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Posted by: Azure Agony, Friday, March 28, 2008, 3:37pm
Hey all,

Interested to hear from any other Type O people who feel they are very much on the borderline of hunter / gatherer. Some of the strength tests were literally split down the middle. I appreciate that the most important measurements are the fingers, legs and torso. Anyone else feel the same ?

Posted by: jayneeo, Friday, March 28, 2008, 3:40pm; Reply: 1
yes, although I am built like a classic gatherer, my main health problem is arthritis (a hunter disease) ......however, I am a gatherer.
Posted by: speedy, Friday, March 28, 2008, 4:04pm; Reply: 2
yes I too see this situation but have taken the Hunter Genotype for now as I did so well on Blood Group O and need the variety of vegetables - would be pleased to hear from others
Posted by: 1586 (Guest), Friday, March 28, 2008, 4:40pm; Reply: 3
Absolutely - although I come out as Hunter my profile is totally Gatherer.
Posted by: Azure Agony, Friday, March 28, 2008, 7:16pm; Reply: 4
Glad to see that I'm not on my own.

I have a weird body (don't we all), my torso and hips and seat are typically gatherer  :(  My legs and arms and upper torso / neck is completely the opposite, which is a good thing. I could (and have been) literally at least 2 stone heavier and the good parts still look good enough for the beach but even when I'm lean the bad bits, bodyfat etc is still borderline. Have noticed my weight go up a little with the genotype diet re: increase in carbohydrates, possibly the ghee too maybe a factor. May try the gatherer diet after I have given the hunter one a chance. Am doing 40 mins of aerobics per day also as Dr.D recommended. Really pleased with my body's response to high protein - has totally solved my coated tongue - was yellow probably for years re : candida / and / or putrification of the wrong protein sources like tofu. Just goes to show : Mum was right all along  ;D
Posted by: mikeo, Friday, March 28, 2008, 7:23pm; Reply: 5
gatherers are more gynic and hunters more andric ...hunters have longer legs then torso more so then gatherer's and hunters are more ecto/meso whereas gatherers are endo/meso
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Friday, March 28, 2008, 7:25pm; Reply: 6
Same here!
I have witten a lot about it the past 2-3 months ad nauseum.
The measurements are gatherer by a hair & so I'll try the gatherer diet.  I started on hunter & didn't have many changes.
Gatherer is harder as many favorite & available foods are now dots or neutrals.
If I were hunter, it would be easier!
But, we'll see what happens.  I really haven't lost much or any weight, but we have had a long, tedious winter. Warmer weather perks me up & I hope to see some results.
I do expect things to get better. I trust Dr. D & the diet.
If I get a SWAMI test(or whatever they call it), I should know better. Maybe I should only eat foods that are common to both diets. Being a veggie lover, that would be very hard!!
Mrs "T"   O+
Posted by: yvonneb, Friday, March 28, 2008, 10:59pm; Reply: 7
Be really accurate with your measurements. If you are unsure, read the relevant parts in the book again or ask a friend to read them to see if s/he has a different take on them. Just be really really sure. The two diets are quite different initially. It evens out when the black dots can join back in.
I found an excellent picture of the skeleton and skull in a medical school book that showed me exactly where the bones end/start that Dr.D uses as 'landmarks' for the measurements.
As you can see from my avatar I still don't know what Genotype I am. It's all down to the finger measurement for me and I am just not sure at all!
Reasoning makes me think that if I measure the length of my finger bones it would be an accurate measurement of the length of my fingers. But that means measuring from the knuckle bones. BUT- Dr.D must have a reason to have us all measure from the crease though! If I knew why, it would solve my dilemma instantly. The difference is 100% clear if I measure from the knuckle  :-/
Any ideas on that anyone??
In the meantime, Best of Luck to you!
Posted by: mikeo, Friday, March 28, 2008, 11:13pm; Reply: 8
take a picture of the back of your hands with fingers slightly spread and post them...maybe we can help you
Posted by: yvonneb, Friday, March 28, 2008, 11:16pm; Reply: 9
How do you do that? Never posted a photo before.... Thanks!
Posted by: Lloyd, Saturday, March 29, 2008, 12:01am; Reply: 10
The thing to remember is that the general physical types are just that - general. There will always be some who don't seem to fit in a group but are better there because of how they respond to the enviornment and assorted stimulae. If you are one who does not fit well into the generalized plan, getting a SWAMI from a practiotioner would be the way to go since that will take better account of your individualized issues.

The various measurements are designed to determine not only estrogen/androgen exposure but also various stresses in utero and in early childhood. Blood group, Rh and secretor status also play an important role.
Posted by: Azure Agony, Saturday, March 29, 2008, 1:03am; Reply: 11
Interesting reading peoples findings, I must be a gatherer, I am an endo-meso, gain muscle tissue real easy but fat with it. Makes sense when Dr.D talks about gatherer's hanging on to every calorie for survival. I've tried doing 'those' diets before which are fine for an occasion but not for every day life, this one is by far the best since it also deals with why we are like we are, now I understand myself better. As for the finger measurements, I think Dr.D said that within 2 - 3 mm is fine. Let's keep the post coming ;D

Posted by: jayneeo, Saturday, March 29, 2008, 4:08am; Reply: 12
it is possible to be an overweight hunter....(I'm not saying you are) you do well with vigorous exercize?
Posted by: Lola, Saturday, March 29, 2008, 8:05am; Reply: 13
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How do you do that? Never posted a photo before.... Thanks!

How to post an image/picture
Posted by: yvonneb, Monday, March 31, 2008, 12:22am; Reply: 14
Quoted from Lloyd
... getting a SWAMI from a practiotioner would be the way to go since that will take better account of your individualized issues.

Saw my local practitioner for measuring three days ago. She said she had no access to SWAMI and didn't know if she will have in the future.

Lloyd, I understood that the measurements are more important than, say the bodytype, as the measurements are what they are, but the bodytype is more a guess thing. Do I understand that right??


Posted by: Lloyd, Monday, March 31, 2008, 12:43am; Reply: 15
Correct. Body types are useful generalizations but they aren't specific enough epigenetically to type with compared to other methods and data combinations. Which is why they can be used to strength test when other data (Rh and secretor status) are missing, yet have less value when that other data is known. The measurements have a much higher correlation to cause, being influenced by your specific epigenetic history.
Posted by: yvonneb, Monday, March 31, 2008, 11:33pm; Reply: 16
You are a mine of information!
Thanks for the clarification- now I really can't mess up with my finger measurements :)
Posted by: 1586 (Guest), Tuesday, April 1, 2008, 5:28pm; Reply: 17
All to easy to be an overweight Hunter!
Posted by: 552 (Guest), Friday, April 4, 2008, 2:33pm; Reply: 18
Borderline Gatherer here, by a millimeter o' the fingers.  Meso/ectomorph. I was definitely a Gatherer before I had my first baby, but then my metabolism flip-flopped to Hunter; apparently activated celiac & I was severely underweight for 1
Posted by: jayneeo, Friday, April 4, 2008, 4:28pm; Reply: 19
of course you didn't really flipflop to just lost a lot of weight...its not the bodytype, its the fingerlengths...... ;)
Posted by: Mrs T O+, Friday, April 4, 2008, 8:25pm; Reply: 20
I still suspect that if I do SWAMI, that I will find out that I will need parts of both diets. Of course, there are some common foods.....
As for body type, I'm not just one of them. Few people probably are exactly one type.

S S & L,
Mrs "T"  Gatherer with a hunting license....
Posted by: speedy, Monday, April 7, 2008, 12:21pm; Reply: 21
What is SWAMI? I am like you can identify with both diets but have chosen Hunter for the time being - my body shape is really angular above the waist - square shoulders, very thin waist, longish arms with big hands (sounds horrendous!!) below the waist I am rounded, with a largish derriere, chubby legs (have to wear wide legged trousers) big knees and size 7 (English size) feet - I am forever trying to slim my lower half! the weight goes straight to my knees and the backs of my legs and behind - I have to be constantly ware of what I put in my mouth - too uch olive oil, sweet potatoes, root veggies and the weight piles on!
Posted by: 552 (Guest), Saturday, April 12, 2008, 10:48pm; Reply: 22
Whoops!  I just came back and noticed my other post was only half finished!  I think I was going to say that because of that, I end up choosing a few more adrenal-supportive foods that the typical Gatherer.  Jayneeo is right though; I really feel best with my metabolism running at Gatherer speed.   ;)
Posted by: trish44, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 12:39am; Reply: 23
I did have a bit of a time deciding between them, also.  But the finger length as well as remembering how I was the first 40 years of my life, has me knowing that I am a hunter.  But didn't the book say there are really 30,000 different types, and I assume that means all levels of differences on the scale.  I do so much better on a very low carb diet, and I need my meat!
Posted by: yvonneb, Sunday, April 13, 2008, 9:33am; Reply: 24
Quoted from speedy
What is SWAMI?

Hi, as far as I know, SWAMI is Dr.D's super duper computer program, that takes everything and more into account regarding you and your Genotype/ Bloodtype and comes out with an absolutely personalised foodlist/ exercise program/ life plan for you only. Neat, huh?

On the whole Gatherer/ Hunter issue, I have come to a conclusion.

1. The most important thing about getting your type right is the measuring.
2. But, if you cannot at all identify with your measured type, measure again.
3. Be really honest with yourself- we do know the truths deep down.

I have been dithering between H/G or ages myself.
My sister is also an O. Last week I was visiting with her and we measured each other.
I finally came out Hunter- which I am really happy about!
She came out Gatherer- which I would have HATED, but- she thought it was fine!!!

So, after all the anguish and millions of times of measuring on my part and trying to make sense of all the posts where people said 'go with your gut', my sisters response was an eye-opener. I would have felt deprived on the Gatherer diet- she is happy. Still can't fathom that.....

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