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Posted by: 1323 (Guest), Sunday, April 13, 2008, 4:51pm
I've been taking this Amla C to supplement the regular supp's and was wondering before I reorder this if this is the best source of C for Hunters or everyone in general?

Thanks!

http://www.herbalprovider.com/amla.html?src=ggl&w=amla&gclid=CNuDxZK_2JICFRImawodj1dk-g

This is the company I've ordered from in the past and have been very pleased with their supps'
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 5:22pm; Reply: 1
for C I simply take rosehips......no binders or additives, and haven t had a cold for as long as I can remember!
also I attribute my high immune system to all the veggies I add on a daily basis, following my GT2 guidelines! :)
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 5:34pm; Reply: 2
Quoted from Lola
for C I simply take rosehips......no binders or additives, and haven t had a cold for as long as I can remember!
also I attribute my high immune system to all the veggies I add on a daily basis, following my GT2 guidelines! :)


Lola...where did you find plain rosehips?
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 5:42pm; Reply: 3
ahhh, my brother who lives in NY, brings it to me, whenever he comes down to visit.....he gets the dried bulk kind.....
Posted by: 1323 (Guest), Sunday, April 13, 2008, 5:43pm; Reply: 4
I don't think I'm supposed to take Rosehips.   ??)
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 5:47pm; Reply: 5
Quoted from Lola
ahhh, my brother who lives in NY, brings it to me, whenever he comes down to visit.....he gets the dried bulk kind.....


Dried bulk....so are you making tea from rose hips?

I did a google search...Most companies that make rose hips to be sold as vitamin C use
it along with other C ingredients.  I found one pure rose hips from Swanson's Vitamins online that is 100% danish rose hips... 750 mg per capsule.  Have no idea of the amount to take.  Lola, would
you know?

Posted by: Lola, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 5:50pm; Reply: 6
I d take a cap a day of that.
the bulk one I soak a tbsp of it in green tea, next morning I add that to my smoothie, with all the other stuff.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 6:07pm; Reply: 7
fm,
why can t you take rose hips?
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 7:02pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from 1323
I don't think I'm supposed to take Rosehips.   ??)


huh??? please tell it aint so!!! I just ordered 5 bottles of Soloray 500 mg each capsule rosehip

cheapest I've found, even w/ the shipping included.  :)  
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 7:23pm; Reply: 9
Different ones of us take different quantities of vit. C. depending on our need. Bulk rose hips are a whole food and therefore their complexity will give a well rounded formula of vitamin and bioflavanoids.  Although the actual vit C content is low compared to powdered sources such as amla or camu.  A rose hips concentrate, if you can find one, would have a higher dose.

I take a much higher dose because I am working to rebuild my body after chemo several years ago, and adrenal fatigue, which requires much more vit C.  Amla is one of the C sources that I use.  It is a variety of Phyllanthus, which is an ingredient in at least one of the products sold at the NAP store for all blood types.  So I feel pretty sure that it is fine for all of us.

I'm taking the NOW brand Tru-C Complex @ 200 mg vit C per capsule.
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 7:32pm; Reply: 10
any thoughts on that Soloray Rose Hip?
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 7:49pm; Reply: 11
Is the Solaray Rose Hip mixed with ascorbic acid?
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 8:40pm; Reply: 12
If you can open this link, it's rose hips from Swanson's and 100% pure...sounds more like
Lola's bulk rose hips.


http://www.swansonvitamins.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=10001&langId=-1&catalogId=10051&SourceCode=INT999&productId=20783&R=39770&keyword=rose+hips&Ntt=rose+hips&Ntk=Level1&productDropBox=null&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial&N=4294967175&brandDropBox=null&healthConcernDropBox=null
Posted by: 1323 (Guest), Sunday, April 13, 2008, 9:02pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from italybound


huh??? please tell it aint so!!! I just ordered 5 bottles of Soloray 500 mg each capsule rosehip

cheapest I've found, even w/ the shipping included.  :)  


Now.. I have been avoiding vit c with Rose Hips for years because I thought I read in the ER4yt or LR4YT way back when that O's were to avoid Rose Hips... Lola??? help!  :)

That link on the Swanson Pure Rose Hips looks real good however if I can have Rose Hips... I'm anxious to hear about that.

P.S.  Also I avoided most commercial brands of Vit C because I'm not really supposed to have it (because of Hemochromotosis), except from natural fruits so I figured the Amla C would serve that purpose without having to juice several lemons a day!
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 9:34pm; Reply: 14
Quoted from Victoria
Is the Solaray Rose Hip mixed with ascorbic acid?


no ma'am.  ;)  I checked that before I bought it.  :)

I also just noticed the danish rose hip has the same ingred as what I get from Soloray, unless rosa canina means rosehip in another language (spanish perhaps?)
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, April 14, 2008, 4:49am; Reply: 15
I notice that there was no listing for the amount of vitamin C in the rose hips.  With the adrenal rebuilding, I don't think I would do well without a generous amount of C.  Maybe if the rose hips were used as a supplement to other vitamin C sources.

Just my opinion!  I know that Lola does great with only rose hips, but I don't think it would be enough for me.
Posted by: Mrs. Rodgers, Monday, April 14, 2008, 5:07am; Reply: 16
Here's a source for rosehips, whole or powdered:

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkherb/r.html
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, April 14, 2008, 2:48pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Mrs. Rodgers
Here's a source for rosehips, whole or powdered:

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkherb/r.html


And it's organic...A whole pound is only $7.00.  Thanks for sharing your great source!

Posted by: italybound, Monday, April 14, 2008, 3:07pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Victoria
I notice that there was no listing for the amount of vitamin C in the rose hips.  


Was this re: the Soloray? if so, there is 500 mg per capsule.
and thanks Mrs Rodgers for the link!! I love rosehip tea, but like Victoria, I need more than that for my adrenals. the combo will be great!!!
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, April 14, 2008, 8:57pm; Reply: 19
Quoted from italybound


Was this re: the Soloray? if so, there is 500 mg per capsule.
and thanks Mrs Rodgers for the link!! I love rosehip tea, but like Victoria, I need more than that for my adrenals. the combo will be great!!!


That's 500 mg. of rose hips, not 500 mg. of vit. C.

;)
Posted by: 1323 (Guest), Monday, April 14, 2008, 9:11pm; Reply: 20
Well for the present moment I re-ordered the Amla C and some Astrlagus (supposed to be so good for the immune system).

All the talk about Rose Hips is totally confusing to my flu - infected brain!   :-/
Posted by: italybound, Monday, April 14, 2008, 9:20pm; Reply: 21
Quoted from 1323
All the talk about Rose Hips is totally confusing to my flu - infected brain!   :-/  
Quoted from Victoria
That's 500 mg. of rose hips, not 500 mg. of vit. C.


Isn't this what is recommended for O's? and what is the dif between the rosehip and Vit C? I thought rosehip was Vit C.    


I'm w/ you funkymuse, but my brain is bronchitis infected.  :-/

Posted by: 1323 (Guest), Monday, April 14, 2008, 9:27pm; Reply: 22
I got mine because I went to a rehearsal with a group that had all had the flu and thought "I'm GTD healthy... I'll be ok."  And I was for a few days... but the bug was in me, like a fly that lays eggs in a corpus (I know, gross) - but same thing..

and after a few intense exercise sessions and too many saunas, I wore myself down and boom, bang, bomb... I was down.

I've had a slight break this afternoon in the symptoms after a HORRID 3rd day  morning where I wanted to cut off my head and throw it in a trash can... (man aren't we Hunters graphic!)

Anyway.. you can't be too careful with those viruses out there... it's just a warning to  me, no matter how healthy I think I am, after I run into someone who has had a cold, I should beef (beef?!)  (ha),  up on supp's and take it a bit easy knowing my body most likely has come in contact and is fighting the thing off.
Posted by: Victoria, Monday, April 14, 2008, 9:30pm; Reply: 23
Rose hips is a fruit of a certain variety of Rose, that contains a goodly amount of vitamin C.  But if you grind up a rose hip, it is not 100% vitamin C.  In 500 mg of ground rose hips, there could be 10 mg. of vitamin C, or 30 mg., or 50 mg., or . . . ??

Without knowing what the amount of vitamin C is in the product you buy, there is no way to know how much vit. C you are getting.  

Just like if you eat 500 mg of an orange.  You are not getting 500 mg. of vit. C.  Another example is that nutritional yeast is a good source of B vitamins, but 500 mg. of nutritional yeast is not 500 mg of B vitamins.  These products contain vitamins, but are not vitamins themselves.  Hope that is not more confusing!  :-)

I think there are a lot of reasons that Dr. D has recommended rose hips for a supplement, and there are also different sources of rose hips.  Once, while researching sources of it, I saw some liquid rose hips extract that was quite a substantial source of vitamin C.

I drink rose hips tea regularly, which, (the company told me) has about 30 mg. of vitamin C per tea bag, but I supplement with other higher potencies of vitamin C from compliant sources.
Posted by: italybound, Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 1:50am; Reply: 24
Well Victoria, firstly thanks for the heads up, I had NO idea!! and I called Soloray today. The have NO idea how much C is in each capsule because they don't test. Great!! I just ordered 5 bottles, so I guess I'll see what I can do about sending them back!  >:(      
While searching for the good liquid C, I came across these. OMG, they call these vitamins????????
http://www.puritan.com/pages/file.asp?PID=93&xs=
http://www.luckyvitamin.com/074312427404.html
That should be illegal!!
Guess I'll do some looking around tomorrow. I'll check out what you use and also the Alma. What a disappointment! All this time I thought I was taking some good stuff.  :-/
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 2:06am; Reply: 25
Here's a thought....What if a person is allergic to roses...Would rose hips be an allergic
supplement for them??
Posted by: Victoria, Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 2:26am; Reply: 26
quite possibly
Posted by: italybound, Tuesday, April 15, 2008, 5:05pm; Reply: 27
Quoted from Victoria
I'm taking the NOW brand Tru-C Complex @ 200 mg vit C per capsule.


how many of these do you take a day?
Posted by: italybound, Friday, April 18, 2008, 5:41am; Reply: 28
Victoria, I'm guessin' this one got by ya, cuz I know you'd have answered it otherwise.  ;D
Posted by: italybound, Friday, April 18, 2008, 8:20pm; Reply: 29
I ordered the Amla, which is basically what Victoria is taking. Hers has a few other supps in it, but I have them here, so can supp those. I just wanted to thank everyone for their help. :)
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, April 19, 2008, 1:06am; Reply: 30
Oh, Hi Italybound!  You're right;  I missed your question!   ::)

You and I had a short discussion recently about the amount of vitamin C that I take each day.  At that time, I was taking around 1,500 mg a day.  However, that has recently changed.  

I increased my intake to 1,000 mg with each meal, or 3 grams/day.  Wow!  I feel a lot better on this amount.  All my hangnails disappeared and I stopped seeing bruises.  And my sinuses feel much clearer.

So now I need to find a source for larger bottles of the amla C.  
Posted by: italybound, Saturday, April 19, 2008, 2:27am; Reply: 31
Quoted from Victoria
I increased my intake to 1,000 mg with each meal, or 3 grams/day.  Wow!  I feel a lot better on this amount.  All my hangnails disappeared and I stopped seeing bruises.  And my sinuses feel much clearer.  


Thanks Victoria. Wow, I'm going to need bigger bottles too I'm afraid. If you're taking that much, I prob need to as well. I thought I was getting alot w/ the Rosehip, but guess not. I ordered 6 bottles of the Amla, so hopefully when I get that, I'll start seeing some improvement. Glad you've found your level.  :)
Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, April 19, 2008, 4:08am; Reply: 32
Italy,  weren't you taking a high dose of vit C at one time?  Or was that because you believed that each cap was 500 mg of vit c?

I still drink rose hips tea, but I don't consider it a substantial source of vit c.  It just seems like a good food idea because Dr. D recommends it frequently.
Posted by: italybound, Saturday, April 19, 2008, 10:26am; Reply: 33
Quoted from Victoria
Italy,  weren't you taking a high dose of vit C at one time?  Or was that because you believed that each cap was 500 mg of vit c?


I thought I was....but since you posted the info on rosehip, I suppose I wasn't.  :-/

Posted by: Victoria, Saturday, April 19, 2008, 7:33pm; Reply: 34
Quoted from italybound


I thought I was....but since you posted the info on rosehip, I suppose I wasn't.  :-/



It will be interesting to see how you feel after you have started really taking more vit C.  I think it has helped recover from my adrenal fatigue.

Here is the ingredient list for the Tru-C BioComplex that I'm presently taking.  

The serving size is 2 capsules:

vitamin C (from Amla fruit extract)     400 mg.

Amla extract                            800 mg.
Rutin                                   100 mg.
Rose hips                                40 mg.
Grape seed extract                       20 mg.

The capsules are cellulose.
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, April 20, 2008, 2:49am; Reply: 35
Quoted from Victoria
It will be interesting to see how you feel after you have started really taking more vit C.  I think it has helped recover from my adrenal fatigue.
Here is the ingredient list for the Tru-C BioComplex that I'm presently taking.

vitamin C (from Amla fruit extract)     400 mg.
Amla extract                            800 mg.
Rutin                                   100 mg.
Rose hips                                40 mg.
Grape seed extract  


Yes, it will be interesting. I was sooooo happy to be taking all that rosehip  :-/ because if I remember correctly, Vit C is at the top of the 'chain' in repairing the adrenals. So hopefully I'll see some big improvements.
I have all but the rutin here, so I'll add that. But wait, I just noticed, this supp has Vit C (from Amla fruit extract) AND
Amla extract. what does that mean?  
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, April 20, 2008, 3:38am; Reply: 36
have you read dr d s latest blog?
he answers a question on quantity of vit C
Posted by: 1323 (Guest), Sunday, April 20, 2008, 4:02am; Reply: 37
Quoted from italybound


because if I remember correctly, Vit C is at the top of the 'chain' in repairing the adrenals.  


Totally!!!
Posted by: Victoria, Sunday, April 20, 2008, 4:06am; Reply: 38
Quoted from italybound

I just noticed, this supp has Vit C (from Amla fruit extract) AND
Amla extract. what does that mean?  


It sounds like it has vitamin C that has been extracted from amla fruit, and there is also some of the fruit substance also.  I like supplements that include whole food!   ;D
Posted by: italybound, Sunday, April 20, 2008, 2:27pm; Reply: 39
Quoted from Lola
have you read dr d s latest blog?
he answers a question on quantity of vit C


I don't see any info in his 4/10 or 4/19 blog? Am I looking in the right place?
Posted by: 552 (Guest), Sunday, April 20, 2008, 11:47pm; Reply: 40
I really like the Amla C too. (the one with the spirulina added.)  Gotta have it. I started off taking 1/2 teaspoon twice a day; now I take a quarter teaspoon 2 times a day. But for immunity & rebuilding adrenals don't forget the vitamin A!!  I'll swear by the fermented cod liver oil - especially you Hunters here.  When I starting taking that at a dose of about 20,000IU per day, my energy skyrocketed - I feel almost normal now & can sleep through the night!  It ain't your grandmothers cod liver oil!   :o  For the brave & adventurous, here is a weblink: http://www.greenpasture.org
Posted by: jayneeo, Monday, April 21, 2008, 12:28am; Reply: 41
hey as I read that article on cod liver oil it said it can make ear wax flow....hmmm, I have a deficiency of ear wax that causes me no end of problems, (dry, itchy ear.) in-ter-est-ing!
Posted by: italybound, Monday, April 21, 2008, 3:31am; Reply: 42
Quoted from 552
I really like the Amla C too. (the one with the spirulina added.)  But for immunity & rebuilding adrenals don't forget the vitamin A!!  When I starting taking that at a dose of about 20,000IU per day, my energy skyrocketed


do you have a link for the Amla w/ spirulina. As a Hunter, now I can have it. As an O, it's an avoid. Go figure. Energy, yes, yes, I would very much like to have some of that!!!!
  I've read so much info on the adrenals, it seems like it's all starting to blur together, so thanks very much for the info on Vit A..    :K)
Posted by: 552 (Guest), Monday, April 21, 2008, 8:47pm; Reply: 43
Glad I could help!  I found that out not too long ago: every step in the conversion of cholesterol into cortisol requires vitamin A.  Plus it helps with immunity.  
A nutrition-oriented MD started me on the Amla C a couple of years ago, at that dose: 1/2 teaspoon twice a day.  It's a place to start anyway.  My health food store carries it in tablet form: "Amla C Plus" by Pure Planet. I like the powder form better, but I'm not satisfied with the company I have been getting it from. Probably best to just google it.  I've tried getting just bulk amla powder, but it wasn't as potent as this product.

Jayneeo, I thought having too much ear wax was a sign of low thyroid function, so maybe you are hyperthyroid?  Now I'm curious about that article....I'll have to look it up again!  
Posted by: jayneeo, Monday, April 21, 2008, 8:52pm; Reply: 44
no, I am definitely not hyperthyroid....check the article.
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