;D

It is sometimes hard to see in which temperament something is being said.   ::)

Having said all that I fully agree that facing our negativities and fears changes our core so much for the better!  :D

Posted by: Amazone I., Monday, July 7, 2008, 10:46am; Reply: 37
so I took it ;) dearest shells  ;D :D ;)
and I know that we are that (dizzy)(bunny)(evil)(grin)was this morning in the hospital for my right paw....coz it got thick and
very achy when I try to do my lessons  :o :-/ :B and always this lady says to me that can't be that it hurts that much and squeezes my poor paw even more  :'( >:( :'( :X...... :P
then she took off the skin of the cicatrice...hey babe that hurts how you were doing that....she didn't even is aware about that----aaaarrgh how we are to be blamed as poor thingies...huh ??) :X ;D but tomorrow have to see the doc again coz my trainer said that this is just not normal... :o :B :o ooooh that reminds
me that Peter always said, AB's and tissueprobs. can be seen as always local .....fffttt....(constipated)(scared)(what)(mad)
how can I explain to her what does mean to be a nonnie ??)(blush)(blush)(hugegrin).....and yessss I nearly can't relax..... my  bigger issue and then can't let go...must always do all on my own..... :-/ :P(shy)(dead)(mad)(tongue)(eek)

@ Ribbitle...try and try over and over again my dear...you will be more than amazed about the results!!!(smarty)(clap)(dance)(sunny)
Print page generated: Thursday, October 30, 2014, 2:12pm