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Posted by: Arlene, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 2:32am
Hi Everyone,

I guess I am still in shock that I am a non secretor because I just went through the old archives to read the old posts on green eyes being equated with secretor status. Here is one of my old posts from 2001
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Dr D says Green eyes -likely secretor
Posted By: Arlene (AB+)
Date: Monday, 26 February 2001, at 10:15 p.m.

In Response To: A+ non-secretors, asthma, tooth decay (Brian Sandle (A+))

Hi Brian,
If you search the archives, on October 17, 2000, Dr D. posted 2 messages that green eyed persons are likely secretors. He cites his sources for this conclusion.


If you type in green eyes and secretors there are many posts that will appear. I did not find Dr D's post though. I would have loved to reread it. I have had green eyes all my life and I just assumed I was a secretor.

I just cant believe that it took me 8+ years to get my secretor status. I wish I had done it sooner, it is better to know than to guess. It really anwers a lot of questions about my health status.

Are there any other green eyed non secretors out there?
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Sunday, May 4, 2008, 3:53am; Reply: 1
Quoted from Arlene
Hi Everyone,

I guess I am still in shock that I am a non secretor because I just went through the old archives to read the old posts on green eyes being equated with secretor status. Here is one of my old posts from 2001


If you type in green eyes and secretors there are many posts that will appear. I did not find Dr D's post though. I would have loved to reread it. I have had green eyes all my life and I just assumed I was a secretor.

I just cant believe that it took me 8+ years to get my secretor status. I wish I had done it sooner, it is better to know than to guess. It really anwers a lot of questions about my health status.

Are there any other green eyed non secretors out there?


I can't believe I waited eight years to have my test done, either! There were some things that made me believe I was a secretor, but not so! I just recently found out that I am a nonnie. And, like you, it does answer a lot of questions - and I can't say I'm particularly happy with the answers. Especially when the GTD barely mentions non-secretors, and Dr. D. paints such a grim picture for the likes of us.  :-/ Good grief, doesn't he know we need a lot of hand-holding??!!
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Sunday, May 4, 2008, 3:59am; Reply: 2
http://www.dadamo.com/forum/archivea/config.pl?read=68701

Arlene, I think you will find the post down a ways on this page.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 4:38am; Reply: 3
green eyes and nonnie as well! ;)
Posted by: Rebecca_C, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 5:22am; Reply: 4
Another Green eyed nonnie reporting.  
Posted by: Mickey, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 7:49am; Reply: 5
Another green eyed nonnie here too!.  When i was younger my eyes would fluctuate between blue and green.  But now that are permanently green.

;)
Posted by: RedLilac, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 4:06pm; Reply: 6
Another green-eyed nonnie named Arlene reporting in.
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Sunday, May 4, 2008, 6:44pm; Reply: 7
Oh, I forgot to say that my eyes are blue. There are so many things I don't fit that Dr. D. has said  :-/ that I'm especially looking forward to further testing when it is available. Actually, I don't think it will change the diet to any great extent for me, but hopefully it will clear up a lot more things.
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 6:46pm; Reply: 8
I'm a green-eyed nonnie!  :-)

I also waited a few years, but I'm so glad I got that secretor test.  It changed a lot of things in my diet, as well as helping me understand in no uncertain terms, how crucial it is for me to eat for my type.

When I thought I was a secretor, I was a lot more lax, but non-secretors do not have that lee-way if we want to maintain good health.  It has made all the difference.

I congratulate you, Arlene, for taking this important step!  (clap)
Posted by: 2443 (Guest), Sunday, May 4, 2008, 6:59pm; Reply: 9
Yes count me in...another green eyed nonnie.... Karen
Posted by: JJR, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 7:19pm; Reply: 10
Wow, that's weird.
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Sunday, May 4, 2008, 8:09pm; Reply: 11
Victoria:
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When I thought I was a secretor, I was a lot more lax, but non-secretors do not have that lee-way if we want to maintain good health.  It has made all the difference.


I certainly agree with the need for non-secretors not be be lax about our diets. Even though I was on the A-type diet for years, there were some things that were doing serious damage to my health - especially corn and corn products, even in small amounts, and uncultured dairy - which was so-called yogurt. I am much, much better now but I realize that I have a ways to go before I am truly healed. I never knew before how wonderful good health really feels. Someone offered me a Snickers candy bar a few days ago and it no more tempted me than grabbing a snake! They were amazed at my total lack of interest! Ah, but if they only knew how I prize this wonderful new feeling!!!
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 8:32pm; Reply: 12
shows great character and commitment! bravo!
Posted by: JJR, Sunday, May 4, 2008, 11:26pm; Reply: 13
I'd probably go into convulsions if I had a snickers bar.  hehehehehe.  That's what keeps me away.  Although I have to admit.  I eat 1/4 of Paul Newman's chocolate bars some days after dinner.  Mmmmmmmmm..  Chocolate.  But that amount is pretty tame to a snickers bar.  Yuck!!!
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Monday, May 5, 2008, 1:24am; Reply: 14
I can't remember the last time I ate a whole candy bar. Maybe in high school.
Posted by: angelighte, Monday, May 5, 2008, 6:35am; Reply: 15
I have greeny-blue eyes but not sure about what secretor I am - when I was reading the celiac information in the archives it said celiacs are usually non-secretors so I might be.
Posted by: angelighte, Monday, May 5, 2008, 6:41am; Reply: 16
Ok - I dont know anything about this secretor stuff so I will have to have a read but can anyone debrief it for me - as Im not sure entirely where to look. whats the difference between them and are there any Hunters out there?
Posted by: lstreat, Monday, May 5, 2008, 1:04pm; Reply: 17
Another green eyed nonnie reporting in. Eye color changes between green and blue.  ;)

Laura
Posted by: Lola, Monday, May 5, 2008, 3:16pm; Reply: 18
http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/newbie/a.htm
secretor vs. non-secretor information:
-http://www.dadamo.com/knowbase/subtype/sec9.htm
Blood Type O Basics: Click Here
http://www.4yourtype.com/TypeO_basic.asp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-VPbbu2pmU
Posted by: RedLilac, Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 1:09am; Reply: 19
Us nonnies can spit and the cops wonít be able to figure out our blood type.

Also when those nasty bugs get into a secretorís openings, they might be able to battle them before they enter the temple.  But us nonnies let them come in and then attack them with a vengeance!

Also if you get attacked with a knife, youíll clot up faster and wonít lose as much blood as a secretor will.

Thatís all for Nonnie 101.  Follow Lolaís posts for a more sophisticated scientific explanation.
Posted by: Heidi, Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 3:18am; Reply: 20
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If you type in green eyes and secretors there are many posts that will appear. I did not find Dr D's post though. I would have loved to reread it. I have had green eyes all my life and I just assumed I was a secretor.

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I assumed I was a secretor because I have flawless teeth. Nonnies are supposed to have a lot of tooth/gum issues so I thought that chances were good that I couldn't be a non-secretor. I was wrong  ;D I have come to the conclusion that the only way to know for sure is to have the test done.

Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Tuesday, May 6, 2008, 4:10am; Reply: 21
Do you have green eyes?
Posted By: Peter D'Adamo
Date: Tuesday, 17 October 2000, at 5:56 p.m.

Then you are almost certainly an ABH secretor!

Strong evidence exists for linkage of "green eye color" to the Secretor system, suggesting that indivduals with green eyes are much more likely to be secretors of ABH substances.

Eiberg H, Mohr J. Major genes of eye color and hair color linked to LU and SE. Clin Genet 1987 Mar;31(3):186-91
Posted by: HarmonyKitty, Wednesday, May 7, 2008, 4:00pm; Reply: 22
Count me in as another green-eyed nonnie.
Posted by: Arlene, Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 7:52pm; Reply: 23
Thank you to all the green-eyed Nonnies who responded. In my gut I thought there might be a quite a few us of out there. In 2004 I visited a Naturopathic Dr who practiced Iridology. She only believed there were blue eyes or brown eyes. She told me that my green eyes were actually blue eyes that had changed to green from my unhealthy colon. I actually argued with her that my dad and sister both had green eyes and she answered back they both had unhealthy colons. I really didnt let her opinion soak in about the green eyes, but I did purchase a colon cleanse herbs from her.

Could she have been right about green eyes? Might green eyes be a sign of low alkaline phosphatase in an unhealthy colon? Back in 2004 it was at 45 and currently on my last blood test it dropped even further to 35. I am as non secretor as you can get!

Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Tuesday, May 13, 2008, 8:51pm; Reply: 24
Quoted from Arlene
Thank you to all the green-eyed Nonnies who responded. In my gut I thought there might be a quite a few us of out there. In 2004 I visited a Naturopathic Dr who practiced Iridology. She only believed there were blue eyes or brown eyes. She told me that my green eyes were actually blue eyes that had changed to green from my unhealthy colon. I actually argued with her that my dad and sister both had green eyes and she answered back they both had unhealthy colons. I really didnt let her opinion soak in about the green eyes, but I did purchase a colon cleanse herbs from her.

Could she have been right about green eyes? Might green eyes be a sign of low alkaline phosphatase in an unhealthy colon? Back in 2004 it was at 45 and currently on my last blood test it dropped even further to 35. I am as non secretor as you can get!



The alkaline phosphatase on a lab report is the total level found in the body these sources include liver,bones and blood, only a very small fraction of this is actually IAP. A special test for IAP must be done in order to determine what percent of the total is IAP.

Children and adolescents have values that may be two to three times higher than an adult because growing bones and skeletal tissue produces lots of alkaline phosphatase.

Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 3:59am; Reply: 25
I ve been following BTD now GTD for over 12 years now, and my eyes are still different shades of green......my gut is fine and I hope they stay that color for as long as I live! ;)
my bros and sis are all not all together healthy, and they all have brown eyes! ;D
don t believe your ND s theory is all that accurate!
Posted by: 2985 (Guest), Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 3:44pm; Reply: 26
My eyes are Hazel. Does that count as green?
Posted by: Captain_Janeway, Wednesday, May 14, 2008, 9:50pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from 2985
My eyes are Hazel. Does that count as green?


According to what I have read about eye color it is a polygenic trait. Meaning there is an interaction of different genes that produce eye color. This may be the reason why you see different shades of blue and brown eyes. Green eyes supposedly result from a type of melanin that produces more of a yellowish hue and hence various shades of hazel eyes.

Mine are hazel with lots of coppery shades around the pupil that at times they sometimes appear light brown and other times more of a deep green.

Like, Lola I too seem to have a fairly healthy gut. :)
Posted by: Arlene, Saturday, May 17, 2008, 2:08am; Reply: 28
Thank you Captain_ JaneWay
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The alkaline phosphatase on a lab report is the total level found in the body these sources include liver,bones and blood, only a very small fraction of this is actually IAP. A special test for IAP must be done in order to determine what percent of the total is IAP.

Children and adolescents have values that may be two to three times higher than an adult because growing bones and skeletal tissue produces lots of alkaline phosphatase
.

I am so impressed by all the posters on this website. I love learning all these things. We are all trying to help each other. I also love the name your using. I wish I had more imagination and came up with something that good!


Posted by: OSuzanna, Saturday, May 17, 2008, 3:09am; Reply: 29
Blue-eyed nonnie here...
Occasionally someone will say my eyes are green, but they're usually in the blue-to-gray range. I think. And bloodshot when I spend too much time at the computer!!! ;) 8)
Posted by: Squirrel, Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 4:44am; Reply: 30
My eyes are a sort of light bluey-greeny-grey. If I wear green or brown people says they're blue. If I wear purple or blue/grey people say they're green. Red, orange and yellow make them look grey. (Black and white make me look just ill!)

But if anyone asks about my colouring, I'll tell them blue eyes, brown hair.
Posted by: Crimson, Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:35pm; Reply: 31
I've not been here in a while. But I thought I'd note that my eyes are also green.
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