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Posted by: Chloe, Friday, February 1, 2008, 8:06pm
I am curious about the Warriors.  Did everyone leave and go to the Genotype board?  Or
are there issues with the diet or typing that nobody wants to discuss.
Posted by: Jenny, Friday, February 1, 2008, 8:22pm; Reply: 1
Quoted from Chloe
I am curious about the Warriors.  Did everyone leave and go to the Genotype board?  Or
are there issues with the diet or typing that nobody wants to discuss.


I check both the genotype warriors board, and this one in BTD every day and usually contribute something. Later on I will probably come back here permanently as I can't afford the subscription there, so I hope there will still be warriors here then ;D
Posted by: Ribbit, Friday, February 1, 2008, 8:30pm; Reply: 2
I'm still here.  Can't say there's been change.  The first day I thought there was some better digestion, but now it's back to "normal."  Maybe I have a tiny bit more energy, which brings me from -10 to -8 on a scale from 1 to 10. I'm a little bummed about it.  I'll stick with it, though, because I like cheese and I think chicken isn't good for me.  The jury's still out for the long term.......maybe I just need to give it some more time.  Oh, and I like Yerba Mate a lot.  In fact, I'm not drinking any caffeine besides that and I'm still awake, so I guess that's good.
Posted by: Janet, Friday, February 1, 2008, 9:44pm; Reply: 3
Hi...I'm still here. Dr D's quiz test told me BTD was best for me, so I've not switched to GTD. I'm happy with BTD...no category for me to vote! :-/
Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Friday, February 1, 2008, 11:21pm; Reply: 4
I have switched to the GT diet Warrior. I visit both boards but find the GT diet Board more focused and less confusing. I won't be there long though so I will be back full time here. I like the GT diet.
I was developing rosacea and it is gone. No more red face even with excertion. I stopped eating wheat as well due to the white lines on my fingers. So maybe that is it, but whatever I am happy.
I do not adhere to the portions I  don't have any weight to lose but I would like to maintain my present weight.
  I know I am eating more cultured dairy products then are recommended but I have something called blepheritis, it is a chronic infection of the eye and the dairy helps it. I seem to have less crusting on my eye I think it is too early to tell  if it is gone but I am hoping.
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Saturday, February 2, 2008, 12:12am; Reply: 5
I'm still here, too, and loving this diet.
Ribbit, I was reading some more about castor oil and what it can do for your stomach - using it on the outside. I wish you would read it. It still surprises me when I see how well this stuff works for so many different things.

This is a snip from the site: Dr. McGarey has successfully used the castor oil packs in a clinical setting for numerous conditions, including liver and gall bladder disturbances, abscesses, headaches, appendicitis, epilepsy, hemorrhoids, constipation, intestinal obstructions, hyperactivity in children, and to avert threatened abortions in pregnant women.

In The Oil That Heals, Dr. McGarey says that Edgar Cayce described at least thirty different physiological functions that could be changed for the better through the use of castor oil applied topically, mostly by the use of the packs.

Here is another:
Dr. McGarey is very humble in his statement, for he does present a plausible hypothesis relating to Edgar Cayce's suggestion that castor oil packs can strengthen the Peyer's Patches, which are tiny patches of lymphatic tissue in the mucosal surface of the small intestine.

According to Cayce, the Peyer's Patches produce a substance which facilitates electrical contact between the autonomous and the cerebrospinal nervous system when it reaches those areas via the bloodstream. Dr. McGarey thus understands Cayce to say that the health of the entire nervous system is, to an extent, maintained through the substance produced by the Peyer's Patches when they are in good health. Although the Peyer's Patches were discovered in 1677, it is only recently that medical science has begun to recognize them as constituents of the body's immune system.

Current research appears to confirm Dr. McGarey's theory. A double-blind study, described by Harvey Grady in a report entitled Immunomodulation through Castor Oil Packs published in a recent issue of the Journal of Naturopathic Medicine, examined lymphocyte values of 36 healthy subjects before and after topical castor oil application.

This study identified castor oil as an anti-toxin, and as having impact on the lymphatic system, enhancing immunological function. The study found that castor oil pack therapy of a minimal two-hour duration produced an increase in the number of T-11 cells within a 24-hour period following treatment, with a concomitant increase in the number of total lymphocytes.

This T-11 cell increase represents a general boost in the body's specific defense status, since lymphocytes actively defend the health of the body by forming antibodies against pathogens and their toxins. T-cells identify and kill viruses, fungi, bacteria, and cancer cells.

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/castoroiluses.html
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 12:18am; Reply: 6
I am glad to see who (and where) my Warrior relatives are.

Were all of you on the BTD first?

I'm fascinated by the healing powers of Castor oil.  I think I'm going to buy the book and
experiment.
Posted by: ruthie, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 1:11pm; Reply: 7
Very happy old Warrior.  I have actually become fond of the 100% dark chocolate.  I never thought that I would eat chocolate without a sweetner.
Maybe this is what is diminishing my appetite.  I divide a square and eat half mid-morn and other half mid-pm.
namaste
ruthie
Posted by: 1328 (Guest), Saturday, February 2, 2008, 4:04pm; Reply: 8
Quoted from Chloe
I am curious about the Warriors.  Did everyone leave and go to the Genotype board?  Or
are there issues with the diet or typing that nobody wants to discuss.


They had to go out and fight.  ;D ;D ;D  Go WARRIORS!!

(Had to give a little tease!  ;) )
Posted by: Chloe, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 4:35pm; Reply: 9
Quoted from ruthie
Very happy old Warrior.  I have actually become fond of the 100% dark chocolate.  I never thought that I would eat chocolate without a sweetner.
Maybe this is what is diminishing my appetite.  I divide a square and eat half mid-morn and other half mid-pm.
namaste
ruthie


Interesting you should be writing about chocolate because I just read an article on Dr. Mercola's site about chocolate and I was about to share it here. We are a genotype group
that is asked to eat chocolate as a beneficial food, but read this:


"Regular consumption of chocolate could weaken bone density and strength, which could in turn increase the risk of osteoporosis.

According to a new study, women who eat chocolate daily have an overall bone density 3.1 percent lower than those who consume it less than once a week. More than 1,000 women aged 70-85 were asked to keep a diary of how often they consumed chocolate or cocoa-based drinks.

The researchers did not distinguish between types of chocolate consumed.

Even though chocolate contains flavonols and calcium, both of which are linked to a positive effect on bone density, it also contains oxalate, an inhibitor of calcium absorption, and sugar, which is linked to calcium excretion.

This study comes less than a month after British medical journal the Lancet warned consumers that manufacturers usually remove the healthy element -- the flavonols."

Posted by: ruthie, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 4:53pm; Reply: 10
Thanks for the update Chloe...and just when I was beginning to adjust to chocolate without sugar. Wonder what DrD thinks.
namaste
ruthie
Posted by: +Aan, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 5:56pm; Reply: 11
I'm here and I love it! My biggest problem is no meat, (my choice as well, no animal) no bread (commercial) no potatoes.What's gonna fill me up?...Aani
Posted by: Ribbit, Saturday, February 2, 2008, 7:54pm; Reply: 12
Beet greens.   ::)
Posted by: lstreat, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 1:31pm; Reply: 13
Quoted from +Aan
I'm here and I love it! My biggest problem is no meat, (my choice as well, no animal) no bread (commercial) no potatoes.What's gonna fill me up?...Aani


I'm still here too  ;) but like Aani I'm having a hard time about what to eat. It was so easy to have chicken with everything on BTD now I find I'm having too much fish. I like fish and it does fill me up but we can only have it 3-5 times week (I think) and I was having it for breakfast, lunch and dinner almost every day expect weekends! Now what do I eat? I'm afraid to have too much grains and carbs because I need to lose weight. As much as I like beans, how many times a day can I really have beans!  ;D I'm still adjusting.

Laura
Posted by: Drea, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 2:22pm; Reply: 14
Me, too! I'm still here (I was out of town and off the Internet for several days)! I love the GTD, and it is working quite nicely for me. I'm still losing, and my eliminations have been very regular.

I try to frequent both boards but this board will always be my "home".
Posted by: +Aan, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 3:19pm; Reply: 15
Now I don't feel so all alone. I am also way too big. I don't need a lot of carbs either. However I am eating more vegetables which is a good thing. How are beet greens going to feel me up? Or were you just being facetous?
Posted by: +Aan, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 3:23pm; Reply: 16
And Ruthie, you are something else. After all 79 years and 6 years on the BTD? If you don't have a testimonial you should. I'm gonna go right now and check...Aani
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 4:07pm; Reply: 17
Quoted from Drea
Me, too! I'm still here (I was out of town and off the Internet for several days)! I love the GTD, and it is working quite nicely for me. I'm still losing, and my eliminations have been very regular.

I try to frequent both boards but this board will always be my "home".


I do notice one great big difference with the Warrior diet. My eliminations have profoundly
improved.  As much as I feel the protein choices are slim on this diet, by eating way more
nuts than I've ever eaten in my life and upping my fruit, I am taking in way more fiber.  When
you consider that poultry is missing from our choices, on the BTD, I might have eaten a
protein lunch with some veggies and a salad.  By having to substitute more plant protein for
animal protein, I've started eating more beans, more grains and less animal
food.  I've read that eliminating after ever meal is normal and healthy.  Well, I can't believe
how my body is reacting to this diet.  A much faster transit time.  Food stays in my digestive
system a lot shorter than it used to and suddenly, my entire digestive system is functioning
better.  It's now been four weeks on the Warrior diet.  Weeks one and two caused great
digestive upheaval.  But, at the end of week 4, I think my body is starting to accept all this
fiber and it's telling me it's helping me to clear out a lot of toxic waste.  A week ago, I was
ready to quit and only do the BTD.  But once I got to week #4, it's becoming a smoother
and more comfortable journey.

Posted by: Jenny, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 8:51pm; Reply: 18
Quoted from Chloe


But, at the end of week 4, I think my body is starting to accept all this
fiber and it's telling me it's helping me to clear out a lot of toxic waste.  A week ago, I was
ready to quit and only do the BTD.  But once I got to week #4, it's becoming a smoother
and more comfortable journey.

Good news Warriors --Dr D. has said in a thread on the Genotype site that there should be a black dot against mozzarella. Woo--hoo--------------- ;D


Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 9:07pm; Reply: 19
Thank you for that encouragement.  I'd been toying with the idea of giving up the GTD also, but if it'll get better, I'll stick with it.

My husband said that y'all should start a thread on the GTD corrections that are posted on the Genotype site for those of us who won't/can't pay for it.  Would one of you consider doing that?
Posted by: ABJoe, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 9:34pm; Reply: 20
Quoted from +Aan
I'm here and I love it! My biggest problem is no meat, (my choice as well, no animal) no bread (commercial) no potatoes.What's gonna fill me up?...Aani


The carbohydrates are a filler...  You can use some of the flours to make quick breads or cook some of the grains for a cereal.  There are also vegetable proteins which are a combination of protein, fat and carbohydrates...

Fruits also can be filling.
Posted by: Lola, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 11:44pm; Reply: 21
protein combos to consider
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy
Posted by: Chloe, Sunday, February 3, 2008, 11:57pm; Reply: 22
Quoted from lstreat


I'm still here too  ;) but like Aani I'm having a hard time about what to eat. It was so easy to have chicken with everything on BTD now I find I'm having too much fish. I like fish and it does fill me up but we can only have it 3-5 times week (I think) and I was having it for breakfast, lunch and dinner almost every day expect weekends! Now what do I eat? I'm afraid to have too much grains and carbs because I need to lose weight. As much as I like beans, how many times a day can I really have beans!  ;D I'm still adjusting.

Laura


Do you tolerate dairy?   Eggs?  I have even less choices because I don't tolerate eggs or dairy
or gluten grains, but I'm finding that a lot of veggies, soups (miso based) and more fruits
and nuts goes a long way.  I bought small cans of wild salmon online so that's a safe fish to
have thrown on a big salad. I've made muffins using a mix of quinoa and amaranth flours plus some almond flour.

I've pureed cooked dried apricots to use as a spread on a muffin.   I've smooshed peanut
butter into a cored out apple.  I've made baked apples and added dried cranberries,and I've made my own applesauce in the food processor to be able to use
cinnamon and sweetened both with apple juice.  I've made pesto using pine nuts. I've made a white bean hummus and used rice crackers to spread it on. I've stuffed artichokes with a rice
mixture.  I know this isn't animal protein..but I'm trying to use as many of these new food choices more often.

For breakfast, I often just have a protein smoothie using rice protein powder, some acai
berry concentrate, frozen fruits.  But we could just as well use whey protein powder.

There is this vegetable protein food called QUORN which is on our list and I think I've seen quorn burgers in the health food store, so there's another possibility.  

I've seen lentil loafs as meat loaf substitutes in vegetarian cookbooks before.

Getting mozzarella cheese back would help to produce a pizza or quiche.  But I see no reason
why a seasoned farmer cheese wouldn't work just as well.

Any nut can be ground into flour. Using melted chocolate, beaten eggs (whites and yolks
separately), there is a way to make chocolate almond torte for a dessert.  Many websites
online have vegetarian and even vegan recipes.


Posted by: Chloe, Monday, February 4, 2008, 12:00am; Reply: 23
All about Quorn

http://www.quorn.us
     

Protein Comparison     
In just 5 short years more than 50 million servings of Quorn™ products have been enjoyed in America, but many people still don’t fully understand what it’s all about. Are Quorn™ products made of soy? Or maybe textured vegetable protein (TVP)? Actually, Quorn™ foods are totally unique in so many ways, and there are some very surprising facts about the Quorn™ line that you may be interested to know!

All Quorn™ products contain mycoprotein. Mycoprotein (“myco” is Greek for “fungi”) is a nutritious member of the fungi family, as are mushrooms, truffles, and morels. The fungus used in all Quorn™ products is Fusarium Venenatum. There are lots of great things about mycoprotein which very few people know, so here are just a few:

- Mycoprotein is a fungus which contains high-quality protein, enabling us to offer an alternative, purely vegetarian source of protein to meat. It is high quality because it has all 9 essential amino acids.

- Mycoprotein is naturally low in fat.

- Mycoprotein also contains very few calories, so we can bring you foods which deliver on taste but which don’t max out on the calorie content.

- Mycoprotein also contains essential dietary fiber, which as we all know, helps to maintain a healthy digestive system.

- Mycoprotein contains zero cholesterol.

- Mycoprotein is completely meat-free and soy-free.

The mycoprotein organism that is used in all Quorn™ products does grow naturally, but we simply grow it under controlled conditions so that we can bring you a large variety of high-quality Quorn products.

Only Quorn™ products contain this special vegetarian protein ingredient, and our expert chefs have many years of experience in using mycoprotein as an ingredient and turning it into our deliciously tasty and convenient line of ingredient products, grillable items and classic chicken-style products that we’ve become famous for.

Quorn™ is simply the brand name we use to highlight those products that contain our special ingredient. Look for the Quorn™ logo in the freezer sections of natural food stores and the natural section of supermarkets nationwide and make a positive choice for you and your family!
Posted by: Lola, Monday, February 4, 2008, 12:24am; Reply: 24
Quoted Text
How are beet greens going to feel me up?


those will take care of the 'feel good' part, besides filling you up as well!! ;D
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Monday, February 4, 2008, 3:45am; Reply: 25
Quoted from Jenny
Good news Warriors --Dr D. has said in a thread on the Genotype site that there should be a black dot against mozzarella. Woo--hoo--------------- ;D


Well, whoopdedoooo! I like Dr. D. after all I think, maybe, for letting us eat a little mozzie in the future instead of these everlasting beans!! Just kidding. I am beginning to LOVE beans! They are so EASY to prepare and go down really nice with just about everything! Including walnuts - no kidding!

Dr. D. does need to address this business about chocolate and bone density. I have osteopenia and I certainly DON'T want any risks. Hershey's cocoa claims to have preserved the flavanol antioxidants. I just blend cocoa with peanut butter or almond butter, add a little maple syrup and a tad of soy milk. Roll in balls and eat with whole nuts. Keep in fridge. I only indulge in a couple of these a day at most. Caffeine is not my best friend.

Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Monday, February 4, 2008, 3:58am; Reply: 26
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/calcium/AN01294
Chocolate contains oxalate — a naturally occurring compound in cocoa beans — which in large amounts may inhibit absorption of calcium. However, the amount of oxalate in chocolate is small, so any effect on calcium absorption is likely to be very minimal. In fact, a small study published in 1989 reported no difference in calcium absorption between plain milk and milk flavored with chocolate. Also, many chocolates are now fortified with calcium.

Oxalate is found in varying amounts in many other foods, such as spinach, sweet potatoes, okra, kale, collards, chard, berries and tea.
Posted by: 273 (Guest), Monday, February 4, 2008, 4:15am; Reply: 27
Another warrior here.

Still a bit baffled. How did sweet taters go from being good to downright toxic? More information is needed. Scientific citations, please. Faith can be a beautiful thing...but only carries me so far. Please share your research, Dr. D. Enquiring minds want to know.

Rich

Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Monday, February 4, 2008, 4:35am; Reply: 28
http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=dailytip&dbid=53
Here is another very good source on the same site:    http://whfoods.org/genpage.php?tname=george&dbid=48#answer

I would suggest reading this whole page if you are concerned about oxalates. I think we need some clarification about this concern. I read that list and some days I eat at least one or more foods from every single one of these groups - in fact, they are superfoods for us! No doubt, we are getting a very high quanity of this stuff every day! No doubt about it. Like 750 milligrams per 100 gram serving of spinach - 610 per 100 gram serving of beet greens. I think I'm going to stick with okra and collard greens in the "green" family until we hear more about this. In fact, since I was already eating many of these foods before I started on this diet, it makes me wonder if that is why I have osteopenia anyway. (This problem has NEVER run in my family! None of my grandparents, my parents or siblings ever had a broken bone and neither have I, so far.)  No wonder I have been desperately wanting some type of dairy product that was acceptable. I do hope our moderators will see to it that we get some help with this. I am definitely concerned.

Now, I will go and have a serving of REAL yogurt and take my calcium, magnesium and Vitamin D. ----And we started off being concerned about chocolate?! Wow!(dizzy)
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Monday, February 4, 2008, 4:48am; Reply: 29
Quoted from 273
Another warrior here.

Still a bit baffled. How did sweet taters go from being good to downright toxic? More information is needed. Scientific citations, please. Faith can be a beautiful thing...but only carries me so far. Please share your research, Dr. D. Enquiring minds want to know.

Rich


Well, sweet potatoes were never on my BTD list, and, after today, I can see why. We were finishing up some dishes that were in the freezer from the holidays, and I was actually dizzy when I got up from the table after eating those sweet potatoes and the cornbread dressing. This was even after taking a Deflect! I have not been my best since, either. I did not indulge too heavily in either of these dishes, but they made themselves known in a big way. There is no doubt that this diet is different from the BTD in many ways that we haven't figured out yet. I could eat this same meal in the past and just have a few aches and pains for several hours -- never any dizziness or anything else like that.
Posted by: Jenny, Monday, February 4, 2008, 5:32am; Reply: 30
Quoted from 273
Another warrior here.

Still a bit baffled. How did sweet taters go from being good to downright toxic? More information is needed. Scientific citations, please. Faith can be a beautiful thing...but only carries me so far. Please share your research, Dr. D. Enquiring minds want to know.

Rich


Hi Rich, I think you are the first AB on this board to pop up, most of us seem to be A so the idea of sweet potatoes has always been out of the question for us.But I knew about sw.pot. due to two of my children being ABs. I share your concern, and although I have plenty of trust in this system, I must admit between you and me that it will be great when we can read more about the reasons for everything.It is certainly strange to think that for years one may have been assiduously following the strictures of the BTD only to find numerous items overturned, and in some cases promoted from Avoids to Beneficials and vice versa. Keep in touch and go on questioning.

Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 12:17am; Reply: 31
"Interesting you should be writing about chocolate because I just read an article on Dr. Mercola's site about chocolate and I was about to share it here. We are a genotype group
that is asked to eat chocolate as a beneficial food, but read this:


"Regular consumption of chocolate could weaken bone density and strength, which could in turn increase the risk of osteoporosis.

According to a new study, women who eat chocolate daily have an overall bone density 3.1 percent lower than those who consume it less than once a week. More than 1,000 women aged 70-85 were asked to keep a diary of how often they consumed ch ..."


  Every study needs to be read with with BT and or GT in mind. What is food for one is poison for another.
Posted by: 2579 (Guest), Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 12:30am; Reply: 32
Well, I'm 99% sure that I am a Warrior.  I'm starting the diet *now* and figuring out menus.
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 12:42am; Reply: 33
Quoted from 2579
Well, I'm 99% sure that I am a Warrior.  I'm starting the diet *now* and figuring out menus.


Are you coming off the blood type diet and transitioning to the Warrior diet?

Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 12:44am; Reply: 34
Quoted from Andrea AWsec
"Interesting you should be writing about chocolate because I just read an article on Dr. Mercola's site about chocolate and I was about to share it here. We are a genotype group
that is asked to eat chocolate as a beneficial food, but read this:


"Regular consumption of chocolate could weaken bone density and strength, which could in turn increase the risk of osteoporosis.

According to a new study, women who eat chocolate daily have an overall bone density 3.1 percent lower than those who consume it less than once a week. More than 1,000 women aged 70-85 were asked to keep a diary of how often they consumed ch ..."


  Every study needs to be read with with BT and or GT in mind. What is food for one is poison for another.


I agree now that I've read more.

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/95208.php

Posted by: 2579 (Guest), Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 12:50am; Reply: 35
Quoted from Chloe


Are you coming off the blood type diet and transitioning to the Warrior diet?



I just finished reading both books (Live Right and GenoType) this week, so I will start the GT diet.
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 1:32am; Reply: 36
Quoted from 2579


I just finished reading both books (Live Right and GenoType) this week, so I will start the GT diet.


Welcome and good luck.  Happy to have another Warrior "relative" to join us!

Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 3:10am; Reply: 37
When I switched from the A secreter diet to the A nonnie diet I began eating sweet potatoes with abandon.  I'm disappointed not to be able to have them anymore.  I like them and they seems to like me.  But if they have something in them that's bad for me, even if they don't make me feel bad, I'll bid them farewell. :'(
Posted by: +Aan, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 3:33am; Reply: 38
Thanks, ABJoe. We're not too far apart (OC&IE)! I'm still manuvering around this diet. I think I black dot more than I diamond. I am trying new things though. My avoid foods are tasteing a lot yuckier. Soon I believe I will be a lot more compliant than when I was on BTD(if I ever was)....Aani
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 9:09pm; Reply: 39
Am I understanding this correctly?  We get our black dot foods back in 3-6 months.  AND
the diamond foods are supposed to be our best choices to eat often.
Posted by: Jenny, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 9:41pm; Reply: 40
Quoted from Chloe
Am I understanding this correctly?  We get our black dot foods back in 3-6 months.  AND
the diamond foods are supposed to be our best choices to eat often.

I like to think of it this way:
Diamond foods ---always will be good for the likes of me, being lifelong slightly overweight
All other superfoods----always on the shopping list
Unlisted neutrals-----sometimes eaten as treats but not necessary to health
Black dots can officially come back to the shopping list as neutrals in 3-6 months or whenever I think I am free of toxins
Toxins---never to be consciously eaten again (except when socially necessary and then as little as possible)

that's my interpretation!
Cheerio 8)

Posted by: +Aan, Tuesday, February 5, 2008, 11:23pm; Reply: 41
What I was trying to say is I mess up all the time but eventually I will even out and be more compliant in my food choices. I'm just a bad girl when it comes to this. I just dieted way too much and having a hard time following any type of plan. I'm becoming more aware of my shortcomings and with time I'm sure I will overcome this. Even though I'm not compleatly compliant 50/50? I still get on the board. It does help....Aani  
Posted by: ABJoe, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 12:28am; Reply: 42
+Aan,

I am trying to learn Warrior foods for myself AND learn Teacher foods for the others in my house...  I do pretty well with the small lists, but the live foods and vegetable proteins are hard to keep in memory...   :o

My wife is now talking about remeasuring ::) since so many of her favorite foods are now Toxins... :-/  I put the book out so she can read for herself -  ;D
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 12:38am; Reply: 43
yeah.....dots are neutral frequent or infrequent depending on your metabolism......
Posted by: +Aan, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 2:48am; Reply: 44
ABJoe, I've got an O pos husband and a B pos grandson that lives with us. My grandson (14) is kinda interested in BTD. I haven't tested them in Geno though...Aani  
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, February 6, 2008, 9:47pm; Reply: 45
Quoted from Jenny

I like to think of it this way:
Diamond foods ---always will be good for the likes of me, being lifelong slightly overweight
All other superfoods----always on the shopping list
Unlisted neutrals-----sometimes eaten as treats but not necessary to health
Black dots can officially come back to the shopping list as neutrals in 3-6 months or whenever I think I am free of toxins
Toxins---never to be consciously eaten again (except when socially necessary and then as little as possible)

that's my interpretation!
Cheerio 8)



Great explanation, Jenny. Thanks!

I guess if weight loss isn't a critical issue, eating an occasional black dot food isn't quite as harmful as eating a toxic food.




Posted by: 815 (Guest), Saturday, February 9, 2008, 10:17pm; Reply: 46
I'm here. I'm just not posting lately. I was more... reading posts. I'm trying to follow the Warrior diet, I fell off and ate cheese and chicken..It's tough. No chicken, just fish, fish, fish. I hate fish. What about all the mercury?  I'm intolerant to chicken too...I'm not losing weight..probably because I keep cheating..I was cheating with mozarella..and I said to myself "Sorry Dr. D, have to have it" He must have heard me.  ;D  I do feel better not eating cheese. Dairy gives me acid reflux..
Posted by: +Aan, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 3:15am; Reply: 47
I have a hard time also and we are not the only ones I am sure. What I am finding out though is that I will eat the diamond foods. As I keep doing that the avoid foods are getting a tad more disgusting as I go. That in itself is a small miracle. I am noticing more of what I am eating and trying to correct meal by meal. Believe me this isn't rocket science and I'm no dummy. I know what I should be doing. Eating wrong has become a habit for me over the years and it will take time to correct. This website is a Godsend and I try to get on it habitually as well. It helps!...Aani
Posted by: Jenny, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 5:06am; Reply: 48
Quoted from +Aan
I have a hard time also and we are not the only ones I am sure. What I am finding out though is that I will eat the diamond foods. As I keep doing that the avoid foods are getting a tad more disgusting as I go. That in itself is a small miracle.  This website is a Godsend and I try to get on it habitually as well. It helps!...Aani


Well done Aani. It is comments like yours that will help others so much. I would never have thought that I could give up chicken, but even thinking about it now gives me a memory of the pain in the right side, just below the ribs that I used to have most of the time. I think I read somewhere that the bile duct gets inflamed with chicken.I have also decided to only use top quality- set- in- the- jar- yoghurt in future, as I realize that the added milk/cream is toxic in most dessert yoghurts.That should show an interesting improvement I hope. 8)

Posted by: Lola, Sunday, February 10, 2008, 6:54am; Reply: 49
hope you re all not forgetting your beneficial cortisol lowering nostril breathing from time to time!!
that balances you out immediately! ;)
Posted by: 1367 (Guest), Monday, February 11, 2008, 4:25am; Reply: 50
Hi,
I was following the BTD but didnt notice any changes. I am very frustrated with my weight. Would like to lose 15-20 pounds. Just read the Genotype diet and determined that I am a warrioir. I am A positive, secretor. I am trying to figure out the changes and will have to figure out how to shop. It looks like we can have whole wheat bread, right? What are the main changes from the A diet? I noticed soy milk isnt super beneficial anymore. Im slightly allergic to fish so can only eat it occasionally. Any advice? What are people eating for dinner? Is anyone losing weight? Thanks,  Soccermom
Posted by: Jenny, Monday, February 11, 2008, 4:57am; Reply: 51
Quoted from 1367
Hi,
I was following the BTD but didnt notice any changes. I am very frustrated with my weight. Would like to lose 15-20 pounds. Just read the Genotype diet and determined that I am a warrioir. I am A positive, secretor. I am trying to figure out the changes and will have to figure out how to shop. It looks like we can have whole wheat bread, right? What are the main changes from the A diet? I noticed soy milk isnt super beneficial anymore. Im slightly allergic to fish so can only eat it occasionally. Any advice? What are people eating for dinner? Is anyone losing weight? Thanks,  Soccermom

Hi Soccermom,
I am the same as you, A Pos.sec.I am very very happy with GTD after being happy enough with BTD.
For me it has proved to be easier than the BTD. We lose chicken altogether which is strange, but it makes sense to me in practice due to a stomach pain that was undiagnosable before, but now gone.We lose all white flour products which pleases me a lot. And we gain all the wholewheat products that you can imagine, plus some interesting little adjustments in the fruit and veg. dept.
I hope you have the book. Just make a full copy of all the food lists, and take them with you on your shopping tours until you know them by heart.Try to focus on the diamond foods which are for weight loss, and back up with the rest of the superfoods. Don't use neutral (unlisted) or black dot, or toxin foods at all.I don't know if I am loosing weight after 5 weeks on the GTD because I don't have any scales and that is not my primary focus, but I am certainly feeling well.
Re milk, I use rice milk instead of soy milk, and I use tempeh for the B12. Cold dinner is a pile of salad leaves, laced with chopped tempeh, home made cottage cheese cubes, seeds, homemade dressing based on plain yoghurt with herbs, lots of compliant salad vegs, and often fish ( we can use hake/hoki now, so that makes a standard grill, or we can stick with the old salmon cuts or cans.) But as you don't like fish so much, you could use hardboiled eggs in this salad. Also beans. We have far more compliant dried beans than before.
For a hot dinner, roast all the compliant vegs. and for a meat treat if you wish, have some turkey with it.
Rice (basmati) and dal made with plenty of turmeric, plus onions and green vegs. sauteed in the lentil mix, and a dab of plain yoghurt is good.
I'm looking forward to that old nursery favourite, baked beans on toast soon. ((when I allow myself to eat tomato again.) 8)

Posted by: Drea, Monday, February 11, 2008, 5:05am; Reply: 52
Quoted from Jenny

Hi Soccermom,
I am the same as you, A Pos.sec.I am very very happy with GTD after being happy enough with BTD.



Me, too. The GTD was the crowning achievement for my long anticipated weight loss. And I'm no longer constantly hungry. Big changes!
Posted by: Lola, Monday, February 11, 2008, 6:26am; Reply: 53
soccermom,
Welcome!

Click on 'Member Center' at the top of this page, then on 'Avatar Settings' on the left, to select an avatar, to share your blood type with us.

Add information below your avatar setting, in the 'Profile Information' section, typing in the 'Personal Message box': (Rh+/-, secretor status; subtype A1 or A2, MN blood typing information)

Create a Signature that will appear at the bottom of every message you post.

Indicate your gender, age, and location in the 'Personal Information' section.

http://www.dadamo.com/cgi-bin/Blah/Blah.pl?b=ref
read the threads in the Reference Section.
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, February 11, 2008, 8:07pm; Reply: 54
Quoted from Drea



Me, too. The GTD was the crowning achievement for my long anticipated weight loss. And I'm no longer constantly hungry. Big changes!



Drea.....you are one of the few Warriors who keeps telling us you're losing weight.  Please
do me a favor and list a day's worth of food for us , just so I can compare what I'm eating.
Posted by: 2275 (Guest), Monday, February 11, 2008, 10:59pm; Reply: 55
Hi! I am a warrior too. I came across BTD about a month ago and now I'm so excited for this new lifestyle, I went to the bookstore and got the Genotype Diet. So far (3 weeks), its been going great!
Posted by: Jenny, Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 2:09am; Reply: 56
Quoted from 2275
Hi! I am a warrior too. I came across BTD about a month ago and now I'm so excited for this new lifestyle, I went to the bookstore and got the Genotype Diet. So far (3 weeks), its been going great!

Well done Bastkittygal, you are an inspiration! 8)

Posted by: 1367 (Guest), Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 6:00am; Reply: 57
Thanks for the advice. I dont know if I am A1 or A2 but I know I am a secretor. Ill try the rice milk now instead of soy milk.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, February 12, 2008, 6:06am; Reply: 58
you might want to add 'secretor' to your shield in member center. ;)
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 12:32am; Reply: 59
Quoted from Drea

Me, too. The GTD was the crowning achievement for my long anticipated weight loss. And I'm no longer constantly hungry. Big changes!


Secreter here also...So what's your secret? I'm more hungry now than I was on the BTD. I did better on white flour than whole wheat. I trip on whole wheat. I don't like fish, except of course seafood, so it's pretty hard for me. I'd rather just be a vegetarian.
I'm trying to exercise as directed, yoga and strength training..I'm going to do kundulini yoga....

Yes, Drea, please...what is your menu like?
Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 12:49am; Reply: 60
Gaining weight on GTD. :P
Posted by: Drea, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 12:57am; Reply: 61
Quoted from Chloe



Drea.....you are one of the few Warriors who keeps telling us you're losing weight.  Please
do me a favor and list a day's worth of food for us , just so I can compare what I'm eating.


The main differences between what I was eating (on BTD) and am now eating (on GTD) are giving up chicken, eating less peanut butter and more almonds, and less overall dried fruit (I used to eat a ton of LaraBars, which are made with dates, now a toxin), and more dried apples, and eating more eggs than I used to.

Today I had a cup of coffee with soy milk, two fried eggs in ghee, 3 slices turkey bacon, and some sauteed okra in ghee. Then I had two cups of Earl Gray tea with soy milk and a small amount of agave nectar, water, and a few almonds. Dinner will be some sort of braised greens...probably spinach, sauteed in olive oil. When I eat vegetables, I almost always eat 4-5 servings (I love vegetables). Today I ate significantly less than I normally do because I ate a bit too much yesterday and am just not hungry today.

Hope this helps.
Posted by: Drea, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 1:02am; Reply: 62
Quoted from 815


Secreter here also...So what's your secret? I'm more hungry now than I was on the BTD. I did better on white flour than whole wheat. I trip on whole wheat. I don't like fish, except of course seafood, so it's pretty hard for me. I'd rather just be a vegetarian.
I'm trying to exercise as directed, yoga and strength training..I'm going to do kundulini yoga....

Yes, Drea, please...what is your menu like?


I don't eat very many grains. That's a big part of my secret. Grains and me = weight gain or stalled weight loss. So even though Warriors are allowed whole wheat, I don't eat it. If I do eat bread, I reach for 100% rye bread. That's the one kind of bread that I don't want to eat the whole loaf of...case in point, yesterday, while out and about doing grocery shopping, I picked up two small loaves of sourdough bread for my mom. I ate one of the loaves on the way home from Santa Fe. I'm outta control when it comes to grains, so I usually don't eat them at all. It was hard at first to give them up, but now I'm used to it, and hardly miss them (except for yesterday).

Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 1:11am; Reply: 63
Maybe that's my problem.  I've been eating a lot of grains.  But they make me feel so good!
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 4:04am; Reply: 64
Thanks Drea for posting your foods.

I wondered about the grains too.

I've been reading about food combining.  I'm trying to see if my digestion and weight loss
improves if I eat animal protein with veggies only and not add a starch.  And save my grains
for a meal when I eat beans and veggies.

Have any Warriors tried food combining?
Posted by: Jenny, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 4:46am; Reply: 65
Quoted from Chloe
Thanks Drea for posting your foods.

I wondered about the grains too.

I've been reading about food combining.  I'm trying to see if my digestion and weight loss
improves if I eat animal protein with veggies only and not add a starch.  And save my grains
for a meal when I eat beans and veggies.

Have any Warriors tried food combining?

I know this sounds like a bit of a cop out, but I find that watching portions and combining foods are just too much to worry about. I just make sure that everything in the larder is super, and I eat what I feel like. Since coming back onto wholewheat products I am OD-ing a bit out of relief and satisfaction, (6 years on white bread etc. often made me rather constipated) but now all is well regardless of how much I eat.
Weight? Not gaining weight, and probably losing a bit, especially as I walk much more now that I live in the centre of the city rather than in the suburbs. Don't want to get too tied up in regulations, or I may lose my joy in food. 8)

Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 5:39am; Reply: 66
food combining helps those with digestive issues.....
http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi?answer=988881415&id=988813483
Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 3:59pm; Reply: 67
I'm not sure I understand this about wheat.  If I eat whole wheat (as I did growing up, many times a day, which is why I became allergic to it), I get so constipated it's not funny.  If I eat a bite here and there of white bread (like Italian bread or something), it doesn't bother me, although I do have to admit it takes a huge amount of will power to not eat an entire loaf.  Is it possible that after I'm on the GTD a while I could handle whole wheat again?  Or since I have a sluggish digestive system anyway (despite eating everything I'm supposed to for loosening things up), will it just continue to make it worse?  Or is this a case of "it's all about the individual"?
Posted by: Drea, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 4:03pm; Reply: 68
Quoted from Ribbit
I'm not sure I understand this about wheat.  If I eat whole wheat (as I did growing up, many times a day, which is why I became allergic to it), I get so constipated it's not funny.  If I eat a bite here and there of white bread (like Italian bread or something), it doesn't bother me, although I do have to admit it takes a huge amount of will power to not eat an entire loaf.  Is it possible that after I'm on the GTD a while I could handle whole wheat again?  Or since I have a sluggish digestive system anyway (despite eating everything I'm supposed to for loosening things up), will it just continue to make it worse?  Or is this a case of "it's all about the individual"?


I think it's a little of both the individual...I'm similar to you in that 1) it's hard for me not to eat the whole loaf, and 2) even when I follow all the protocols for minimizing constipation (i.e. 600-800 mg of magnesium before bed), eating wheat keeps me un-regular, and 3) grains in general me to gain weight overnight.
Posted by: Drea, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 4:11pm; Reply: 69
Here's what I had for breakfast (I'll admit it's not traditional): Morning Thunder tea (yerba mate, black tea), bag of raw cauliflower florets (4 servings according to the package), dipped in a yogurt spread (drained yogurt, active cultures, chives, olive oil, garlic, cilantro -- it was packaged), and two small slices of fruit-juice sweetened brown rice bread with almond butter and agave. I don't normally eat grains, especially at breakfast**, but I'm still coming off my "ate the whole loaf of sourdough bread" withdrawal.

** grains make me sleepy, among other things, and I usually save them for my last meal.
Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 6:32pm; Reply: 70
And you're still friendly!  Congratulations.  If I ate that much bread I'd be in bed for a week, with a pillow over my head, doubled over in cramps, yelling at anybody who looked at me wrong.
Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 6:45pm; Reply: 71
Quoted from Lola
food combining helps those with digestive issues.....
http://www.dadamo.com/faq/smartfaq.cgi?answer=988881415&id=988813483



Yesterday I tried food combining.  I honestly had a much better day. No gas or awful bloat.  I
would prefer to just eat any of the Warrior foods in any combination I felt like but rather than
quit the diet because of continual digestive distress, I needed to find a way to keep on going
on the GTD for 3-6 months.  

I think food combining is good for people with serious digestive issues and I'm one of those
people.  I've been off gluten for 15 months and I don't think my gut is fully healed.  Food combining is probably going to be my best solution for a very irritable and reactive digestive system.
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Wednesday, February 13, 2008, 7:18pm; Reply: 72
Quoted from Chloe



Yesterday I tried food combining.  I honestly had a much better day. No gas or awful bloat.  I
would prefer to just eat any of the Warrior foods in any combination I felt like but rather than
quit the diet because of continual digestive distress, I needed to find a way to keep on going
on the GTD for 3-6 months.  

I think food combining is good for people with serious digestive issues and I'm one of those
people.  I've been off gluten for 15 months and I don't think my gut is fully healed.  Food combining is probably going to be my best solution for a very irritable and reactive digestive system.


Well, just for the sake of finding out what will happen, tomorrow I am going to try beans again with nothing but greens and see what happens. That will be interesting indeed. If I have stomach problems the way I have been, those beans are going to STAY gone for a while! (smile)
Posted by: northstar, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 2:19am; Reply: 73
Hi All,

Still here and kicking.
Have been away for a few days as I caught the nastiest
cold--twice!! Perhaps I am detoxing. Anyway, no problem
giving up meat. My downfall is the wheat. When I stay
away from it, I feel fine. I got sick so indulged in some
of the foods I love best, the ones I should stay away from.
But I don't feel guilty. I needed comfort foods when I had
a fever and stuffy nose.

Not so easy to prepare homecooked meals, especially
with the kind of schedule I keep. That is the problem
with living in a city like Tokyo.

But I have lost weight and have kept it off.(dance)
Posted by: Chloe, Thursday, February 14, 2008, 2:26am; Reply: 74
Quoted from northstar
Hi All,

Still here and kicking.
Have been away for a few days as I caught the nastiest
cold--twice!! Perhaps I am detoxing. Anyway, no problem
giving up meat. My downfall is the wheat. When I stay
away from it, I feel fine. I got sick so indulged in some
of the foods I love best, the ones I should stay away from.
But I don't feel guilty. I needed comfort foods when I had
a fever and stuffy nose.

Not so easy to prepare homecooked meals, especially
with the kind of schedule I keep. That is the problem
with living in a city like Tokyo.

But I have lost weight and have kept it off.(dance)


Northstar, would you mind posting a typical food day....one that you were following
before you got sick.  I think we'd all like to see what your strategy is for losing weight.
We could all probably learn something from anyone who has been successful at weight loss.


Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Thursday, February 14, 2008, 7:42am; Reply: 75
Quoted from northstar
Hi All,

Still here and kicking.
Have been away for a few days as I caught the nastiest
cold--twice!! Perhaps I am detoxing. Anyway, no problem
giving up meat. My downfall is the wheat. When I stay
away from it, I feel fine. I got sick so indulged in some
of the foods I love best, the ones I should stay away from.
But I don't feel guilty. I needed comfort foods when I had
a fever and stuffy nose.

Not so easy to prepare homecooked meals, especially
with the kind of schedule I keep. That is the problem
with living in a city like Tokyo.

But I have lost weight and have kept it off.(dance)


Northstar, I've been wondering where you were! Sorry to hear that you have been sick. But that is great news about the weight lose!!! (woot)(clap)
Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 3:54pm; Reply: 76
Spring, have you tried using seaweed in your beans?
Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 6:39pm; Reply: 77
Back to the Warrior diet.  I can't say I'm impressed so far.  I feel a little different, but I can't say better.  I'm getting up many, many times a night to go to the bathroom.  I might have a tiny, tiny bit more energy (calm energy, not nervous energy), but I think it's from Yerba Mate.  I'd hoped for some really nice improvements.  Seems like maybe the chronic boils under the skin in my neck are slightly less swollen.  The knots are still there under the skin, but the surface part is going down some.  So that's good, but it always goes in cycles anyway, so it's hard to tell.  Is this one of those things that I just need to stick with and see if things improve?  I'm going to go the whole 6 months before adding in the black dot avoids (but oops, I had some squash last night).
Posted by: Drea, Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 7:55pm; Reply: 78
I'm sorry to hear that the Warrior diet isn't doing great things for you. Rather than reading through the four pages of this thread, I'll just ask you again...did you try following the Teacher diet, too? Was the BTD not working for you?
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 8:17pm; Reply: 79
Quoted from Ribbit
Back to the Warrior diet.  I can't say I'm impressed so far.  I feel a little different, but I can't say better.  I'm getting up many, many times a night to go to the bathroom.  I might have a tiny, tiny bit more energy (calm energy, not nervous energy), but I think it's from Yerba Mate.  I'd hoped for some really nice improvements.  Seems like maybe the chronic boils under the skin in my neck are slightly less swollen.  The knots are still there under the skin, but the surface part is going down some.  So that's good, but it always goes in cycles anyway, so it's hard to tell.  Is this one of those things that I just need to stick with and see if things improve?  I'm going to go the whole 6 months before adding in the black dot avoids (but oops, I had some squash last night).


Ribbit are you getting enough vitamin A? In my opinion, boils are caused by a vitamin A deficiency...palimate and beta caroteen together...5-10,000
units per day. That's what I take.
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 8:42pm; Reply: 80
Quoted from Ribbit
Spring, have you tried using seaweed in your beans?



Ribbit, I haven't because of the high content of iodine. I have had multiple reactions and am scared to death of it. :-/
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 8:51pm; Reply: 81
[quote=973]Back to the Warrior diet.  I can't say I'm impressed so far.  I feel a little different, but I can't say better.  I'm getting up many, many times a night to go to the bathroom.  I might have a tiny, tiny bit more energy (calm energy, not nervous energy), but I think it's from Yerba Mate.  I'd hoped for some really nice improvements.  Seems like maybe the chronic boils under the skin in my neck are slightly less swollen.  The knots are still there under the skin, but the surface part is going down some.  So that's good, but it always goes in cycles anyway, so it's hard to tell.  quote]

Ribbit, you scare me writing about these "boils." Have they been diagnosed? I do hope it isn't hidradenitis suppurativa. I know someone who has a rather mild case of this, and it is worrisome indeed. I am hoping the GTD will help her, but we will see. Stress is one of the top aggravations to it. Seems as if you have enough of that right now... :-/ Take care.

Posted by: Chloe, Wednesday, February 20, 2008, 9:14pm; Reply: 82
Ribbit,

Please consider getting gluten tested.  A skin condition called Dermatitis Herpetiformis is
very much like what you're describing.  I am gluten intolerant and have this condition.  I
thought for years and years I had acne.  You would need to have a biopsy of your skin
but in addition, there are blood tests.  What happens from ingesting gluten is that the
villi in your gut get flattened.  You eventually become unable to properly digest your
food or get proper nutrients from food.  And some gluten intolerant people have this
additional skin disorder.

Try to find a dermatologist who will test you.

http://www.dermatitisherpetiformis.org.uk/library/photos1.html
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Thursday, February 21, 2008, 4:29pm; Reply: 83
Is there something I missed? The Book says that chicken is an avoid.  The quote below is from the email advertising that I get every day from the Website.  :-/


Warrior: A Mediterranean cuisine like Italian or Greek is a no-brainer for you, Warrior. How does roasted chicken with garlic and artichokes sound for tonight's meal?
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Thursday, February 21, 2008, 7:21pm; Reply: 84
Quoted from 815
Is there something I missed? The Book says that chicken is an avoid.  The quote below is from the email advertising that I get every day from the Website.  :-/


Warrior: A Mediterranean cuisine like Italian or Greek is a no-brainer for you, Warrior. How does roasted chicken with garlic and artichokes sound for tonight's meal?


I guess this is one of those times when we have to read once again what it actually says, "Toxins to Limit or Avoid." There is no doubt in my mind now that some of the foods on these limit\avoid\black dot lists are a whole lot worse for some people than others. Even some of the black dot foods may forevermore be an avoid for some people.  Others could probably eat a good number of the avoids with no problems whatsoever.

Having said that, I do wonder if this dinner couldn't have waited a few more weeks?! (smile)

Posted by: Jenny, Thursday, February 21, 2008, 9:01pm; Reply: 85
Quoted from 2330


I guess this is one of those times when we have to read once again what it actually says, "Toxins to Limit or Avoid." There is no doubt in my mind now that some of the foods on these limit\avoid\black dot lists are a whole lot worse for some people than others. Even some of the black dot foods may forevermore be an avoid for some people.  Others could probably eat a good number of the avoids with no problems whatsoever.

Having said that, I do wonder if this dinner couldn't have waited a few more weeks?! (smile)


Sigh! I suppose it is keeping us on our toes, and encouraging us to be tolerant and understanding, both character building features. But I hope the proof readers employed by the site get out of bed soon.! 8)

Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Thursday, February 21, 2008, 10:08pm; Reply: 86

They're apparently the same people who suggested "a handful of dried currants" as the perfect snack for Teachers.  Red or black currants are superfoods for Teachers, but dried currants are a whole 'nother fruit -- merely itty-bitty raisins, a Teacher Toxin!

And for a Gatherer snack, they recommended Hershey's Kisses.  Even though chocolate is a Gatherer Diamond food, milk and sugar are both Gatherer Toxins.

They seem to be at the same place all of us were back when we first started the Blood Type Diet.  (Oh, goody, chocolate is a Neutral!  Oops!  I'm not supposed to eat sugar?)  We got things straightened out eventually, and so will they.  I just wish they weren't confusing so many newbies in the meanwhile.
Posted by: Drea, Thursday, February 21, 2008, 10:19pm; Reply: 87
Quoted from Carol the Dabbler
I just wish they weren't confusing so many newbies in the meanwhile.


We are all newbies on the GTD.  ;)
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Thursday, February 21, 2008, 10:32pm; Reply: 88

Quoted from Drea
We are all newbies on the GTD.


True.

But I was thinking particularly of people who don't have any experience with the Blood Type Diet.  They might be more likely to take the GTD site's recommendations at face value.

Posted by: Drea, Thursday, February 21, 2008, 10:33pm; Reply: 89
Quoted from Carol the Dabbler



True.

But I was thinking particularly of people who don't have any experience with the Blood Type Diet.  They'd be more likely to take the GTD site's recommendations at face value.



I realized that  ;). And I appreciate that you see it, too.

Posted by: Ribbit, Friday, February 22, 2008, 1:20am; Reply: 90
http://www.dermatitisherpetiformis.org.uk/library/photos3.html

This one looks the most like what's going on.  I don't understand the other pictures.  Some of them look totally unrelated.

My skin started being a problem when I was about 10 (I had mono when I was 9, BTW).  My mother figured it was acne, and it did indeed look like acne until I was about 12, at which point it started turning into boils and would literally ooze for months.  We slathered them with vitamin E, tea tree oil, zinc oxide, everything Mama knew what to try.  Finally we gave up and let them do what they wanted to do.  When I look back at middleschool and highschool pictures, from one year to the next there will be the same sore on the side of my neck.  It'll eventually heal up, but the cyst under the skin (about the size of the head of a straight pin) stays for years.  Every so often they'll all come back to the surface (at the same time) and drain.  

I do know that nightshades set them off.

I had the Vega-test done about 10 years ago and was diagnosed with allergies to wheat, potatoes, dairy, corn and, strangely, peaches.  The test said I had massive Candida overgrowth, underactive thyroid and hypothalmus, and liver issues.  Spelt and all other gluten-containing grains tested fine.  When I first stopped eating these foods and was taking all my supplements and homeopathic remedies, my skin cleared up.  I started eating potatoes again and it all came back, but I didn't pick up on  it then because I didn't know about nightshade allergies--indeed, I didn't even know what a nightshade was, so I didn't make the connection.

When I got married my husband was on a gluten-free diet, so I joined him.  My skin didn't clear up.  When I got pregnant with my first baby, my skin cleared up and was the most beautiful it had ever been.  Even the cysts under the skin went away.  I also experienced a liver dump when I was pregnant.  I believe my body used the baby's liver to clean my own.  By the end of the pregnancy, though, everything was back.  The only other time it's cleared up was when I first went on the BTD.  For a few months it was all clear and I was so excited!  The reason I went on the BTD in the first place is that my B cousin told me she'd discovered the diet and found that tomatoes were causing her adult acne.  That was enough reason to sell me on it.  But it didn't last.

Is it caused solely by  nightshades?  Am I still getting low doses in something that I haven't figured out yet?  Is it my liver?  Is it Candida?  All I know for sure that sets it off is nightshades (even touching a pepper will give me as bad a reaction as if I'd eaten it).  Not only does terrible depression come, but my skin breaks out and looks awful for about two (three, before I found Deflect) months, then overnight suddenly dries up.  I can't explain it.  I'd hoped the GTD would help as well.

Before I went to the acupuncturist who did the Vega-Testing, I went to our family doctor (who I'd seen all of once since I was a small child) who diagnosed me with hydrodenitis (inflamation of the water under the skin, he said), and put me on round after round of antibiotics, which didn't help the boils but certainly helped the Candida.

Should I switch to the Teacher diet?  Possibly, but after remeasuring, I'm sure I'm a Warrior.
Posted by: northstar, Friday, February 22, 2008, 2:33am; Reply: 91
Don't mind at all.
Thanks for asking.

The morning I have a light breakfast because I am busy--
you know how it is. I either choose a Japanese breakfast
of a small bowl of rice (usually brown) (I use a rice
cooker that has a timer, so the rice is ready to eat)and
natto or a little fish, and I eat some boiled vegies with that, usually some greens like broccoli and the seasoning is
simple like a little soy sauce or lemon and garlic.

If it is a Western-style breakfast I either have wheat-free
cereal with soy milk or sugar free yogurt. Or, I have an
egg, either boiled or scrambled (with vegies and olive oil)
and I eat that with vegies and a slice of all rye bread.

I also like to have yogurt with fresh fruit, walnuts, sesame
and pumpkin seeds. I often add spices to that. Or, you can
add grated cucumber (onion is optional) and dill to the yogurt
with a little salt and pepper.

Lunch: This is often my main meal. I eat a variety of dishes
like: grilled, lightly salted fish with stir fry vegies and
brown rice (white rice is fine too). I also like vegetable
curry with rice. Once a week I eat lunch with a colleague at a
French-Japanese style restaurant (evil). Each day the menu
is different and usually fish or chicken with salad, lots of
vegies and rice or bread. Sometimes the fish is pan-fried and served over vegies in season. Other times the salmon is grilled in foil with vegetables. Tofu-vegie burgers are also
good. (You can substitute tofu with lentils).

Dinner: Usually more simple, unless I have an event to go to.
        Generally, I like to eat hearty homemade soup, or    
        sushi, or nabe (one pot dish of vegies and fish, or
        stir fry. Often I forgo the carbohydrates and just have
        protein with vegies.

Now, I made a rule to stop eating at least two hours before
bed time. Normally, I try to eat before 8:00pm. I also aim for
at 7 hours sleep. As I take the train to work, there are quite
a few stairs to climb. I walk a lot (quite natural in Tokyo).

As to snacks, I often prepare vegie sticks, nut & seed bag, fruit. I keep sugarless gum on hand in case I get tempted to
put cake, etc, in my mouth. In place of icecream I mix frozen
berries with plain, sugarless yogurt. It turns to ice cream
when you mash up the berries.

I drink little coffee. I prefer water and green tea (sugarless).

Now, I do love and I mean love chocolate, especially that time
of month. So, I once in a while buy chocolate, but eat 1~2
pieces and give the rest to my colleagues.

I am lucky as there are many types of ethnic foods here like
Chinese, Thai, German, French, Italian, etc. I basically avoid
meat and milk, but eat fish and eggs. After the war, some
scientists did research as to what would be a healthy portion
for average person. So, interestingly, the portions are smaller
here, however, for those who have big appetites, they can ask for more rice, etc.

Well, this is just an outline. I think the hardest for me to give up is the wheat because it is in everything. I have allergies so really need to stay away from it.   :X

So, what is everyone else eating? I would like some simple
dishes that are quick to prepare at night.

Suzanna
Posted by: Jenny, Friday, February 22, 2008, 5:37am; Reply: 92
Quoted from Ribbit
http://www.dermatitisherpetiformis.org.uk/library/photos3.html

This one looks the most like what's going on.  I don't understand the other pictures.  Some of them look totally unrelated.


I'm sure I'm a Warrior.

Oh Ribbit, I'm so sorry to hear of your difficulties.
Can you phone the Clinic in Wilton and have a phone consultation? Or is there someone on the qualified list nearer to you?
Apart from that it is really up to you whether you want to persevere with Warrior or do BTD. As you know Warrior improvements may not show up immediately. I hope someone with more knowledge stops by soon.  8)

Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Friday, February 22, 2008, 7:21am; Reply: 93
Quoted from Ribbit
Should I switch to the Teacher diet?  Possibly, but after remeasuring, I'm sure I'm a Warrior.


I certainly feel for you, Ribbit. It is bad enough to be struggling with health problems when you don't have small children to see after, let alone nursing one of them and the concerns that go with that. If you still have Candida overgrowth I can just imagine that you are going through some awful detoxing. I had systemic Candida when I was carrying my youngest  child. I didn't know anything about systemic overgrowth or how serious it was or that it could affect the unborn baby. Anyway, my baby was born with problems related to the Candida problem that I had. He hardly ever slept, was absolutely miserable and just so pathetic because it was obvious that he wanted so badly to be happy. He cried for hours and hours on end  :-/ We had nurses come who had worked in hospital nurseries and they would stay up so we could get a few hours sleep and not a single trick they had ever learned worked for him. He would still be crying so miserably at six the next morning. I was lucky to get three hours sleep pieced together in a 24 hour period the first year of his life. My husband and I both looked like death and our poor baby did too. No doctors were able to figure out what was wrong with him. They thought my anxiety was affecting him. He was hospitalized at three months and the doctor didn't want us to see him for four days. (They wanted to see if I was the problem!  :'(  All they did for him was knock him out every single night with a big old shot and lied to us and said he slept every night. There was another baby in the room with him whose mother rocked my baby every day until they would come in with the big shot. Her child was under an oxygen tent. I must say that I hated those doctors with a passion after she told me about the shots and, especially, when we went to get him and he was like a baby that came out of an orphanage in China - he was FILTHY!!!  The middle-aged doctor who flat lied to us died less than a year after that. This man was considered a pediatric specialist - whatever that is! All he did was tell the insurance company that the problem was maternal tension and gave us a prescription for a high-powered drug that we were terrified to give him.

I had nursed our baby for around three months until I simply had no more milk. When he was one year old his problems disappeared like magic and he was one of the happiest, healthiest looking children I've ever seen in my life. He hardly ever had any of the usual childhood illnesses. He would still have nightmares now and then, but they soon were gone too.

After I learned about Candida overgrowth, everything that had happened made perfect sense. It took me a long time to get better but finally I did. I just wish that I had known about the BTD or the GTD back then!

Ribbit, I know you have tried so hard to be healthy and have a healthy family! I'm beginning to wonder if you will be able to get where you want to be until after you finish nursing your baby. I just feel that there is a key to a real solution for you. You mentioned the antibiotics - that is what brought on my Candida problem. There is no telling how many rounds of that stuff I took before I found the benefits of cranberry capsules for urinary tract "infections!" The last time I visited a urologist I was so weak I could hardly get off the examining table I had taken so many antibiotics. Have you ever tried astragulus? Taking elderberry regularly? I'm sure you take probiotics. I would think that you've already tried the Yeast Protocols too. I would not hesitate to do them again if you think it won't bother your baby.

Please take care of yourself - and don't beat up on yourself about anything!! I think you have already done enough of that to last a lifetime!
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Friday, February 22, 2008, 3:26pm; Reply: 94
Quoted from 2330


I guess this is one of those times when we have to read once again what it actually says, "Toxins to Limit or Avoid." There is no doubt in my mind now that some of the foods on these limit\avoid\black dot lists are a whole lot worse for some people than others. Even some of the black dot foods may forevermore be an avoid for some people.  Others could probably eat a good number of the avoids with no problems whatsoever.

Having said that, I do wonder if this dinner couldn't have waited a few more weeks?! (smile)




You don't seem to understand, chicken does not have a black dot next to it. It's a real avoid on the Warrior list. The information coming from the Genotype website is wrong. Unless chicken was taken off the toxins list, but that's awfully fast since the book just was released.
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, February 22, 2008, 3:47pm; Reply: 95
Quoted from Ribbit
http://www.dermatitisherpetiformis.org.uk/library/photos3.html

This one looks the most like what's going on.  I don't understand the other pictures.  Some of them look totally unrelated.

My skin started being a problem when I was about 10 (I had mono when I was 9, BTW).  My mother figured it was acne, and it did indeed look like acne until I was about 12, at which point it started turning into boils and would literally ooze for months.  We slathered them with vitamin E, tea tree oil, zinc oxide, everything Mama knew what to try.  Finally we gave up and let them do what they wanted to do.  When I look back at middleschool and highschool pictures, from one year to the next there will be the same sore on the side of my neck.  It'll eventually heal up, but the cyst under the skin (about the size of the head of a straight pin) stays for years.  Every so often they'll all come back to the surface (at the same time) and drain.  

I do know that nightshades set them off.

I had the Vega-test done about 10 years ago and was diagnosed with allergies to wheat, potatoes, dairy, corn and, strangely, peaches.  The test said I had massive Candida overgrowth, underactive thyroid and hypothalmus, and liver issues.  Spelt and all other gluten-containing grains tested fine.  When I first stopped eating these foods and was taking all my supplements and homeopathic remedies, my skin cleared up.  I started eating potatoes again and it all came back, but I didn't pick up on  it then because I didn't know about nightshade allergies--indeed, I didn't even know what a nightshade was, so I didn't make the connection.

When I got married my husband was on a gluten-free diet, so I joined him.  My skin didn't clear up.  When I got pregnant with my first baby, my skin cleared up and was the most beautiful it had ever been.  Even the cysts under the skin went away.  I also experienced a liver dump when I was pregnant.  I believe my body used the baby's liver to clean my own.  By the end of the pregnancy, though, everything was back.  The only other time it's cleared up was when I first went on the BTD.  For a few months it was all clear and I was so excited!  The reason I went on the BTD in the first place is that my B cousin told me she'd discovered the diet and found that tomatoes were causing her adult acne.  That was enough reason to sell me on it.  But it didn't last.

Is it caused solely by  nightshades?  Am I still getting low doses in something that I haven't figured out yet?  Is it my liver?  Is it Candida?  All I know for sure that sets it off is nightshades (even touching a pepper will give me as bad a reaction as if I'd eaten it).  Not only does terrible depression come, but my skin breaks out and looks awful for about two (three, before I found Deflect) months, then overnight suddenly dries up.  I can't explain it.  I'd hoped the GTD would help as well.

Before I went to the acupuncturist who did the Vega-Testing, I went to our family doctor (who I'd seen all of once since I was a small child) who diagnosed me with hydrodenitis (inflamation of the water under the skin, he said), and put me on round after round of antibiotics, which didn't help the boils but certainly helped the Candida.

Should I switch to the Teacher diet?  Possibly, but after remeasuring, I'm sure I'm a Warrior.


Ribbit, I feel really badly for your situation.

My skin issues look(ed) more like the page I linked you to and not the others that showed
different parts of the body that were affected.  You're calling yours "boils" and being you
started having these at an early age as did I, I truly wouldn't think either of us had classic
acne.    Mine are not boils, but raised bumps with fluid inside and unlike acne, if
popped, they get highly inflamed for a long while. I know now not to touch them. Nothing
topical has worked but one face washing soap has helped enormously. It's from a company
called HOME HEALTH and the product is called "Facial Cleansing Gel" specifically for
sensitive skin. It contains no soap or artificial colors.   (www.HomeHealthUS.com)

Your acne outbreaks as a child sound like my experience. It was called acne but I'm not quite
sure it was JUST acne or classic acne. In my family, I had an aunt with the same thing which
extended into her adult years so I'm still thinking there's a genetic component to gluten
intolerance. One of my sisters has something similar.

I've been diagnosed with candida many times as well and as an adult, there are still times where I'll get these oozy bumps in specific places on my jaw which goes down towards my neck.  Not as extreme as what you're describing as boils, but still an outbreak that comes in intervals and then calms down.  It's frustrating not to be able to figure out the exact cause although stopping gluten for me was at least a major improvement. I notice the dairy is now doing the same break out thing to me as the gluten foods did,  was so I quit
eating all dairy foods on the Warrior diet for now.

The Teacher diet appears to have even more dairy foods than the Warrior diet does, so switching without having the Teacher measurements that match the requirements might not be the best way to go.  I thought from the start that I was an Explorer because of the toxin issue and I still wonder if there is a category of genotype that many of us belong to that hasn't been identified or described up to this point.

I feel I CAN fit the Warrior diet with many exceptions but wonder if my food choices were
some of the other (but weird) animal proteins on the Explorer diet, would I be more properly adjusting to a genotype diet.

Do you take probiotics?  It's one way to overpopulate the bad bacteria and replace it
with good.  I take triple the amounts shown on bottles of probiotics and sometimes that
doesn't even seem like enough.

I also wonder if skin issues are related to blood sugar issues which is why i think I need
a lot more protein than this Warrior diet gives me and far less grains or foods with sugar.
(like chocolate).

It might help you to try the NAP product Intrinsa.  It's one of the few products that I think I can't live without now.  I take it before every meal.  My skin was doing great until I stopped taking it and began eating dairy.  I'm back to dairy and gluten avoidance and back to Intrinsa.

INTRINSA:

Created for use in his clinical practice, Dr. D’Adamo has blended two synergistic dietary nutrients, Butyric Acid and Caprylic Acid, with Larch Arabinogalactan to create a superior formula to protect and support stomach, intestine, and colon health.

Butyric acid is a short chain fatty acid, which supports the health and healing of cells in the small and large intestine, and serves the natural processes of aerobic energy metabolism. Short chain fatty acids can have the protective ability of impeding the proliferation of damaging cells in the colon, and have been associated with helping to maintain healthy blood lipid and sugar levels.

Caprylic acid is a medium-chain fatty acid that is absorbed from the intestines and carried by blood lipids. However, medium-chain fatty acids have more difficulty in penetrating fatty cell walls. In the Intrinsa formula, caprylic acid works synergistically with butyric acid — a short chain fatty acid — so that it can more easily penetrate tissues in the body such as muscles, joints, and sinuses. Caprylic acid is known to have anti-fungal properties.

Mounting evidence also suggests that some of the naturally derived, medium-chain, saturated fatty acids also possess anti-microbial and anti-parasitic properties. Larch arabinogalactan further enhances the Intrinsa formula, improving gastrointestinal health by increasing gut microflora, and offering immune enhancing properties. Magnesium acts to stabilize and blend the two protective fatty acids.




Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Friday, February 22, 2008, 6:17pm; Reply: 96
Quoted from 815



You don't seem to understand, chicken does not have a black dot next to it. It's a real avoid on the Warrior list. The information coming from the Genotype website is wrong. Unless chicken was taken off the toxins list, but that's awfully fast since the book just was released.


You may need to do what I mentioned first. Have you noticed the word LIMIT on that column??? I think it means exactly what it says. But some people are going to have trouble with some foods no matter what list it appears on for the rest of their lives, as I said. Some people have a whole lot more trouble with chicken than others. As for me, the night we were rushed and Wendy's was the option, their new fish sandwich was a disaster. I only ate the fillet but I was miserable all day yesterday from it. I would have been better off eating the grilled chicken or going hungry. We're living in a real world and sometimes we have to do the best we can as Lloyd has said.  I am not eating anything at this point that is not on my superfood list, haven't since I started on the diet and don't plan to anytime soon.

Obviously, you have not read too many of my posts or you would already know this! (smile)

Finally, I am well aware that the other website is having problems. Dr. D. has spoiled all of us with this wonderful site and it is obvious that a lot of TLC has gone into it. No doubt, the other site will get its act together or cease to exist. Dr. D.'s followers are much too smart to have a whole lot of patience with erroneous information. Most of us have spent nearly a lifetime getting fed up with that sort of thing already. I'm afraid Dr. D. is going to lose five years off his life worrying over that errant baby.  :-/
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Friday, February 22, 2008, 6:57pm; Reply: 97

Spring, you're right about that heading.  Neither of Dr. D's diets requires total abstinence from avoids.  But (as you acknowledge in your final paragraph) it's one thing for an individual to knowingly choose to eat an avoid once in a while, for whatever reason, and it's quite another for an "official" site to be repeatedly handing out clearly erroneous information.  We're "allowed to cheat" -- they aren't.

Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Friday, February 22, 2008, 7:24pm; Reply: 98

I assume that "they" are web people, maybe even diet people, but clearly *not* experienced BTDers.  The GTD site is a *huge* undertaking -- actually getting it online simultaneously with publication of the book was an impressive feat, and the site obviously has great potential.  But it looks like they need some detail-oriented people to check things before they're put online.

It would also help if the site actually contained all of the features promised in the book.  Last time I was over there, there were no official complete food lists, for example, just copies of the book's lists, plus forum members' guesses at what the neutrals are -- basically what you could get from the book plus this forum.  I wonder if they're waiting to do a full Typebase sort of thing?  That would be great, but the complete lists obviously exist, and putting them on the site (at least for now) would be a trivial exercise compared to what they've already accomplished, and a very welcome addition.

The site presumably received its biggest wave of inquiries shortly after release of the book on December 26th.  That means the first crop of paid memberships will expire in late March / early April.  I hope they can overcome most of their growing pains well before then, or there may be very few re-ups.

And that would be a shame.  :-/

Posted by: Jenny, Friday, February 22, 2008, 9:16pm; Reply: 99
Quoted from 815



You don't seem to understand, chicken does not have a black dot next to it. It's a real avoid on the Warrior list. The information coming from the Genotype website is wrong. Unless chicken was taken off the toxins list, but that's awfully fast since the book just was released.

I think that some confusion arises because Avoids and Black Dots are listed in the same column, and so the head of the column has to be read as two separate issues, not bundled together. 8)

Posted by: Jenny, Friday, February 22, 2008, 9:17pm; Reply: 100
Quoted from Carol the Dabbler

Spring, you're right about that heading.  Neither of Dr. D's diets requires total abstinence from avoids.  But (as you acknowledge in your final paragraph) it's one thing for an individual to knowingly choose to eat an avoid once in a while, for whatever reason, and it's quite another for an "official" site to be repeatedly handing out clearly erroneous information.  We're "allowed to cheat" -- they aren't.



Brilliant! 8)
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Friday, February 22, 2008, 9:38pm; Reply: 101
Quoted from 2330


You may need to do what I mentioned first. Have you noticed the word LIMIT on that column??? I think it means exactly what it says. But some people are going to have trouble with some foods no matter what list it appears on for the rest of their lives, as I said. Some people have a whole lot more trouble with chicken than others. As for me, the night we were rushed and Wendy's was the option, their new fish sandwich was a disaster. I only ate the fillet but I was miserable all day yesterday from it. I would have been better off eating the grilled chicken or going hungry. We're living in a real world and sometimes we have to do the best we can as Lloyd has said.  I am not eating anything at this point that is not on my superfood list, haven't since I started on the diet and don't plan to anytime soon.

Obviously, you have not read too many of my posts or you would already know this! (smile)

Finally, I am well aware that the other website is having problems. Dr. D. has spoiled all of us with this wonderful site and it is obvious that a lot of TLC has gone into it. No doubt, the other site will get its act together or cease to exist. Dr. D.'s followers are much too smart to have a whole lot of patience with erroneous information. Most of us have spent nearly a lifetime getting fed up with that sort of thing already. I'm afraid Dr. D. is going to lose five years off his life worrying over that errant baby.  :-/


Spring, there's obviously a glitch. They would never recommend an "avoid" as a dinner option for a Warrior if they're sending out those emails to attract people to join. They should have suggested salmon, not chicken!  :)

As I mentioned before, there is no black dot next to chicken. Chicken is an
avoid.  The last time I checked the dictionary avoid, means: "to stay away from. to keep away from; keep clear of; shun: to avoid a person; to avoid taxes; to avoid danger." It doesn't mean "eat once a month or once a week". If that were the case, Dr. D would have listed "have once a week" instead of "avoid". :)
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, February 22, 2008, 9:48pm; Reply: 102
i prefer never to say I'm"cheating".  It makes me feel like I'd be doing something wrong or
unethical or illegal.  In truth, we are entitled to eat any limited food or any food for that
matter based on our personal circumstances and choices.  Not all of us are doing this diet
as saints.  And we are subject to availability of food choices depending on where we are.
I know for sure that if I were in any situation where I had a food choice to make, I'd chose
the least objectionable one.  I'd eat grilled chicken over fried fish.  But still, I think if anyone
is talking about recommending an ideal food choice for a Warrior, that chicken would not
be one of the recommendations. It sounds to me like an error.
Posted by: ABJoe, Friday, February 22, 2008, 10:29pm; Reply: 103
Quoted from Ribbit
My skin started being a problem when I was about 10 (I had mono when I was 9, BTW).  My mother figured it was acne, and it did indeed look like acne until I was about 12, at which point it started turning into boils and would literally ooze for months.


Ribbit,

I think the mono was such a trauma that you developed multiple sensitivities.  Now those sensitivities, some low grade and some high grade (nightshades), are what is causing your discomfort...  My recommendation is to look into NAET (www.naet.com) to relieve some of the energy sensitivities while you continue with the diet.

At about 7, I had a fall, landed on my head, wrenched my neck and hurt some of the nerves in my upper neck.  From then on I had problems that continued getting worse until, at 35 I started having exhaustive collapses to go along with all of the other problems.  Finally, I was introduced to NAET and am fortunate to live within 15 miles of the technique developer's office...  When we did the initial testing, the energy test showed that I was (she said allergic, I say "sensitive") sensitive to all 150+ foods tested, except carrots.  Soem foods showed a mild sensitivity and others showed a major problem.  I was also sensitive to many chemicals, medicines - both prescription and OTC, and many other normal household items...

The NAET practitioner explains that all items have a specific energy and the body senses these energy levels during times of trauma and stores this record as an "allergy" in the hypothalamus.  Every time you come into contact with the offending energy, your body reacts with a "fight or flight" response...  If the body "thinks" that some organ is a problem, you can develop sensitivities to organs, although reactions to organs are usually in combination with exposure to something external (food, odor, or touched) energy.


I had all types of reactions from minor itching to adrenal shutdown/collapse.
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Saturday, February 23, 2008, 12:43am; Reply: 104
I agree that it would be a shame for the other site to fail after it has come this far. Dr. D. has already freely given away a king's ransom in information that he and his dad spent many decades accummulating. We are truly indebted to him and his family for making our lives so much better than we could have imagined - and teaching us the why along with it.
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 2:44pm; Reply: 105
Thanks, ABJoe and others.  When this baby weans I'm going to do some serious cleansing (liver, Candida, parasite, total body, and figure out what's up with my adrenals).  I might even go on a raw/GTD diet.  My skin got a little better a few months ago when I went almost totally carb-free.  I cut out all grains except millet and quinoa (before GTD, when millet was okay), and only allowed myself grapefruit, lemons and limes for fruit.  After a while my skin did begin to look a little better, but I felt even more tired than usual and a little depressed and it was a real chore to even get out of bed to tend to my children.  It was almost easier to lay there with a pillow over my head and just listen to them fuss.  That's saying a lot.  At any rate, I added fruit and grains back in, my skin got worse, and I had a little more strength.

Edited to add:  Chloe called her skin problems "raised bumps with fluid inside."  Maybe "boils" isn't the right term for me to use.  But isn't the definition of boils raised bumps with fluid inside?
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Tuesday, February 26, 2008, 4:11pm; Reply: 106
Ribbit, I get those bumps on my face. Red, only fluid inside, like the size of a pimple?   I got them from eating oranges and lemons. I found it out by accident when I ate a mango and my face broke out the next morning I realized I was allergic to mangos, so I experimented with oranges and I got the red bumps you speak of on my face. Having problems with break outs since 16 years old, I stopped eating oranges and lemons.  The ony citrus that doesn't affect me is grapefruit.

A few weeks ago, I was trying to make salad dressing with lemon juice instead of vinegar and after 3 days of eating salad like this, my face broke out in red bumps. As soon as I stop the lemon, my face clears up.
Posted by: Ribbit, Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 2:36am; Reply: 107
These are more chronic than what you're talking about.  Glad you figured out what it was.  :)
Posted by: northstar, Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 6:06am; Reply: 108
Hi, fellow warriors.

This site has been real busy.

Ribbit, I feel for you.
I have had quite a few skin problems, staying off chocolate, wheat
and milk has helped. Interestingly, I had no skin problems when I
was pregnant but I broke out in acne and other stuff (red small,
itchy spots) after my son was born. This continued untill I weaned
him. I think it also has something to do with my hormones going
all wacky. My son became colic and he was so active. I hardly got
any sleep. Ah, the sacrifices we make as mothers. (angel)

Now, I happen to love and I mean love chicken. Almost as hard to
give up as wheat. And yes, I'll admit it, I eat a little lean
chicken once and a while. But I do not feel bad after eating it.
I keep a food diary and have a pretty good idea what works and
what does not. Many of the avoids on Dr. Ds list are actually
avoids for me. Chicken I am not so sure about, but a doctor told
me if I can find free range chicken it is okay. My body can no
longer tolerate foods that so many additives, like hormones,
antibiotics, and so on.

I started my food diary when I went on a Dr Josh's 21 Detox diet.
This is easy to follow. It's basically a liver cleanse and you give
up white sugar, white flour and white rice. Of course all red meat,
alochol, and fruit (except bananas) are off limits. So, basically,
you eat organic (if possible), locally grown vegies, whole grains
some fish and a little chicken. After 21 days, you gradually introduce
a food, like milk and wait 2 days before trying something else. I just
recorded how I reacted to each new item. Just as I suspected, I did
not feel well after eating wheat and dairy products (except yogurt).
I would actually get bloated and sometimes even a skin rash.

So, what I am left with is basically the Warrior diet! I thought that
was quite interesting. If you are still on the fence about what diet
to follow, BTD or GTD, try a (liver) detox and then gradually introduce foods, especially those recommended on BTD or GTD.

Now, I forgot, what is the deal with honey. Are warriors allowed
honey? Hope so. I know I should look it up, but do not have the
book with me.

Anybody have a good recipe for a tofu-walnut loaf?

:D Suzanna
Posted by: Lola, Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 6:59am; Reply: 109
Warriors)  really need low glycemic foods,  honey is very high glycemic.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 12:26pm; Reply: 110
Yes Warriors are allowed honey.... occasionally, after following the plan for 3-6 months and are in good health
Posted by: Carol the Dabbler, Wednesday, February 27, 2008, 4:17pm; Reply: 111

Quoted from Ribbit
These are more chronic than what you're talking about.


If the culprit is something you eat (or are otherwise exposed to) every day or so, the results will be chronic.  That's why it took me so long to figure out that I'm allergic to cow's milk -- I felt dopey all the time!

Posted by: northstar, Thursday, February 28, 2008, 4:07am; Reply: 112
Quoted from 815
Yes Warriors are allowed honey.... occasionally, after following the plan for 3-6 months and are in good health


Well, good to know I can have some honey, but I suspect I should stay of anything with alot of sugar. But, but.... :'(
Posted by: Ribbit, Sunday, March 2, 2008, 1:25am; Reply: 113
Quoted from Carol the Dabbler



If the culprit is something you eat (or are otherwise exposed to) every day or so, the results will be chronic.  That's why it took me so long to figure out that I'm allergic to cow's milk -- I felt dopey all the time!



I forgot to mention that when I run a fever things get better.  I don't know if it's burning something off (Candida?) or if it's just that when I'm sick I don't eat the problem food.....
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Sunday, March 2, 2008, 1:36am; Reply: 114
Quoted from northstar


Well, good to know I can have some honey, but I suspect I should stay of anything with alot of sugar. But, but.... :'(


You know the story, sugar in any form isn't good for people. I'm not talking about allowed fresh fruits. I mean processed sugar. Even honey can feed candida...so we have to keep that balance...If I can ever find it. Still working on it.  :(
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Sunday, March 2, 2008, 5:15am; Reply: 115
Quoted from Ribbit


I forgot to mention that when I run a fever things get better.  I don't know if it's burning something off (Candida?) or if it's just that when I'm sick I don't eat the problem food.....


Ribbit, I can't remember if you said you took Deflect or not. I was reading in the archives yesterday where Dr. D. highly recommended it for nursing mothers.
http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/ask/archives/00000022.htm
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, March 3, 2008, 8:10pm; Reply: 116
I've been taking it for about a year.
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 5:35am; Reply: 117
Quoted from Lola
protein combos to consider
Legumes + seeds
Legumes + nuts
Legumes + dairy
Grains + legumes
Grains + dairy


Yes, these work for me too. I love ground flax in yogurt. When I have beans, I eat yogurt sweetened with maple syrup for dessert. I really like walnuts on certain beans. The grains go great with soy milk. Yogurt mixed in tuna goes down all right too - sometimes I put hemp seed granola on it.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 4:21pm; Reply: 118
Looking at the list for Warriors, I'm thinking all cuts of beef are neutral except the ones listed as an avoid. That also means veal, calves liver. Too bad I don't like it...ok. I really like pot roast and a good filet mignon..maybe rib eye..once in awhile..

But, red meat makes me gain weight.(even more since I'm older) Any other Warriors have this problem?
Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 8:13pm; Reply: 119
Quoted from 815
Looking at the list for Warriors, I'm thinking all cuts of beef are neutral except the ones listed as an avoid. That also means veal, calves liver. Too bad I don't like it...ok. I really like pot roast and a good filet mignon..maybe rib eye..once in awhile..

But, red meat makes me gain weight.(even more since I'm older) Any other Warriors have this problem?


I'm looking at page 254 in the Genotype Diet book where it lists the red meats for Warriors.
I could be wrong, but under the foods called toxins which are best to avoid, the first item
mentioned is beef...then bone (assuming this is beef bones), then soups (with beef) and
finally broth (assuming this means beef broth),

I'm wondering if you've interpreted this incorrectly or have I?  

It appears to me that no beef is considered neutral and in fact, we are to consider all beef
and beef products to be toxins.

Lola, your comments please.

Posted by: Andrea AWsec, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 8:44pm; Reply: 120
Quoted from 815
Looking at the list for Warriors, I'm thinking all cuts of beef are neutral except the ones listed as an avoid. That also means veal, calves liver. Too bad I don't like it...ok. I really like pot roast and a good filet mignon..maybe rib eye..once in awhile..

But, red meat makes me gain weight.(even more since I'm older) Any other Warriors have this problem?


  Beef is an avoid for Warriors, no matter how it is cut.

Posted by: Chloe, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 8:47pm; Reply: 121
Quoted from Andrea AWsec


  Beef is an avoid for Warriors, no matter how it is cut.



That was my impression too.  No beef for Warriors at all!

Posted by: 815 (Guest), Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:22pm; Reply: 122
I'm not reading it like that, I'm reading it like specific...like the beef bone and beef broths and soups.  Dr. D. said he eats a steak once a week. So, I wonder.. ??)  Not that I really care, like I said I really don't like red meat.  Could be my bad.  ;D  Ah but, he didn't list "veal"

Also if you look at the way the other meats are listed, if it was any and all beef, he would have just written "beef" and left it at that. Why bother writing beef heart, beef liver? "Beef" covers everything about the cow. I'll just ask him when I see him.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 9:47pm; Reply: 123
Quoted Text
Dr. D. said he eats a steak once a week.

when did he say that? ;)

beef is a neutral for us gatherers while beef heart and liver and sweetbreads are specified and are toxins.
Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 11:15pm; Reply: 124
Chloe,
I believe your perception is right! :)

during BT days, I was under the impression that beef bone soup had no lectin, and that As for example could have it......
but here in the warrior list it s clearly stated, that it s an avoid!

Quoted Text
You can use beef bones for your stock. There's no lectin (or 'galectin') in beef, so making broth with them is perfectly fine. A tip: roasting them before putting them in the water will make a tastier soup. ;-)

http://www.dadamo.com/bloggers/otd/archives/00000418.htm

Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Tuesday, March 4, 2008, 11:34pm; Reply: 125
I thought it was more like maybe once a year Dr. D. enjoys a dish his wife makes for her O-type?! I won't touch anything to do with a cow except cultured yogurt and the cultured cheeses that are recommended (if I could find any) with a ten foot pole!! I already know the stuff is the same as poison to me.
Posted by: Ribbit, Friday, March 7, 2008, 2:12pm; Reply: 126
Hm.  If there were parts of the cow that a Warrior could have, I'd sure like to know about it.  Please do ask when you go.  It would benefit a lot of mixed-type families to be able to have it occasionally.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Friday, March 7, 2008, 8:48pm; Reply: 127
It was another thread I asked what Dr. D ate or if he ate off plan. I thought he said he ate steak once a week..I could be mistaken. Maybe it was once month or a year! LOL

I will ask him. I'm writing down questions to ask him.

How many Warriors can't eat grains?  I seem to react to grains,(I was tested alllergic to grass) and beans...  :(
Posted by: ruthie, Friday, March 7, 2008, 9:06pm; Reply: 128
Mayflowers...I am able to eat any grain and any bean...but I don't.
I stick with the diamonds.  Both of my late husbands used to say that I had an iron stomach.
namaste
ruthie
Posted by: Chloe, Friday, March 7, 2008, 9:57pm; Reply: 129
Ruthie, are you only eating diamond foods?  What does your daily intake of food look like?



Posted by: 815 (Guest), Saturday, March 8, 2008, 2:33pm; Reply: 130
How do you ladies feel about the mercury in all this fish we are supposed to be eating?
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Saturday, March 8, 2008, 3:22pm; Reply: 131
We can eat some fish that is much less of a problem than others. But when you consider the fact that Dr. D. warns against frozen fish - and I would guess canned has the same problem from what he says, it really gets to be a real quandary in a grocery trying to come up with something that is even remotely all right. I suspect that all the fish there has already been frozen even though they have thawed fish that appears to be fresh displayed. I don't think I am going to be able to eat this way long term because I'm afraid to regularly eat canned and frozen fish, besides the fact that with the mercury problem the selection is so narrow. We can't fly somewhere and buy fresh fish to eat on a regular basis, and we certainly can't get it out of thin air.

I can understand companies wanting to flash freeze fish on the ships. One of the last times I ever bought supposedly fresh fish in a local grocery was when I brought it home and large, black worms started crawling out of it when it began to cook. The horror was absolutely unreal.

Another thing, it is almost impossible to find anything that is actually processed in this country. I don't plan to eat anymore from China. I was really sick after I ate some cod packaged there.

I hate to be so negative about this because I LOVE fish and would be delighted to eat it often. But I can't find any options that will work long term. I wonder if Dr. D. realizes what a bind it puts us in when he warns about frozen and canned fish. I know he expects us "to do the work" but what are our options?

My guess is, after thinking about this for two months, that my best course is to continue eating frozen and canned fish and take whatever supplements I have to take to counteract any ill affects from it. --The same way I'm having to do with even cultured dairy products and these ever, ever, everlasting beans and hope for the best.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Saturday, March 8, 2008, 6:25pm; Reply: 132
It doesn't matter if the fish is canned or frozen, mercury is mercury is mercury. I've been having problems the last year or 2 trying to get FRESH, fresh fish. It's been rancid more than once and I had to throw it out. I also read that frozen fish is fresher because as you said, it's flash frozen on the ship and doesn't lay around getting spoiled. When you go to the grocer, you have to wonder how long has it been laying there?  Is someone on the Genotype website that can ask him about that? I'll add that to my questions for when I see him next month.

Black worms?  Ewwwwww!  :P

I'm still not 100% well yet. I had turkey sausage and eggs this morning and I feel woozy. This virus is hanging on. Seems like a 14 dayer. I used to get colds like that before elderberry. Now I don't ever get a cold. And my coworkers at the job were trying to bust me about the elderberry saying.."Oh, why didn't the elderberry work?"  You have to understand I work in a Medical School, next to a hospital..I work in MD land. Anything natural I suggest, is promptly shot down. By the way, did I mention that I almost got fired for talking about the Blood Type Diet back in 2003 when it came out?  Yep. Nice bunch of people, huh?   Big Pharma. Big FDA.

And some people might not like Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw so much but they have been fighting the FDA from controlling supplements and vitamins for many years.
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Sunday, March 9, 2008, 1:14am; Reply: 133
Diana, I use canned salmon and tuna because they seem to be the lesser of evils.  Of course, I eat supposedly "fresh" salmon too, but it is handy to have this canned salmon and tuna on hand.

It is too bad that you are on the front lines with diet in that atmosphere at work. My brother was a pharmacist/drug store owner and there was no way you could convince him that those chemicals were not just all right. He had more health problems than all the rest of the family members put together. I don't know what I would do without supplements. The Pharma bunch wants to get them nailed down and if they ever do, then supplements will be all the rage with them as they laugh all the way to the bank!
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, March 10, 2008, 12:24am; Reply: 134
Not to change the subject (don't get me started on drug companies).....but back to the Warrior diet.

There had been some question of whether or not I was a real Warrior or maybe a Teacher, or maybe just a plain ole A Nonnie.  I think, after stepping back and evaluating my current life, that I'm a sleep-deprived Warrior, and no diet, how much I follow or tweak it, is going to help the sleep situation.  Only time will do that.  So to put everybody's mind at ease (as if you were worried about me), I've decided to stick with the Warrior diet for a few more months, see if I can get my children to actually sleep longer than an hour at a time, and maybe things will improve.  I may, at some point, experiment with the Teacher diet, or even go back to the A Nonnie diet, but I believe that the reason for the diet "failing" is not the diet's fault.  The problem is that I'm severely sleep deprived and my body's falling apart because of it.  Hurray for Warriors! I'll keep plodding along. Let's go eat some beets!
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Monday, March 10, 2008, 3:34am; Reply: 135
Ribbit, I have been worried about you and was happy to see you posting more again. I have thought all the time that there was no way that you could be anything but completely exhausted. I've been there with that getting no sleep, and it is a wonder people survive as well as they do!  :-/  Hope you enjoyed your beets! (smile) I finished off some salmon and a big salad. I am not eating any more beans for a few days and see what happens. My stomach is not feeling good after eating them for two days.
Posted by: 815 (Guest), Monday, March 10, 2008, 1:59pm; Reply: 136
My second didn't sleep through the night till he was 4 months old. I thought I would never sleep again..LOL
Posted by: Ribbit, Monday, March 10, 2008, 7:21pm; Reply: 137
Four months?  (I know, it seems like forever).  My two year old still doesn't sleep through the night.  He wakes up at least once, calling for me.  The baby (9 months) wakes up every 1 to 2 hours, and only takes 1 or 2 cat-naps (like 30 min. if I'm lucky) during the day.  And that's without caffeine in my system. It's been weeks since I've had one complete sleep cycle.

But that's not what I wanted to talk about in this post.  This is what I wanted to say.  I went today to try on dresses because I don't have any that fit me that I can nurse in.  A friend's wedding is in a couple of weeks and I hate to wear a skirt and a ratty, stretched-out shirt.  Anyway, I picked out the 10-12 sizes because that's what has been fitting me from my own closet, and lo and behold, they were all too big!  Even though I haven't lost pounds, and hadn't noticed my own clothes seeming baggier, everything I tried on was too big!  So!  As much as I thought the GTD was  :-/, now I think ;D 8).
Posted by: Chloe, Monday, March 10, 2008, 8:50pm; Reply: 138
Quoted from Ribbit
Four months?  (I know, it seems like forever).  My two year old still doesn't sleep through the night.  He wakes up at least once, calling for me.  The baby (9 months) wakes up every 1 to 2 hours, and only takes 1 or 2 cat-naps (like 30 min. if I'm lucky) during the day.  And that's without caffeine in my system. It's been weeks since I've had one complete sleep cycle.

But that's not what I wanted to talk about in this post.  This is what I wanted to say.  I went today to try on dresses because I don't have any that fit me that I can nurse in.  A friend's wedding is in a couple of weeks and I hate to wear a skirt and a ratty, stretched-out shirt.  Anyway, I picked out the 10-12 sizes because that's what has been fitting me from my own closet, and lo and behold, they were all too big!  Even though I haven't lost pounds, and hadn't noticed my own clothes seeming baggier, everything I tried on was too big!  So!  As much as I thought the GTD was  :-/, now I think ;D 8).


YAY for you Ribbit.....This is what I'm experiencing....inches lost but not pounds on the scale. I started adding CLA which is one of the formulas for Warriors. It's supposed to help burn fat.
I'll keep you guys posted on that.

Posted by: Lola, Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 12:55am; Reply: 139
(clap) ;D
Posted by: 2330 (Guest), Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 1:05am; Reply: 140
Wonderful, Ribbit!!! This is great news!! What an upper of a shopping trip. (smile) (clap)
Posted by: Ribbit, Tuesday, March 11, 2008, 2:23am; Reply: 141
Still didn't get a dress.  ??)
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